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HILLARY! UNCENSORED: "Crooked Claims About Clinton" - Dave Schippers not happy with hit piece
"fact" check dot org/phone call with Schippers ^ | 2-6-08 | Novak/DFU

Posted on 02/06/2008 5:07:59 AM PST by doug from upland

HIT PIECE ON "FACT" CHECK DOT ORG

For those who had not seen it, a former TIME MAG journalist (she got canned) named Viveca Novak did a hit piece on HILLARY! UNCENSORED: Banned by the Media.

As you can see by the incendiary headline and sub-headline, there was clearly an agenda. It wasn't a "fact" check; it was an editorial to dismiss the film, dismiss the importance of the lawsuit, and do some damage control. Perhaps Hillary is mildly concerned. After it appeared on "fact" check dot org, it was placed on Newsweek's website. While purporting to be non-partisan, it is clear that the piece was designed to do damage to the film whose unedited 13-minute segment on Google Videos and YouTube has been seen by four million people.

Pursuant to Novak's boss, Brooks Jackson, yesterday I submitted a 12-page response which he promised to place on his website if it was not a rant. It was a reasoned piece and definitely not a rant. I have made contact with someone at Newsweek and am awaiting their promise to allow me to answer.

Now, on to Dave Schippers. Here is what the "non-partisan" Novak told her readers in her hit piece:

Many of the individuals and groups helping Paul have long histories of Clinton-bashing or attacks on other Democrats. David Schippers, for example, who appears on the tape, is the former chief investigative counsel for the Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee during the 1998 Clinton impeachment hearings.

That's fair and non-partisan, right? Here is my response to that journalistic equivalent of a drive-by shooting:

Of all the conclusions in the entire piece, perhaps more than any others, this is the most unfair. Dave Schippers is a great American. It is a shame that the above description is the only reference to him. Schippers worked in the Kennedy Justice Department and helped take down the Chicago Mob. He is a lifelong Democrat. And perhaps most importantly, Novak failed to mention that he twice voted for Bill Clinton. No one can dispute that such background information about Schippers is important.

While discussing on the phone what Novak did to him, I suggested to Schippers that it might be appropriate to demand an apology and retraction from Novak. He thought that such might be a good idea. Here is hoping he takes the time to do it.

What Novak did regarding Lucianne Goldberg shows more about her journalist integrity:

Another character from that era who is involved in this story is Lucianne Goldberg.

The response:

Yes, it was on Goldberg’s site that the link on Google Videos was leaked to her readers. But there was no conspiracy here. The rough-cut segment on Google Videos was unpublished and for our internal use and that of journalists. Someone who saw it apparently alerted Goldberg to the URL. She simply put the URL on her website so others could see it. That was her role, and it was done without any direction from those involved with our film, including Paul. It wasn’t sinister at all. I find it curious that some kind of conspiratorial link was created here. As an aside, and since the CLINTON CHRONICLES was mentioned in Novak‘s analysis, a comment is necessary. Many of you came to know that documentary as the “Falwell video.” Did you know that Jerry Falwell had absolutely nothing to do with the production or editing of that documentary? He simply became one of the distributors and generated revenue through distribution. His name was used in an attempt to discredit the film. I will raise the question here. Was an association made with the “Clinton basher“ Goldberg an attempt to taint or diminish the work we have done for HILLARY! UNCENSORED? The readers can make that determination.

On another interesting note, Novak, who admitted that she only reviewed the 13-minute unedited rough-cut segment, actually described Peter Paul as the narrator of the film. That is a mistake that someone supposedly doing a thoughtful piece would not make. It requires a suspension of disbelief.

When(or if) Jackson publishes the response, I will bring it here. If he doesn't, you'll see it anyway, and we will try to find a way to give him some grief on the net and on YouTube.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; hillary; hillaryclinton; hillaryscandals; hillaryuncensored; peterpaul; schippers; vivecanovak
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1 posted on 02/06/2008 5:08:06 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

Hang in there Doug.


2 posted on 02/06/2008 5:12:28 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Feb. 21 status conference in Los Angeles to set trial date and open way for discovery.


3 posted on 02/06/2008 5:16:26 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

BTTT


4 posted on 02/06/2008 5:19:39 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: doug from upland

BTTT


5 posted on 02/06/2008 5:19:44 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

p i n g


6 posted on 02/06/2008 5:22:21 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

Good luck, Doug.


