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A Credit Card You Want to Toss
Business week ^ | 2/7/08 | Robert Berner

Posted on 02/07/2008 3:56:07 PM PST by bjs1779

Bank of America abruptly notified cardholders in good standing their rates would skyrocket if they didn't opt out fast. Is BofA greedy or needy?

Credit-card issuers have drawn fire for jacking up interest rates on cardholders who aren't behind on payments, but whose credit score has fallen for another reason. Now, some consumers complain, Bank of America (BAC) is hiking rates based on no apparent deterioration in their credit scores at all.

The major credit-card lender in mid-January sent letters notifying some responsible cardholders that it would more than double their rates to as high as 28%, without giving an explanation for the increase, according to copies of five letters obtained by BusinessWeek. Fine print at the end of the letter—headed "Important Amendment to Your Credit Card Agreement"—advised calling an 800-number for the reason, but consumers who called say they were unable to get a clear answer. "No one could give me an explanation," says Eric Fresch, a Huron (Ohio) engineer who is on time with his Bank of America card payments and knows of no decline in the status of his overall credit.

Bank of America spokeswoman Betty Riess confirms some bank cardholders could be receiving rate increases for reasons other than declines in credit scores, such as running higher balances with their Bank of America cards or with other creditors. She says the increases are part of a "periodic review" that assesses customers' credit risk. She declined to say if the Charlotte (N.C.) bank had changed its credit standards thereby bumping some consumers' rates or how many cardholders were being affected by the review. Bank of America has 40 million U.S. credit-card accounts.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessweek.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bankcards; creditcards
Crooked is as crooked does.


1 posted on 02/07/2008 3:56:09 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

Welcome to the world of debt, people.


2 posted on 02/07/2008 3:57:10 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: bjs1779

Its like no one even cares what interest rates the Fed sets anymore. The fed is so out of touch with the financial markets that the banks are walking in the opposite direction without a second thought. Sometimes, interest rates just have to go up I guess.


3 posted on 02/07/2008 3:57:54 PM PST by underground
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To: bjs1779

Too many amigos ran for the border ehh?


4 posted on 02/07/2008 3:58:07 PM PST by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: bjs1779

Credit card companies have a word for people who spend within their means and pay their bills on time, and that word is “deadbeats”. They make a lot more money on the idiot who is in over his head and carries a balance every month.


5 posted on 02/07/2008 3:58:26 PM PST by gridlock (A proud McCain supporter since February 7, 2008)
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To: bjs1779

That’s why I don’t carry a balance on mine.


6 posted on 02/07/2008 3:58:55 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one recipe at a time http://www.youtube.com/Tamar1973)
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To: bjs1779

Capital One did this 6 months ago. I had two cards. The one with a Limit of 3,000 I paid off. The one with a Limit of 30,000 they sent me a letter saying it was a mistake and the same terms apply.


7 posted on 02/07/2008 3:59:22 PM PST by rocksblues (Polls are just a Liberal way to upset Conservatives!)
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To: bjs1779

B of A just posted their worst quarterly profit in six years. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.


8 posted on 02/07/2008 3:59:57 PM PST by squidly
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To: gridlock

That said, there is absolutely no reason any credit card company should lose money servicing a client, just because he is paying on time and not paying interest. It is a voluntary contract, and it is proper that it may be terminated by either side.


9 posted on 02/07/2008 4:00:02 PM PST by gridlock (A proud McCain supporter since February 7, 2008)
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To: bjs1779

Geez! This was an old tactic of Fleet Bank, bought by BofA a few years ago.

Fleet was responsible for putting more New England companies out of business, than all other banks combined.

How do you sit down with your banker and demurely say “FU”!


10 posted on 02/07/2008 4:04:21 PM PST by aShepard (Who took those pictures, and who let them get into the hands of the MSM? Disgusting!)
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To: AppyPappy
BoA’s action doesn’t surprise me. Those two NC banks - Wachovia and BoA - are the two worst banks in the country.
11 posted on 02/07/2008 4:04:42 PM PST by quadrant
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To: rocksblues

Capital One did the same to me last year because I am a “deadbeat” as a previous poster described (pay my balance off every month). Guess whose card I no longer use? My credit union now gets the benefit of whatever finance charges I do end up paying.


12 posted on 02/07/2008 4:05:15 PM PST by Cecily
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To: gridlock
deadbeats

Hey! I resemble that! When Discover jacked their rates over a year ago, I started running a zero balance. I buy the stuff I normally would, pay in full, and they owe me money. (8^D).

