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Polar bear habitat at center of Alaska drilling debate
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | February 5, 2008 edition | Brad Knickerbocker | Staff writer

Posted on 02/04/2008 2:01:37 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach


On thin ice: Environmentalists say polar bears like these in northern Alaska will be in danger if the US allows sales of new drilling leases in the Chukchi Sea, set to begin Wednesday.
steve amstrup/ap/u.s. fish and wildlife service/file

One lawsuit aims to halt Wednesday's lease sales in the Chukchi Sea. Another would contest any listing of the polar bear as 'threatened.'

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The political fight over offshore oil and gas drilling in Alaska intensifies this week.

Native Alaskans and environmentalists have filed a suit to prevent the federal government's sale of drilling leases in Alaska's Chukchi Sea. The sales, set to begin Wednesday, will allow drilling in about 30 million acres, including critical polar bear habitat, environmentalists say. A decision on whether to list polar bears as "threatened" under the Endangered Species Act (ESA) is expected this week as well.

The potential designation has left the Pacific Legal Foundation, a conservative public-interest law firm, poised to challenge "any arbitrary, unjustified ESA listing" of the iconic Arctic bear, setting up a likely court battle. Property-rights advocates and business groups have been weighing in as well.

Researchers differing over the impact of climate change also affects the debate. Hundreds of prominent scientists are urging Congress to pass legislation that would curb global warming in order to protect wildlife, including polar bears. But other experts say the data used to bolster the argument for ESA listing – in particular computer modeling showing declines in polar bear populations because of climate change and other factors – are based on "questionable assumptions."

All of this is uncharted territory for government-ordered species protection, which typically is based on numbers dwindling toward extinction.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: arctic; artic; energy; oil; polarbears
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U.S. close to decision on polar bears
Los Angeles Times ^ | February 3, 2008 | Kenneth R. Weiss, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

Posted on 02/03/2008 12:41:10 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

1 posted on 02/04/2008 2:01:39 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Are they part of “Polar Bears for Obama?”


2 posted on 02/04/2008 2:02:31 PM PST by sono (You fight campaigns with the politicians you have.)
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To: sono

Are Polar bear steaks good? Regular brown bears have yummy steaks...


3 posted on 02/04/2008 2:04:08 PM PST by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: JoanneSD

I have to agree: those Polar bears look yummy!


4 posted on 02/04/2008 2:05:54 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: sono; snugs

Do you ever cook these for Sunday dinner? If so, could you post some photos?


5 posted on 02/04/2008 2:06:58 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Anybody uses the word ‘habitat’ is either a wildlife biologist or an anti-petro-industry greenie.


6 posted on 02/04/2008 2:08:35 PM PST by RightWhale (oil--the world currency)
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To: JoanneSD

Just don’t eat their liver, it may kill you. Too much vitamin A in it.


7 posted on 02/04/2008 2:09:40 PM PST by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Hundreds of prominent scientists are urging Congress to pass legislation that would curb global warming in order to protect wildlife, including polar bears.

While they're at it, they should pass legislation that would curb world hunger, and legislation to curb the spread of AIDS, and legislation to curb the proliferation of embecilic reality tv shows.

8 posted on 02/04/2008 2:10:28 PM PST by VRWCmember (Romney 2008 - The most palatable RINO left in the race)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

For the sake of the environment, for the sake of the ozone layer, for the sake of low-lying islands all over the world, we should always choose Opec oil. Non-opec oil will melt the ice caps and flood Manhatten. Opec oil is good for wildlife and good for the planet.

Show that you care. Always choose Opec oil.


9 posted on 02/04/2008 2:11:47 PM PST by marron
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
These stories of "declining bear populations" are outright lies

Polar bears ‘thriving as the Arctic warms up’

Pictures of a polar bear floating precariously on a tiny iceberg have become the defining image of global warming but may be misleading, according to a new study.