7 posted on 02/06/2008 5:25:06 AM PST by cake_crumb (American Conservative Union prez endorsed ROMNEY over McCain. 'Nuff said.)
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To: All
Serious fact check or kneepad-wearing Hillary surrogate drive by? You decide.


8 posted on 02/06/2008 5:28:58 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

ping


9 posted on 02/06/2008 5:30:56 AM PST by phs3 (If you call a terrorist a freedom fighter, I call you the enemy.)
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To: doug from upland

yes, hang in there Doug. The Clinton Machine is in action....


10 posted on 02/06/2008 5:36:04 AM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: doug from upland

BTTT


11 posted on 02/06/2008 5:51:18 AM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: doug from upland

bttt for follow up...


12 posted on 02/06/2008 5:57:26 AM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: norm685

West Virgina proves that the only reason Huckabee is staying in is to lock the nomination for McCain.


14 posted on 02/06/2008 6:56:53 AM PST by cake_crumb (American Conservative Union prez endorsed ROMNEY over McCain. 'Nuff said.)
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To: norm685
I don’t know why anyone is concentrating on a bogus story about Hillary

I want an apology for that, newbie.

15 posted on 02/06/2008 6:59:32 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: norm685

Waiting.


16 posted on 02/06/2008 7:02:40 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: norm685

You are calling me a liar, and I want an apology.


17 posted on 02/06/2008 7:46:35 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: All

Brooks Jackson received my 12-page response late yesterday. He responded this morning that he will look it over today will report back to me as soon as he can.


18 posted on 02/06/2008 7:47:57 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

BTTT


19 posted on 02/06/2008 8:25:22 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: All

NEWSWEEK says that it has no responsibility. They merely host the factcheck material on their site Oh, really?


20 posted on 02/06/2008 8:42:58 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

I’ve been watching for it, good luck!


21 posted on 02/06/2008 8:54:33 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: Congressman Billybob; Buckhead; Nick Danger; Alamo-Girl; The Shrew; backhoe; prairiebreeze; ...
Doug from Upland "Peter Paul & Hillary" PING!

Latest News on Hillary Scandals





Ping List ADD/REMOVE--FReepmail me, not DFU--DO NOT use the "Post_Reply" function, I might not see your request if you don't use FReepmail, thanks.

22 posted on 02/06/2008 5:44:34 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: doug from upland

Hillary cant stay immuned to prosecution forever

Hopefully it will happen before Nov


23 posted on 02/06/2008 5:49:47 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: doug from upland

You'll never get me Doug, cackle, cackle, cackle!!


24 posted on 02/06/2008 5:51:54 PM PST by PROCON (Dems=You can Fool Some of the People all of the Time--Abraham Lincoln)
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To: doug from upland

norm685 is banned or suspended


25 posted on 02/06/2008 5:53:33 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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26 posted on 02/06/2008 5:58:25 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

This is such a lie. I hate these people.

Go Doug Go Get Em.


27 posted on 02/06/2008 5:59:17 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

She will never be prosecuted, but we hope the civil case will finally expose the crime for all to see.


28 posted on 02/06/2008 6:00:37 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

I am amazed at the fraud out there. Can you believe it?


29 posted on 02/06/2008 6:01:05 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: sageb1

It would have been nice if he had given me an apology. He knows next to nothing about the story, joins a few days ago, and labels this a bogus story about Clinton.


30 posted on 02/06/2008 6:03:53 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

Agree, but I don’t think the mod was in the mood to give him/her/it a second chance.


31 posted on 02/06/2008 6:05:31 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: cake_crumb
West Virgina proves that the only reason Huckabee is staying in is to lock the nomination for McCain.

I'm too disgusted to listen to the news, what happened in WV?

32 posted on 02/06/2008 6:07:07 PM PST by SwankyC (McCain is the wrong man for the job.)
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To: doug from upland

So tell the douche bag to “host” your response


33 posted on 02/06/2008 6:08:42 PM PST by SwankyC (McCain is the wrong man for the job.)
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To: doug from upland

I heard a Hillary sound bite the other day and she said something to the effect that she would not be “Swift Boated”.

Do you think that her comment was prompted by your movie and that she’s setting the stage to counter it?


34 posted on 02/06/2008 6:12:05 PM PST by choirboy
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To: SwankyC

When I was in Washington a couple weeks ago, they ran the hit piece. I spoke with him on the phone, and he told me he would put my response on factcheck.org as long as it wasn’t a rant. It is absolutlely not a rant. I spent many, many hours dissecting what she said and giving additional background. Waiting.


