Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Muslim husbands with more than one wife to get extra benefits as ministers recognise polygamy {UK}
Daily Mail ^ | 4th February 2008 | JAMES SLACK

Posted on 02/04/2008 5:27:35 PM PST by 3AngelaD

LONDON -- Husbands living in a "harem" with multiple wives have been cleared to claim state benefits for all their different partners. A Muslim man with four spouses - which is permitted under Islamic law - could receive £10,000 a year in income support alone. He could also be entitled to more generous housing and council tax benefit, to reflect the fact his household needs a bigger property. Ministers have decided that, even though bigamy is a crime in Britain, polygamous marriages can be recognised formally by the state - provided they took place overseas, in countries where they are legal. The outcome will chiefly benefit Muslim men with more than one wife....

New guidelines on income support from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) state: "Where there is a valid polygamous marriage the claimant and one spouse will be paid the couple rate (£92.80)....Income support for all of the wives may be paid directly into the husband's bank account, if the family so choose.

Chris Grayling, the shadow work and pensions secretary, said that the decision was "completely unjustifiable". He added: "You are not allowed to have multiple marriages in the UK, so to have a situation where the benefits system is treating people in different ways is totally unacceptable and will serve to undermine confidence in the system. This sets a precedent that will lead to more demands for the culture of other countries to be reflected in UK law and the benefits system."

Mr Grayling also accused the Government of trying to keep the ruling quiet because the topic is so controversial.

Corin Taylor, research director for the Taxpayers' Alliance, said: "British taxpayers are paying a record amount of tax so the Government has a duty to make sure that every penny is spent properly. Polygamy is not something which British law allows and therefore British taxpayers should not have to pay for extra benefits for second or third wives.... Ministers launched a review of the benefit rules for polygamous marriages in November 2006, after it emerged that some families had benefited financially. The review concluded in December last year with agreement that the extra benefits should continue to be paid. But the decision was not publicly announced...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; muslimwomen; polygamy; uk; ukmuslims; welfare
Not only did the British government do this, but they tried to hide what was done.
1 posted on 02/04/2008 5:27:37 PM PST by 3AngelaD
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD

What, I wonder, is a “valid polygamous marriage” under British law?


2 posted on 02/04/2008 5:28:49 PM PST by Billthedrill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD
Sick. Just ****ing sick.
3 posted on 02/04/2008 5:29:56 PM PST by kinoxi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD

And I continue to get e-mails from “friends” in the UK telling me how awful we Americans are.

Clueless idiots.


4 posted on 02/04/2008 5:30:13 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD

Sheesh, Look at what England has done!

Idiots——they want to kill you, wake up!


5 posted on 02/04/2008 5:30:34 PM PST by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD

They marry using Shia law so why would the marriages be recognized ???

And what happened to their bigamy laws ???

Are they limited to the usual 4 wives ???


6 posted on 02/04/2008 5:32:06 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Billthedrill

According to the article, “...even though bigamy is a crime in Britain, polygamous marriages can be recognised formally by the state - provided they took place overseas, in countries where they are legal.”


7 posted on 02/04/2008 5:32:58 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD
...is totally unacceptable and will serve to undermine confidence in the system...

Yeah this is what is gonna finally do it./s We can hear the sheople baaaaing all the way across the pond. Socialism rots from the inside out. Goodbye UK, it was nice knowing ya.
8 posted on 02/04/2008 5:33:04 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD

Can beheadings and the removal of limbs for thievery be far behind?


9 posted on 02/04/2008 5:33:47 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop the globaloney!!! De-globalize yourself !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ButThreeLeftsDo

>>And I continue to get e-mails from “friends” in the UK telling me how awful we Americans are.<<

I don’t blame them. After all, all the Muslims want to do is kill them. We, on the other hand, are fat and uncultured.


10 posted on 02/04/2008 5:35:19 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Chandler

Who you callin’ fat????


