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Maazel Departs for Pyongyang Amid Controversy (NY Philharmonic conductor criticizes America)
The New York Sun ^ | February 7, 2008 | KATE TAYLOR

Posted on 02/08/2008 2:12:19 PM PST by MaestroLC

On the eve of the New York Philharmonic's departure on an Asian tour that will include a visit to Pyongyang, its music director, Lorin Maazel, suggested that Americans are not in a position to criticize the North Korean regime, because America's own record on human rights is flawed.

"People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw bricks, should they?" Mr. Maazel told the Associated Press. "Is our standing as a country — the United States — is our reputation all that clean when it comes to prisoners and the way they are treated? Have we set an example that should be emulated all over the world? If we can answer that question honestly, I think we can then stop being judgmental about the errors made by others."

Experts on North Korea responded to Mr. Maazel's comment with shock and dismay.

A senior fellow at the Peter G. Peterson Institute for International Economics and the author of "Korea after Kim Jong-il," Marcus Noland, called Mr. Maazel's statement "outrageous."

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The orchestra is leaving today for a three-week Asian tour, which will include a concert in Pyongyang on February 26. A spokesman for the State Department, which encouraged the Philharmonic to make the visit, declined to respond to Mr. Maazel's comment, noting that he is a private citizen and not a government employee. The spokesman for the Philharmonic, Eric Latzky, did not return a phone call.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conductor; controversy; lorinmaazel; maazel; northkorea; philharmonic; pyongyang; shutupandsing

1 posted on 02/08/2008 2:12:29 PM PST by MaestroLC
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To: .30Carbine; 1rudeboy; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 31R1O; ADemocratNoMore; afraidfortherepublic; Andyman; ...

Classical Music PING


2 posted on 02/08/2008 2:14:23 PM PST by Borges
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To: MaestroLC

If its so much better thaqn he should stay there.


3 posted on 02/08/2008 2:15:07 PM PST by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: MaestroLC
Give him a break. He’s an idiot savant.
4 posted on 02/08/2008 2:15:50 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Stay in Pyong Yang, fool.


5 posted on 02/08/2008 2:16:26 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: MaestroLC

Whatever you say this guy is definitely to right of former NY Philharmoic director, Leonard Berstein.


6 posted on 02/08/2008 2:16:44 PM PST by Biblebelter (I will NEVER EVER vote for McCain or any other current Senator.)
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To: golfisnr1

I suppose we could all call NPR and ask them to stop playing classical music by Maazel, but....


7 posted on 02/08/2008 2:17:02 PM PST by mbarker12474 (United Methodist Church: Open Hearts, Open Minds, Open Legs, Open to Anything)
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To: MaestroLC

Too bad Mr. Maazel wasn’t around 65-years earlier. They would have loved him at Berchesgarten.


8 posted on 02/08/2008 2:17:37 PM PST by tanuki (u)
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To: DManA

Maazel recently composed an opera on Orwell’s ‘1984’...they should try to get it performed in NK. Not.


9 posted on 02/08/2008 2:18:18 PM PST by Borges
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To: mbarker12474

Most NPR ststions hardly play Classical music at all anymore. It’s all talk shows about this or that.


10 posted on 02/08/2008 2:24:41 PM PST by Borges
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To: MaestroLC

People who live in ivory towers shouldn’t throw bricks either. Stick to music, please, sir.


11 posted on 02/08/2008 2:27:30 PM PST by baa39
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To: MaestroLC

Musicians are very skilled in their area of expertise. Most often, other than that, they don’t know from what direction the sun comes up.


12 posted on 02/08/2008 2:29:13 PM PST by keepitreal
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To: MaestroLC

Typical liberal comment. Dumbass probably thinks North Korea is a suburb of Beijing.


13 posted on 02/08/2008 2:31:33 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Benedict Arnold was against the Terrorist Surveillance Program)
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To: MaestroLC

Have we set an example that should be emulated all over the world?..... Uhhhh, Yeah. Waterboarding isn’t quite as bad as starving your people or running them over with tanks or etc. etc. etc.


14 posted on 02/08/2008 2:32:01 PM PST by Safetgiver (By the way, that means defecating on the local convenience store.)
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To: baa39

“Stick to music”

Stick...conductor’s baton... yuck, yuck, yuck.


15 posted on 02/08/2008 2:32:44 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: Borges

we are lucky in denver to have an npr classical music station KVOD that is on a different station then National People’s Radio propaganda broadcasts. the only talk is music talk, and very little of that, and they might run a 5 minute hourly news at 1800.


16 posted on 02/08/2008 2:33:36 PM PST by bravo whiskey (everybody's shot. drive the truck)
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To: bravo whiskey

In Chicago we have probably the best classical music station in North America (WFMT) but the Public Radio station is all other things considered.


17 posted on 02/08/2008 2:38:56 PM PST by Borges
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To: bravo whiskey

One of my favorite stations (not an NPR or commercial free) is WCLV in Cleveland.


18 posted on 02/08/2008 2:39:42 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: MaestroLC
"On the eve of the New York Philharmonic's departure on an Asian tour that will include a visit to Pyongyang, its music director, Lorin Maazel, suggested that Americans are not in a position to criticize the North Korean regime, because America's own record on human rights is flawed."

Enjoy your stay in North Korea idiot.

