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Judge: Teaching Erotic Sex and that Homosexuality is Inborn to 8th and 10th Graders is OK
Thomas Moore Law Center ^ | February 5, 2008

Posted on 02/07/2008 5:58:55 AM PST by NYer

ANN ARBOR, MI – Maryland Circuit Court Judge William J. Rowan, III, ruled last week that it is permissible to teach 8th and 10th grade Montgomery County public school students how to use condoms during anal and oral sex, as well as that homosexuality is inborn, even though in 2007 Maryland’s highest appellate court ruled there is no scientific basis for such a conclusion.

The controversial new curriculum was adopted as a result of pressure by homosexual advocacy groups.

That sexual orientation is innate, namely, homosexuals are ‘born that way,’ is a theory that has been rejected by courts in several states including Maryland. Maryland’s highest appellate court issued an opinion in a 2007 civil union case, holding that the proposition that homosexuality is innate is not supported by credible evidence. In fact, not one U.S. court presented with the issue has found homosexuality to be an innate characteristic.

The Thomas More Law Center, a national public interest law firm based in Ann Arbor, Michigan, which represents Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum, the Family Leader Network, and the Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays had asked the Judge Rowan to overturn a Maryland Board of Education ruling that approves of public schools in Montgomery County, Maryland to teaching 8th and 10th graders that homosexuals are born that way, and how to use condoms during anal and oral sex.

274 Montgomery area doctors signed a petition objecting to the curriculum which promotes the notion that the use of condoms prevents disease in anal intercourse.

Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of the Thomas More Law Center commented, “Judge Rowan’s ruling gives a green light to homosexual groups throughout Maryland to pressure school boards to adopt similar policies. We will be meeting with our clients next week regarding an appeal.”

Montgomery educators defended their new sex curriculum that promotes anal sex, homosexuality, bisexuality and transvestitism despite strong opposition from several pro family groups.            

Brandon Bolling, the Thomas More Law Center attorney who argued the case, asked Judge Rowan to either declare the curriculum illegal or send it back to the state board of education for another review. “Maryland law says that you have to teach something that is factually accurate,” said Bolling. “They are not doing that, therefore it is illegal.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: activistcourts; ageofconsentlaws; antiabstinence; hedonism; homosexual; homosexualagenda; indoctrination; md; sexpositiveagenda; sexualizingchildren

1 posted on 02/07/2008 5:59:00 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 02/07/2008 6:00:05 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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3 posted on 02/07/2008 6:00:46 AM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: NYer

Let’s just require that all kids take courses in S&M, beastiality, cross-dressing, and fetishes and be done with it.


4 posted on 02/07/2008 6:01:58 AM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: NYer

Did I miss something or did this article leave out the most important part of the ruling?

IT IS NOT REQUIRED THAT THE SCHOOL NOTIFY THE PARENTS THAT THIS INFORMATION WILL BE TAUGHT IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO OPT OUT.


5 posted on 02/07/2008 6:02:01 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: NYer
Judge: Teaching Erotic Sex and that Homosexuality is Inborn to 8th and 10th Graders is OK

However, don't even THINK about talking about God.

6 posted on 02/07/2008 6:02:34 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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I’ll bet the judge’s hard-drive has something interesting stuff on it.


7 posted on 02/07/2008 6:05:51 AM PST by isom35
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To: NYer

Just so long as we keep the 10 Commandments and the idea of a Creator out of the schools, everything will be fine. (sarcasm off)


8 posted on 02/07/2008 6:10:10 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: NYer

A widely attended session of “rimming” was held in the judge’s quarters after the ruling. /sarcasm


9 posted on 02/07/2008 6:11:21 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: NYer
I suppose I've never questioned that the propensity to BE homosexual may in some cases be genetically determined. BUT by that same argument, the propensity to be an alcoholic may also be a genetic predisposition. HOWEVER in NEITHER case should society condone the expression of either predisposition.
In other words, if engaging in homosexual sex is OK because the propensity is genetically predetermined then we MUST revoke drunk driving laws because alcoholism is also genetically predetermined.
A rambling way to say simply that whatever the URGING we have to do things that are inappropriate, the behavior is STILL inappropriate.
10 posted on 02/07/2008 6:13:27 AM PST by KenD
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To: MrB

Thank you for posting that information!!!


11 posted on 02/07/2008 6:17:09 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer
It is a behavior, a learned behavior................p>
12 posted on 02/07/2008 6:18:57 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: KenD

If homosexuality can be genetically predetermined what will the gay advocates stance then be on abortion?