Polar bear experts said that numbers had increased due to the efforts of conservationists

A survey of the animals’ numbers in Canada’s eastern Arctic has revealed that they are thriving, not declining, because of mankind’s interference in the environment.

“There aren’t just a few more bears.
There are a hell of a lot more bears,” said Mitch Taylor, a polar bear biologist who has spent 20 years studying the animals.

His findings back the claims of Inuit hunters who have long claimed that they were seeing more bears.

In the Davis Strait area, a 140,000-square kilometre region, the polar bear population has grown from 850 in the mid-1980s to 2,100 today...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/09/wpolar09.xml

10 posted on 02/04/2008 2:13:16 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I had black bear for lunch today. It was yummy.


11 posted on 02/04/2008 2:16:30 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: JoanneSD
Gonna' be some fishy meat fur shur.

Now, how to protect the polar bears outside of screwing with their environment ~ we could slaughter a cow a day and airdrop the meat in front of them.

Bet they'd like that!

12 posted on 02/04/2008 2:17:45 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I didn’t think polar bears lived in the tundra (no food source).


13 posted on 02/04/2008 2:18:04 PM PST by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: tobyhill

They (the missing Polar Bears )are up on the top of the world,...


14 posted on 02/04/2008 2:18:09 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: JoanneSD
Are Polar bear steaks good? Regular brown bears have yummy steaks...

A joke, but also serious. If we don't eat them, then why "save "them? Even if we accept the liberal lie that they are endangered and/or will be harmed by the drilling...so what? Aren't our vital energy and national security interests more important than whether this one species survives? The Sabertooth Tiger is no more. Did Earth survive?

15 posted on 02/04/2008 2:19:59 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813; JoanneSD
Oh my gosh ,...I can't believe that you are talking about eating these cuddly bears....you know that stuffed bears are a favorite gift for the young children on valentines day...

More on the Cuddly bears at the link to the LA Times article in post #1....

16 posted on 02/04/2008 2:24:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: JoanneSD
Concerning feeding those bears, if we dropped 100 pounds of prime beef per day for each bear in an area with 2000 bears, and we made every attempt we could to precisely target the bears, it'd cost about $385 million per year.

This is the cost to be arrayed against sucking all the oil out of Northern Alaska so that we don't endanger the bears while we are doing that.

Looks to be a bargain and boy will it make my cousins in the airtaxi business in Alaska rich beyond the dreams of avarice.

17 posted on 02/04/2008 2:25:11 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I wonder how they made it all the way up there from the Amazon?


18 posted on 02/04/2008 2:25:28 PM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Drill a hole, get the oil. This obsessing about the environment is ridiculous.


19 posted on 02/04/2008 2:25:41 PM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: xcamel; NormsRevenge; blam; SunkenCiv; Fred Nerks

fyi


20 posted on 02/04/2008 2:28:10 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: tobyhill

Maybe they rode the whale taxis to the north....LOL!


21 posted on 02/04/2008 2:29:25 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why is it all right to drive people out of their “habitat” to build a new plaza, but not to move the polar bears to provide needed oil to the people?


22 posted on 02/04/2008 2:38:18 PM PST by kitkat
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To: bill1952

I recall watching a PBS program a couple years ago where they were documenting some Canadian town that was becoming overrun by polar bears. The bears were thriving and preferred the town dump to the “pristine” (looked rather barren to me) wilderness. Maybe we could drill up there if we were sure to dump a bunch of yummy garbage about?


23 posted on 02/04/2008 2:38:26 PM PST by philled ("Pacifism ... can only be preached behind the protective cover of the Royal Navy."-- Orwell)
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To: popdonnelly

“Drill a hole, get the oil. This obsessing about the environment is ridiculous.”

But the Bears, the Bears. Oh the suffering and agony!


24 posted on 02/04/2008 2:40:05 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: marron
Always choose Opec oil.

