Posted on 02/07/2008 9:50:25 PM PST by T.L.Sink
Picture a President McCain making his first appeal to Congress. Certainly, it will include something about Iraq and national security and defense. And that will put him at odds with the majority Democrats. And he will likely be facing a Congress with larger majorities of Democrats. McCain wants legislative victories and he will have to turn to those majorities to get them enacted. And he will be happy to do so. Conservatives who have opposed him have cited his positions on a range of issues where he has sided with the Democrats - illegal immigration, campaign finance reform, global warming, legal rights for detainees, etc. When McCain has been on the conservative side he gives it full-throated support. But when he is with the Democrats, he is really with them. McCain isn't someone who simply reaches across the aisle to form coalitions. He walks across the aisle, puts on the other team's uniform and sings the other team's song. Every president wants to accomplish things and this means his agenda will include everything on which he agrees with the Democratic majorities: A cap and trade regime for climate change. Expansion of McCain-Feingold regulations [which violate the First Amendment]. Comprehensive immigration overhaul(amnesty) with a guest worker program and a path to citizenship for the millions of illegals. This will not be a "reaching across the aisle." This will be a full partnership of the president and the Congress. Certainly, on other issues, McCain will fight with the Democrats. There he will endure legislative failure after legislative failure or, at best, gridlock. But on a whole range of issues, both substantively and stylistically, he and the Democrats will measure success in the same way. When that happens, the conservatives in the Republican Party will REALLY have something to be mad about.
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Then, if so moved, please volunteer and give money. We can still deny McCain victory in the convention. Don't let the propagandist pundits deceive you.
But but but we HAVE to vote for him, the other side is worse. All the McCainics are telling us so!
Just drink the kool aid! McCain is a Conservative! HE IS! He told us so at CPAC today! /s
Great! Republicans get the blame for every stupid, traitorous thing the Dims do. Just peachy.
I shudder to consider the damage that can be done.
Not that anyone cares or that it mattes, but I am not voting for McCain. I have decided.
The main reason for me is his constant class warfare type speech. No conservative or Republican tha t?I’d vote for would say that pharmaceutical companies are the bad guys, or would bad mouth profit so easily.
These are things Reagan would abhore.
I find it revolting to think of voting for him. And I am sure there many many many more conservatives like me. Obama is going to wipe the floor with him in the general. I predict something like 48 states Obama will win. It will be ugly, and part of the reason is that McCain will not be able to woo conservatives. Don’t believe the polls tha tsay MCain will beat the DEMs. He won’t, but it would not matter if he did as his policies will be implemented either way. It will jsut be Obama of Hillary doing it.
I’ve decide though, and principle is more important than even this election.
What a paragraph!
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Not only that, a McCain victory will send a signal to the RNC that they can anoint anyone and be guaranteed a loyal party turnout at the voting booths. I’m sorry but I’m really tired of sheepishly admitting that “I voted for him.... twice”.
His “support” for the surge is/was for his candidacy, and he will leave Iraq ASAP, imo. Flirting with Kerry for VP during WARTIME made me realize he is NOT a serious man, he is simply playing a game.
I am very comfortable not voting for him, he Huck and Paul, the same.
I have never even considered voting for any of them, never.
As Of Today there is 67 Members of congress who belong to the Congressional Progressive Caucus (Democratic Socialist of America).
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26947
Don’t get too worked up, there isn’t a chance in hell that McCain will win the Presidency. The only reason he is getting the nomination is because he has been propped up by the press and they got some stalking horses to knnock out all the decent candidates one by one.
That’s the key: Ignore the Presidential election and work for conservative candidates from the US Senate all the way down to local courthouses. This crop is dead; we need to plant for the future. We should spend great effort to weed out any who worked with (read: capitulated to) liberal Democrats. Purge the Liberals!
I’m with you. I’ve said all along I would not vote for him under any circumstances, but today, when it hit me right between the eyes that I would have to pay the consequences for not voting “R”, I began to waffle and try to rationalize a way I could vote for him that it might not be so bad.
Then I regained my senses. See my tagline.
There is no difference between McCain and Huckster. None. Huckster is akin to McCains Manservant, Graham, except for less time spent kissing ass.
Good move!
Even so, it is likely democrats will make meaningful gains in both houses.
The irony of getting more republicans elected to congress is that it will pay off best if a democrat gets the presidency.
If Hillary or Obama is elected:
Most republicans will fight the excesses of every socialist/big government/Shamnesty proposal they try to push through.
Remember - McCain would still be a Senator "reaching across the asile".
If McCain is elected:
He will propose programs similar to those Hillary and Obama would, and most Republicans will roll over for him in the name of party unity.
It's going to be a rough 4 or 8 years either way.
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Huckabee’s differences with John McCain:
1. 100% pro-life
2. pro Marriage Amendment
3. for the Sessions plan, against illegal immigration
4. for the Bush tax cuts
5. Fair Tax
6. First Amendment
7. Second Amendment
There are seven differences for you, for starters. See how many more you can find at http://mikehuckabee.com
There are seven.
