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Symptoms: Metabolic Syndrome Is Tied to Diet Soda
NY Times ^ | February 5, 2008 | NICHOLAS BAKALAR

Posted on 02/06/2008 1:17:35 AM PST by neverdem

Researchers have found a correlation between drinking diet soda and metabolic syndrome — the collection of risk factors for cardiovascular disease and diabetes that include abdominal obesity, high cholesterol and blood glucose levels — and elevated blood pressure.

The scientists gathered dietary information on more than 9,500 men and women ages 45 to 64 and tracked their health for nine years.

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But the one-third who ate the most fried food increased their risk by 25 percent compared with the one-third who ate the least, and surprisingly, the risk of developing metabolic syndrome was 34 percent higher among those who drank one can of diet soda a day compared with those who drank none.

“This is interesting,” said Lyn M. Steffen, an associate professor of epidemiology at the University of Minnesota and a co-author of the paper, which was posted online in the journal Circulation on Jan. 22. “Why is it happening? Is it some kind of chemical in the diet soda, or something about the behavior of diet soda drinkers?”

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KEYWORDS: diabetes; dietsoda; health; metabolicsyndrome; syndromex
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BTW, a symptom is what a patient complains about. A sign is found from exmaination. Metabolic Syndrome, aka Syndrome X, is defined by labatory and physical testing.

1 posted on 02/06/2008 1:17:40 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

You only drink diet coke if you are fat.

That’s why it’s linked.

I know what I am talking about.


2 posted on 02/06/2008 1:27:58 AM PST by Rummenigge (there are people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: neverdem
I can give up the Diet-Coke but I'm not giving up the rum.

Now where's that shot glass...

3 posted on 02/06/2008 1:29:36 AM PST by South40 (Amnesty is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: Rummenigge
You only drink diet coke if you are fat.

I drink diet Coke and I'm not fat, nor did I start drinking it for that reason. I don't like the sugary taste of regular cola.

4 posted on 02/06/2008 1:44:53 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: neverdem
Never daily dose yourself with an artificial sweetner that the US Army also looked at for use as a chemical weapon...
5 posted on 02/06/2008 2:05:49 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Graybeard58

I have refused ALL “diet” sodas, but I LIKE coke “zero”.

Call me a shill, or what you will. I LIKE Coke Zero, which is far more than I can say FOR what is called “Coke” up here where LEGAL folk pay their OWN way.


6 posted on 02/06/2008 2:14:44 AM PST by Don W (Vote YOUR Honor, or it could become: Vote, your Honor.....)
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To: Rummenigge

Correlation does not equal causation.

I agree it is very possible that people who tend drink diet sodas tend to be people who are overweight and watching their weight.


7 posted on 02/06/2008 2:17:52 AM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: neverdem

I like Code Red Mountain Dew.


8 posted on 02/06/2008 2:38:40 AM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Truthsearcher

Doctores and statistics are a very special combination producing the strangest flowers....

...and it’s the tabloids making them bloom.


9 posted on 02/06/2008 3:01:48 AM PST by Rummenigge (there are people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: neverdem

I’ve weighed a lot and I’ve weighed a little but the one constant in my diet has been what some people claim is an excessive amount of Diet Pepsi.

I have found however that if I watch what I eat and move around a little, I tend to be smaller. It’s just not as much fun.


10 posted on 02/06/2008 3:31:32 AM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: neverdem

btt


11 posted on 02/06/2008 4:28:30 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: neverdem
I only drink the 'real thing' - Coke in a glass bottle. None of the rest taste that good. Of course, my preferred drink is unsweet iced tea.

If I use a sweetner, I use sugar - no chemicals for me, thank you.

12 posted on 02/06/2008 4:32:04 AM PST by mathluv
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To: Rummenigge

“You only drink diet coke if you are fat.”

I have noticed that too. It seems to be without exception.

The person fills his/her face with masses of food but has an order of diet coke on the side.


13 posted on 02/06/2008 5:19:39 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: neverdem
I've seen articles poster to FR about the artificial sweeteners in diet sodas being harder on the liver...And apparently if you drink diet sodas the chemicals in them target your "appetite centers" so drinking diet sodas makes a person hungrier than they would be if they drink other beverages...Anyhow, here's some earlier articles on diet sodas:

Report: Soda May Seriously Harm Your Health

Daily soft drinks - even diet - linked to higher heart disease risk: study (BARF)

Diet Soft Drinks May Not Be So Great For Weight Loss

14 posted on 02/06/2008 6:29:57 AM PST by Verloona Ti
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Yup. Like the diet coke is the thing that’s going to save them from piling on the pounds.


