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Posted on 02/08/2008 10:13:55 AM PST by xzins
The president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission says comments by best-selling author John Grisham at the recent "New Baptist Covenant" meeting are theologically off base.
During a rare public speech, Grisham criticized Baptists who believe the Bible is the inerrant Word of God. The novelist spoke about a Baptist church he attended as a youth, which he described as intolerant because its leaders said the Bible should be read literally.
The Southern Baptist Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission president, Dr. Richard Land, disagrees with Grisham and says it is not intolerant to defend God's Word. "I don't think taking a strong and high view of Scripture is intolerant," he maintains. "It's being obedient to the command of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. And so, John Grisham is a really good novelist, I enjoy reading his books -- but I don't think I'll take his advice on theology."
Dr. Land also contends it is no coincidence that the meeting -- which featured former Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton -- was held a week before the Super Tuesday primaries. The meeting also featured former Vice President Al Gore, who was named "Baptist of the Year."
"Anyone who thinks all of that amounts to coincidence, I've got beachfront property in Arizona I'd for you to look at," says Land.
Al Gore Baptist of the Year?
My head just exploded.
What difference does it make? The guy is not basing it on reality anyway.
Do you think that maybe there were just three attendees at the New Baptist Covenant meeting....Clinton, Carter, Gore?
The first 2 elected the last to be “Baptist of the Year.”
:>)
Oh yeah, here is a novelist who is qualified to pick the Baptist of the year. NOT!!!!
That's great! He must have won a lot of souls for Christ, spent a lot of time helping the poor, praying over the sick, counseling people, wow. I can only imagine the crown of glory he will get for all the many demonstrations of his deep faith in Christ our Lord and savior.
*snort*
So they pick "Baptist Of The Year" based on whose house burns the most energy then?
The first 2 elected the last to be “Baptist of the Year.”"
I don't think you could get any of those three egomaniacs to vote for anyone but themselves.
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I wonder if the $390 Al Gore gave to charity was his tithe to his local SBC church? Not too literal on tithing. I bet they were sorry to see him go.
LOL!
Why...that would be....George W. Bush!
(sorry, he's a methodist)
The whole bunch of them are going to see “cosmic warming” up close and personal.
Three guys found themselves in Hell: we will call them Huck, Mitt, and John.
They were a little confused at their present situation, and they were startled to see a door in the wall open, and behind the door was perhaps the ugliest woman they had ever seen. She was 3’4”, dirty, and you could smell her even over the Brimstone.
The voice of the Devil was heard, “Huck, you have sinned! You are condemned to spend the rest of eternity in bed with this woman!” And Huck was whisked through the door by a group of lesser demons to his torment.
This understandably shook up the other two, and so they both jumped when a second door opened, and they saw an even more disgusting example of womanhood gone wrong. She was over 7’ tall, monstrous, covered in thick black hair,and flies circled her.
The voice of the Devil was heard, “Mitt, you have sinned! You are condemned to spend the rest of eternity in bed with this woman!” And Mitt, like Huck, was whisked off.
John, now alone, felt understandably anxious, and feared the worst when the third door opened. And as the door inched open, he strained to see the figure of ... Cindy Crawford. Delighted, John jumped up, taking in the sight of this beautiful woman, dressed in a skimpy bikini.
Then he heard the voice of the Devil saying:
“Cindy, you have sinned.”
Moral: We’re being punished, too, with John.
I hearby appeal to the LHP to declare this thread a “Neener Friday Frolicks” Thread. (Humbly, of course.)
Thank you so much for the chuckle!
LOL! I heard that joke before, only the players were Hitler, Idi Amin, Khruschev, and Marilyn Monroe.
MS Ping
Very cute posting, lol!
“Baptist of the Year.” Yeah, right, I can see that. Not.
I did a lot of video production work for a fantastic congressional candidate back in the 90s. He had formerly been a U.S. Attorney who prosecuted Grisham's father and several other county supervisors after they were busted for corruption. Grisham was bitter and vowed to spend big to thwart any political ambitions of the evil U.S. Attorney.
MM (in TX)
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Thanks potlatch
Just back from Warsaw Deli with good stuff!
Stopped at Hernando’s Hideaway for imported chemicals.....
A dark, secluded place, huh?
Sounds good!
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Oh....
And corn muffins
I drizzle blueberry syrup over those with my double-secret coffee blend in the morning!
I imagine Gore will be thrilled!!
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algore is beyond politics now
$120,000,000+ bucks and growing like Kudzu might do that....
LOL
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Ever stop to think that Slick Willie is now worth less than algore - and his physical appearance, health and future are going downhill fast?
Actually I haven’t, lol. But that is probably something that irritates the Clintons badly!!
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I’ll say!
One thing algore has done (though it is BS scam!) is to eclipse the Klintoons!
It must eat at their innards and gnaw at their brains - as they have so souls.....
Reminds me of a movie where a creature pops out of you, lol.
The torso, lol. The McRat gif is the original, not with Hillary. She is over with Hsu getting money.
I think we have wandered from the topic, heh!
Tell that to the millions of Americans who ate hot meals and received innumerable other benefits from the donation of money and man hours that poured into the coastal area after Katrina....and after every other natural disaster. Say what you want about the SBC, few other private organizations in the world man-up and help people in need quickly, more efficiently, and more extensively than the SBC.
John Grisham is a former Democrat member of the Mississippi legislature, isn’t he? He is a “true believer” too in socialism.
During a rare public speech, Grisham criticized Baptists who believe the Bible is the inerrant Word of God. The novelist spoke about a Baptist church he attended as a youth, which he described as intolerant because its leaders said the Bible should be read literally.
So, he and unknown others--unknown to me, at least--have decided to create themselves a new religion, unencumbered by pesky things like a basis for their beliefs. I should no longer be amazed by things like this, but I am. If you don't base your Christian faith on the Bible, then you're creating that faith out of thin air, and we know who the principality of the air is.
Grisham was a Sunday school teacher for years, and I had always been under the (mistaken?) impression that it was at a mainstream Baptist church. I guess he did the old pick-and-choose routine when it came to the Bible: Use what you like and just ignore the rest if it interferes with the God that you've created in your own mind.
Shaking head...
MM (in TX)
Bullseye, MM.
If it isn’t bible-based Christianity, then it is human-based Christianity.
I’ll go with the written contract rather than the whimsical crowd any day of the week.
How can a denomination defend the Bible as the inerrant word of God in one breath, and name Al Gore as Baptist of the Year with the next breath? Major major disconnect.
Why does Gisham have anything to say on the subject?
The first line of the article slips by almost unnoticed. The "New Baptist Covenant" is a new denomination (or part of it) that was created with the help of Jimmy Carter.
They are former Southern Baptists for the most part. They deecided the SBC was too fundamentalistic, to homophobic, etc.
This new group does not believe the Bible to be the inerrant word of God.
I don’t know beyond what’s reported in the article.
Thanks for the info. Religion and politics, what a mess. A conservative does not always mean conservative and Baptist does not mean a Baptist.
My comment was not to question the SBC as a benevolent organization or the relevence of their benevolence. In my opinion much of the SBC's theology lacks relevence. You may also wish to challenge that opinion, but I allow me to have it in any case. Al Gore, "man of the year" is just one part of case in point.
You realize that the group which anointed Gore is a group which dissents on many points from the mainstream of SBC theology, right?
New Baptist Covenant? The group’s name is blasphemous. There is only one New Covenant, and that is the covenant that Jesus made with His disciples-—all of His disciples, regardless of denomination. The notion of a “New Baptist Covenant” is foreign to the Word of God.
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