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National Super Tuesday poll shows dramatic Democratic shift
CNN ^ | February 04, 2008 | Paul Steinhauser

Posted on 02/04/2008 5:34:11 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

Democratic Sen. Hillary Clinton is losing ground to Sen. Barack Obama in a national CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released on the eve of critical Super Tuesday presidential primaries and caucuses.

The two are virtually tied in Monday's survey, which shows the New York senator has lost a comfortable national lead she's held for months over Obama and other rivals.

The survey also shows Arizona Sen. John McCain as the clear Republican front-runner.

Obama, who trounced Clinton in January's South Carolina primary, garnered 49 percent of registered Democrats in Monday's poll, while Clinton trailed by just three points, a gap well within the survey's 4.5 percentage point margin of error.

"Coming out of his overwhelming victory in South Carolina and followed quickly by his Kennedy family endorsements, Obama clearly has the momentum in this campaign," said Bill Schneider, CNN's senior political analyst.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anybodybuthillary; beotch; choke; hillary; hillbilly; kumbayaexpress; obama; obambi; supertuesday; twopretenders

1 posted on 02/04/2008 5:34:12 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“National Super Tuesday poll shows dramatic Democratic shift”

RAT poll credibility = 0


2 posted on 02/04/2008 5:37:08 AM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: Hacklehead

No they are saying the shift is From Clinton to Obama... there is no doubt this is happening because they are increasingly aware that Obama can beat McCain... In fact Obama is the most dangerous man in America right now...

He will sing his siren song about divisiveness without ever taking the personal responsibility of being the Divider and How dare you question him ... If you do you are labled part of the problem


3 posted on 02/04/2008 5:39:37 AM PST by tomnbeverly (If Islamic Jihad is an existential threat then the candidate that should be POTUS is a no brainer.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Hillary! can only lose voters from here on out. Try to picture in your mind a voter who was undecided or previously for another candidate who decides to support Hillary! at this late date. You just can't do it.

Maybe is she were still inevitable, she would pick up the brain-dead "I wanna vote for a winner" vote. But now those idiots are all looking to be a part of the Barack Obama History Making Moment. Without that group, Hillary! has absolutely zero potential for growth.

4 posted on 02/04/2008 5:39:47 AM PST by gridlock (Proud Romney Supporter since January 20, 2008)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Watch for Hillary to go on TV and have a crying fit as she acts the victim of this, that and the other thing.
5 posted on 02/04/2008 5:43:04 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Huckabee: Romney didnít hit conservative political puberty until he was 60.)
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To: tomnbeverly

“No they are saying the shift is From Clinton to Obama...”

Yes, and he had a 10 point lead over Hellary in NH. Therefore, see post #1.


6 posted on 02/04/2008 5:43:29 AM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
In the battle for the GOP nomination, McCain has the backing of 44 percent of registered Republicans, while former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney received 29 percent, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee got 18 percent and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas won 6 percent.

CNN's "poll of polls" of the Republican race puts McCain at 45 percent compared with 24 percent for Romney.

Romney is in for a butt kicking tomorrow.

7 posted on 02/04/2008 5:43:41 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The economy remains the top issue on the minds of Americans, according to the new poll. Two-thirds of those questioned say that the economy is in a recession. That's up five points from January and 20 points from October.

Then it's official. Two-thirds of Americans are complete morons. The economy still has a positive rate of growth. That means it is, by definition, not in recession.

I feel embarrassed to live in a country where a pollster would even bother to ask the question or that people would bother to answer it, let along answering the question wrong.

8 posted on 02/04/2008 5:44:15 AM PST by gridlock (Proud Romney Supporter since January 20, 2008)
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To: gridlock

Maybe we are transitioning to a situation where people consider the economy to be in “recession” if there is an insufficiently large rate of growth. Kind of like how a 5% increase in Medicare funding can be called a “cut” because it is less than the 7% increase proposed.


9 posted on 02/04/2008 5:46:22 AM PST by gridlock (Proud Romney Supporter since January 20, 2008)
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To: gridlock
Then it's official. Two-thirds of Americans are complete morons. The economy still has a positive rate of growth. That means it is, by definition, not in recession.

Actually we could be in the start of a recession, but won't know for 6 months. Right now there are mixed signals.

10 posted on 02/04/2008 5:48:03 AM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I am rooting for Hillary to win. And I almost don’t care who wins on the GOP side. They all are severely flawed but still are better than any Democrat.


11 posted on 02/04/2008 5:50:28 AM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: gridlock

evita indeed.


12 posted on 02/04/2008 5:50:34 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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To: Always Right

Where are all those shills from 1991 who blathered on endlessly that it was not an “official” recession until you had two consecutive quarters of negative growth in the GDP?


13 posted on 02/04/2008 5:51:22 AM PST by gridlock (Proud Romney Supporter since January 20, 2008)
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To: gridlock

Sorry, I meant from 1999


14 posted on 02/04/2008 5:51:47 AM PST by gridlock (Proud Romney Supporter since January 20, 2008)
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To: Always Right

Honesty, at this point. If McCain wins, I will vote for the democratic candidate so that the disaster that would ensue under a McCain candidacy wont be charged to the Republicans (who are finished anyway so why do I care?). The same outcome will happen no matter who wins now, the democrats or McCain are the same, and I cannot even look at McCain. Unless Romney wins tomorrow, I’m voting for the democrat, in the end, it’s the wisest thing I can do.