13 posted on 02/07/2008 4:06:13 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: underground

“The fed is so out of touch with the financial markets that the banks are walking in the opposite direction without a second thought.”

I think its just a way they see to recoup some of the money they lost on mortgages. They also realize that nobody can get out of the debt since its nearly impossible to write it off even thru bankruptcy.


14 posted on 02/07/2008 4:08:16 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: squidly
B of A just posted their worst quarterly profit in six years. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.

Absolutely correct!

15 posted on 02/07/2008 4:08:40 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

Was B.O.A. the issuer which pioneered credit cards for illegals?


16 posted on 02/07/2008 4:09:18 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: aShepard

>>>How do you sit down with your banker and demurely say “FU”!

It’s really quite easy. Just do it.


17 posted on 02/07/2008 4:12:25 PM PST by Keith in Iowa ( <<<Say NO! to Juan McAmnesty!>>>!!! <<<Life's a bitch, don't elect one President.>>>)
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To: underground

No, this is a case of the credit card companies having us by the short ‘n curlies.

The Fed is now trying to loan money at a rate below that of inflation. That is a situation where ANY FOOL could make money by borrowing and investing. This is not a liquidity crunch, it’s a credit crunch. No one trusts anyone any more so it doesn’t matter how cheap the money is, people aren’t lending.


18 posted on 02/07/2008 4:12:36 PM PST by DivaDelMar (CRAm member-- (Conservative Republicans Against mcCain) Think you're entitled to my vote? CRAm It!!!)
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To: Graybeard58
Was B.O.A. the issuer which pioneered credit cards for illegals?

According to news reports, you are right. Now we pay for it!

Bank of America's New Credit Card Targets Illegal Immigrants,

19 posted on 02/07/2008 4:17:24 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: aShepard
How do you sit down with your banker and demurely say “FU”!

Filing bankruptcy usually works.

20 posted on 02/07/2008 4:17:54 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Graybeard58

yep, Bank of Amigos.


21 posted on 02/07/2008 4:19:59 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Hey! I resemble that! When Discover jacked their rates over a year ago, I started running a zero balance. I buy the stuff I normally would, pay in full, and they owe me money.

I did not like the rate Discover offered me so I don't use it. I do pay them $2.00 a month to run a credit balance. This way they have to send me a check every once in a while to refund the balance.

22 posted on 02/07/2008 4:21:40 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Moonman62

“Filing bankruptcy usually works.”

Don’t forget about the changes to bankruptcy laws the banks pushed thru a very short time ago. Gee I wonder if they saw this stuff coming?


23 posted on 02/07/2008 4:23:42 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: All
The Fed is lowering interest rates, what gives? /sarc
24 posted on 02/07/2008 4:25:35 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: driftdiver
Don’t forget about the changes to bankruptcy laws the banks pushed thru a very short time ago. Gee I wonder if they saw this stuff coming?

I'm sure they didn't. : )

25 posted on 02/07/2008 4:26:34 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: driftdiver

Statistics show the filing rates are about the same. If someone makes less than the median income for their state they can still file chapter 7. I’ve even heard of some people quiting their jobs so they can do that. Otherwise I’m sure the credit card companies send W a Christmas card every year.


26 posted on 02/07/2008 4:30:36 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Mark was here

Oh I use it. I buy things I would normally buy, bank the money, and then pay it off in full every month. In the meantime, they owe me about $200.00 in cash-back money. It probably torques someone there, but I’m getting my old interest back from when they jacked the rate and a 30 day float to boot.


27 posted on 02/07/2008 4:48:01 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: AppyPappy

Pay cash, or do without. Layaway is an acceptable alternative. I don’t know why people think they need so much fancy stuff anyhow.


28 posted on 02/07/2008 5:10:52 PM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: Graybeard58

Yes.


29 posted on 02/07/2008 5:18:32 PM PST by liege
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To: bjs1779

I just received that letter on Monday this week. I have until February 14th to mail them a letter saying I decline the increase at which time my account will be closed.

I used this card for business expenses.

I just did a home equity loan (I have 100% equity) at 6.125% which I will use to pay off the BOA card, my wife’s MBNA (now BOA) card and do some home improvements.

I will, of course, close ALL BOA accounts. I closed Cap 1 about 2 months ago. Only card we have now is a Citi card at 11.5% fixed, and a Discover card at 12.2% fixed - neither has a balance.

Never again will I accept card offers with variable rates.


