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Jennings Rides Again: Kristol Warns Conservatives Against 'Temper Tantrum'
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 02/04/2008 11:18:12 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

The voters had a temper tantrum last week . . . Parenting and governing don't have to be dirty words: the nation can't be run by an angry two-year-old. -- Peter Jennings, November 14, 2004, commenting on the Republican landslide.

[C]onservatives . . . can choose to stand aside from history while having a temper tantrum. But they should consider that the American people might then choose not to invite them back into a position of responsibility for quite a while to come. -- William Kristol, February 4, 2008, on conservative aversion to McCain.

It's one thing to be bawled out by the late Peter Jennings. But do conservatives have to have their knuckles rapped by one of their own, Bill Kristol? Apparently yes, as per the Weekly Standard editor's New York Times column of today, Dyspepsia on the Right.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billkristol; gopcoup; johnmccain; mittromney; peterjennings
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1 posted on 02/04/2008 11:18:14 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Sell out


2 posted on 02/04/2008 11:19:21 AM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Shades of Peter Jennings ping to Today show list.


3 posted on 02/04/2008 11:19:47 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

All the FNC guys have gone way left, I don’t listen to them any more.


4 posted on 02/04/2008 11:20:34 AM PST by libbylu (Mitten I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR MCCAIN OR HUCK..THEY CALLED ME RACIST/BIGOT)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Drinking too much of the NYT cool-aide.


5 posted on 02/04/2008 11:21:02 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
John McCain does not represent my values.

I cannot vote for him.
6 posted on 02/04/2008 11:21:21 AM PST by elizabetty (John McCain Hates Michael Reagan...........John McCain Hates Me, too. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Sellout RINO!!!!!


7 posted on 02/04/2008 11:21:40 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Hey Krisol, KMA...


8 posted on 02/04/2008 11:21:45 AM PST by DoughtyOne (McCain: RNC will adore him. Get ready for McCain day in photos & Prayer threads. Oh the humanities!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"It's one thing to be bawled out by the late Peter Jennings. But do conservatives have to have their knuckles rapped by one of their own, Bill Kristol?"

Nope, and that's exactly why I fired the "Weekly Standard" right after getting a couple of issues.

They don't write for conservatives, only the "inside the beltway" crowd or RINOs.

9 posted on 02/04/2008 11:22:06 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: libbylu

I stopped app two years ago. I could sense the change even then.


10 posted on 02/04/2008 11:22:09 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Kristol is a liberal RINO.


11 posted on 02/04/2008 11:22:14 AM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I’ll pass. I want responsibility for the coming debacle to be very clear.


12 posted on 02/04/2008 11:22:17 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

When it comes to the Reagan Revolution, I was there leading the way... well, I was a foot soldier.

I think we should make those tax cuts "WE" gave you permanent.

We need to find a compassionate way to give illegals who are here a pathway to citizenship.

I have pushed through legislation that makes exercise of the First Amendment more reasoned with regard to elections.

I joined with the gang of fourteen to do something better than what the president had in mind, with regard to judicial appointments.

Enough was enough.  It was time to put the issue of MIAs to rest, recognize North Vietnam and facilitate trade.

I didn't think helping the Sandanistas was a good thing.  I fought it tooth and nail but by gosh, a nation was freed over my objections.

I was a member of the Keeting Five.  It was no big deal.  A lot of money was passed around and people lost their life savings.  It happens.

Have the actions of this man, earned your vote?

13 posted on 02/04/2008 11:22:58 AM PST by DoughtyOne (McCain: RNC will adore him. Get ready for McCain day in photos & Prayer threads. Oh the humanities!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Don’t blame Mr. Kristol he’s just making money. True conservatism is actually in a minority not only in the country but within the GOP. W and Reagen won by reaching out to nonconservative elements and getting them to go along for the ride. Don’t be mad that we aren’t calling the shots this time around... sit and think... then read... then be mad that we haven’t really called the shots EVER. Contract with America? “Read my lips”? Medicare expansion? People here joke about blacks being stuck with the democratic party maybe we should look in the mirror.


14 posted on 02/04/2008 11:23:07 AM PST by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Why are all these guys so worried we may not fall into their line and so what they say?


15 posted on 02/04/2008 11:23:21 AM PST by Hattie
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

They need to save their self-righteous faux-indignant rhetoric for the perpetually offended and outraged left.


16 posted on 02/04/2008 11:23:26 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: Eyes Unclouded

That’s exactly what I’ve said. We can’t laugh at blacks for being on the ‘rat plantation then turn around and do the exact same thing.


17 posted on 02/04/2008 11:24:50 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: mrsmel

It has taken me a little longer. FNC has become MSM.


18 posted on 02/04/2008 11:25:22 AM PST by libbylu (Mitten I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR MCCAIN OR HUCK..THEY CALLED ME RACIST/BIGOT)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

P.S. Peter Jennings said that in 1994, not 2004.


19 posted on 02/04/2008 11:25:52 AM PST by nhoward14 (Disenfranchised by the MSM and by liberals/independents voting in Republican primaries.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Kristol is only a conservative if you consider George Pataki a conservative. I’m sick of being chirped at by Parakeet males (as Ann Coulter calls them). These people have no passion. They just drift along with the breeze and try to get along by caving in to leftists.


