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Muslim Group (CAIR) Says Air Force Academy Speakers Use Hate Speech
North County Times/The Californian ^ | Wednesday, February 6, 2008 | IVAN MORENO

Posted on 02/07/2008 6:38:11 PM PST by DogByte6RER

Muslim group says Air Force Academy speakers use hate speech

By: IVAN MORENO - Associated Press

DENVER -- A Muslim advocacy group is decrying the U.S. Air Force Academy's decision to invite three former "terrorists" who the group said slam the religion with "hate-filled" rhetoric.

The D.C.-based Council on American-Islamic Relations said one of the speakers, Walid Shoebat, has said that "Islam is the devil."

Shoebat, along with Kamal Saleem and Zachariah Anani are scheduled to speak Wednesday at the 50th Annual Academy Assembly in Colorado Springs, where the topic of the four-day event is "Dismantling Terrorism."

Maj. Brett Ashworth, an Air Force Academy spokesman, said the purpose of the event is "to educate future officers and delegates from 50 colleges on the ideology and methodology of terrorists."

Ashworth said the men are former terrorists and provide valuable insight to the discussion.

But Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for CAIR, said in speaking about terrorism the men also denounce the Muslim faith.

"Islam is the devil? I mean c'mon!" Hooper said. "And these people are going to talk as experts to cadets who may possibly serve in parts of the Muslim world?"

A message left with the academy seeking to interview the three speakers was not immediately returned. E-mails to Shoebat and Saleem were not immediately answered.

Hooper said the three speakers trigger protests to their speaking engagements throughout the country. He said he told Air Force academy officials that inviting the men to speak about terrorism would be like "inviting David Duke to speak about race relations."

He said CAIR offered to connect the Air Force with Muslims in Colorado who could also speak at the event to balance the discussion. However, he said he was told the topic was terrorism, not religion.

"The academy assembly has nothing to do with religion or evangelical Christianity for that matter," Ashworth said. "This is not going to be a discussion on Islam. It's a discussion on terrorism."

Religion has been a sensitive topic at the Air Force Academy in the past. A group of cadet graduates had claimed the academy violated their rights, saying evangelical Christian values were forced onto them. They filed a lawsuit, which was dismissed in 2006 after a judge said they couldn't claim their rights were violated because they no longer attended the academy.

An Air Force task force also concluded there was no religious discrimination at the Academy but noted some cadets and staff were insensitive. In February 2006, the Air Force adopted new guidelines cautioning top officers about promoting their religious views.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Colorado; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; cair; dhimmitude; exmuslims; islam; islamofascism; mccain; muhammadsminions; multicult; muslimbrotherhood; muslims; pc; religionofpeace; rop; shoebat; terrorism; terrorist; theenemywithin; usaf; usafa; walid; walidshoebat; wot
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CAIR...

I certainly do hope that this fifth column group of Islamofascist pigs has been heavily infiltrated by undercover FBI agents.

The FBI needs to dust off its old play books from the 1950s and 1960s and go full COINTELPRO on CAIR's a$$...

1 posted on 02/07/2008 6:38:16 PM PST by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER
"This is not going to be a discussion on Islam. It's a discussion on terrorism."

hmmm. unacknowledged-elephant-in-the-room alert.

2 posted on 02/07/2008 6:40:30 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (beaurocracy harbors malice)
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To: DogByte6RER
“A Muslim advocacy group is decrying the U.S. Air Force Academy’s decision to invite three former “terrorists” who the group said slam the religion with “hate-filled” rhetoric.”

In response they offered to provide 3 current terrorists to tell us what a wonderful thing the “religion of peace” is.

3 posted on 02/07/2008 6:40:37 PM PST by Moral Hazard (John McCain is the worst Republican candidate, except for the other two)
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To: DogByte6RER

I agree. Islam is the devil. Call a spade “a spade”.


4 posted on 02/07/2008 6:46:39 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: DogByte6RER

I don’t CAIR what CAIR has to say.


5 posted on 02/07/2008 6:46:45 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: DogByte6RER
Ashworth said. "This is not going to be a discussion on Islam. It's a discussion on terrorism."

Same thing.

And CAIR knows it, that's why they are objecting.

Kind of revealed their hand, didn't they?

6 posted on 02/07/2008 6:47:30 PM PST by Wil H
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To: the invisib1e hand

See even CAIR knows one goes hand in hand with the other.