15 posted on 02/04/2008 5:52:12 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Well if it means anything, there has been an explosion of Obama yard signs in Massachusetts over the past few days and on the way to work this morning, there were people holding Obama signs at intersections too. Looks like the Obama ground campaign is in full force here.

Strangely, I see very few Romney signs, then again, most Republicans have been driven underground in this state. Last time I had a Republican sign in my yard, it lasted two days before somebody ripped it out. So much for tolerance and free speech.

16 posted on 02/04/2008 5:52:38 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 5 days away from outliving Nicolette Larson (Mitt is It))
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To: gridlock
You're spot on. The "recession" question shows that most Americans are brain-dead. It is like a British poll reported this weekend, in which a quarter of all respondents thought "Winston Churchill" was a "fictitious" character. More than half, however, thought that Sherlock Holmes was a real person. LOL.

Congressman Billybob

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A Freeper in Congress? Please act now.

17 posted on 02/04/2008 5:53:06 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Graybeard58
Romney is in for a butt kicking tomorrow.

Just like the NY Giants butts were kicked yesterday. Watch CA. The counteroffensive begins tomorrow.

18 posted on 02/04/2008 5:55:45 AM PST by kabar
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To: G.Mason

Dont Cry To Me ‘Bout Subpoenas...


19 posted on 02/04/2008 5:56:39 AM PST by gridlock (Proud Romney Supporter since January 20, 2008)
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To: Scythian

I am kind of numb to the whole process. But I still don’t want a Democrat to win even though I hate most of the populist rhetoric coming from the GOP. I don’t trust any of them, but they will still be better than Clinton/Obama. It is sad that small government conservatives have no where to go, but Hillary/Obama ain’t the answer no matter how tempting it is.


20 posted on 02/04/2008 5:58:28 AM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

21 posted on 02/04/2008 5:58:49 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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To: Hacklehead

LOL thats right... a tear here or there could make all the difference... However, I much rather run against Hillary then Obama..

Somebody better tell Obama that all his lofty Rhetoric about division in D.C. and how he can bring the country together is pure B.S. stop trying to turn politics into a civil rights issue... You know... I am the victim and “I have a Dream that one day all the Republicans and the Democrats will come together and...

1. Blame George W. Bush the evil man for everything bad.

2. Allow women to choose abortion over life even when they go into labor.. .hell even after the babies born (Whats the difference anyway)

3. Allow all the sick and enfeebled to become well through science like Cloning and Embryonic Stem Cells...

4. Make Health care manadatory for all by taxing their wages or garnishing them at work... In fact lets take all personal responsiblity away from Americans and lets let the Government start granting the American Dream...

.... And if you disagree with these positions because we intend to feed and help the poor and inpoverished then you are the problem... You are the intolerant ... You are the divisive.. You are the non-Patriot... You are UnAmerican...

Believe me this hypnosis is selling well the the Young, Dumb, Uninformed, Uneducated idiots that make up a large portion of the electorate.


22 posted on 02/04/2008 5:59:43 AM PST by tomnbeverly (If Islamic Jihad is an existential threat then the candidate that should be POTUS is a no brainer.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Why isn't Hillary going public with Obama’s involvement with his black separatist church who supports Farrakhan. It would destroy him.
23 posted on 02/04/2008 6:00:48 AM PST by Vision ("If God so clothes the grass of the field...will He not much more clothe you...?" -Matthew 6:30)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

She might even blacken her own eyes and file for a divorce eventually going down that final stretch.


24 posted on 02/04/2008 6:00:50 AM PST by listenhillary ("Oh, they'll rally behind me" Sneered John McCain)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I'm ready to be flamed. I called the Giants before the game started last night, and the same upset is in the air for candidates. It will be Romney vs. Obama.
25 posted on 02/04/2008 6:03:35 AM PST by MomwithHope (I have never had a tagline....oops...)
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To: Scythian

If McCain’sthe GOP nominee, I’m doing the same.


26 posted on 02/04/2008 6:03:35 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

This is great! The clintons have already played the race card. They’ll soon give their black-ops crowd the okay to use the “H” word - Hussein.


27 posted on 02/04/2008 6:08:03 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: gridlock; Always Right
I believe that in less than five years the definition of a recession will once again be changed. By many indicators we have been in one since early October. I think it was masked by Christmas and the way the numbers are calculated. The bedrock change in the import/export model has also masked the real problems. There is real pain already in some regions.
28 posted on 02/04/2008 6:13:46 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: Graybeard58

Shame on me, but I haven’t been to a caucus in 12 years. Tomorrow I will be there and vote for Romney. I’m energized by this “shove McCain down our throats” by the GOP.

It may be too little, too late, but I’m shocked into action by McCain’s rise to candidacy.


29 posted on 02/04/2008 6:15:04 AM PST by mplsconservative
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To: tomnbeverly

“However, I much rather run against Hillary then Obama.”