11 posted on 02/04/2008 5:37:38 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD
Please tell me why a man, who obviously needs to be on the dole in England because he has no job, can afford to have more than one wife. Oh, I know, because the British government pays for him to do so. Obviously these men marry several women, move to GB so they can get more money coming in the house. And more children mean more $$$ too.

If they want to adhere to their nation's custom of polygamy they should stay there. But, no, they have decided to let some other country support them all. The British are being duped again. I wonder how many of those men and women are plotting terrorists supported by the government!

12 posted on 02/04/2008 5:38:29 PM PST by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Americans in general. We have the fattest poor people in the world!


13 posted on 02/04/2008 5:38:47 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: CitizenM

Please tell me why the government is allowing people to immigrate to the UK and go on welfare? And bring multiple wives.


14 posted on 02/04/2008 5:40:12 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: CitizenM
I wonder how many of those men and women are plotting terrorists supported by the government!

A valid question that should be asked.
15 posted on 02/04/2008 5:42:28 PM PST by kinoxi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD

Summary of British Muslim Policies:

1. Open Box
2. Remove revolver
3. Load revolver
4. Place barrell of revolver to right temple
5. Pull back the hammer
5. Pull trigger


16 posted on 02/04/2008 5:42:52 PM PST by San Jacinto (John McCain believes in global warming and thinks "Hillary Clinton would be a good President.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD
even though bigamy is a crime in Britain, polygamous marriages can be recognised formally by the state...

Yes, and that's the question. How can something be simultaneously illegal and also recognized and even compensated? I'm obviously ignorant of British jurisprudence but this strikes me as a rather contradictory state of affairs. Perhaps polygamy and bigamy are differentiated, but I'm baffled as to how.

17 posted on 02/04/2008 5:44:37 PM PST by Billthedrill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD

F***ing dhimmis.


18 posted on 02/04/2008 6:01:11 PM PST by Greg F (Romney appointed homosexual activists as judges in Massachusetts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ButThreeLeftsDo

In a Daily Telegraph article, the paper asked for comments on what to do about rising violent crime and yob culture there-many respondents called for sharia law. Fools, they can longer even govern themselves. The nanny state there has destroyed that nation.


19 posted on 02/04/2008 6:03:58 PM PST by mrsmel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD
The outcome will chiefly benefit Muslim men with more than one wife....

Ergo, they'll have plenty of more time and resources to sit in mosque and plan how to carry out selected atrocities on British subjects.

What a system. Shoulda let the nazi's have em.

20 posted on 02/04/2008 6:07:16 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I'm a FredHead!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mrsmel

They got FReeped by the muzzies.......


21 posted on 02/04/2008 6:11:25 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: socialismisinsidious

Unfortunately, the voters in the United States want to bring socialism here. And will probably succeed in ‘08.


22 posted on 02/04/2008 6:14:16 PM PST by sport
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: kinoxi

>Sick. Just ****ing sick.

Yep. Abraham would be completely in arms over this...


23 posted on 02/04/2008 6:19:59 PM PST by tortdog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD
“Please tell me why the government is allowing people to immigrate to the UK and go on welfare? And bring multiple wives.”

Let me tell you... I had a possible job offer there last year. You should have seen the paperwork that I had to fill out. I even had to get a certified letter from the Universities where I received my BBA and my MBA stating that all of my courses were taught in ENGLISH!!!

Thats just the beginning. I had to prove I was not currently on welfare, hadn’t even thought about committing a crime, I had a job, that the job paid enough to support me, that I could afford to pay all of the VAT taxes on all of the items I was bringing in, like the TV tax on and on and on.

Eventually I said the salary they were going to pay me was not enough to justify the hassle let alone the double taxation of the US taxing my UK income. Just forget it.

Of course I was trying to do it legally... That may have been my problem.

24 posted on 02/04/2008 6:21:25 PM PST by Syntyr ( Freepers - In the top %5 of informed Americans!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD

This the most pathetic shit I’ve ever heard. Disgusting groveling to foreign born Islamics


25 posted on 02/04/2008 6:34:52 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD

Hard to belive this is the same Britain that fought back from a very poor position and beat the Nazis.


