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How Conservatives Are Destroying the Future of the GOP (Barf Alert)
BC Politics ^ | February 02, 2008 | Written by SJ Reidhead

Posted on 02/04/2008 12:35:40 PM PST by NoGrayZone

Okay folks. The reason I had to post this "article" is because it explains, what I think, is exactly what we are fighting and why the Republican party is what it is today. I think people like this SJ, sorry, correction, SHEEPLE like this SJ have bought our party down.

"A true Republican is going to hold their nose and Vote the Elephant. They may be the way we are right now, a noisy, fighting family, but in the end you Vote the Elephant. Someone who is an ideologue responds like an Ann Coulter, a Rush Limbaugh, or a Kevin Dobson and holds out for abject purity."

That's right. Apparently, we're supposed to hold our nose for ANYONE the GOP throws our way. No no, your voice means nothing anymore. You just take what they give and shut up, got it?

"While these people don't share the same views as the ‘Ron Paul Bots’ they have much the same mind-set. They are the easily led and willing to believe wholeheartedly and without question. "..... Ummmm, didn't you just tell us to hold our nose and vote for whomever they throw our way? hmmmmmmmm

Please take a few minutes and read this thing. I had to read it twice because I COULD NOT BELIEVE MY EYES!!! Perhaps it's time to start thinking about a "3rd party"....the Conservative Party.

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/02/02/233926.php

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I had absolutely no idea Conservatism was a big scam. Glad some idiot pointed me to the error of my ways!
1 posted on 02/04/2008 12:35:43 PM PST by NoGrayZone
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To: NoGrayZone

John McCain as the GOP nominee will cost Republicans 70 seats in the House, and 12 in the Senate.

McCain only appeals to people who hate Republicans.
That is who he will bring out, while many conservatives stay home.
Liberals will be out in record numbers to vote.

Liberals will vote for Democrats.
Moderates will vote for John McCain and... Democrats.
Conservatives will stay home.

Liberals + anti-GOP moderates - conservatives = MASSIVE GOP LOSSES IN CONGRESS

McCain is going to turn the Democrat Wave into the Democrat Tsunami in November.


2 posted on 02/04/2008 12:36:30 PM PST by counterpunch (McCain/Kennedy '08)
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To: NoGrayZone

Now THIS kind of stuff PISSES ME OFF!!


3 posted on 02/04/2008 12:37:25 PM PST by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: NoGrayZone

BS Politics, should be the title.


4 posted on 02/04/2008 12:37:45 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: NoGrayZone
The left is trying desperately to nail the coffin shut on conservatism.
5 posted on 02/04/2008 12:37:54 PM PST by DakotaRed (Keep following the media as they sell out America)
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To: TommyDale

Amen!


6 posted on 02/04/2008 12:38:07 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Was Thompson/Hunter 08....now it's....Just Shoot Me)
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To: NoGrayZone

I am a Conservative without a party.


7 posted on 02/04/2008 12:38:32 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: NoGrayZone
How dare those ee-vile conservatives demand that candidates adhere to the core planks of the Republican platform! How dare they challenge liberal sell-outs! The NERVE! The SHEER UNMITIGATED AUDACITY! Who do these plebians think they are??

(/sarcasm)

8 posted on 02/04/2008 12:38:40 PM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: NoGrayZone

Damned uppity conservatives don’t know our place. LOL


9 posted on 02/04/2008 12:39:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: counterpunch

It is a pivital time in our countrys history. I know, there have been many, but when have we ever come to close to losing our freedom to become a socialist nation? Something’s brewing and it ain’t gonna be pretty.


10 posted on 02/04/2008 12:39:48 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Was Thompson/Hunter 08....now it's....Just Shoot Me)
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To: NoGrayZone

“Kevin” Dobson?


11 posted on 02/04/2008 12:39:50 PM PST by Politicalmom (Don't blame me. I'm writing FRed in.)
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To: NoGrayZone

If the Republican Party is going to stand for nothing, we are all better off if it is destroyed. Right now it is just taking up the space where a real conservative party could exist, if given the opportunity.


12 posted on 02/04/2008 12:39:50 PM PST by gridlock (Proud Romney Supporter since January 20, 2008)
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To: NoGrayZone
A true Republican is going to hold their nose and Vote the Elephant.

I am, by this definition, not a true Republican. I will not vote for John McCain.

It is time to start a new party, or fortify one of the other alternatives.

13 posted on 02/04/2008 12:40:01 PM PST by GingisK
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To: NoGrayZone

They aren’t satisfied with getting rid of the religious right. Now they want to drive a permanent wedge in the Republican Party. After the debacle of a McCain slaughter in November, we will need to start putting together a Conservative Party and keep the RINOs out.


14 posted on 02/04/2008 12:40:05 PM PST by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: NoGrayZone
I remember Kevin Dobson from the original 'Kojak':


15 posted on 02/04/2008 12:40:19 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: NoGrayZone
We didn't land on the RNC

The RNC Landed on us.

