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Congress Extends Do Not Call Program
AP via SFGate ^ | 2/6/8 | JIM ABRAMS, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 02/06/2008 5:49:08 PM PST by SmithL

WASHINGTON, (AP) -- Politicians have finally found an issue they all can agree on: Telemarketers calling at dinnertime are a scourge that must be repulsed.

Congress on Wednesday sent to President Bush two bills that would make permanent a program to protect consumers from unwanted phone calls from telemarketers. Its hallmark is the national "do not call" list.

"This initiative has proven to be one of the most popular laws in history," said Rep. G.K. Butterfield, D-N.C. Extending the program was necessary "to avoid the wrath of millions of angry constituents."

The Do Not Call Registry, initiated in 2003, has been widely acclaimed for allowing Americans to eat their suppers in peace. Some 150 million people have listed their phones on the registry, which prohibits calls from telemarketers.

"I remember times we just used to take our phones off the hook," said Rep. Mike Doyle, D-Pa., a leader on the issue, recalling pre-registry days.

"Consumers without exception hate the annoyance of intrusive telemarketer calls at dinnertime," said Chris Murray, senior counsel for Consumers Union. "When nearly every American household has taken the time to register, that says something really strong."

Rep. Michael Burgess, R-Texas, put it in political terms: "With a 10 percent approval rating it is incumbent upon us to continue to pass legislation that is indeed popular."

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1 posted on 02/06/2008 5:49:09 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Then why are they still calling?


2 posted on 02/06/2008 5:49:48 PM PST by TADSLOS (Conservatism means never having to say "I voted for John McCain for the sake of the GOP")
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To: SmithL

Gee, did the politicians exempt themselves?


3 posted on 02/06/2008 5:51:00 PM PST by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: TADSLOS

Good question. Why wasn’t the do not call list permanent?


4 posted on 02/06/2008 5:53:14 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: Texas Eagle

women,minorities and now seniors hit harder


5 posted on 02/06/2008 5:54:25 PM PST by italianquaker (I will vote for Bozo the Clown instead of hillary and obama hussein barack)
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To: TADSLOS

McCain’s robo-call left a message on my answering machine today (in MD).


6 posted on 02/06/2008 5:57:46 PM PST by mathprof
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To: SmithL

saving


7 posted on 02/06/2008 5:58:36 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: TADSLOS

Exactly. I’m on the list. 5 calls starting around 5 p.m. just tonight.


8 posted on 02/06/2008 5:58:48 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: TADSLOS

Some of the most disreputable companies ignore the do not call list. There is new help, though. There is a web site that helps identify the origin of the calls, so that you can make a complaint. I think that it is called, Who’s calling me. If you google the phone number that appears on your caller ID, it usually comes up in the top few listings. People post the numbers and any information that they have found about the callers. It’s cool, I’ve gotten rid of two pests, that way. I called them back and told them that it was illegal to keep calling me and the state attorney general’s office told me that I could get $500 per call and triple damages if they continued to call me after I notified them. They immediately changed their answer and assured me that the calls would be stopped.


9 posted on 02/06/2008 6:00:23 PM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: TADSLOS
One of the best laws ever -

If any telemarketer calls you - take down name, date and time.

Tell them you are on the DO NOT CAll list and hang up.

When they call again, get contact name again - inform them that you are turning them in and will be collecting the $5,000 they now owe you for breaking the law.

You will never hear from them again.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/rapidreport/2007/11/compaines-rin-1.html

10 posted on 02/06/2008 6:01:37 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: SmithL

I’ve been on this since it came out - it’s made a world of difference except for the local police/fireman calling asking for money they should get from the government in the first place.

Why can’t we get a “do not mail” list too? That’s where they’re going now anyway.


11 posted on 02/06/2008 6:02:46 PM PST by TheZMan (I'm going to write my own name on the ballot. Screw the current crop of "conservatives".)
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To: Texas Eagle; TADSLOS; sageb1; mathprof

The “Do Not Call” law has always explicitly excluded politicians, non-profits, and businesses that you already have a relationship with (like your bank or newspaper). They are still allowed to bother you.


12 posted on 02/06/2008 6:03:23 PM PST by SmithL (My tagline dropped out)
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To: SmithL

You would think that if we could send a man to the moon, we could stop unwanted FAXs.