35 posted on 02/06/2008 6:14:04 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: choirboy

I don’t know about that, but I know that she is well aware of the film. I have sent her many fax demands to return Peter’s money and Oto’s money and correct her fraudulent FEC reports. She was even invited to attend the screening on Oct. 26 at Harvard — that was her 60th birthday. She didn’t show.


36 posted on 02/06/2008 6:16:02 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: PROCON

PRICELESS! And not true. There will be a day of reckoning.


37 posted on 02/06/2008 6:26:04 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: doug from upland

Thanks for the ping. BUMP!


38 posted on 02/06/2008 6:27:13 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
There will be a day of reckoning.

I'm with ya, just having fun with Doug!! :)

39 posted on 02/06/2008 6:29:27 PM PST by PROCON (Dems=You can Fool Some of the People all of the Time--Abraham Lincoln)
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To: PROCON

40 posted on 02/06/2008 6:47:20 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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41 posted on 02/06/2008 6:49:41 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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42 posted on 02/06/2008 6:53:43 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
Doug, I am not gullible nor, I think, naive.

If Hillary is the dims nominee, between now and Election Day, a whole lot a $h!t is gonna be coming out about Her Thighness, that will turn some of the sheeple our way, let's just hope we don't have another 1992 Perot debacle with Ron Paul or worse!

Can only hope for the Kucinich/McKinney ticket!!

Keep up the good work!!

43 posted on 02/06/2008 6:55:59 PM PST by PROCON (Dems=You can Fool Some of the People all of the Time--Abraham Lincoln)
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To: doug from upland

Doug, we’re pulling for you. Slow and steady wins the race.


44 posted on 02/06/2008 6:57:07 PM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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45 posted on 02/06/2008 6:59:33 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: PROCON

The Republicans can put out all kinds of stuff. They can even finally leak what is redacted in the Barrett Report. But unless people hear it from Katie, Brian, Charlie, and Wolfie, they won’t believe it. The NY SLIMES and WASHPOST will call it mean-spirited negative campaigning.


46 posted on 02/06/2008 7:01:31 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
I know it's tough and you've heard it all before, but be of stout heart, my FRiend!!

Stranger things have happened!!

47 posted on 02/06/2008 7:04:58 PM PST by PROCON (Dems=You can Fool Some of the People all of the Time--Abraham Lincoln)
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* Novak: Somebody else solicited Cher to appear at the fundraiser. Clinton may have thanked her for agreeing to perform, but she did not ask her to do so.

Additional background information may prove helpful here. Hillary not only initiated a call to Cher, she initiated one to Diana Ross. Tonken has stated such, and his sworn testimony is expected to confirm it. Tonken did indeed begin the solicitation of the performances. In the case of those two mega-stars, however, Tonken did not seal the deal. Unlike the others who performed, Cher and Ross had a requirement prior to their final agreement. Each of them required a personal phone call from Hillary herself to discuss it. Tonken set it up; Hillary sealed the deal or they would not have performed. As Tonken stated on tape, he had never been able to get Cher to do a political fundraiser like this before. Hillary did a great job as the closer.

48 posted on 02/06/2008 7:05:12 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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* Novak; It's possible, though, that Hillary Clinton could be called as a witness.

Possible? As presented in our film, the readers deserve to know the rest of the story and what Judge Aurelio Munoz said in his courtroom on April 7, 2006. The words I watched him say in his courtroom we present in the documentary: “I will entertain no motion that prevents Senator Clinton from testifying in this case……………..did you hear that, Mr. Kendall?”

49 posted on 02/06/2008 7:07:09 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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(Not included in the response, but for clarity: I have great respect and admiration for Bob and Scott. For their work regarding John Kerry, this nation owes them a debt of gratitude.)

* Novak: According to the Associated Press, the HillCAP Web site is operated by two conservatives who were instrumental in the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth site in 2004, Robert Hahn and Scott Swett.

Again, the only point I can see for the reference is to diminish the credibility of our work and associate them with the film. Neither Hahn nor Swett is responsible for writing, editing, directing, narrating, operating a camera, or producing HILLARY! UNCENSORED. They are webmasters who manage the documents and content on the website. They have done so competently and at a reasonable price.

50 posted on 02/06/2008 7:11:06 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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