13 posted on 02/07/2008 6:21:51 AM PST by jimmyo57
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To: NYer

We don’t even teach this garbage in Socialist Sweden. Sure, they’ll have some embarrased home-ec teacher showing us how to put on a condom when we’re in 11th or 12th grade (accompanied by much snickering and giggling) along with a “this is how babies are made” lecture by a stuttering biology teacher.

Of course, there is the obvious “there is nothing wrong with beeing homosexual” teaching which I think most people have no problem agreeing to, but it’s not as intrusive and “preaching” (for lack of better word) that I get the impression it is in US public schools. For an observer, it seems that public schools in the US tries to recruit kids to become gays, rather than trying to teach kids to be tolerant and understanding towards eachother.


14 posted on 02/07/2008 6:29:29 AM PST by SwedishConservative
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To: NYer
In fact, not one U.S. court presented with the issue has found homosexuality to be an innate characteristic.

And the courts' expertise in this area is ...???

We're all in the Twilight Zone now.

15 posted on 02/07/2008 6:31:43 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Political zombies need brains, but they hunger only for taxes." ~ NicknamedBob)
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To: NYer

Is this judge nuts or what? Why don’t the parents just yank their kids out and yank him off the bench.


16 posted on 02/07/2008 6:39:24 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: NYer

>That sexual orientation is innate, namely, homosexuals are ‘born that way,’ is a theory that has been rejected by courts in several states including Maryland. Maryland’s highest appellate court issued an opinion in a 2007 civil union case, holding that the proposition that homosexuality is innate is not supported by credible evidence

That statement is not accurate. The court found that the theory of an immutable characteristic is not generally accepted:

* In the absence of some generally accepted scientific conclusion identifying homosexuality as an immutable characteristic

* We note only that there does not appear to be a consensus yet among “experts” as to the origin of an individual’s sexual orientation.

So right now, it’s a theory.


17 posted on 02/07/2008 6:41:27 AM PST by tortdog
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To: NYer
If schools want to do this, the state's should at least come together and say that such a school is now a private school no longer funded by public money or public property taxes. Curriculums such as these are SO FAR away from teaching just the basics: Reading, Writing, Math, Science and History. Where does it say that Education Institutions have the right to teach any social topic that THEY deem appropriate?

Anal sex to 8th graders? My kid would be out of that school system the day after this curriculum was approved.
18 posted on 02/07/2008 6:57:23 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Ownership, Individuality, Freedom, Responsibility - The Backbone of Conservatism)
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To: SwedishConservative

Sex Positive teaching is a global agenda. It has been for over 50 years.

Kinsey, Reich, and the feminists push to end all moral judgements over sexual pairings regardless of the sex, age, relation, marital status, number or species of partner(s). They see sex as a birthright and that everyone at every age should be sexually active.

Abstinence from heterosexual activity like abstinence from acting on homosexual desires is considered “unhealthy” because it is a supression of sexual desires.

There is as much of this going on in Europe as there is in America. American conservatives are called “puritanical” by Europeans. I’m not casting you in the same category, I was just wondering what term they use to brand those who still believe in morals in Europe?

The Sex Positive Agenda has been institutionalized which means that we fund it with our tax dollars even when we politically oppose it. The shadow government pushes the agenda from within health care and education institutions even when the political leadership hems and haws about the effectiveness of teaching “abstinence only”.

When homosexuality was legalized in every state in America, it was accomplished through the courts, not the legislature. When abortion was legalized in every state in America, it was accomplished through the courts, not the legislature. When slavery was abolished it required a constitutional amendment.


19 posted on 02/07/2008 7:06:00 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Kerretarded
They taught fisting in Massachusetts.
20 posted on 02/07/2008 7:06:55 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: NYer
as well as that homosexuality is inborn, even though in 2007 Maryland’s highest appellate court ruled there is no scientific basis for such a conclusion.

The controversial new curriculum was adopted as a result of pressure by homosexual advocacy groups.

What if it was discovered to be an inborn characteristic?

What if it could be tested for before birth? Would it necessarily be celebrated by parents, with relatives buying little pink outfits for the new gay baby? Or would it be treated like people treat Down's syndrome (a truly inborn characteristic), where they have the legal option to abort and try again?

Imagine how quickly the homosexual lobby would switch to pro-life if abortion was seen as an option to ensure heterosexual children. Or would they become like feminists who are pro-abortion except when dealing with sex selection abortion - it is a woman's choice what happens to her body except when that choice is to choose only a boy.

Perhaps it would be something like spina bifida - treatable after birth, and perhaps preventable before birth through the use of vitamins and proper nutrition.

The homosexual lobby dances a fine line between inborn characteristic and lifestyle choice. If either one is found to be absolutely true, then treatment options becomes the next discussion point - one they don't want available.