13 posted on 02/06/2008 6:03:53 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

Many UNWANTED faxes as well as the newest form of torment in business, Recorded messages. Every week at work I get at least
5 a day, sometime more. An they are all BS.


14 posted on 02/06/2008 6:10:27 PM PST by MarineMom613 (My Son is My Hero!!!)
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To: TheZMan
Why can’t we get a “do not mail” list too?

Your wish is granted

https://www.directmail.com/directory/mail_preference/faq.aspx


15 posted on 02/06/2008 6:12:05 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: SmithL

Now if I would stop getting junk mail....


16 posted on 02/06/2008 6:12:42 PM PST by CollegeRepublican
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To: SmithL

Why is this the govt’s problem? How about we pass a bill that says if there are no good ideas left, the legislators can go home, with pay, just to stay out of mischief?


17 posted on 02/06/2008 6:14:18 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( There is still time........brother.)
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To: SmithL

Okay, so Congress did one thing right out of 5000. A toast—to the one thing done correctly.


18 posted on 02/06/2008 6:17:33 PM PST by madison10 (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: SmithL
I don't know what we (my family) would do without caller ID. No ID, No answer. Not quite true. Mostly an answer and hang up. We still get annoying repeat calls that seem to be immune to any kind of "No Call" instructions.

A lot of calls with caller ID get a quick answer/hang up if we suspect that they are not something we want. Too bad congress can't impose a death penalty on unwanted calls, faxes and emails.

19 posted on 02/06/2008 6:17:42 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: maine-iac7
Your wish is granted https://www.directmail.com/directory/mail_preference/faq.aspx

Thanks for posting the link. I'm curious whether you've used it. I went to the site and it looks legit, but it sure does have the potential to be just another way of mining data. Can you vouch for it?

20 posted on 02/06/2008 6:28:46 PM PST by KevinB
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To: maine-iac7

“Your wish is granted”
Cool! Signed up. If I get a ton of crap in my mailbox next week cause it’s a scam I’m going to hunt you down and bury you in junk mail.


21 posted on 02/06/2008 6:44:20 PM PST by TheZMan (I'm going to write my own name on the ballot. Screw the current crop of "conservatives".)
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To: TheZMan
it’s made a world of difference except for the local police/fireman calling asking for money they should get from the government in the first place.

Many of those are from scam charities which contact your local police/fire to get to use their name and then only pass on a couple percent of the donation and keep the rest. If you want to give money to your police or fire departments, give money to them directly instead of to a "charity" calling to sell tickets/jam/some other crap.

22 posted on 02/06/2008 6:56:04 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: SmithL
Put this tone on the front-end of your answer message and the robo-callers will think your number is no longer valid, and you will be taken out of their system. Your normal callers may be spooked a little, but once they hear your voice talking, they'll leave you a message.

http://www.yourhomenow.com/sit.html

23 posted on 02/06/2008 6:58:10 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: SmithL
Rep. Michael Burgess, R-Texas, put it in political terms: "With a 10 percent approval rating it is incumbent upon us to continue to pass legislation that is indeed popular."

Dear Mr. Burgess,
If congress did indeed give a rat's ass about how the public views it, you people would secure the border and prosecute employers for hiring illegals. Nah, fighting annoying phone calls is much more important. What a PantLoadTM


24 posted on 02/06/2008 7:24:28 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: SERKIT

I am on the do not call list, but in recent months I have been getting robo-calls where you have to press a number to connect. I am reluctant to press a number as I do not want to seem to be calling them. I do not have caller ID so how can I stop these unwanted solicitations?

Thanks


25 posted on 02/06/2008 7:31:27 PM PST by learner
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To: SmithL

I got a Fraternal Order of Police call recently. The first thing out of his mouth was to remind me to buckle up and never drink and drive.

The first thing out of my mouth was not repeatable here.

What is worse? A company asking for business? Or some government stooge or politician hectoring me?

These laws are an abomination. Too cheap to get caller ID? Just get politicians to criminalize people doing an honest job!


26 posted on 02/06/2008 7:33:11 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments
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To: TADSLOS

My wife answered the phone a while back and it was a sales pitch.
She told the guy we are on the No Call List and he said “go to hell” click.


