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Why Romney Failed
National Review ^ | February 8, 2008 | Byron York

Posted on 02/08/2008 4:02:17 AM PST by monkapotamus

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To: Appleby

Your comments about Romney are weird. Do you have any personal experience to back them up? I personnally spent over two hours with Romney when he visited our National Guard unit in Iraq. We flew him all over the place to meet all the Massachusetts troops deployed. If he was pulling an “act” of being gracious and polite and interested in what we were doing, he did a brilliant job. Our battalion commander and senior staff officers had lunch with him in our conference room He answred our questions for over an hour.

All in all, I was very impressed. He didn’t strike me as an above the fray rich guy at all. As a small business owner in civilian life I was especially interested in his thoughts on taxes and immigration. On both issues he hit home runs if you ask me. He eaned my vote that day. Despite the fact he never served in the military he at least had the sack to fly around the country with us under some dangerous conditions. I for one am sorry he’s out of the race. Maybe he’ll get a VP nod, we’ll see.

Your observations are nuts if you have nothing but what Hucklebee says about him as your “evidence”.


141 posted on 02/09/2008 5:23:53 AM PST by strider44
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To: libstripper
However, the national security argument in favor of voting for McCain is definitely strong, indeed, the strongest of the bunch. That leaves me in a horrible quandary, making me an undecided voter for the first time in 44 years.

Tthrowing open the doors to 30 million invaders and giving terrorists access to civilian courts is not national security.

Cordially,

142 posted on 02/09/2008 6:29:21 AM PST by Diamond
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To: wtc911
It is ironic that those same qualities that make CEOs successful make them appear inapproachable and emotionally detached. Mitt, the prototypical CEO never connected viscerally.

We are, indeed, electing a National Talk Show Host. Thus, Obama has the inside track.

Ryan Seacrest vs. Tyra Banks might have been a better campaign - I know the voter turnout would have been much higher. ;)

143 posted on 02/09/2008 6:33:24 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: monkapotamus

If he had waited until after his CPAC speech to suspend his campaign, he would have been carried all the way to the white house on conservative shoulders. What an error in judgment.


144 posted on 02/09/2008 6:39:31 AM PST by greenhornet68
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To: monkapotamus
I can’t answer the question any more definitively about John McCain. But if I had to guess, I’d say the things at his core are the United States of America and the defense of its national interest.

Every time I read or hear this or something to the same effect I think of McCain's support, or indeed encouragement, of the invasion across our southern border and I just can't believe that he really gives a good goddamn about our "national interest".

145 posted on 02/09/2008 5:13:11 PM PST by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: monkapotamus
I can’t answer the question any more definitively about John McCain. But if I had to guess, I’d say the things at his core are the United States of America and the defense of its national interest.

Every time I read or hear this or something to the same effect I think of McCain's support, or indeed encouragement, of the invasion across our southern border and I just can't believe that he really gives a good goddamn about our "national interest".

146 posted on 02/09/2008 5:13:31 PM PST by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: xzins
George Washington never met a payroll.

I think it could be easily argued that running a successful plantation was the 18th century equivalent of today's "meeting a payroll".

147 posted on 02/09/2008 5:26:56 PM PST by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: Diamond
Throwing open the doors to 30 million invaders and giving terrorists access to civilian courts is not national security.

Exactly.

148 posted on 02/09/2008 5:29:03 PM PST by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: GATOR NAVY

So...slavery is the same as employees?

Is that right?


149 posted on 02/09/2008 6:01:18 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins

Key words: “the 18th century equivalent”.


150 posted on 02/09/2008 6:24:18 PM PST by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: xzins

Nope. There were plenty of folks at that time with businesses that had real employees.

But, just because I don’t like being picky, I’ll acknowledget that running a plantation was a lot of work. However, I was reacting to the notion that a president isn’t qualified who hasn’t had run a business.

Eisenhower was a general. So was Washington. They were not renowned as businessmen. Certainly, those were not the reasons they’d been called to the presidency.

Most of the military spend their entire lives in that career, and never have to meet a payroll.

And, no place in the Constitution does it mention a “Businessman in Chief” but it does mention a “Commander in Chief.”


151 posted on 02/09/2008 6:38:19 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Nope. There were plenty of folks at that time with businesses that had real employees.

But, just because I don’t like being picky, I’ll acknowledget that running a plantation was a lot of work. However, I was reacting to the notion that a president isn’t qualified who hasn’t had run a business.

Eisenhower was a general. So was Washington. They were not renowned as businessmen. Certainly, those were not the reasons they’d been called to the presidency.

Most of the military spend their entire lives in that career, and never have to meet a payroll.

And, no place in the Constitution does it mention a “Businessman in Chief” but it does mention a “Commander in Chief.”


152 posted on 02/09/2008 6:38:39 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins
I was reacting to the notion that a president isn’t qualified who hasn’t had run a business.

I agree with your post, I just thought he had a little more business experience than you were giving him credit for.

153 posted on 02/09/2008 10:39:23 PM PST by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Unfortunately, no lessons will have been learned.

The nature of the Liberal, hence Liberalism, is collectivization. Form a group. Follow leadership. Work for a common advantage.

The nature of the Conservative, hence Conservatism, is individualism. Independence and self reliance. Be a leader. Work for individual advantage.

It is only when the threat to individualism as perceived by large numbers of Conservatives is sufficient to motivate millions of individual efforts, that Conservtism is advanced.

There is no lesson that can be learned. It's like the parable of the scorpion riding across the river on the back of the frog and stinging him so they both drown. It's just in our nature.

154 posted on 02/11/2008 7:12:33 AM PST by DWar (The perfect is the enemy of the excellent!!)
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To: monkapotamus

Mitt can organize campaigns very well. However the best organization can not make up for the biggest weakness. Mitt Romney himself. Voters don’t know where he’s coming from because he’s a phony. That’s the problem. We don’t trust him to do what he says he will do.


155 posted on 02/25/2012 1:16:02 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Stop Romney - Rick Santorum in the Michigan primary)
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To: Darren McCarty

Mitt Romney: The Plastic Banana.


156 posted on 02/25/2012 7:39:18 PM PST by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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To: xzins
118 posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 12:53:30 PM by xzins: “George Washington never met a payroll.”

Are you sure about that? I think he ran a very large agribusiness operation in the days that agribusiness was the major industry of Virginia.

Granted, quite a few of George Washington's workers didn't have the right to leave, but he still had to feed them, and there were lots of others who were freemen working for him.

157 posted on 02/25/2012 8:53:37 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: Darren McCarty; All

Thank you for resurrecting this old thread.

One good thing about this year is we’re still having a real debate about who our nominee will be in late February. Read the dates. Last election cycle, the primary was basically over before it got to late February.


158 posted on 02/25/2012 8:59:53 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina; xzins

“George Washington never met a payroll.” xzins....

“I think he ran a very large agribusiness operation in the days that agribusiness was the major industry of Virginia.” darrellmaurina......

Not to mention his earlier work as a surveyor. Last I checked surveying took a crew, and that means a payroll......


159 posted on 02/25/2012 9:38:34 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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