21 posted on 02/07/2008 7:13:49 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: NYer

Thanks very much for posting. BTTT!


22 posted on 02/07/2008 7:21:50 AM PST by PGalt
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To: KenD
In other words, if engaging in homosexual sex is OK because the propensity is genetically predetermined then we MUST revoke drunk driving laws because alcoholism is also genetically predetermined.

Not only that, WE SHOULD PROMOTE ALCOHOLISM, BEASTIALITY, and DRUG ADDICTION (oh wait, we as a society already do that) and we shall edit the curriculum to include "how to engage in alcoholism, beastiality, and drug addition properly".

From this moment forward, Maryland should suspend ALL actions on the War on Drugs.

I totally agree with you. Accepting the possibility that one may be born a homosexual is a FAR cry from the necessity of teaching, IN TAXPAYER FUNDED SCHOOLS, the proper ways to have anal sex.
23 posted on 02/07/2008 7:30:06 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Ownership, Individuality, Freedom, Responsibility - The Backbone of Conservatism)
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To: jimmyo57
If homosexuality can be genetically predetermined what will the gay advocates stance then be on abortion?

They were all hot to find a "gay gene" not that long ago, and then it apparently occurred to somebody that if there were such a thing, it could be found by amniocentesis, like Down's syndrome, for instance. And just as a diagnosis of Down's syndrome is often followed by an abortion, whaddaya think would happen with the "gay gene"? (After all, most parents are straight by biological necessity.)

Btw, couples sometimes refuse amniocentesis as a statement that they intend to keep the child no matter what its medical status.

When our little ones were "in the oven", people would ask us "What are you hoping for, a boy or a girl?", and we would answer "Either one."

And they would say, "Oh, so you don't care which, just as long as it's healthy!"

To which I would answer, "No, just as long as it's human."

I got a lot of strange looks, but I think the point was taken.

24 posted on 02/07/2008 7:32:05 AM PST by thulldud (Insanity: Electing John McCain again and expecting a different result.)
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To: wintertime

ping


25 posted on 02/07/2008 7:35:53 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: KenD
Well said, KenD. This is worth a repeat.

"I suppose I've never questioned that the propensity to BE homosexual may in some cases be genetically determined. BUT by that same argument, the propensity to be an alcoholic may also be a genetic predisposition. HOWEVER in NEITHER case should society condone the expression of either predisposition. In other words, if engaging in homosexual sex is OK because the propensity is genetically predetermined then we MUST revoke drunk driving laws because alcoholism is also genetically predetermined." A rambling way to say simply that whatever the URGING we have to do things that are inappropriate, the behavior is STILL inappropriate.

26 posted on 02/07/2008 7:48:45 AM PST by Irish Queen (Nevada Gal)
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To: weegee

Where I come from, when we speak of “puritans”, we refer to people who believe that sexual abstinence before marriage is an absolute AND who insists on forcing that view on everyone else around them.

While the Swedish stereotype may be of a wildly promiscous bunch of heathens, it’s not very accurate. A girl who’s slept around a lot is still considered a “slut” and not very desirable and a guy who’s been with many girls is still considered “untrustworthy”. While we may be more “liberal” towards sex, we’re still predominantly monogoamous and sex occurs mostly within commited relationships. While it’s socially accepted that 16-17 year olds engage in sex, it’s also encouraged that it should happen within a relationship and that parents should be aware of and approve of it.

To expand on my original point, we tend to leave to issue of sexual morals up to the families and less to state-controlled indotrination. Sure, the schools gives us some guidance on how to use contraceptives and the meanings and risks with STDs and pregnancy. The teaching that abstinence is “unhealthy”, however, is not anything I’ve encountered, either by myself or heard from any of my siblings or friends of mine that are parents. And we dont shun people who made a choice to wait with sex. A 25-year old virgin by choice is a lot more accepted than a 17-year old who’s had 5 different partners already.

When we look at the US, we see a very polarized debate, with absolutists on both ends beeing very vocal. This is probably what’s spawned the general view that the US is “puritanical”, as you put it.


27 posted on 02/07/2008 7:51:08 AM PST by SwedishConservative
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

No wonder these teacher can’t keep their hands off our children.


28 posted on 02/07/2008 7:52:55 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: NYer

Three words to give your ping list.......HATCH AMENDMENT LETTER. (print it off, give a copy to the school, YOU are now the one to call ‘the shots’)


29 posted on 02/07/2008 8:07:34 AM PST by mommadooo3 (Old concept in justice. If the law won't take care of it, it's just us.)
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To: SwedishConservative
When we look at the US, we see a very polarized debate, with absolutists on both ends beeing very vocal. This is probably what’s spawned the general view that the US is “puritanical”, as you put it.