19 posted on 02/08/2008 2:44:57 PM PST by StormEye
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To: MaestroLC
I heard Maazel’s last concert in Cleveland in 1980 something. He conducted Verdi’s Requiem and it was great. He was a child genius, conducting orchestras while he was still a teen. He is known for not using a score while conducting—memorizing all the parts of the orchestra.

Still he’s an idiot at foreign policy and moral philosophy to equate NK and the US. Doesn’t he know the government has a policy of starving its citizens?

20 posted on 02/08/2008 2:57:35 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not die)
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To: PurpleMan

“One of my favorite stations (not an NPR or commercial free) is WCLV in Cleveland.”

Ah! I listened to WCLV while I was growing up! Is Carl Haas still doing Adventures in Good Listening? Do they still have WCLV Saterday Night?

“Everybody loves Saturday night!
“Everybody loves Saturday night!
“Everybody, everybody,Everybody loves Saturday night!”

And then it goes into other languages.


21 posted on 02/08/2008 3:03:02 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not die)
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To: MaestroLC

One more liberal Jew.

Probably hates Israel too.


22 posted on 02/08/2008 3:04:57 PM PST by toddlintown (Building More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: MaestroLC

Idiot. Unable to distinguish a freckle from malignant skin cancer.


23 posted on 02/08/2008 3:08:01 PM PST by SampleMan (We are a free an industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: SampleMan

Two million have starved to death unnecessarily in NK,
and the place is a hive of labor camps in which hundreds of thousands barely survive, and he has no words for that,
but only to criticize Guantanamo?


24 posted on 02/08/2008 3:10:24 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: MaestroLC

For lefties, this kind of cheap slander against the United States is like cocaine. They simply can’t resist it. It lights up their pleasure centers like a roman candle.


25 posted on 02/08/2008 3:14:22 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: MaestroLC

Why are most entertainers idiots?


26 posted on 02/08/2008 3:14:50 PM PST by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

“Is Carl Haas still doing Adventures in Good Listening?”

Actually, it’s no more :>( Stopped just recently. Had something to do with a request/negotiations with the Haas estate.

Learned TONS from Hass.


27 posted on 02/08/2008 3:20:28 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: Borges

Hey,
We here in St. Louis can’t have Chicago claiming the best
in anything without responding...KFUO is outstanding.

http://www.classic99.com/


28 posted on 02/08/2008 3:42:00 PM PST by McGarrett (Book'em Danno)
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To: MaestroLC

Perhaps Maazel will become a citizen of North Korea, like Daniel Barenboim recently accepted Palestinian citizenship.

Maazel wanted Barenboim to succeed him at the NY Phil.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/944235.html


29 posted on 02/08/2008 6:24:59 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie
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To: PurpleMan
>> “Is Carl Haas still doing Adventures in Good Listening?”

> Actually, it’s no more :>( Stopped just recently. Had something to do with a request/negotiations with the Haas estate.

See here... http://www.wclv.com/page.php?pageID=174

Don’t forget, you can to listen to WCLV live here...

http://www.wclv.com/page.php?pageID=64

Home of the best band in the land, The Cleveland Orchestra.

30 posted on 02/08/2008 6:57:37 PM PST by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: ADemocratNoMore

The best band in Cleveland anyway. The Chicago Symphony is the best in the world. :-) Seriously though it’s those two that are as good as any in the world.


31 posted on 02/08/2008 8:28:06 PM PST by Borges
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To: McGarrett

Some classical critic who travels a lot and listens to those stations all around said that WFMT was a 10 and the next best classical station is a 6 or so. Even in NYC they only do it part time and play excerpts as opposed entire works. It’s great to hear there’s a good one in St Louis. Are they full time classical?


32 posted on 02/08/2008 8:31:12 PM PST by Borges
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

“Is Carl Haas still doing Adventures in Good Listening?”

No,..No he’s not. At the moment, he’s kind of dead.


33 posted on 02/08/2008 9:47:16 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: Borges

Yessir. It’s actually a full-time commercial station sponsored by the Missouri Lutheran Synod. They’re currently celebrating their 60th anniversary.


34 posted on 02/09/2008 4:27:30 AM PST by McGarrett (Book'em Danno)
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To: garyhope

“Is Carl Haas still doing Adventures in Good Listening?”

“No,..No he’s not. At the moment, he’s kind of dead.”

There’s a lot of that going around! ;)

I kind of thought he was . . . I just wasn’t sure. And the program can continue without him.


35 posted on 02/09/2008 5:43:56 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not die)
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To: MaestroLC

I guess right now I must say this,

ARE YOU WATCHING THIS, MR. BUSH?


36 posted on 02/27/2008 6:53:22 AM PST by Mike Powell
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To: Borges

Oh yes, now you reminds me. Their Tchaikovsky’s 1812 Overture is brilliant.


37 posted on 03/04/2008 6:33:59 AM PST by Mike Powell
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To: MaestroLC

Last time I checked, we hadn’t starved a million or more Americans, just to keep control of the rest.

I’d love to see this @$$hat’s passport revoked and him declared “persona non grata” so that he couldn’t come home. If he likes the Norks so much, let him stay there and do concerts for the Kims...


38 posted on 03/04/2008 6:38:21 AM PST by Little Ray (Drink the KoolAid: McCain for President!)
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