Muslim Group (CAIR) Says Air Force Academy Speakers Use Hate Speech

North County Times/The Californian ^ | Wednesday, February 6, 2008 | IVAN MORENO

[DogByte6RER]

Muslim group says Air Force Academy speakers use hate speech

By: IVAN MORENO - Associated Press

DENVER -- A Muslim advocacy group is decrying the U.S. Air Force Academy's decision to invite three former "terrorists" who the group said slam the religion with "hate-filled" rhetoric.

The D.C.-based Council on American-Islamic Relations said one of the speakers, Walid Shoebat, has said that "Islam is the devil."

Shoebat, along with Kamal Saleem and Zachariah Anani are scheduled to speak Wednesday at the 50th Annual Academy Assembly in Colorado Springs, where the topic of the four-day event is "Dismantling Terrorism."

Maj. Brett Ashworth, an Air Force Academy spokesman, said the purpose of the event is "to educate future officers and delegates from 50 colleges on the ideology and methodology of terrorists."

Ashworth said the men are former terrorists and provide valuable insight to the discussion.

But Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for CAIR, said in speaking about terrorism the men also denounce the Muslim faith.

"Islam is the devil? I mean c'mon!" Hooper said. "And these people are going to talk as experts to cadets who may possibly serve in parts of the Muslim world?"

A message left with the academy seeking to interview the three speakers was not immediately returned. E-mails to Shoebat and Saleem were not immediately answered.

Hooper said the three speakers trigger protests to their speaking engagements throughout the country. He said he told Air Force academy officials that inviting the men to speak about terrorism would be like "inviting David Duke to speak about race relations."

He said CAIR offered to connect the Air Force with Muslims in Colorado who could also speak at the event to balance the discussion. However, he said he was told the topic was terrorism, not religion.

"The academy assembly has nothing to do with religion or evangelical Christianity for that matter," Ashworth said. "This is not going to be a discussion on Islam. It's a discussion on terrorism."

Religion has been a sensitive topic at the Air Force Academy in the past. A group of cadet graduates had claimed the academy violated their rights, saying evangelical Christian values were forced onto them. They filed a lawsuit, which was dismissed in 2006 after a judge said they couldn't claim their rights were violated because they no longer attended the academy.

An Air Force task force also concluded there was no religious discrimination at the Academy but noted some cadets and staff were insensitive. In February 2006, the Air Force adopted new guidelines cautioning top officers about promoting their religious views.

[DogByte6RER]

CAIR...

I certainly do hope that this fifth column group of Islamofascist pigs has been heavily infiltrated by undercover FBI agents.

The FBI needs to dust off its old play books from the 1950s and 1960s and go full COINTELPRO on CAIR's a$$...

[the invisib1e hand]

"This is not going to be a discussion on Islam. It's a discussion on terrorism."

hmmm. unacknowledged-elephant-in-the-room alert.

[Moral Hazard]

“A Muslim advocacy group is decrying the U.S. Air Force Academy’s decision to invite three former “terrorists” who the group said slam the religion with “hate-filled” rhetoric.”

In response they offered to provide 3 current terrorists to tell us what a wonderful thing the “religion of peace” is.

[lilylangtree]

I agree. Islam is the devil. Call a spade “a spade”.

[wastedyears]

I don’t CAIR what CAIR has to say.

[Wil H]

Ashworth said. "This is not going to be a discussion on Islam. It's a discussion on terrorism."

Same thing.

And CAIR knows it, that's why they are objecting.

Kind of revealed their hand, didn't they?

[southernerwithanattitude]

See even CAIR knows one goes hand in hand with the other.

[DogByte6RER]

ping

[TADSLOS]

I recommend that the Air Force take this matter up with the Deputy SecDef. Uhm, on second thought maybe not...

[george76]

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[G8 Diplomat]

But saying “Kill the infidel” is apparently not hate speech.....

[G8 Diplomat]

But saying “Kill the infidel” is apparently not hate speech.....

[george76]

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[G8 Diplomat]

Great cartoon.

[17th Miss Regt]

CAIR offered to connect the Air Force with Muslims in Colorado who could also blow themselves up at the event to balance the discussion.

Fixed it.

[george76]

Walid Shoebat-Ex-Islamist Speaks against Islam

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[george76]

http://www.shoebat.com/

[tx_eggman]

"This is not going to be a discussion on Islam. It's a discussion on terrorism."

You say puh-tey-toh
I say puh-ta-toh

[george76]

http://kamalsaleem.org/

[george76]

http://kamalsaleem.org/

[george76]

http://www.3xterrorists.com/zachariahbio.php

[M Kehoe]

CAIR

They are still here, why? Ok, maybe they're not terrorist loving, supporting, Islamists that I thought they were. No problem.

Then again, CAIR, if we are attacked again I, nor most of us, can guarantee your security. Be advised.

