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[Ron]Paul Concedes Race, Sort Of
The New York Times ^ | February 9, 2008 | Ariel Alexovich

Posted on 02/09/2008 4:09:04 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

In a message to supporters sent just before 11 p.m. Friday night, Representative Ron Paul, a long-shot G.O.P. candidate from Texas, basically conceded that he’s not going to win the party’s nomination. That said, he’s scaling back his campaign — but not entirely.

He said: With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter.

Mr. Paul clearly stated that he will not run as a third-party candidate. Right now, his priorities are serving the residents in his Texas congressional district and winning re-election.

If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. From what we can make of the letter, Mr. Paul is staying in the race on a peripheral level, just so he can keep participating in policy discussions (and maybe use up all that money he’s amassed?).

“In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always,” Mr. Paul wrote. “And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me.”

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Who here wants to bet that he WILL NOT run a third party campaign?
1 posted on 02/09/2008 4:09:06 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In a message to supporters sent just before 11 p.m. Friday night, Representative Ron Paul, a long-shot G.O.P. candidate from Texas, basically conceded that he’s not going to win the party’s nomination.

See? Toldja the meds would finally kick in, eventually. ;)

2 posted on 02/09/2008 4:12:00 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me.”

Ron Paul--all talk, all the time.

Truthers everywhere shed a tear.

3 posted on 02/09/2008 4:14:33 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Six SCOTUS justices will be 70 or older in January of next year.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Well howdy, Stranger. :-)


4 posted on 02/09/2008 4:15:04 AM PST by Allegra (A chicken in every pot and a pair of new socks every day.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Yeah but... has he said anything definite about which planet he actually came from?

I’m in the betting pool for some place in the Alpha Centauri system.

It is close as stars go, and he does dang near pull off that whole “act human” thing.


5 posted on 02/09/2008 4:16:29 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: NormsRevenge; pissant; AuntB; Calpernia; cripplecreek; Man50D; Greg F; Kevmo; RasterMaster; ...

PING!


6 posted on 02/09/2008 4:16:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: Allegra
Oh, don't mind me. I'm just here to take a few healthy whacks at the fat, tempting target of the ol' Juan McAmnesty pinata, is all. ;)

Howdy yourself, hero! How's the night life way ver where you are, lately? They feedin' you right, an' stuff...? ;)

7 posted on 02/09/2008 4:18:50 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll bet he won’t. His strategy was to win just enough delegates to be an influence at a brokered convention.

He is a Member of Congress, and has a handful of delegates, and thus will get time to speak at the convention.

The RNC should treat him with respect and schedule his speech as they would any other GOP candidate who has made it this far.

But they probably won’t, which goes to show you just how narrow the window of acceptable political discourse has become.


8 posted on 02/09/2008 4:21:42 AM PST by oblomov
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To: Grimmy
I’m in the betting pool for some place in the Alpha Centauri system.

No, no, no. He was on his way TO Alpha Centauri, along with Don, Judy, Will, Penny and The Robot, when their ship got knocked off course and they all ended up...

... well. You know. ;)

9 posted on 02/09/2008 4:21:57 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
What is going to be interesting is to see the demographics of what his supporters do now the only McCain is left(PUN INTENDED). Exit polling should take a moment and ask the question, who did you support before your candidate dropped out?

I think an interesting thing will be seen, and confirm what I've been saying all along. There were really only 7-12 actual Wrong Paul supporters who stay up all night on Red Bull and Mt. Dew binges FReeping polls.

10 posted on 02/09/2008 4:24:17 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Whatever happened to No Neck Joe?)
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To: oblomov
He was supported by 9/11 truthers, KKK and Neo-Nazi types, Birkenstockers and assorted other lunatic fringe kooks. You can’t blame the GOP if they don’t need those kind of associations. Heck, the guy with the presumptive nomination is crazier than a sh*thouse rat, already!
11 posted on 02/09/2008 4:26:19 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I guess I can spill it now. Selling secrets is trendy enough. Just tell me you work for the NYT and it should all be ok.