30 posted on 02/07/2008 5:18:53 PM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: driftdiver
"nearly impossible to write it off even thru bankruptcy." - definitely not true - even under the new bankruptcy rules!
31 posted on 02/07/2008 5:19:49 PM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (I'd rather be single than wish I was.)
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To: msrngtp2002

Only card we have now is a Citi card at 11.5% fixed, and a Discover card at 12.2% fixed - neither has a balance.
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Those rates are only “fixed” until they decide to jack them ... and jack them they will when they see that you are

A.) using a portion of your HELOC
B.) your available credit line has decreased due to closing the CAP1 account 2 months back.
C.) your closing of the BOA/MBNA card accounts

I suggest dealing with a local bank or (preferably) Credit Union ONLY and getting to know the local branch manager.


32 posted on 02/07/2008 6:49:08 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: msrngtp2002

If your FICO score goes down...If your debt increases, Yes, your rates will go up. All financial inst. follow the same formula. Keep your debt low. FYI..my debt is low and so are my rates. Should MY rates go up to compensate someone with high debt?


33 posted on 02/07/2008 6:58:23 PM PST by maineman (BC Eagle fan)
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To: msrngtp2002

Fixed isn’t really fixed. Variable rates generally are ‘flat rates’ and go up and down due to the prime rate (down now as the fed is lowering). Getting rate jacked can happen on a ‘fixed’ again or a ‘variable’ rate account just as easily as the other.


34 posted on 02/07/2008 7:21:38 PM PST by rb22982
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To: maineman
"Should MY rates go up to compensate someone with high debt?"

But of course!

Should they go from 6% to 28%, perhaps not, but in order for BAC to buy (bailout) Country Wide and be profitable, they must find more profit centers.

Where? You might ask. Well from you, who is responsible and liquid.

Go ahead pay them off...go elsewhere...same situation at the other large banks.

Plus if you pay them off, that helps them because if reduces their capitalization requirements and allows them to loan more to folks who will pay more for money.

Raising your rates is a win only situation for BAC.

35 posted on 02/07/2008 7:43:58 PM PST by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: Positive
Raising your rates is a win only situation for BAC.You

Only problem with this theory is if the rate jacking causes the said person to decide they really don't want to pay 29% interest and defaults leaving more defaults at BOA's door. They also have 1 less "Prime" customer if you do transfer it which makes their books look worse.

36 posted on 02/09/2008 10:09:39 AM PST by rb22982
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To: bjs1779

Pay off the full balance every month, and you never have to worry about your interest rate going up.


37 posted on 02/09/2008 10:12:17 AM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: dfwgator

Great advice, but not really feasible for people already with large amounts of cc debt.


38 posted on 02/09/2008 10:15:53 AM PST by rb22982
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To: bjs1779
I quit using credit cards. Chopped them all up. Debit or cash only.

Guess you can say I'm on the Dave Ramsey Diet.

39 posted on 02/09/2008 10:24:39 AM PST by chemicalman (Re-draft Thompson '08)
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To: bjs1779; BraveMan; FBD
"Bank of America has 40 million U.S. credit-card accounts."

Hmmmmmm let's see, $1.00 per sucker per month times 12 months = $480,000,000 *extra* above *&* beyond the regular juice is collected.

Nice work if ya can get it, good job MBAs.

An excellent example of life in America, today.
Fabulous riches beyond imagination await those who can gather in the hordes.

...of ignorant.

40 posted on 02/09/2008 10:34:51 AM PST by Landru (~& when the band you're in starts playing *different * tunes...)
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To: bjs1779
Step one:

Headline: NEW YORK — Bank of America Corp. has begun offering credit cards to customers without Social Security numbers, typically illegal immigrants . . . .

Step two:

Headline: Illegal immigrants in Arizona [and other states], frustrated with a flagging economy and tough new legislation cracking down on their employers, are returning to their home country . . . . (leaving behind BoA credit card and other debts?)

Step three?

Headline: Bank of America raises INTEREST RATES on MILLIONS of their CARDHOLDERS! . . . .

41 posted on 02/09/2008 1:51:56 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Landru

quite a scam, huh?


42 posted on 02/09/2008 8:45:47 PM PST by FBD ("I am sure that Senator Clinton would make a good president," ~ John McCain on NBC's "Meet the Press)
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To: hedgetrimmer; nicmarlo; mysterio

Profit ping


43 posted on 02/10/2008 6:57:07 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: bjs1779

I bet they are front and center at all the colleges this fall, trolling to open cards for incoming skulls full of mush.

Usury is a crime.


44 posted on 02/10/2008 7:56:52 AM PST by Darnright
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