15 posted on 02/06/2008 7:55:55 AM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: neverdem

Everything is moderation. A conflicting report on this will be out next month...I’m sick of these so called researchers and their stupid findings. I don’t believe any of it anymore.....


16 posted on 02/06/2008 8:09:35 AM PST by Fawn (Who shall I vote for...Hmmmm....HIllary or McCain. Tough call.)
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To: mathluv

Me too! I love Coke in the little bottle, especially at Christmastime with Santa on it.

In the book “Natural Cures They Don’t Want You To Know About,” the author says that diet drinks are known as liquid crack because of all the chemicals that are used. Also, Aspertame is an “autotoxin” like MSG. He also says that you’re better off drinking the real thing with sugar than the diet drink because diet drinks cause the body to hold on to fat.


17 posted on 02/06/2008 8:15:57 AM PST by Kodie39 (Mitten for Romney! Purrrrrrr....)
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To: Kodie39

I used to drink four cans of soda a day. For the past 8 months, it’s pretty much been H2O for me, and I’ve never felt better.

Sodas are poison, diet or regular.


18 posted on 02/06/2008 8:19:15 AM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: Kodie39

If you can find anything with real sugar.... High Fructose Corn Syrup has replaced can sugar in nearly every soda and premade food anymore... I personally thing HFCS is responsible for all the health problems and obesity we are seeing more than anything else.

Its the single biggest dietary change that americans have undergone in the last few decades, its replaced real sugar in everything.


19 posted on 02/06/2008 8:25:26 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Rummenigge
You only drink diet coke if you are fat.

I drink Diet Coke and I'm not fat, just pleasingly plump.

20 posted on 02/06/2008 8:28:52 AM PST by WesternPacific (I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils!)
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To: AmericaUnited

Splenda?


21 posted on 02/06/2008 8:31:02 AM PST by MJemison
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To: MJemison
Actually it was Aspartame.
22 posted on 02/06/2008 8:49:04 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Fawn

I disagree. Everything to EXCESS! Moderation is for Monks!


23 posted on 02/06/2008 8:58:29 AM PST by Don W (Vote YOUR Honor, or it could become: Vote, your Honor.....)
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To: neverdem
I also read somewhere that the incidence of esophageal cancer has increased in direct relationship to the increase in drinking carbonated sodas.

Carolyn

24 posted on 02/06/2008 9:07:55 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: dfwgator

I pretty much drink water all day, too.

Btw, are you a gator fan?


25 posted on 02/06/2008 9:29:01 AM PST by Kodie39 (Mitten for Romney! Purrrrrrr....)
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To: dfwgator

I pretty much drink water all day, too.

Btw, are you a gator fan?


26 posted on 02/06/2008 9:29:05 AM PST by Kodie39 (Mitten for Romney! Purrrrrrr....)
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To: Kodie39
Also, Aspertame is an “autotoxin”

Autotoxins are developed within the body. How does aspartame, which has to be consumed, qualify as an autotoxin?

Just about anything can be toxic if you consume enough of it. Even drinking too much water can kill you. Aspartame is made up of phenylalanine, which is an amino acid found in all proteins; aspartic acid which is another amino acid common in vegetables; and methanol, which is common in fruit. A glass of apple juice contains more methanol than several diet cokes.

How can these components be toxic as aspartame but not when we consume them naturally in the food we eat every day?

He also says that you’re better off drinking the real thing with sugar than the diet drink because diet drinks cause the body to hold on to fat.

I'm willing to bet the author of this has never passed a course in basic nutrition or physiology.

27 posted on 02/06/2008 12:06:40 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: WesternPacific

Or as some would say, Big Boned.


28 posted on 02/06/2008 12:11:01 PM PST by stevio ((NRA))
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To: Don W

I like coke zero as well.


29 posted on 02/06/2008 12:12:15 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Mark was here

I drank 4 liters of that stuff one day, after attending a chocolate sampling event. I was so wired I stayed up for 2 days. That does not deter the fact that it is damn good :).


30 posted on 02/06/2008 12:16:17 PM PST by Xenophon450 (I guess I'll never know, some things under the sun can never be understood...)
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To: Mase

Aspartame is an excitotoxin.

