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Election Watch: Paul Bashes McCain for Global Warming Alliance with Gore
Business & Media Institute ^ | 2/7/2008 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 02/08/2008 6:42:37 AM PST by ovrtaxt

     You can’t teach an old dog new tricks in the eyes of Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.

 

     The Texas congressman had some harsh words for the GOP presidential frontrunner John McCain, a longtime U.S. Senator, on various issues including what Paul alleged was a one-time alliance with former Vice President and global warming cheerleader Al Gore.

 

     “Now our leading candidate – guess whose position he holds on global warming? Al Gore, he supports the Al Gore bill on global warming.”

 

     Paul spoke to the conservative audience at the Conservative Political Action Conference on February 7 in Washington, D.C.

 

     Paul also pointed out McCain’s partnerships with other Democrats in the past on campaign finance, immigration and taxes.

 

     “Now we have a candidate running for president, who is leading the charge,” Paul said. “One of his best friends is [Sen. Russ] Feingold – campaign finance reform. Another friend of this candidate – his good friend – his name is [Sen. Ted] Kennedy. And then also, his old-time friend – he’s not in the senate right now – Sen. [Tom] Daschle, who used to be his friend on taxes – to increase taxes, not lower them. We need lower taxes.”

 

     Paul also told the audience that if elected, McCain would continue the war, which might mean the reinstitution of the draft.

 

     “And that means, the next generation – the burden is being placed on these young people and that is why the college kids are coming out – because they’re getting ripped off,” Paul said. “We’re undermining their liberties. We’re giving them a foreign policy where it is their lives on the line. The threat of a draft is coming for men and women, as this war is likely to spread. And what have they inherited? Less freedom and a lot of debt.”

 

     Paul, a long-time critic of the war, has vowed to start a pull out if he were to win the election. “On my first day as commander-in-chief, I will direct the Joint Chiefs of Staff and our commanders on the ground to devise and execute a plan to immediately withdraw our troops in the safest manner possible,” he states on his campaign Web site.

 

     An hour earlier, McCain spoke to the same audience and plead for their support if he were to get the Republican nomination. McCain stressed fiscal discipline, but was especially vocal on lower taxes.

 

     “Senator Clinton and Senator Obama will raise your taxes,” McCain said. “I intend to cut them. I will start by making the Bush tax cuts permanent. I will cut corporate tax rates from 35 to 25 percent to keep industries and jobs in this country. I will end the alternate minimum tax and I won’t let a Democratic congress raise your taxes and choke the growth of this economy.”

    

 

 


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: envirowhackism; globalwarminglies; mccain; mccaingore; mccaingwarming; mcfraud; ostrichbrigade; ronpaul
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“Now we have a candidate running for president, who is leading the charge,” Paul said. “One of his best friends is [Sen. Russ] Feingold – campaign finance reform. Another friend of this candidate – his good friend – his name is [Sen. Ted] Kennedy. And then also, his old-time friend – he’s not in the senate right now – Sen. [Tom] Daschle, who used to be his friend on taxes – to increase taxes, not lower them. We need lower taxes.”

Meanwhile McCain points his finger and tells us to 'calm down'.

1 posted on 02/08/2008 6:42:42 AM PST by ovrtaxt
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To: ovrtaxt
Well, if you calm down you will stop adding to global warming.
2 posted on 02/08/2008 6:44:17 AM PST by elizabetty (Mike Huckabee for President of the Confederate States of America -- Bad for the UNION)
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To: ovrtaxt

Waiting for all the RP bashers to come.....

RP was spot on....why hasnt anyone else been bringing this up?

I disagree w RP on Iraq....but he is not far removed from McCain on the issue....McCain wants terrorists rights and no waterboarding. Weak on WOT

At least someone is still laying the lowdown on McCain


3 posted on 02/08/2008 6:47:11 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (UCFRW On McCain: "You can remove the stink-shooter from a skunk's butt....but it's still a skunk")
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To: ovrtaxt

And then also, McCain has this friend, Donald Luskin...