7 posted on 02/07/2008 6:48:10 PM PST by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: bstein80; eric_odessit

ping


8 posted on 02/07/2008 6:48:35 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

I recommend that the Air Force take this matter up with the Deputy SecDef. Uhm, on second thought maybe not...


9 posted on 02/07/2008 6:50:16 PM PST by TADSLOS (Estoy Juan McCain y apruebo este mensaje!)
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To: DogByte6RER

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10 posted on 02/07/2008 6:53:24 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: DogByte6RER

But saying “Kill the infidel” is apparently not hate speech.....


11 posted on 02/07/2008 6:53:31 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Currently learning Farsi so someday you won't have to)
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To: DogByte6RER

But saying “Kill the infidel” is apparently not hate speech.....


12 posted on 02/07/2008 6:53:59 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Currently learning Farsi so someday you won't have to)
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To: DogByte6RER

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13 posted on 02/07/2008 6:54:19 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Great cartoon.


14 posted on 02/07/2008 6:54:48 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Currently learning Farsi so someday you won't have to)
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To: DogByte6RER
CAIR offered to connect the Air Force with Muslims in Colorado who could also blow themselves up at the event to balance the discussion.

Fixed it.

15 posted on 02/07/2008 6:56:33 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: G8 Diplomat; forkinsocket; Fred Nerks; Candor7; Chgogal; Marine_Uncle; LucyT
Walid Shoebat-Ex-Islamist Speaks against Islam

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16 posted on 02/07/2008 7:00:51 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Beckwith

http://www.shoebat.com/


17 posted on 02/07/2008 7:01:39 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: DogByte6RER
"This is not going to be a discussion on Islam. It's a discussion on terrorism."

You say puh-tey-toh
I say puh-ta-toh

18 posted on 02/07/2008 7:03:45 PM PST by tx_eggman ("they want to be judged on their intentions, not their results" - libtards official motto)
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To: DogByte6RER

http://kamalsaleem.org/


19 posted on 02/07/2008 7:06:02 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: DogByte6RER

http://kamalsaleem.org/


20 posted on 02/07/2008 7:06:39 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Marine_Uncle

http://www.3xterrorists.com/zachariahbio.php


21 posted on 02/07/2008 7:08:06 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: DogByte6RER
CAIR

They are still here, why? Ok, maybe they're not terrorist loving, supporting, Islamists that I thought they were. No problem.

Then again, CAIR, if we are attacked again I, nor most of us, can guarantee your security. Be advised.

5.56mm

22 posted on 02/07/2008 7:11:50 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: DogByte6RER
No, Mr. Hooper, they misspoke: Islam is not the devil. Islam is from the devil, and the Koran is the most demonic thing ever written. There, fixed that misunderstanding.
23 posted on 02/07/2008 7:15:51 PM PST by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: DogByte6RER
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24 posted on 02/07/2008 7:17:03 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper
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To: DogByte6RER

Qur’an:47:4 “When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam.”

I’m offended that their religion wants me / us dead. Maybe I can get the ACLU to help us kick them out of our country becuase THEY preach “hatred”?


25 posted on 02/07/2008 7:18:04 PM PST by rbosque ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: DogByte6RER

They need someone to talk to them. My nephew is marrying a woman whose sister attended the academy and married someone in the Pakistani Air Force that is a Muslim. The girl’s mother is an Episcopalian ordained minister. Crazy world.


26 posted on 02/07/2008 7:18:42 PM PST by pops88 (geek chick over 40)
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To: DogByte6RER

HUAC needs to be reconvened, but then half the Congress would be under a pall..


27 posted on 02/07/2008 7:27:23 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: DogByte6RER
Here's one of the speakers, our dear friend from crazy land. What an a$$hole....

His mouth is almost as big as HRC's but he's prettier.


28 posted on 02/07/2008 7:57:29 PM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: DogByte6RER

One more muzzie attack in America and “hate speech” will be the least of cair’s problems.


29 posted on 02/07/2008 7:59:22 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: DogByte6RER

> Ashworth said. “This is not going to be a discussion on Islam. It’s a discussion on terrorism.”
A year ago, an airplane was hijacked in Turkey, when the Turkish officials retook the plane, the very first thing the terrorists said was, “We’re muslims”.
To me this says that out of their own mouths, Terrorists=Muslims.