Aspartame contains methanol, a wood alcohol which is a deadly poison.

There are documented stories of people who have turned their health around by getting off of msg and aspartame, both excitotoxins.


31 posted on 02/06/2008 12:20:53 PM PST by Kodie39 (Mitten for Romney! Purrrrrrr....)
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To: Mase

Aspartame—I read an article years ago that Aspartame turns into formaldahyde once it gets into the body.


32 posted on 02/06/2008 12:21:20 PM PST by DallasDeb ((a.k.a. USAFA2006Mom!))
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To: Kodie39

We have gotten rid of all excitotoxins in our daily diet and it has made a huge difference. Excitotoxins are ADDICTIVE. Suddenly my kids eat regular food and love it.

MSG has so many hidden names (google about it) that you have to avoid all foods with ANY of them in the ingredients, including the nice-sounding euphemism “natural flavors.”

99.9% of all supermarket packaged foods have them in them. All crackers (except your most basic) have msg. But MSG is what makes people want to eat more and more and more of something. When we get any truly natural baked goods, my family seems to only eat a smaller amount and be satisfied.

Eating MSG and aspartame and HFCS means you are addicted to unhealthy chemicals. Try going off them (but it also means you have to carry your own food around because there is not much in a snack machine you can eat any more) for far better health and the natural taste of real foods.


33 posted on 02/06/2008 12:31:27 PM PST by Yaelle (Being McCain-boarded feels like you're drowning, too)
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To: DallasDeb
Aspartame—I read an article years ago that Aspartame turns into formaldahyde once it gets into the body.

IIRC, aspartame is 50% phenylalanine, 39% aspartic acid and 11% methanol. It is the methanol component that is converted into formaldehyde and then into formic acid.

It doesn't matter what the source of methanol is, whether it's from apples, tomatoes, strawberries or red wine, it's all converted in the same manner. Your liver is very adept at removing this minute amount of toxin from your body. You consume all sorts of toxins that occur naturally in the foods and beverages you eat every day. To worry about the small amount of methanol contained in aspartame makes absolutely no sense.

34 posted on 02/06/2008 12:33:36 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: DallasDeb

“Aspartame—I read an article years ago that Aspartame turns into formaldahyde once it gets into the body.”

Which why I am so well preserved...


35 posted on 02/06/2008 12:34:17 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: neverdem
My husband's family has been in the soft drink business since the early 1900's....and I stopped drinking diet sodas 3 years ago.

I always thought the regular sodas tasted toooo sweet.

Now I drink water to satisfy my thirst.....and occasionally add scotch:-)

36 posted on 02/06/2008 12:42:17 PM PST by moondoggie
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To: Verloona Ti

Thanks for the links.


37 posted on 02/06/2008 1:08:09 PM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) said: "The person fills his/her face with masses of food but has an order of diet coke on the side."

Despite the high caloric content of the rest of the meal, eliminating the calories of a regular coke is a reduction of calories that otherwise would be consumed.

Also, you may be looking at somebody like me who doesn't tolerate sugar well.

38 posted on 02/06/2008 1:48:30 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: Rummenigge

I’m a big-time Diet Cokehead. Check my profile page and decide for yourself if I’m fat.


39 posted on 02/06/2008 1:49:49 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Kodie39
Aspartame is an excitotoxin.

But I thought it was an autotoxin? For three components that occur so abundantly in the foods we eat every day, they sure appear to be highly toxic. Makes you wonder why the FDA ever approved it or why people who've spent their lives studying food science consume it without fear.

So, according to your sources, if I eat a steak with peas and potatoes and then wash it all down with a little red wine or some apple juice, I'm causing neuronal cell death and placing myself at risk of a stroke and Huntington's disease or early Alzheimer's. Wow. Who knew?

Aspartame contains methanol, a wood alcohol which is a deadly poison.

So does fruit juice, red wine, strawberries, tomatoes or many other fruits and vegetables. Are you claiming that those foods, which most agree are good for us, are really highly toxic?

If you're afraid of methanol you should also be afraid to eat lima beans because they contain cyanide, potatoes contain arsenic, carrots, celery, lettuce and pears all contain caffeic acid which is a powerful carcinogen. Orange Juice contains limonene, which is used as paint stripper. Coffee, when it's roasted, creates more than 600 chemicals many of which are highly toxic.