20 posted on 02/04/2008 11:25:52 AM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Now what former Half-a** VP was kistol the gofer for? Little man little magpe. Not intending to insult magpies.
21 posted on 02/04/2008 11:26:35 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Kristol and Buchanan I consider similar in that they seem to hit the nail on the head at times, then completely go off on some tangent other times that makes little sense.

Kristol has apparently swallowed the Moderate Koolaid along with the ice cubes. Perhaps he’s choking. Poor guy.


22 posted on 02/04/2008 11:26:46 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It’s actually a telling statement. He refers to conservatives in the third person.

It’s tacit acknowledgement of what we’ve been saying all along - the Party isn’t conservative any more.

The irony of the remark is that he’s admonishing conservatives for not participating in a process they’ve been disenfranchised from.

It’s like having your house stolen, and then being scolded by thieves when you decide not to come to a banquet they are throwing there.

The guy’s lost a couple of steps.


23 posted on 02/04/2008 11:26:57 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: neodad

Didn’t take long for Kristol to kiss up to Sulzberger.


24 posted on 02/04/2008 11:28:45 AM PST by y6162
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To: JaneNC

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1964832/posts?page=5#5
Ill say they are not covering the HIlary News.


25 posted on 02/04/2008 11:28:47 AM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Kristol just wants to be invited to the cool Washington brie-and-vin parties, principles be damned.


26 posted on 02/04/2008 11:29:00 AM PST by MuttTheHoople
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

and yet another talking head mouthpiece is heard from. My question has to be what credentials does this bozo have that makes his opinion and more sound or reasoned than mine? Answer? NONE. I don my home work and if this country is going to flush itself down the crapper I would rather have a democrap leading the way.


27 posted on 02/04/2008 11:29:29 AM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Aside from Krauthammer, I’ve lost all respect for the Fox “All Stars,” including Kristol.

If I was at a bar and Fred Barnes sat next to me, I’d kick his ass off the stool. Everytime he brings up McCain and amnesty, he mumbles under his breath, “a position that I agree with.” Everytime.


28 posted on 02/04/2008 11:29:34 AM PST by toddlintown (Building More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: nhoward14

Whoops! Good catch, thanks!


29 posted on 02/04/2008 11:29:40 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I’m not voting for McCain. I will vote for Romney. I believe he is an honorable man who will govern as he says he will.

I already know how McCain would govern.


30 posted on 02/04/2008 11:30:41 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: nhoward14

Wait, I did write 1994. Where are you seeing 2004?


31 posted on 02/04/2008 11:30:56 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The problem with many Conservatives is that they have adopted a purity of values attitude that none can compete with and pandering to them just simply sounds stupid.

You know when I list my top Conservative traits...

Bringing the Illegal Mexican immigrants to their just deportation and building a wall around the U.S. just wasnt on that list never has been and wasn’t when I became a Reagan Conservative.. So if you want to claim Libertarian then maybe you would be happy voting for that true 100 percent no complaining Libertarian Ron Paul .. .
At least I could respect that.
Anyway these are what I want in a Leader and they are in priority order. So I will flex my vote appropriately..

1. Strong on National Defense (Fight the GWOT) Stay on Offense against the Terrorist that killed 3000 Americans on 911 so more Americans don’t die.
2. Strong on Family Values (Protect the sanctity of Life and Marriage (Always not just when it is political expediant)
3. Keep my taxes low
4. Keep government spending low only approve funds for required projects no earmarks or excess spending keep budget deficits in check.
5. No nanny states, Hold people accountable for their actions don’t take my tax dollars to bail others out of bad decisions.

Many here have truly lost focus... Some are lemming being led by Rush and Sean right of that cliff of inevitability called Hillary or Obama.


32 posted on 02/04/2008 11:31:52 AM PST by tomnbeverly (If Islamic Jihad is an existential threat then the candidate that should be POTUS is a no brainer.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Republicans will lose without conservatives’ votes. There’s no doubt about that. In fact, if only 20% of all conservative Republicans decide to not vote, it would cause a landslide victory for the Dims. Might be a landslide if only 10% decided not to vote, depending on the breakout of the States those 10% come from.

Kristol and the RNC are playing with real fire. They think past performance is a reliable predictor of future profits, but this year they are wrong. The anger out here is palpable and it’s not lessening. If half the voters who are today saying they won’t vote actually follow through with the threat, it will be a walk off for the Dims.


33 posted on 02/04/2008 11:32:09 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

In post #1 at the very top of this very page.


34 posted on 02/04/2008 11:33:44 AM PST by nhoward14 (Disenfranchised by the MSM and by liberals/independents voting in Republican primaries.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

“Don’t be mad that we aren’t calling the shots this time around... sit and think... then read... then be mad that we haven’t really called the shots EVER”

Not calling the shots this time around is one thing, but it seems as if conservatives are no longer wanted in the GOP.
Should McCain get the nomination and manage to win in Nov. where do conservatives go from there. The GOP leadership will rightfully claim that they can win without the conservatives, and the what?