4 posted on 02/08/2008 6:47:58 AM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
I disagree w RP on Iraq....but he is not far removed from McCain on the issue....McCain wants terrorists rights and no waterboarding. Weak on WOT

I agree. Keeping that in mind, Ron Paul is now the most conservative candidate remaining. Not only that, he's the only one in the race since the beginning who understands how the economy actually works.

5 posted on 02/08/2008 6:49:50 AM PST by ovrtaxt (The GOP is no place for a nice Conservative like you.)
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To: ovrtaxt
"McCain . . . Alliance with Gore"

So what else is new. Lieberman as V.P. choice?

6 posted on 02/08/2008 6:50:03 AM PST by TCats
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To: ovrtaxt; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I wish he and others would have done this sooner. The ammo’s been out there for sometime now. McCain in 2006 on “Face the Nation”:

SCHIEFFER: Senator, let me ask you one quick question because I know you’re back from the South Pole.

Sen. McCAIN: Sure. Yep. Yep.

SCHIEFFER: What do you think about global warming now after coming back from there?

Sen. McCAIN: I believe—and I’ve been to the Arctic, as well. I’m confident, unfortunately, that climate change is real. It’s taking place every day we don’t do anything about it in implementing national policy to try to stop the emission of greenhouse gases, which are generated by human activity. We are doing a terrible thing to this globe and a terrible thing to future generations of Americans.

SCHIEFFER: Do you think it’s being handled correctly by the administration?

Sen. McCAIN: No.

SCHIEFFER: You don’t?

Sen. McCAIN: No.

SCHIEFFER: What do they need to do?

Sen. McCAIN: Well, first of all, we need to recognize that it’s real. Second of all, then we could start embarking on various efforts, including a revised Kyoto, which means India and China have to be part of it, and whatever else other demands we have, but also start taking major steps to reverse this greenhouse gas emissions. And one of those is going back to nuclear. Nuclear power is a major short-term effort that we need to make to reduce the emission of greenhouse gases.

SCHIEFFER: All right. Well, thank you very much, Senator. Always good to have you. We’ll be back in a minute to talk to Senator Dianne Feinstein.


7 posted on 02/08/2008 6:55:44 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Now everyone on here who called Ron Paul a kook suddenly love him...
8 posted on 02/08/2008 6:55:48 AM PST by Moleman
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

If RP could be President in charge of Domestic Affairs, he would be perfect.


9 posted on 02/08/2008 6:55:58 AM PST by DManA
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To: ovrtaxt

I agree. Keeping that in mind, Ron Paul is now the most conservative candidate remaining. Not only that, he’s the only one in the race since the beginning who understands how the economy actually works.


Unfortunately too many of us (at times me included) spent too much time dissing RP....and look what we got: McCain

Yikes!


10 posted on 02/08/2008 6:56:28 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (UCFRW On McCain: "You can remove the stink-shooter from a skunk's butt....but it's still a skunk")
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To: Moleman

Don’t count on it...there are still a lot of RP haters on this site.


11 posted on 02/08/2008 6:57:33 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Moleman

Now everyone on here who called Ron Paul a kook suddenly love him...


I think its more “hating ourselves”.

Now we got a real kook...yuck


12 posted on 02/08/2008 6:58:33 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (UCFRW On McCain: "You can remove the stink-shooter from a skunk's butt....but it's still a skunk")
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To: Moleman

Not me, he can take his cindy sheehan retoric and stuff it.

Rather McCain than a nazi lover. I don’t see McCain posing with don black’s son.

There are moonbats in my neck of the woods that love this guy.
Is McCain perfect, heck no, but paul will never get my vote.
We are seriously desparate if he is the nominee.