Apologies to the late Mr. X.

16 posted on 02/04/2008 12:40:29 PM PST by elizabetty (John McCain Hates Michael Reagan...........John McCain Hates Me, too. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: NoGrayZone
I am not a broken glass Republican, I will hold my nose no longer.

EARN my vote or lose my vote, it's the party's choice.

17 posted on 02/04/2008 12:40:41 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: TexasCajun
I am a Conservative without a party.

Now you know how Zell Miller feels.

18 posted on 02/04/2008 12:40:44 PM PST by gridlock (Proud Romney Supporter since January 20, 2008)
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To: TexasCajun

I, too, am a conservative without a party.


19 posted on 02/04/2008 12:40:46 PM PST by polymuser (Just darn)
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To: TexasCajun

As am I. Hey, does more than one make a party? =)


20 posted on 02/04/2008 12:41:06 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Was Thompson/Hunter 08....now it's....Just Shoot Me)
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To: NoGrayZone

The author is a fool.

It is the Limosine Liberals of the Country Club vs the Limosine Liberals of the Union Thugs.

This author seems like a poster boy for the illiteratti.


21 posted on 02/04/2008 12:41:16 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Digital Sniper

Yes, you are veeeery evil. You must be stopped at all costs!!!!


22 posted on 02/04/2008 12:41:58 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Was Thompson/Hunter 08....now it's....Just Shoot Me)
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To: Lancey Howard; Politicalmom; NoGrayZone

I don’t really know his politics. But he was at the Bush I inauguration. Wife and I saw him there (it was while he was on Knott’s Landing).


23 posted on 02/04/2008 12:42:25 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (**insert witty tagline here**)
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To: NoGrayZone
We each have to ask ourselves: Can we still look at ourselves in the mirror if we vote for whoever the candidate ends up being just to try to avoid having a Dem in the white house? The answer depends on what our individual priorities are.

I used to get upset with people who said they would rather vote third party or not at all than to vote for ________. But I've changed my position since Rudy and Ronnie were/are running. I would not have been able to bring myself to vote for either of them in the general election.

24 posted on 02/04/2008 12:43:59 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: NoGrayZone
Insane McManiac !!
25 posted on 02/04/2008 12:44:46 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: GingisK
I am, by this definition, not a true Republican. I will not vote for John McCain.>I am, by this definition, not a true Republican. I will not vote for John McCain.

I'm not either, though I've been a card-carrying, contributing Republican since 1980, because I cannot vote for neigher Romney, nor McCain, I'm no longer welcome it seems.

26 posted on 02/04/2008 12:44:49 PM PST by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: cripplecreek

You DO seem a tad uppity! I think you need to “hold your nose” and vote rino, ya know, to bring you back down to earf! Maybe you should “walk amongst the real people” to get a grip. Heck, you and Rush can do it together!


27 posted on 02/04/2008 12:44:56 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Was Thompson/Hunter 08....now it's....Just Shoot Me)
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To: NoGrayZone

I’ll vote for the elephant. But I won’t vote for the RINO.


28 posted on 02/04/2008 12:45:15 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: NoGrayZone
Yes, you are veeeery evil. You must be stopped at all costs!!!!

I'm starting to wonder if the only way we conservatives can appease the McCainiacs is by forming a procession through town, thumping ourselves on the head with thick planks of wood, a'la Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

29 posted on 02/04/2008 12:45:27 PM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: gridlock

I’ve been quite upset lately, however, you just gave me a bit of hope. Perhaps I’m looking at this the wrong way. “Right now it is just taking up the space where a real conservative party could exist, if given the opportunity.”......

Maybe this is our opportunity?


30 posted on 02/04/2008 12:47:36 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Was Thompson/Hunter 08....now it's....Just Shoot Me)
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To: NoGrayZone
*snarl!* *harumph!* *grumble!* HOLD YOUR NOSE AND VOTE FOR ME, YOU SMELLY OL' CONSERVATIVE!!


31 posted on 02/04/2008 12:48:19 PM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: NoGrayZone

*SIGH* You’re right, I belong back on the plantation where the RINOpublicans can protect me from myself. LOL


32 posted on 02/04/2008 12:48:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I did a search on the author, but forgot to copy the link to the site I noticed she is quite the Moderate. A McPainiac for sure. Just type in her name to search, you’ll find it.

I wasted too much time looking her up and trying to find out who she is. Gotta run now, be back later.


33 posted on 02/04/2008 12:49:11 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: TommyDale

Hmmm, I think we’re all onto something but we just don’t know it yet. See post 30.


34 posted on 02/04/2008 12:49:16 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Was Thompson/Hunter 08....now it's....Just Shoot Me)
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To: Digital Sniper

35 posted on 02/04/2008 12:49:49 PM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: Just another Joe

I think they’ve pretty much decided to throw “the baby out with the bathwater”.