35 posted on 02/04/2008 11:33:50 AM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: Bahbah
Very ironic since Kristol supports the King of the Temper Tantrums.
36 posted on 02/04/2008 11:34:39 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: savedbygrace

if McCain becomes the Republican candidate, Her Thighness couldn’t have gotten a more defeatable opponent if she’d picked him herself...


37 posted on 02/04/2008 11:35:12 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Boy is Lindsey Graham going to mad. Someone else is courtin his lover.
38 posted on 02/04/2008 11:35:26 AM PST by McGruff (McCain: "We don't want them to lay in the weeds until we leave." It means a timetable)
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To: nhoward14

Hmm, that’s weird. You’re right of course, but in the original over at NewsBusters I had it 1994!


39 posted on 02/04/2008 11:35:43 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Would you ask wee willy Kristol what the New York newspapers are holding back on his guy McCain until after he gets the nod. I am tired of this twit peeing on conservatives.
40 posted on 02/04/2008 11:36:44 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: mrsmel

“if McCain becomes the Republican candidate, Her Thighness couldn’t have gotten a more defeatable opponent if she’d picked him herself...”

That may be right, but what if Obama wins for the Dems.
I don’t think Obama can beat McCain in the general.


41 posted on 02/04/2008 11:36:47 AM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Kristol wants to be “in.” Get invited to parties and dinners and discuss what is going on “out there.” He does not have a clue as do most of the people inside the beltway.

Our elected politicians tell us that they are representing us, but in truth, they are representing government to us. They don’t care and if John McCain is the POTUS they will kiss his ring and hang out with him to be in.

I was watching a show on Showtime about Henry VIII. It is interesting to see the people around him struggle for influence and power. One opportunistic Lord said, “If you do not get to be in the presence of the king it is like being without sunshine.” The more things change the more things stay the same.

42 posted on 02/04/2008 11:37:33 AM PST by lone star annie (Two more days to save the Republic from Invasion)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
I agree with you. To have any voice at all conservatives are going to have to have a coalition of moderate and even some liberal voters who have a inkling towards 2nd amendment rights and pro-life issues. I returned last night from a super bowl party here in Texas, unfortunately most of the folks there were middle to left of center. Most were retired military and true patriots, but coming from working class backgrounds were highly anti cooperate. Nobody liked Obama, some luke warm on Hillary and most including myself were not happy with the Republican choices. McCain was begrudgingly the consensus candidate. One person was clearly anti Mormon so that person would not vote Romney under any circumstances. I will vote for the Republican Candidate, as I keep stating the supreme court and Iraq are my two most important issues. On both either republican candidate better represent my values and political wants than any democratic candidate.
43 posted on 02/04/2008 11:39:07 AM PST by America-The-Great-1967 (Don't fix the blame, fix the problem.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Kristol and his kind are in a panic. Conservatives still have the power to tank McCain - particularly if he becomes the Republican candidate.

McCain will win the nomination only by creating an alliance between moderate and liberal Republicans, independents and conservative Democrats. He can win the nomination without Republican conservatives.

But he will lose many conservative democrats, independents and some liberal Republicans to the Democrats in November when the Democrat nominee moves to the center.

McCain is already "in the center". He can't gain anything by moving left - or right!. If he moves left he loses moderate Republicans....if he moves right he loses the independents and moderate Democrats that gave him his nomination.

McCain has boxed himself in!!

44 posted on 02/04/2008 11:40:32 AM PST by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: snarkybob

I don’t think that Obama will win the ‘rat primary. The Clinton machine is not going to let that happen. As to whether McCain can defeat Obama—Obama may excite high ‘rat turn-out, but McCain will certainly suppress conservative turn-out—we may be a minority of Republican voters, but that minority may well be the margin of defeat if we don’t turn out to vote, or vote third party or write-in.


45 posted on 02/04/2008 11:41:03 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: toddlintown

Rush slapping Fred as we speak. RUSH: Fred, you used to be one of us...


46 posted on 02/04/2008 11:41:36 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: America-The-Great-1967

“Most were retired military and true patriots, but coming from working class backgrounds were highly anti cooperate. “

Being from Southeast Texas, I know a lot of people like that, they tend to be very conservative Democrats. I don’t think they would vote for Obama or Hillary, so they’re voting for McCain.


47 posted on 02/04/2008 11:43:05 AM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I need a `GTH’ button on my keyboard. A Fred Barnes article was telling conservatives to `Grow up’ the other day.


48 posted on 02/04/2008 11:43:48 AM PST by tumblindice
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To: MuttTheHoople
Principles are an outmoded ideal in today's political world, don't you know, we are supposed to vote to keep the "R" in the White House, never mind what he'll do when he gets there. /s

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." --Thomas Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson, 1789.
49 posted on 02/04/2008 11:46:18 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: Miss Didi
Rush slapping Fred as we speak. RUSH: Fred, you used to be one of us...

Fred's been sitting next to Mort for too long. Brit needs to move him over next to Charles Krauthammer.

50 posted on 02/04/2008 11:47:08 AM PST by Inspectorette
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