26 posted on 02/04/2008 6:38:29 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Billthedrill
Perhaps polygamy and bigamy are differentiated, but I'm baffled as to how.

Stroke of a pen, law of the land. Easy.

What they did was preserve the ban on conducting a wedding In the UK if you are already married, but they no longer define being married to more than one woman at the same as bigamy, only marrying (that is conducting the ceremony), a second, third or fourth wife in the UK.

27 posted on 02/04/2008 6:41:04 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: dennisw

Curiously though, I believe that under sharia law a muslim man is only allowed to have multiple wives if, and only if, he has the means to provide for them.

These guys are unable to provide for their wives if they are on the public dole.

This is “haram”. :-)


28 posted on 02/04/2008 6:46:39 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD
harem

Wait, harems are legal now?

29 posted on 02/04/2008 6:54:11 PM PST by Snickering Hound
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ramius
Curiously though, I believe that under sharia law a muslim man is only allowed to have multiple wives if, and only if, he has the means to provide for them.

These guys are unable to provide for their wives if they are on the public dole.

How true. Muzz men are only supposed to take on multiple wives when they can afford them.
With its generous dole Great Britain is making these illiterate 7th century beggars into princes with harems

30 posted on 02/04/2008 7:00:33 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD
Kinda flies in the face of the Hague Convention.

Article 11

A Contracting State may refuse to recognize the validity of a marriage only where, at the time of the marriage, under the law of that State -

(1) one of the spouses was already married; or ....

UK signed it. Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, Syria, Algeria, Libya and Iran have not. Why the hell is this western nation recognizing polygamous marriages from non-signatory states????

Have the Royals secretly converted to Islam or has everyone in England just lost their d*mned minds?

31 posted on 02/04/2008 7:10:24 PM PST by Centurion2000 (su - | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD

This is ridiculous. Britain is cooked if it continues on this dhimmi path.


32 posted on 02/04/2008 7:15:44 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tortdog

Am I to assume that you support polygamy as a state sponsored gateway for terrorists then?


33 posted on 02/04/2008 7:17:11 PM PST by kinoxi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD

England “assumes the position!”


34 posted on 02/04/2008 7:25:07 PM PST by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD

Last one out of Britain, turn out the lights.


35 posted on 02/04/2008 7:25:41 PM PST by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: VoiceOfBruck

pinging you from the “Just in case you still held onto any shred of hope for the UK” file.


36 posted on 02/04/2008 7:28:29 PM PST by Zechariah_8_13 (www.GOOOH.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: dennisw

I am pretty sure some witty muslim on cnn can point out the verse in the koran that says its ok to suck the man dry just before you cut off his head and rape his women.


37 posted on 02/04/2008 7:48:24 PM PST by enduserindy (Living in Indy just got better! Ah Colts! Hi Mom! Vote for America! (I had to do it!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: 3AngelaD

We should not allow the English to immigrate to the US. Whatever brain disease with which they are infected could spread. It is a danger greater than the illegal immigrants from Mexico.


38 posted on 02/04/2008 7:53:06 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (<I>)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Boagenes
I've seen quite a few UK families moving here in the past few years, and Europeans scouting out bug-out locations vacation homes. This is East Canada.
39 posted on 02/04/2008 10:54:46 PM PST by coydog (Keep Canada green - paint a Liberal!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: CitizenM
Please tell me why a man, who obviously needs to be on the dole in England because he has no job, can afford to have more than one wife

The same reason why illegal alien women here with minimum wage jobs can afford to have lots of babies. They know the government will support their babies with our tax money.

40 posted on 02/04/2008 11:30:17 PM PST by KittyKares (.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: kinoxi

Not sure why my comment would suggest that Abraham was a terrorist.


41 posted on 02/05/2008 2:20:23 AM PST by tortdog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Zechariah_8_13

tnx 4 ping.

truly depressing what’s happening across europe.


42 posted on 02/06/2008 6:48:54 PM PST by VoiceOfBruck (for a good time, call vobns.blogspot.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson