Posted on 02/05/2008 10:55:42 AM PST by Mad-Margaret
The killer of five women at a Lane Bryant store in Tinley Park made sexual advances on at least one of the victims before the slayings and may have targeted a women's shop to avoid confrontation with men, a source said Monday.
The gunman entered the store after 10 a.m. Saturday and chatted briefly with some of the victims before announcing a holdup, and may have initially feigned that he was making a delivery, sources said.
He then took the women to a back room and bound them with duct tape he had brought with him, a law-enforcement source said. He said that before the shooting began, the man made advances toward one or more of the women.
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And, he chose Chicago so as to avoid a confrontation with a legally armed citizen, IMHO.
Tinley Park is not Chicago, though Illinois doesn’t have CCW.
Here’s a prediction: when caught and identified, he’ll be a repeat violent offender on probation.
Understood, but the same thought applies.
So sad
Tinley Park isn’t Chicago. It’s a village with its own Mayor.
I have no problem with the death penalty.
Well, OK, Just one. It will take too long to snuff the scumbag.
Reminds me of the Richard Speck killings. I lived not far from where it happened.
Are malls now shooting galleries? Why not have metal detectors at mall entrances? Or (much as I hate it) someone to look in women’s purses and men’s pockets. I’m angry at the current practice, at certain stores, of only looking in women’s purses. Men’s pockets need to be looked in, too. A surprising number of men carry knives. How much could a metal detector, and a guard at each entrance, cost?
Yeah, I caught the irony, with my tagline.
Oh, my gosh! I was just thinking the same thing this morning. We are really dating ourselves.
My mother’s office was in Roseland, not far from Mr. Matuzek’s bar (I hope I spelled that correctly-he was the father of one of the slain nurses). There was no doubt in my mind that Mr. Matuzek would have killed Speck with his bare hands if he’d ever been released in Mr. Matuzek’s lifetime.
How ironic that the survivor here was also a nurse in training.
How about this... piss off, you ain’t looking in my pocket, and if I’m carrying a weapon, tough. Tough on the jackass that pulls his out to shoot innocent people.
I’m SICK of people thinking that metal detectors, or searching INNOCENT CITIZENS is the way to go.
(Oh and I know you were kidding!!!!!!!)
One of the many lovely folks (along with Manson, Unruh, and others) who benefitted by having SCOTUS throw out the death penalty in the early 70s.
When I first heard about this, I figured it would turn out to be an ex-husband or ex-boyfriend of one of the women, not a stranger.
His physique should make him stand out in a crowd.
” Men’s pockets need to be looked in, too. A surprising number of men carry knives.”
You want to make men not able to carry a knife?
This is trully heartbreaking...I (like you from the other thread) thought that this was somehow related to one of the woman who worked there. My gut instinct was that this was a jilted boyfriend/husband/babydaddy who went nuts. Sadly, alot of the young girls I have worked with have had alot of ‘drama’ in their lives. This scenario is all the scarier...the randomness of it...and the premeditiation (a woman’s clothing shop early in the day). This makes sense that the police did not confirm that there was a survior (protecting her). Any leads or other info in the Chicago news?
What were you doing in that neighborhood? I thought those apartments had been demolished.
The first home my mother owned was in Jeffrey Manor. It was a duplex. We moved to our first house (in Rosemoor) when I was 3. And we kept moving southwest.
The people who once lived in Jeffrey Manor are the parents and grandparents of those folks who now live in Tinley Park.
The cost would be enough to eat up the profits of any store in a strip mall, and it would be ineffective.
The cost to the stores of allowing concealed carry is a big fat zero, and that would be more effective than anything else.
And before you say there wouldn't be anyone with a gun there, I live in an Oregon county. Shall issue is the law of the state, and in our county I am proud to tell you that just under 17% of the total population has permits. Now, subtract out all of those under legal age and I bet 25-30% of the adult population has carry permits.
This kind of stuff just plain doesn't happen around here. Who wants to face those kind of odds?
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