Now, the truth, finally, after all these years.

He was actually trying to return home to AC. That ship got knocked off course because the good and decent folk of AC did not want him back.

When they banish someone, they tend to mean it. You ever notice how many bizarros there are around our little planet?

yeah, well, we do not have representation at the Galactic Conference of Civilized Worlds, so guess where all the undesirables and unwanteds get sent?


12 posted on 02/09/2008 4:30:18 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: oblomov
The RNC should treat him with respect and schedule his speech as they would any other GOP candidate who has made it this far.

Absolutely. Right between the opening dedication by Michael Moore and the party mission statement by Cindy Sheehan.

13 posted on 02/09/2008 4:30:54 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

wait, he’s crazier than mccain?


14 posted on 02/09/2008 4:31:48 AM PST by Liberty2007 (I AM AWESOME , The best thing on Talk radio----Michael Savage)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Who here wants to bet that he WILL NOT run a third party campaign?

I don't doubt it. He's in it for the money.

15 posted on 02/09/2008 4:33:04 AM PST by bcsco (Tag space for rent: "aPaulogists" need not apply.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Who here wants to bet that he WILL NOT run a third party campaign?

I'll take that action and even give you eight to five odds.... virtually. LOL

Paul is a patriot. He's a loon, but he is definitely OUR loon. He's had in mind, all along, running for re-election in his district, hence the fund raising online. He knew he'd never win the GOP nomination for POTUS, but now he has one heckuva large war chest for what is essentially a local race. There has always been a method to the madness.

16 posted on 02/09/2008 4:36:40 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Grimmy
"...yeah, well, we do not have representation at the Galactic Conference of Civilized Worlds, so guess where all the undesirables and unwanteds get sent?"

No extraordinary rendition without representation!!

17 posted on 02/09/2008 4:37:35 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: Liberty2007
wait, he’s crazier than mccain?

Too close to call. Like trying to decide which one you'd rather see naked on a hot summer's day: Tor Johnson or William Conrad. ;)

18 posted on 02/09/2008 4:42:54 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He was also supported by many conscientious conservatives and libertarians in the GOP who found his anti-statist message a refreshing contrast to the socialist Dems and the “tax collectors for the welfare state” in the GOP race.

What about the troofers, neo-nazis, and KKK members that support McCain, Huckabee, or Hillary? Certainly there are some.


19 posted on 02/09/2008 4:49:23 AM PST by oblomov
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To: oblomov

If he agrees to endorse the nominee and to explain why that nominee is better per Ron Paul’s issues than the Democratic alternative. they should let him speak at the convention.


20 posted on 02/09/2008 4:50:07 AM PST by Greg F (A vote for Huckabee is now a pure vote for a contested convention. Think about it.)
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To: Greg F
If he agrees to endorse the nominee and to explain why that nominee is better per Ron Paul’s issues than the Democratic alternative. they should let him speak at the convention.

I'd settle for allowing him to talk about the virtues of fiscal restraint and a limited government. Of course, as near as I can tell most in the GOP no longer adhere to those principles.

21 posted on 02/09/2008 4:53:28 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

It would be stupid of the RNC to shun Paul. He is an ideological cognate of the old right that opposed FDR and Truman. Or is the RNC ready to jettison such historical figures as Robert Taft, Howard Buffett, and John Miller of NY (Goldwater’s running mate)?


22 posted on 02/09/2008 4:54:12 AM PST by oblomov
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To: Greg F

I agree.


23 posted on 02/09/2008 4:55:34 AM PST by oblomov
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Although I disagree with his foreign policy position...isolationism...I will probably vote for him in November. I have the advantage of knowing he can’t win...and it will make me feel good.


24 posted on 02/09/2008 4:55:44 AM PST by kjo
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To: NittanyLion

In recent months he has raised a fortune and spent almost nothing, so what is he going to do with it all?


25 posted on 02/09/2008 4:58:00 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Mike Huckabee: If Gomer Pyle and Hugo Chavez had a love child this is who it would be.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have been predicting this, that Ron Paul is going to go independent.