13 posted on 02/08/2008 6:58:54 AM PST by Larebil (My name is liberal backwards, since they backwards thinking)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I was a Hunter guy, but I never criticized Paul. He makes so much sense on everything except Iraq. On balance, with regard to the full spectrum of his platform, he makes way more sense than McCain or Huck.


14 posted on 02/08/2008 7:00:40 AM PST by ovrtaxt (The GOP is no place for a nice Conservative like you.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Friends, McCain is morphing into the new Al Gore.

And I have the same regard and respect for him as I do for Al.

That is a transcendent fact, my friends.


15 posted on 02/08/2008 7:03:42 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Still with the Ron Paul thing. FLASH!!! He lost!!But he’s still taking donations, so send in another check.


16 posted on 02/08/2008 7:03:49 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
I like Ron Paul, except for his moonbat stands on the WOT. I like Pat Buchanan, too, except for his paranoid anti-Semitism.

In both cases, those negatives are just too much to overlook.

17 posted on 02/08/2008 7:06:34 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Iron Munro

“my friends.”

McCain wasn’t too bad yesterday with this little phrase. It does, however, have all the makings for a drinking game trigger phrase.

By the time McCain finished his BS, and 30 “my friends” later, you wouldn’t care.


18 posted on 02/08/2008 7:09:10 AM PST by toddlintown (Building More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: Iron Munro

With McCain, the Clinton’s and Gore’s will not go away for another eight years. For the last 16 they have systematically set out to undermine this country. Let there be no doubt that McCain has an alliance with them. We have to ask ourselves...can we tolerate this for another 8-12 years??

I think I’m casting my vote for Ron Paul. At this point, Iraq is the only thing I disagree with him on...and at least he calls a spade...a spade...


19 posted on 02/08/2008 7:11:31 AM PST by dba.adabas
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To: ovrtaxt
McCain's words calm down, remind me of Bill Clinton saying put some ice on it...
20 posted on 02/08/2008 7:12:35 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

“Waiting for all the RP bashers to come.....”

The neo-cons and sunshine conservatives can’t seem to handle an actual conservative being in the race. I also disagree with Rep. Paul on the WOT. But I’ll take the 80% of a loaf that he offers versus the 20% that the McCain/Clinton ticket offers.


21 posted on 02/08/2008 7:13:15 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: ovrtaxt

And the fun begins...


22 posted on 02/08/2008 7:13:21 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: ovrtaxt

Ron Paul is now the most conservative candidate remaining.

He is isn’t he. lol. I guess 22 April I will have to give some consideration. He is pretty loopy but goodness what is the alternative.


23 posted on 02/08/2008 7:14:36 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: ontap

So who do you suggest? If you say McCain, I’ll just laugh.


24 posted on 02/08/2008 7:15:23 AM PST by ovrtaxt (The GOP is no place for a nice Conservative like you.)
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To: Moleman

“Now everyone on here who called Ron Paul a kook suddenly love him...”

I doubt that. But given that we’re facing a McCain/Clinton ticket thisNovember, folks who scoffed at him initially are now taking a second look. I personally expect that he will run on a third party ticket, and if he does so I will support him. He isn’t a “perfect” candidate, and I think he is wrong on lot with regard to the WOT, but he is a far better candidate than the alternative.


25 posted on 02/08/2008 7:16:45 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: napscoordinator

Welcome to Bizarro world! I’ve been there for a few weeks myself.


26 posted on 02/08/2008 7:17:35 AM PST by ovrtaxt (The GOP is no place for a nice Conservative like you.)
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To: ontap

“Still with the Ron Paul thing. FLASH!!! He lost!!But he’s still taking donations, so send in another check.”

Here’s another news flash. The reason he’s still taking donations is because he’s likely going to run on a third party ticket. It does him no harm and a lot of good to stay on the GOP ticket as long as possible.


27 posted on 02/08/2008 7:19:17 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

The neo-cons and sunshine conservatives can’t seem to handle an actual conservative being in the race. I also disagree with Rep. Paul on the WOT. But I’ll take the 80% of a loaf that he offers versus the 20% that the McCain/Clinton ticket offers.