30 posted on 02/07/2008 8:04:09 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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To: All

Tell C.A.I.R how you really feel

http://www.cair.com/Contact.aspx


31 posted on 02/07/2008 8:05:43 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: rbosque
William Eaton, US Consul to Tunis, wrote in 1799: "Considered as a nation, they are deplorably wretched, because they have no property in the soil to inspire an ambition to cultivate it. They are abject slaves to the despotism of their government, and they are humiliated by tyranny, the worst of all tyrannies, the despotism of priestcraft. They live in more solemn fear of the frowns of a bigot who has been dead and rotten above a thousand years, than of the living despot whose frown would cost them their lives…The ignorance, superstitious tradition and civil and religious tyranny, which depress the human mind here, exclude improvement of every kind" Hasn't change much since then. Just a dead religion.
32 posted on 02/07/2008 8:11:10 PM PST by DakoKid
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To: DogByte6RER
For once I agree with Hooper: "Islam is the devil? I mean c'mon!" Hooper said.

Islam isn't the devil; Allah is [Satan] the devil, and Islam is his [Satan's] religion, and MadMo is his prophet.

Have to keep these things straight, or we can't discuss them rationally. ;')

33 posted on 02/07/2008 8:13:36 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: george76

Everyone needs to hear this guy.


34 posted on 02/07/2008 8:13:40 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Currently learning Farsi so someday you won't have to)
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To: sheik yerbouty

If HUAC or a decently led House Internal Security Committee were in operation (wiped out by the Democratic Caucus in secret in 1975), then much of the Democrat Party leadership would have to be questioned about their support for, affiliation with, or membership in the Communist Party USA and its fronts (NLG, NLG-created CCR, NECLC, KGB fronts (World Peace Council - including Sen. Levin and Rep. John Conyers; Gensuiken;); Workers World Party and its fronts IAC, ANSWER, etc; the old Socialist Workers Party and its youth arm, Young Socialist Alliance, and its fronts, CODEL, PRDF (loaded with congressmen/women), WONAAC, SMC, etc); the Revolutionary Communist Party fronts, including VVAW (after 1972), and support groups for the Sandinistas and the FMLN (Madre, NEST, MAES), and the old Hanoi lobby fronts Mobes, PCPJ, NPAC, MAI, Bach Main Hospital Project, etc.

There ain’t enuff time in our lives to hold all these hearings, but there are enough jails to hold these traitors and fools.

Been there, seen it, wrote about it.

PS: Re the three former terrorists, “it takes former terrorists to recognize covert terrorists/supporters” re CAIR.

In Vietnam, the best anti-VC fighters were former VC known as Kit Carson scouts.


35 posted on 02/07/2008 8:14:10 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Madmax, the Grinning Reaper)
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To: 2CAVTrooper
LOL nice. Check out the CAIR bears:


36 posted on 02/07/2008 8:15:10 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Currently learning Farsi so someday you won't have to)
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To: DogByte6RER

CAIR...

Collective Against Individual Rights


37 posted on 02/07/2008 8:23:16 PM PST by PGalt
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To: DogByte6RER

I guess it’s not hate speech when the MOoooslimes call Jews and Christians pigs and dogs.


39 posted on 02/07/2008 8:29:40 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: DogByte6RER
"Islam is the devil? I mean c'mon!" Hooper said.

Sorry Hoop old boy. YOU c'mon.

Islam is Satan spawned and the sooner the world realizes that the better off we'll all be.

41 posted on 02/07/2008 8:32:59 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Bureaucracy is a parasite that preys on Free Thought and suffocates Free Spirit.)
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To: DogByte6RER
"Islam is the devil."

It's good to know who the enemy is.

You brought it CAIR so deal with it, live with it. We have to.

43 posted on 02/07/2008 8:37:53 PM PST by Syncro
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To: DogByte6RER
"Free Speech"

A concept numerous mohammedans have a problem grokking.
44 posted on 02/07/2008 8:40:30 PM PST by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: DogByte6RER

INTREP


45 posted on 02/07/2008 8:43:41 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Morgana

Great Tag Line...


48 posted on 02/07/2008 9:51:31 PM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: Max Friedman

Thanks for that info...


49 posted on 02/07/2008 11:13:07 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: DogByte6RER

Hey cair, stfu.


50 posted on 02/08/2008 4:12:24 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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