26 posted on 02/09/2008 4:58:01 AM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: oblomov
It would be stupid of the RNC to shun Paul.

Kindly point out the precise point where I stated anything even remotely along the lines of "shunning" the man, for heaven's sake. I simply feel it contingent upon myself -- inherently solicitous sort that I am -- to offer the occasional suggestion, wherever I reasonably can, to see that his message is appealingly "set off" against the most naturally appealing and sympatico sort of background possible, under the circumstances.

Now, for the introductory musical number... which one do you like better: Dixie Chicks, or Babs Streisand...?

27 posted on 02/09/2008 4:59:44 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: NittanyLion

I’d settle for allowing him to talk about the virtues of fiscal restraint and a limited government. Of course, as near as I can tell most in the GOP no longer adhere to those principles.
_________________

Nod.


28 posted on 02/09/2008 4:59:52 AM PST by Greg F (A vote for Huckabee is now a pure vote for a contested convention. Think about it.)
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To: oblomov

Goldwater’s running mate was William E. Miller, not John.


29 posted on 02/09/2008 5:06:22 AM PST by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan. Pray the Rosary)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

John McCain has more in common with Michael Moore than Ron Paul.

McCain agrees that health care is “in crisis” and that we have to “do something” to stop Big Pharma and the evil insurance companies.

McCain and Moore agree that campaign finance reform means getting the “big money” out of politics by enacting restrictions on free speech.

They agree on amnesty for illegals.

They agree on a cap-and-trade system to reduce carbon emmissions in the G-7.

So perhaps Moore should speak at the convention.

I don’t know about Sheehan. I could never find a coherent thread in anything she ever said.


30 posted on 02/09/2008 5:08:28 AM PST by oblomov
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To: oblomov

The fat broad ain’t opened her yap yet!


31 posted on 02/09/2008 5:10:33 AM PST by gunnyg
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To: oblomov
John McCain has more in common with Michael Moore than Ron Paul.

See post #18, above.

You're attempting to parse the razor-thin difference between (say) being french kissed by Larry Fine, and being french kissed by Shemp Howard. Surely there must be some stray atom, someplace, you might more profitably split...? ;)

32 posted on 02/09/2008 5:11:57 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: ExSoldier
"He's had in mind, all along, running for re-election in his district, hence the fund raising online. He knew he'd never win the GOP nomination for POTUS, but now he has one heckuva large war chest for what is essentially a local race." wow. great idea. I think I'll run for President on the Indpendent ticket to pay off my bugatti. Phooey on campaign finance reform! Paul (the truthsayer): "I'm running for president and I need your donations!! (applause) And even if I only get 1% of the wacko vote and bucks, I'll use it to grease my congressional re-election bid." Probably next eleciton cycle we will see 50 candidates running using this formula.
33 posted on 02/09/2008 5:24:08 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Allegra

BOO! :-)


34 posted on 02/09/2008 5:46:13 AM PST by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: Allegra
Hey... where'dja go, for pete's sake? ;)
35 posted on 02/09/2008 5:51:37 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Drinking Coffee I sure hope it doesn't take him this long to come to the right diagnosis in his medical profession.
36 posted on 02/09/2008 5:56:01 AM PST by HawaiianGecko (Mizzou '73)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The constitution party wants him badly. I can see why — he has a pot of money, recognition, and aligns fairly well with their positions.

He would be a good place in the Repub Party to register conservative votes that show McCain the strength of the conservatives in the party. Huckabee will serve the same purpose with religious conservatives.

McCain needs to go into the convention knowing there are 2 massive groups who want to see a real signal from him — the annointing of a viable, relatively young, true conservative as his VP.

Without that, he loses my vote.


37 posted on 02/09/2008 5:56:07 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Hey... where'dja go, for pete's sake? ;)

Aw, I got called into a meeting with some Marine officers. They needed my procurement expertise. ;-)

38 posted on 02/09/2008 6:46:12 AM PST by Allegra (A chicken in every pot and a pair of new socks every day.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What? No more “9/11 was an inside job — vote for Ron Paul” bumper stickers?