Anyway, the point is you eat and drink lots of things that offer toxic substances but you're body easily deals with it without result. People drink ethanol regularly (which is also highly toxic) and your liver does a fine job of clearing it. As it is said, it's the dosage that makes the poison.

There are documented stories of people who have turned their health around by getting off of msg and aspartame, both excitotoxins.

People will believe all sorts of things and the internet is a great place to prove it. The power of suggestion has always been underestimated. People will continue to buy into things that science proves otherwise.

40 posted on 02/06/2008 3:02:43 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: mathluv

My favorite sweetener.

41 posted on 02/06/2008 3:34:49 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: Yaelle
MSG has so many hidden names (google about it) that you have to avoid all foods with ANY of them in the ingredients, including the nice-sounding euphemism “natural flavors.”

Glutamate occurs naturally in most foods and is available in large amounts in food you eat every day. It's nearly impossible to avoid it if you eat a balanced and varied diet. Your body cannot differentiate between the glutamate found naturally in foods and that in MSG. Your body creates glutamate naturally in much greater quantities than the average person consumes.

But MSG is what makes people want to eat more and more and more of something.

Your body handles glutamate in the same way regardless of its source. Glutamate has not been shown to have any impact on our metabolism.

Eating MSG and aspartame and HFCS means you are addicted to unhealthy chemicals.

Considering glutamate occurs naturally in almost all foods, and the fact that your body couldn't survive without it, you're going to have a hard time proving it is an unhealthy chemical. Aspartame is comprised of three components that are found naturally in food we eat every day. HFCS is made up of the same two chemicals as table sugar. If HFCS is evil then so is regular old sugar.

42 posted on 02/06/2008 3:39:35 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

“The person fills his/her face with masses of food but has an order of diet coke on the side”

My son tends towards overweight. He works, spends his own money on food, goes out with friends, etc.

I have pretty successfully switched him to diet sodas, so that at least when he orders fast food, he avoids those empty calories. I am working on getting him to avoid the fries, and to switch to wraps when at McDonalds.

I suppose you might see him “stuffing his face,” but at least he’s stuffing it with a little less. Hopefully small permanent changes over time will help him get lighter.


43 posted on 02/06/2008 3:39:47 PM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: Marie2

With all due respect, I am sure your son will make it. I did not mean to insult.

I think a few of us were referring to those faceless tanks that take up three seats, eat as if there is no tomorrow, and then down everything with a diet drink.

It continues to boggle my mind. I can’t get use to that scene.

Heck, if I don’t take care of myself, I would have a weight problem too. In the morning I have a regular coke. (I live in the tropics, so I like something cold in the morning rather than a hot beverage.)

When I go to a restaurant, I rarely...almost never...can eat all that is served. And then I think about all those hungry children in India : ). What I can’t eat, I ask them to bundle it up, and I finish it at home the next day. But I see people stuffing their faces as if it were their last meal.

What do I have at my side? A good Manhattan cocktail and then a wine with my meal. No diet coke for me.

My best regards.

Again, I meant no insult to you or your family.


44 posted on 02/06/2008 8:09:41 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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45 posted on 02/06/2008 9:31:52 PM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: Graybeard58; neverdem

Ditto that .....just tastes less sweet IMO.

But I do drink a lot of Diet Soda at work yet my recent heart scan, blood test says clean pipes, low cholesterol, perfect blood sugar etc ........I think there is something too the fat folks and diet soda connection as a common factor for folks that are just too fat.

Goobermint research funding drives such junk science conclusions IMO.


46 posted on 02/06/2008 9:37:58 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: dfwgator

“Sodas are poison, diet or regular.”

So true. I haven’t drank them for 20 years, my health is excellent. I occassionally have Knudsens Spritzers, all natural, no caffeine or artificial sugar.


47 posted on 02/06/2008 9:45:00 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Rummenigge

Hey, I have relatives who drink this all the time and aren’t fat - not even a little overweight - although they might be if they switched to regular pop.


48 posted on 02/06/2008 9:45:35 PM PST by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: neverdem; Coleus; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

“I switched from sugar in my coffee to sweet and low. Now I’ve developed artificial diabetes!” — Rodney Dangerfield


49 posted on 02/06/2008 9:49:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: neverdem

btt


50 posted on 02/06/2008 9:59:13 PM PST by Ciexyz
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