27 posted on 02/06/2008 7:39:26 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: KevinB
no - you might want to GOOGLE and explore from there...you can also look for an 800 number or other way to contact each sender - magazines/catalogs will have a contact info on the address area - or you can cut out that address square with your name on it and mail it to them with a DO NOT SEND request - but that’s more time consuming, one on one, and you will still get new ones from new sources.I wish we could just request of our post office to not deliver all the stuff - but they can't NOT, by law. We have to do the DO NOT ourselves.

AS an alternative, I am designing a mail box that opens on both ends. At the back end, under the opening, is a 30 gal trash can.

Well, I've thought about it!

28 posted on 02/06/2008 7:41:42 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: learner
I do not have caller ID so how can I stop these unwanted solicitations?

The cheapest thing you can do is to get an inexpensive answering machine and record the tones at the very beginning your outgoing message as found at:

http://www.yourhomenow.com/sound/sit-tone.wav

Their robo-dialers will detect that your phone number is "out of service" and will delete your number from their database. Since these types of creeps share data, you number MAY be less and less likely to be dialed.

29 posted on 02/06/2008 7:42:13 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: TheZMan
it’s a scam I’m going to hunt you down and bury you in junk mail.

OOPS - then I'd better get my mail box design made - see my post #28

30 posted on 02/06/2008 7:45:03 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: TheZMan
“If I get a ton of crap in my mailbox next week cause it’s a scam I’m going to hunt you down and bury you in junk mail.”

What you do to people that annoy you and bother you with junk you don’t want....

If you know their name and address you sign them up for all sorts of junk.

Open any magazine and you will find tons of postpaid first month free stuff.

Everything from magazine subscriptions to the plate a month club. Most are send no money now, cancel at anytime garbage.

20-30 of those will keep them busy for the next couple years trying to cancel and sending stuff back.

Once they have them on file they refuse to cancel and they just keep billing and turn them in to collection agencies.

Be sure to check in the smut mag’s to sign them up to the gay/bi/lesbo registry.

31 posted on 02/06/2008 7:48:27 PM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

Haha


32 posted on 02/06/2008 7:54:11 PM PST by TheZMan (I'm going to write my own name on the ballot. Screw the current crop of "conservatives".)
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To: learner
I am reluctant to press a number as I do not want to seem to be calling them. I do not have caller ID so how can I stop these unwanted solicitations?

Two things.

1. I press the number - when they come on, if you ask what the name of the company is - they often hang up. If not, note the time, day and number...inform them "I am on the DO NOt Call list - you are calling illegally - do not call again."

Usually, you will get hung up on before you finish.

They will probably call back in a few weeks- this time tell them. "I am now going to report you and put in for my $500 fine from your company."

Again, they will hang up quickly and you are unlikely to ever hear from them again.

Most of the time, there will be no number showing - but if there is a number, you can find out who they are by going to the web site:

http://www.whocalled.us/

You can them report them to your state attorney generals office -

33 posted on 02/06/2008 7:58:11 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7

Thanks, very helpful advise. That is what I will do.

I seem to be getting a lot of these calls lately, robo calls, which we never got before.

Thanks again.


34 posted on 02/06/2008 8:09:52 PM PST by learner
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To: Texas Eagle

Yes, politicians are completely exempt from “do not call” legislation, of course. It makes my job as a loan officer much harder, but the pols could care less.


35 posted on 02/06/2008 11:26:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: Texas Eagle
Gee, did the politicians exempt themselves?

Of course they did, which makes the whole thing so hypocritical.

The first time I get a call from some granny asking me to vote for McCain, she is going to hear a blue streak from me like she has never heard and I have never spoken before.

And I'm going to demand to be placed on their Do Not Call list (whether they have one or not).

36 posted on 02/06/2008 11:32:40 PM PST by Tall_Texan (No Third Term For Bill Clinton!)
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To: Texas Eagle
Gee, did the politicians exempt themselves?

Political campaigns, charities, and pollsters are exempt.