Support the candidate for U.S. President who supports Sen. Sessions’ plan to curb illegal immigration.
Huckster has been at war with Conservatives just like McCin has been. What the SAY means NOTHING (except to fools).
Or 2 years. Remember, the structural disadvantages we have have been working under start going away in 2010. I am counting on the Dems seriously overreaching between 2008 and 2010. That may be overly optimistic but right now, it our only hope. If not 2010, them 2012.
a rough 4 or 8 years either way.
Another Decade of high tax rates before any fiscal conservatism will be enacted.
I think the Huckster should go back to preaching!
Glad to see this article, and this is the reason I’d never vote for McCain. Republicans would be better off fighting a Dem. president and congress while rebuilding the party and gaining congressional seats.
Has been my tag line for several days.
Does anybody know?:
Is it too late in this election cycle to get a third party out there in all 50 states? Are conservatives so very very few in number that this leftist Juan McCain represents the GOP? I’m wondering what percentage conservatives make up the GOP?
I don’t know if I can vote for him, at this point no, but I’ll have to wait and see. The problem I foresee if the conservatives “sit out” this election, en masse, is that there is a possibility that McCain could still be elected (face it Obama and Hillary are poor choices especially if we’ve had a recent terrorist attack near election time.) In that case, even Dems and Independents will vote for McCain and he will have won without the conservative vote, marginalizing the right wing of the party. Future nominees will know it’s possible to get elected w/out the conservatives and that would not be a good thing.
I was happy to hear this afternoon that Rush read the CQ article that I posted. He, too, agreed that it was a likely scenario if McCain were to be elected.
I think you’re right. In my opinion, the only option conservatives have at this point is to support conservative congressional candidates and hope we get enough of them elected to be able to slow the liberals there (and the one that will be president.)
I agree. If you go to www.MarkLevinShow.com you can hear the actual recordings and videos of McCain saying he thought Hillary would be a good president, that John Kerry is a very qualified candidate, and many other such outrageous things. By the way, the Great One (Levin) has a terrific radio program every weekday evening. Have you heard him?
I hope you’re right. By the way, now that McCain has won the primaries see how fast the MSM change their tune and start trashing him.
Sometimes you can judge a candidate by their earliest and most steadfast supporters. Remember when that idiot Sen. Graham (Gramnesty in Rush- talk) called us “bigots” for not supporting the McCain-Kennedy comprehensive (amnesty!) legislation? That little toady is with him at nearly every public gathering grinning like the simpleton he is. Why don’t the people of South Carolina focus on getting rid of that “gang of 14” clown?
Huckabee has broken all time records for flip-flopping on illegal immigration. It’s been documented (and posted on FR) that in Arkansas he helped them flood the public school system and was a tax-and-spend governor. Heritage, the Club for Growth, and others have revealed how his supposed tax cuts and debt reduction were just fiscal legerdemain.
I totally agree!
Big warchest (out of state donors) and lots of trial lawyers' money--$4M, plus the support of the Republican party (oh, yeah)--who is going to take him on in the Repub primaries?
Even the Dems in Sc won't front a candidate because they like him.
I think it’s too late for a third party candidate. As a defeated Tancredo/Hunter supporter, I personally feel very disappointed. I’ll never vote for McCain - only conservative congressional candidates. I don’t know in terms of numbers or percentages how many conservatives are out there - I only know that it’s such an important part of the GOP base that they can’t elect a national candidate without our support.
LOL! HTML is out friend.
Easier to read at the Source.
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=news-000002666802
Excellent analysis.
I think you pose the dilemma many conservatives are facing. Personally, I can’t vote for McCain. One reason our party is filled with RINOs is that we’ve been choosing the lesser of two evils for too long. Until we reconstruct the party in terms of Reananite conservatism (which wil be a long struggle), we’ll continue to be forced to choose between “tweedle-dum” and “tweedle-dee.” We can see where that’s got us. One of the few things McCain said that I agree with is that it’s better to lose an election than one’s core beliefs and principles. I’m going to support conservative congressional candidates in the hope that they can at least slow down the liberal onslaught we’ll be facing.
Right - a great analysis. I said earlier that I was very happy to hear that after I posted it Rush read the whole article this afternoon.
Old news and old B.S.
Think now, think President not Governor (different rolls).
Fred Thompson endorsed his buddy McCain today
Woah, am I ever surprised?
Well, yes I am, sometimes. Not this time, of course.
There are many, many people who are at a loss, it seems, about what being a conservative is. Just see the FR poll results.
If you find a stable bunch of actual conservatives with a forum, somewhere on the Web, please let me know.
It’s very current news and the only BS involved has come from Huckster and those who spout his talking points.
....”If you find a stable bunch of actual conservatives with a forum, somewhere on the Web, please let me know”.....
YES~ Please tell us oh’ great one!
All the rest of us are unstable! You are the sane one! If you find that site please feel free to GO!.... And all of us mear motrals promise not to follow.... WE PROMISE! Pfft!
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