36 posted on 02/04/2008 12:50:17 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Was Thompson/Hunter 08....now it's....Just Shoot Me)
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To: NoGrayZone

We really should do something about these lockstep republicans on Free Republic.

It had become obvious to me when there was so much support for tootyfruityrudy on this website, which drove JimRob to finally open up the BugZapper thread. Now that Fred has dropped out, maybe JimRob will implement this suggestion I put forward on a couple of threads:

When all the smoke clears, if Hunter doesn’t get the nomination, I have one more suggestion for all of us remaining conservative freepers. It would make sense for us to have an idealogy score, a set of questions with rankings of how important the issue is and how strongly a freeper agrees/disagrees with it. We could all put these results on our home pages, so that when another freeper is debating with us (or us with them) we could just go to their home page, check their score on that issue & others, and realize “Ohhh, this is a Ron Paul supporter” or “ohh, this guy is a small l libertarian” or “ohh, this guy is a Big F FISCAL Conservative and a small l social liberal.”

It’s okay for FR to be inundated with RINOs or have a bunch of liberals posting here, as long as they’re up front about it.


37 posted on 02/04/2008 12:51:07 PM PST by Kevmo (SURFRINAGWIASS : Shut Up RINOs. Free Republic is not a GOP Website. It’s a SOCON Site.)
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To: TexasCajun

I also am a conservative without a party!


38 posted on 02/04/2008 12:51:29 PM PST by appleton14
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To: NoGrayZone
"A true Republican is going to hold their nose and Vote the Elephant."

I'm not holding my nose to vote for any candidate for any office ever again.
39 posted on 02/04/2008 12:51:51 PM PST by mysterio
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To: NoGrayZone

Putting it bluntly - the guy who wrote this article is a pointed 180 degrees in the wrong direction.

Why the Conservative Movement has stalled in the past 6 years is because we’ve ascribed to exactly this kind of Rove / Morris political balkanization by group identification. The Rove political machine abandoned persuasion and adopted pandering.

They bought cache’s of votes with Senior Prescriptions, Steel Tariffs, corn subsidies, etc. etc.

Ronald Reagan expoused the principles of the sovereign individual and lifted an entire nation. The message appeals to thinking people of ALL constituencies. Until we once again adopt, persuasion in lieu of sub group pandering - Conservatives, and Americans will continue the slow but steady slide into social tyranny.


40 posted on 02/04/2008 12:52:34 PM PST by crescen7 (game on)
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To: NoGrayZone

When and who rewrote the Republican Platform?


41 posted on 02/04/2008 12:52:41 PM PST by Hattie
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To: MEGoody

I think that’s why most of us are so upset now a days. I can only vote my conscience which is exactly what I’m going to do. If I need to stand alone, so be it.


42 posted on 02/04/2008 12:52:45 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Was Thompson/Hunter 08....now it's....Just Shoot Me)
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To: cripplecreek

“Damned uppity conservatives don’t know our place. LOL”

My x husband once told me that I didn’t know my “place”.

The people who keep telling us this might wind up like him, and it wasn’t pretty. :<)


43 posted on 02/04/2008 12:52:57 PM PST by AuntB (" DON'T LET THE PRESS PICK YOUR CANDIDATE!" Mrs. Duncan Hunter 1/5/08)
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To: NoGrayZone

Better yet, see posts 13 and 14, only 4 seconds apart!!


44 posted on 02/04/2008 12:53:03 PM PST by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: TexasCajun

Aaaaahhhhhh!!!!


45 posted on 02/04/2008 12:53:22 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Was Thompson/Hunter 08....now it's....Just Shoot Me)
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To: cripplecreek
Damned uppity conservatives don’t know our place.

That's right. At this rate, Conservatives will soon have to drink from separate water fountains at the RNC. You know: separate, but equal.

46 posted on 02/04/2008 12:53:24 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: NoGrayZone
"A true Republican is going to hold their nose and Vote the Elephant. They may be the way we are right now, a noisy, fighting family, but in the end you Vote the Elephant

I'm done with the GOP. There is no point in having a "progressive" party and a "not quite as progressive, but still moving left" party.
47 posted on 02/04/2008 12:53:40 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: GingisK

“I will not vote for John McCain.”

Same here. Just had a very liberal friend of mine tell me he is considering voting for mccain...that says it all.


48 posted on 02/04/2008 12:54:05 PM PST by gate2wire (Even when you know, you never know.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Oooooooo, that’s good! You should make that your tagline!!!


49 posted on 02/04/2008 12:54:52 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Was Thompson/Hunter 08....now it's....Just Shoot Me)
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To: Digital Sniper

Oh my gosh, lmao!!!


50 posted on 02/04/2008 12:55:59 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Was Thompson/Hunter 08....now it's....Just Shoot Me)
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