39 posted on 02/09/2008 6:49:03 AM PST by JoeGar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is a brokered convention??


40 posted on 02/09/2008 6:49:35 AM PST by DeLaine
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To: gunnyg
The fat broad ain’t opened her yap yet!

I thought Don Meredith has already sung, "Turn out the lights, the party's over."

41 posted on 02/09/2008 6:54:00 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: hiredhand
BOO! :-)

EEEEEK! :-)

42 posted on 02/09/2008 6:59:17 AM PST by Allegra (A chicken in every pot and a pair of new socks every day.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do you think it depends on whether he loses his primary? Like if we beat him in the primary, will he be upset enough to bolt?

Was there really any chance he was GOING to lose his primary down there?


43 posted on 02/09/2008 6:59:18 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You did good, sir. See ya around.


44 posted on 02/09/2008 7:03:29 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: DeLaine

Amassing delegates to get the nomination is like amassing electoral votes to win the electoral college, and the presidency. You have to win a majority of the total. Just like it’s possible for the electoral college to end in a tie or no one getting a majority, that then gets decided by the House of Representatives, the result of a candidate failing to win a majority of the delegates is that the other candidates have the opportunity to join forces and give delegates to one another to allow a candidate to finally win a majority of the total and win the nomination, at the party’s convention. The process of giving your delegates to another candidate is called brokering, because you get something in return for giving away your delegates— the VP or a special speaking spot or whatever.


45 posted on 02/09/2008 7:03:53 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Libertarian Party sends condolences to the Republican National Committee

Washington, D.C. - Following a solid McCain victory in the Super Tuesday primaries, the Libertarian Party has sent Republican headquarters a funeral wreath marking the death of limited-government values within the Republican Party. The wreath was hand-delivered to the D.C. offices of the Republican National Committee. "We simply felt the need to express our heartfelt sympathy for the Republican Party as they undergo this tough time within their party," says Libertarian Party National Media Coordinator Andrew Davis, who delivered the wreath.

"Given that it has become readily apparent that Senator McCain will soon be the presidential nominee for the Republican Party," reads a card that accompanied the wreath addressed to RNC Chairman Mike Duncan, "we, the staff of the Libertarian National Committee, send our condolences to you upon the death of small-government principles within the GOP."

The note continues:

Libertarians encourage competition within both the free-market and politics. Unfortunately, with the rise of John McCain and the big-spending practices of the Bush administration, the two-party system has emerged as representing only one philosophy - big-government liberalism.

With your loss, the Libertarian Party will continue to move forward to represent those American patriots who still believe in smaller government, lower taxes and more individual freedom.

"McCain's Super Tuesday win marks the death of limited government values within the Republican Party, which had struggled with its principles throughout the Bush administration," says Shane Cory, executive director of the Libertarian Party. "It is a day of mourning for the few remaining small-government Republicans."


46 posted on 02/09/2008 7:04:17 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Vote for McCain! Mental health is overrated!)
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To: COBOL2Java

Say what you want about Libertarians...that’s pretty funny.


47 posted on 02/09/2008 7:10:46 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Thank you for your information.

ok, if brokering is an accepted practice, then why was everyone so upset at what happened in W VA? Wasn’t it just brokering??


48 posted on 02/09/2008 7:10:55 AM PST by DeLaine
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To: oblomov
"It would be stupid of the RNC to shun Paul. He is an ideological cognate of the old right that opposed FDR and Truman. "

People mistake the ending of Paul's campaign and ending his issues. Constitutionally declaring war plus protecting our currency from inflation will be issues that live on.

49 posted on 02/09/2008 7:14:16 AM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
In recent months he has raised a fortune and spent almost nothing, so what is he going to do with it all?

He's building a spaceship for a return flight to Anthena...


50 posted on 02/09/2008 7:15:46 AM PST by LRS (It's time to put Hillary on the 3:10 to Yuma...)
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