37 posted on 02/07/2008 5:00:02 AM PST by kevkrom (Voters say they want substance, but then they just vote for the guy with nice hair instead.)
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To: Eva

We get lots of calls that come up on our caller ID as “out of area” with no number listed. I cannot even use my call blocker to block the last call received. It appears that there is no record of the incoming number and my telephone service is unable to help me. Any suggestions?


38 posted on 02/07/2008 5:04:49 AM PST by ops33
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To: Eva
There is a web site that helps identify the origin of the calls,

I've gotten calls from "spoof numbers - numbers that show up on caller ID, but that don't exist. Congress obviously needs to ban that as part of this bill.

39 posted on 02/07/2008 6:28:34 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: svcw; TADSLOS
Then why are they still calling?

*** Good question. Why wasn’t the do not call list permanent? ***

Heer's the thing, you know all those fliers in size 2 font you get with your Credit Card or Bank Statements that everyone throws away without reading. They say they can sell your info or use it themselves to bug you to no end -- unless you opt out. Usually per a 29 step formula (kidding, slightly).

And here's real funny one, I recently got a little flier with a Bank of America credit card statement. They were going to raise my annual interest rate by 4.5% -- unless I 'voluntarily' choose (how nice of them) to reject their (cough) 'nice offer' to take more of my money, and in writing.

Needless to say my letter went out the next day declining their offer to take more of my money.

40 posted on 02/07/2008 6:41:06 AM PST by Condor51 (I will NOT vote for McInsane, ever -- even if Waterboarded!)
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To: ops33

They are collection agencies, probably making calls for the person who previously had your number. The only thing that you can do is to answer the call, listen to their initial line and ask for a call back number before you answer their question. Tell them that you have been a victim of some phone fraud and need to have their call back number and name, before giving out any information. Then call them back and lay into them for calling you. Tell them that it is illegal to bother you with their problems and that if it happens again, you are going to report them to the state attorney general’s office for prosecution.


41 posted on 02/07/2008 7:04:41 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: learner

You seriously need caller ID.


42 posted on 02/07/2008 7:09:14 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: Eva

Thank you for your reply. When I answer the call there is no on on the other end, the line just disconnects. Ordinarily, I would not even bother to answer. However, my sister lives in Alaska and sometimes her calls come across as “out of area.” Also, my son is in Army basic training and one of the pay phones he called home on also came through “out of area.”

My phone company says its some type of auto dialer.


43 posted on 02/07/2008 10:22:31 AM PST by ops33
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To: TADSLOS

Are you registered?

If you register they will quit

CAveAT: Your bank can call


44 posted on 02/07/2008 10:26:57 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: mathprof

“McCain’s robo-call left a message on my answering machine today (in MD).”

Same with me in Va.


45 posted on 02/07/2008 10:31:31 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: SmithL; All
Do Not Call list is great, even if imperfect.

For the stuff that slips through:

NEWS FLASH!

You are under no moral or legal obligation to talk to these creeps.

When some critter I don't know calls ... I immediately demand (sometimes quite harshly) who is calling and what their business is. Also who they're trying to reach, unless they specify me (by both first and last name) up front.

If I don't like the answer, I hang up.

You don't have to "convince" them of anything. You don't have to engage them in conversation for any purpose.

Just hang up.

46 posted on 02/07/2008 10:35:55 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

My son likes to let telemarketers get wound up, then he interrupts with “excuse me, but since you don’t seem to be using your soul, may I have it?”

That usually ends the conversation.


47 posted on 02/07/2008 10:54:27 AM PST by SmithL (My tagline dropped out)
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To: SmithL
ROFL!!!!!

I'll have to try that one ...

Should I try the "innocently curious and earnestly helpful" tone of voice, or the "psycho creepy I-wish-I-was-Alice-Cooper" tone?

48 posted on 02/07/2008 11:06:09 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

He plays it straight, but the Alice Cooper approach might be fun.


49 posted on 02/07/2008 11:15:54 AM PST by SmithL (My tagline dropped out)
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To: bert

Yes, I originally registered when the program was established and re-registered again 6 months ago after I re-located and had a new phone #. Most are bot calls that occur at random times of the day. I’ll follow some of the good ideas here and see what happens.


50 posted on 02/07/2008 12:08:49 PM PST by TADSLOS (Conservatism means never having to say "I voted for John McCain for the sake of the GOP")
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