Good analogy...though I think McCain offers less than 20% of the loaf

His supporters claim he is strong on Nat Security and taxes...but he has a history of being weak on those, too

I just hope its not 9 months of “but McCain is better than Hillary/Obama”. Thats why we have McCain in the first place


28 posted on 02/08/2008 7:20:06 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (UCFRW On McCain: "You can remove the stink-shooter from a skunk's butt....but it's still a skunk")
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To: Moleman

I want to love him. I really do. He is so right on so many issues. But he is so wrong on the WOT I can’t support him.

McCain is wrong on so many issues I will never vote for him.

My only hope, and it is a small one, is that the WOT will be over by November and I can then vote for Paul. Seems unlikely though.


29 posted on 02/08/2008 7:23:29 AM PST by live+let_live
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To: ovrtaxt

Paul makes sense on this.


30 posted on 02/08/2008 7:23:40 AM PST by isrul
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

“Good analogy...though I think McCain offers less than 20% of the loaf.”

I’m being generous.

“I just hope its not 9 months of “but McCain is better than Hillary/Obama”. Thats why we have McCain in the first place.”

You’ve just summed up the election strategy for the GOP for 2008: vote for us, we’re slightly less awful than the alternative.


31 posted on 02/08/2008 7:24:09 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: ovrtaxt

So who do you suggest? If you say McCain, I’ll just laugh.


I will do more than laugh. I may also expel some breakfast, too.


32 posted on 02/08/2008 7:26:32 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (UCFRW On McCain: "You can remove the stink-shooter from a skunk's butt....but it's still a skunk")
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

RP is spot on, this time. But his position on Iraq and national security is a deal breaker.


33 posted on 02/08/2008 7:27:49 AM PST by kidd
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To: Moleman
Now everyone on here who called Ron Paul a kook suddenly love him...

LOL, exactly...

34 posted on 02/08/2008 7:27:59 AM PST by Rush4U (unnamed source)
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To: Just mythoughts
McCain's words 'calm down', remind me of Bill Clinton saying 'put some ice on it...'

Perfect description ....... great tagline material!

35 posted on 02/08/2008 7:32:09 AM PST by MissMagnolia (There's no "Green" in Red, White & Blue.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
The reason he’s still taking donations is because he’s likely going to run on a third party ticket.

I also think that if Huckabee stays in the race (I'm not sure why he would), it's possible that Paul could pull enough support from the former Romney people to have enough delegates at the convention where he *might* have some influence. It's a long shot, but it's possible. Romney dropping out helps Paul a lot.

36 posted on 02/08/2008 7:32:37 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: ovrtaxt

The guy has zero chance of winning yet he is still taking gullible supporters’ money. Sounds like he would be real good at handling the economy. Just because we are down to three rotten choices, it’s not time to start touting the looniest one.

Paul is:
- Dangerous on terrorism.
- Wrong on Iraq.
- Doesn’t think Iran has a military.
- Wrong on drug control.
- Soft on criminals.
- Doesn’t want a border fence and hopes the problem will go away without federal welfare.
- He is a conspiracy theory nut.
- He has proven his ineptness by allowing racist nesletters to be published under his name for decades.
- He is totally inefective in Congress


37 posted on 02/08/2008 7:35:18 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: ovrtaxt
"Paul also told the audience that if elected, McCain would continue the war, which might mean the reinstitution of the draft."

And the Paulbots wonder why us normal Freepers think he is a nutbag!

38 posted on 02/08/2008 7:36:26 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (McCain is unstable.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

He’s still a loon on the war. But on the rest he’s right on, I’ll give you that.


39 posted on 02/08/2008 7:55:45 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Don't think I can vote for you John, I'm feelin' like a maverick.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

We hear the same refrain every Presidential election cycle; anyone but Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore and now Billary, while the Federal Leviathan grows exponentially under Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush and Bush.