That is a fatal error. The road is littered with people who thought it would be easy to run against the KKKlintons. As much as I hate the KKKlintons, they have a rare mastery of political campaigning and a near supernatural ability to withstand damage. Hell, The Stain was IMPEACHED and he is still looked on with awe and admiration by millions. If Hellary wins the nomination, look for Stain-man to be out everyday bashing republicans and driving the RATS to a frenzy. The media will help as always. In contrast, Obama will be a joy to run against.


30 posted on 02/04/2008 6:42:33 AM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: MomwithHope
I was asked a few days ago if I would rather have the Patriots win (I'm a big Patriots fan) the Super Bowl or have Mitt Romney win on Super Tuesday.

Without hesitation, I chose Romney. The future of our country is much more important than a mere football game.

So I'm hoping that Romney completes the bargain for me tomorrow night.

31 posted on 02/04/2008 6:51:04 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 5 days away from outliving Nicolette Larson (Mitt is It))
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To: gridlock

This economic ignorance is INTENTIONAL.

The left has to keep the public misinformed and ignorant on basic economics,

otherwise, no one would EVER support them.


32 posted on 02/04/2008 6:54:17 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Hacklehead

I find it fascinating that everyone is focused on how McCain is not *loved* by a majority of Republican voters.

When is the media going to report on how much Hilary is not *loved* by decent Democrats - and yes there are a few - *hereditary* Dems. They need to be shown that the Democratic Party is not their fathers’ party.


33 posted on 02/04/2008 6:58:30 AM PST by sodpoodle
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To: sodpoodle

“When is the media going to report on how much Hilary is not *loved* by decent Democrats - and yes there are a few - *hereditary* Dems. They need to be shown that the Democratic Party is not their fathers’ party.”

Good point. The problem is that the conservative Democrat is as dead as the dodo, thats why you don’t hear about them. The MSM does report that the reason many RAT voters dont like hellary is that she is not liberal enough, especially on the war.


34 posted on 02/04/2008 7:08:10 AM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: tomnbeverly

Obama can beat McCain.

Obama can cover lacking economic specifics under the hype about his skin color, and he doesn’t have the Clinton ‘hate’ factor working against him.


35 posted on 02/04/2008 7:12:00 AM PST by Son House (Protection For Opportunity Seekers And Tax Payers From Congress Spending: Low Tax Rates !!!)
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To: Hacklehead

I don’t know I see the Hillary as a polarizing figure in the electorate.. IOW moderates are turned off by her idiot positions like recently she said she would support “Garnishing wages to force employees to pay health insurance”... That gets a resounding boo from 80 percent of America and makes her look retarted.

OTOH... Obama’s Rhetoic is lofty and meaningless.. “Ask not what your country... and all that horse hockey... So when he is screwing us he is using alot of KY...

The hypnotic part that people are falling for including some REPUBLICANS... (according to him anyway) is simply this ... Use the theme of Civil Rights movement and make it about the underprivleged, underclassed, poor, victim.. LIBERALS and the Overreaching, Tyranical REPUBLICANS George W. Bush...

The Problem is that the country is at war and rhetoric like Obama’s is made for less dangerous times.... We cannot be led down this path that if we are not aligned with Obama we are called, divisive, intolerant, hateful...

We lose in a landslide if it comes to this...


36 posted on 02/04/2008 7:14:56 AM PST by tomnbeverly (If Islamic Jihad is an existential threat then the candidate that should be POTUS is a no brainer.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I am all for better data. But we should be comparing apples to apples. Unfortunately, the agenda of the reporter often comes into play when interpreting economic issues, particularly when reporting regional results.

Eventually, they will just decide that we are in a Recession if there is a Republican in the White House (see R and R! How convenient), and it will be Happy Days Are Here Again when the Democrats are in charge.

37 posted on 02/04/2008 7:25:10 AM PST by gridlock (Proud Romney Supporter since January 20, 2008)
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To: kabar

The counteroffensive begins tomorrow.

I’ll be supporting Romney Super Tuesday, no going to sit by and let McDole and his elite supporters hand the election over.


38 posted on 02/04/2008 7:40:26 AM PST by Son House (Protection For Opportunity Seekers And Tax Payers From Congress Spending: Low Tax Rates !!!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I'm thinking that CNN now favors Obama/

As Hillary continues to sink, more and more 'rats' will abandon ship....and with these goofy liberals, it can happen at the drop of a hat hint.

Once the liberal trait of 'monkey see monkey do' kicks in, Hillary becomes yesterday's news.

39 posted on 02/04/2008 8:36:26 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Vision

“Why isn’t Hillary going public with Obama’s involvement with his black separatist church who supports Farrakhan. It would destroy him.”

She has to time-release what she’s got.


40 posted on 02/04/2008 9:38:55 AM PST by Disturbin (Liberals: buying votes with your money)
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To: Disturbin

Super Tuesday is tomorrow. What is she waiting for?


41 posted on 02/04/2008 3:26:16 PM PST by Vision ("If God so clothes the grass of the field...will He not much more clothe you...?" -Matthew 6:30)
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