I am afraid you are proving their point. How many polar bears are left in the Middle East? ;-)

25 posted on 02/04/2008 2:48:37 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Where are the pics of bears walking on top of the pipline?? Too cruel to publish? Yeah sure


26 posted on 02/04/2008 3:05:57 PM PST by Waco
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why are the environmentalists so protective of barren wastelands where no one in their right mind will ever vacation or build a home?????


27 posted on 02/04/2008 3:25:53 PM PST by Martins kid
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

>>How many polar bears are left in the Middle East? ;-)<<

You owe me a keyboard. It is not a Diet Coke spew puddle. Dang....


28 posted on 02/04/2008 3:29:39 PM PST by netmilsmom (Financing James Marsden's kid's college fund, 1 ticket, 1 DVD at a time.)
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To: Waco
Still looking...
29 posted on 02/04/2008 3:36:18 PM PST by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: JoanneSD

30 posted on 02/04/2008 3:38:09 PM PST by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Califreak

31 posted on 02/04/2008 3:38:57 PM PST by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The conservationist crazies have hijacked the Gop as well as the demoncratic party. You mean to tell me that we do not have the technology to protect the wild as well as drill for oil and become less independent on foreign oil? This is like the Al gore global warming scam! This is what is killing America, regulation and special interest groups who tie business and capitolism in knots. They have suceeded in nuetering American business’s ability to maintain economic superiority


32 posted on 02/04/2008 3:43:48 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Id rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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To: RasterMaster

33 posted on 02/04/2008 3:57:22 PM PST by sono (You fight campaigns with the politicians you have.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Uh, here’s a thought. Bears migrate.


34 posted on 02/04/2008 3:59:39 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: Beowulf; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion

Beam me to Planet Gore !

35 posted on 02/04/2008 4:00:30 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: RasterMaster

I love that sign!!


36 posted on 02/04/2008 4:04:58 PM PST by bfree (liberalism is the enemy of freedom!!!)
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To: RasterMaster

lol


37 posted on 02/04/2008 4:06:13 PM PST by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: sono

38 posted on 02/04/2008 4:33:48 PM PST by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Califreak


39 posted on 02/04/2008 4:48:13 PM PST by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: RasterMaster

Love the bbq! I gotta get photoshop.


40 posted on 02/04/2008 4:51:51 PM PST by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: Jeff Chandler
Never seen bear steaks of any kind have been tempted by Ostrich steaks though maybe one day I pluck up courage to buy and eat one.
41 posted on 02/04/2008 5:18:07 PM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: RasterMaster

That is a keeper!!!!!!!


42 posted on 02/04/2008 5:20:41 PM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: RasterMaster

As they stare at the submarine, I can just hear the one in the rear thinking, “Now that is one giant seal. Nobody will ever believe me at the ice floe club.”


43 posted on 02/04/2008 5:21:09 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: jimtorr

Great job on the photo’s Love that ever see a polar bear in the Middle east. :-)


44 posted on 02/04/2008 5:48:35 PM PST by Bruce 22-250 (Vote stop the WITCH!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Piss on the greenies.


45 posted on 02/04/2008 5:52:48 PM PST by DesScorp
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Screw the environmentalists.


46 posted on 02/04/2008 5:55:26 PM PST by sauropod (I'd rather be waterboarded than vote for John McCain)
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To: RasterMaster

How in the world did those bears find a penguin? Someone took a wrong turn.


47 posted on 02/04/2008 5:59:30 PM PST by kaboom
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Perhaps in the 21st century with satellite communications, supermarkets and power generators, the folks who live up north could stop killing 'endangered' polar bears?


48 posted on 02/04/2008 6:38:35 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They got oil at Chuckee Cheese?

Who’d a thunk it!


49 posted on 02/04/2008 6:41:59 PM PST by djf (...and dying in your bed, many years from now, did you donate to FR?)
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To: Fred Nerks
The LA Times article in Sunday’s paper claims the population is decreasing....due of course to Global Warming.
50 posted on 02/04/2008 7:55:21 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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