Is it me, or does the rank and file of the Republican Party realize their own party has baited them into socialism or do they just prefer statist sodomy from Republicans rather than Democrats? Long lives the Ron Paul Revolution...

“It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”

—-Samuel Adams


40 posted on 02/08/2008 8:01:28 AM PST by lfaegre ("Skip the light fandango and turn cartwheels across the floor...")
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To: RKBA Democrat

He has always been on a third party. Him masquerading as a Republican has been a fraud all along.


41 posted on 02/08/2008 8:11:31 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; George W. Bush; Revelation 911; NapkinUser; DreamsofPolycarp; The_Eaglet; ...

let freedom Ping!


42 posted on 02/08/2008 8:29:45 AM PST by CJ Wolf (To Join or leave the offical Ron Paul 'let freedom' Ping, Freepmail me.)
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To: kidd

“RP is spot on, this time. But his position on Iraq and national security is a deal breaker.”

National security begins at home and what we are getting is socialism if we don’t fix it and soon our position on Iraq won’t mean crap anyway...


43 posted on 02/08/2008 8:35:41 AM PST by CJ Wolf (To Join or leave the offical Ron Paul 'let freedom' Ping, Freepmail me.)
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To: Proud2BeRight

“- He is totally inefective (sic) in Congress”

In my book that would be a plus as a president, given the other choices. Just think, we could spend the next 4 years getting absolutely nothing done, which is better then continuing to slide down this well of socialism.


44 posted on 02/08/2008 8:39:01 AM PST by CJ Wolf (To Join or leave the offical Ron Paul 'let freedom' Ping, Freepmail me.)
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To: cgk
"..and I’ve been to the Arctic, as well."

Hell, I've been to France, but that doesn't make me a socialist!

45 posted on 02/08/2008 8:47:59 AM PST by Designer
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To: Vigilanteman
"I like Pat Buchanan, too, except for his paranoid anti-Semitism."

You've been brainwashed. Buchanan is for America first not Israel, Korea, Formosa, Kosovo, Kuwait, England or any other country. Anyone who puts American interests before Israel maybe anti-semitic to those who put Israel before America.

46 posted on 02/08/2008 8:48:40 AM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: CJ Wolf

If Ron Paul is correct, that our fiscal policy will be our doom.
The Islamofacists will never have to strike the American homeland again. All they need to do is scare our current crop of politicians into believing an attack is imminent. We’ll spend ourselves into oblivion.


47 posted on 02/08/2008 8:53:52 AM PST by lfrancis
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To: live+let_live
"But he (Ron Paul) is so wrong on the WOT I can’t support him."

We've seen this many times here, but consider this:

If Ron Paul is correct on everything else, then might he also be correct on the "WOT" as well?

48 posted on 02/08/2008 8:57:35 AM PST by Designer
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To: lfrancis
"If Ron Paul is correct, that our fiscal policy will be our doom."

It is very difficult to try to name one issue that everyone will agree is the most important.

Some say the "WOT".

Some will say it is abortion.

for others, it is the economy, gun control, education, taxes, or whatever.

Ron Paul (and me) take the position that we must address the real root cause of America's problems, and act to eliminate it.

FYI: I can sort of lump it all together under a few descriptive terms; globalists,and socialists. These people are in our midst, and they are the most powerful people on the planet.

Have you ever considered that they are the primary enemy? Put a stop to their subversive activities, and the terrorists will have far less support.

49 posted on 02/08/2008 9:10:13 AM PST by Designer
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To: ovrtaxt
As usual, this thread is becoming filled with worthless hyperbole and outright lies about Ron Paul. What the heck is wrong with people? Paul is THE most conservative candidate left in the race by far, and the majority want to perpetuate lies and distortions to bring him down (and our country).

As someone else said, this has completely become Bizarro World.

50 posted on 02/08/2008 9:16:21 AM PST by Womp Rat
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