5.56mm

[Boagenes]

No, Mr. Hooper, they misspoke: Islam is not the devil. Islam is from the devil, and the Koran is the most demonic thing ever written. There, fixed that misunderstanding.

[2CAVTrooper]

[rbosque]

Qur’an:47:4 “When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam.”

I’m offended that their religion wants me / us dead. Maybe I can get the ACLU to help us kick them out of our country becuase THEY preach “hatred”?

[pops88]

They need someone to talk to them. My nephew is marrying a woman whose sister attended the academy and married someone in the Pakistani Air Force that is a Muslim. The girl’s mother is an Episcopalian ordained minister. Crazy world.

[sheik yerbouty]

HUAC needs to be reconvened, but then half the Congress would be under a pall..

[jws3sticks]

Here's one of the speakers, our dear friend from crazy land. What an a$$hole....

His mouth is almost as big as HRC's but he's prettier.

[kellynla]

One more muzzie attack in America and “hate speech” will be the least of cair’s problems.

[BuffaloJack]

> Ashworth said. “This is not going to be a discussion on Islam. It’s a discussion on terrorism.”
A year ago, an airplane was hijacked in Turkey, when the Turkish officials retook the plane, the very first thing the terrorists said was, “We’re muslims”.
To me this says that out of their own mouths, Terrorists=Muslims.

[kellynla]

Tell C.A.I.R how you really feel

http://www.cair.com/Contact.aspx

[DakoKid]

William Eaton, US Consul to Tunis, wrote in 1799: "Considered as a nation, they are deplorably wretched, because they have no property in the soil to inspire an ambition to cultivate it. They are abject slaves to the despotism of their government, and they are humiliated by tyranny, the worst of all tyrannies, the despotism of priestcraft. They live in more solemn fear of the frowns of a bigot who has been dead and rotten above a thousand years, than of the living despot whose frown would cost them their lives…The ignorance, superstitious tradition and civil and religious tyranny, which depress the human mind here, exclude improvement of every kind" Hasn't change much since then. Just a dead religion.

[ApplegateRanch]

For once I agree with Hooper: "Islam is the devil? I mean c'mon!" Hooper said.

Islam isn't the devil; Allah is [Satan] the devil, and Islam is his [Satan's] religion, and MadMo is his prophet.

Have to keep these things straight, or we can't discuss them rationally. ;')

[G8 Diplomat]

Everyone needs to hear this guy.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

If HUAC or a decently led House Internal Security Committee were in operation (wiped out by the Democratic Caucus in secret in 1975), then much of the Democrat Party leadership would have to be questioned about their support for, affiliation with, or membership in the Communist Party USA and its fronts (NLG, NLG-created CCR, NECLC, KGB fronts (World Peace Council - including Sen. Levin and Rep. John Conyers; Gensuiken;); Workers World Party and its fronts IAC, ANSWER, etc; the old Socialist Workers Party and its youth arm, Young Socialist Alliance, and its fronts, CODEL, PRDF (loaded with congressmen/women), WONAAC, SMC, etc); the Revolutionary Communist Party fronts, including VVAW (after 1972), and support groups for the Sandinistas and the FMLN (Madre, NEST, MAES), and the old Hanoi lobby fronts Mobes, PCPJ, NPAC, MAI, Bach Main Hospital Project, etc.

There ain’t enuff time in our lives to hold all these hearings, but there are enough jails to hold these traitors and fools.

Been there, seen it, wrote about it.

PS: Re the three former terrorists, “it takes former terrorists to recognize covert terrorists/supporters” re CAIR.

In Vietnam, the best anti-VC fighters were former VC known as Kit Carson scouts.

[G8 Diplomat]

LOL nice. Check out the CAIR bears:

[PGalt]

CAIR...

Collective Against Individual Rights

[Morgana]

The ragheads were speaking of hate speech?

[beethovenfan]

I guess it’s not hate speech when the MOoooslimes call Jews and Christians pigs and dogs.

[Morgana]

I wonder who this muzzie is? He is in every picture that they use to make fun if islam! He has become the poster boy for islamic rage!!!

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

"Islam is the devil? I mean c'mon!" Hooper said.

Sorry Hoop old boy. YOU c'mon.

Islam is Satan spawned and the sooner the world realizes that the better off we'll all be.

[Morgana]

someone please tell me why the FBI does not do a Ruby Ridge on CAIR????

[Syncro]

"Islam is the devil."

It's good to know who the enemy is.

You brought it CAIR so deal with it, live with it. We have to.

[Tainan]

"Free Speech"

A concept numerous mohammedans have a problem grokking.

[LiteKeeper]

INTREP

[Morgana]

[Morgana]

“Tell C.A.I.R how you really feel”

http://www.cair.com/Contact.aspx

Yea, I would but I might get charged with a hate crime!!!

[jws3sticks]

Great Tag Line...

[sheik yerbouty]

Thanks for that info...

[Joe Boucher]

Hey cair, stfu.