Think of it this way, we on one end of the debate had to get vocal because those on the other end of the debate want to force an agenda on ALL of our children. An agenda that will "end all moral judgements over sexual pairings regardless of the sex, age, relation, marital status, number or species of partner(s). They see sex as a birthright and that everyone at every age should be sexually active." As said in Post #19.

Activists in this country are hell-bent in going through the courts to change the social aspects of this country because they cannot get their agenda passed through legislation.
30 posted on 02/07/2008 8:10:11 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Ownership, Individuality, Freedom, Responsibility - The Backbone of Conservatism)
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To: weegee
They taught fisting in Massachusetts.

That's awful.
31 posted on 02/07/2008 8:11:38 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Ownership, Individuality, Freedom, Responsibility - The Backbone of Conservatism)
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To: NYer

Apparently, this is not this judge’s first adventure in the brave new world of dumping moral traditions, as in this case where he made sure that Tommy has two daddies:

Karl Hedberg got custody of his son in 2002 in a divorce in Alexandria, Virginia. But the judge conditioned it on his same sex partner moving out.

The couple sold their house in Virginia and moved to separate apartments in Maryland, a state that is considered to be more gay friendly than the Commonwealth of Virginia.

In 2004 Virginia was no longer the state with continuing exclusive jurisdiction because both parents and the child no longer lived there. Hedberg petitioned the Maryland Court to modify his Virginia custody order because of changed circumstances. The judge denied his request. But the Maryland Court of Special Appeals overturned that decision.

Hedberg was able to present evidence that a one parent home was not in the best interests of his son, now 12 years old, and Judge William J. Rowan III of the Montgomery County Circuit Court agreed. On Monday, he removed the ban from the custody order.


32 posted on 02/07/2008 8:22:05 AM PST by JewishRighter (Why, oh Why can't it be Hunter???)
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To: NYer
Well, I'm learning a lot here, but these kids seem too young. What ever happened to math class?

I'm typing this with a blush, but I didn't know people used condoms during oral sex. I guess I'm old fashioned.

33 posted on 02/07/2008 8:25:25 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: Irish Queen

You nail it.


34 posted on 02/07/2008 8:34:08 AM PST by tortdog
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To: purpleraine

Yeah, you could just chew some latex surgical gloves as a substitute for chewing gum.

(RETCH)


35 posted on 02/07/2008 8:40:08 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Political zombies need brains, but they hunger only for taxes." ~ NicknamedBob)
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To: Tax-chick
I was thinking about the gloves I use in the kitchen when I wash dishes. Guess I'll switch to lemon flavor.

Points out another advantage of sticking with a man rather than shopping around on a regular basis.

36 posted on 02/07/2008 8:42:31 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine

We keep latex gloves around to wear when we’re chopping hot peppers.

It’s funny that the most fervid advocates of no-holds-barred promiscuity just make it seem more and more disgusting. Perhaps this “instruction” will backfire when the students get to see the details of homosexual “love.”


37 posted on 02/07/2008 8:47:24 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Political zombies need brains, but they hunger only for taxes." ~ NicknamedBob)
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To: Tax-chick

indeed, or just multiple partners


38 posted on 02/07/2008 8:49:50 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine
I guess I'm old fashioned.

It's a big club. Welcome! I have rolled out the red carpet for you. Some of us are more like dinosaurs. Like you, I had no idea either :-]

39 posted on 02/07/2008 8:57:40 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: jimmyo57

There was a Law and Order episode on just that. They wanted an injunction from a Judge to stop an Abortion that was believed to be sought out of genetic disposition that the baby would be Gay. They used the term “Gay Genocide”.


40 posted on 02/07/2008 9:14:04 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: NYer

The judge is mentally ill - with Liberalism.

As to the nature of Homosexuality, I think in some cases in is inborn and in other cases it is societal or cultural.


41 posted on 02/07/2008 9:31:24 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Kerretarded

It’s good practice for being a taxpayer.


42 posted on 02/07/2008 9:41:23 AM PST by steve8714 (Don't sacrifice the important for the urgent.)
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To: tortdog

Still, if it’s genetically determined, how are those genes passed on to the next generation?

It would have died off after the first generation - a LONG time ago...


43 posted on 02/07/2008 10:16:06 AM PST by Paisan
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To: Paisan

That is a flawed argument. It assumes that people who have homosexual desires never engage in heterosexual relations. It further assumes that genetic determination cannot be caused by abnormalities in genes.


44 posted on 02/07/2008 10:27:49 AM PST by tortdog
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