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8-year-old boy returning to class as girl
WorldNetDaily ^ | 2/8/08 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 02/09/2008 10:27:07 AM PST by wagglebee

An 8-year-old boy is preparing to return to his home school district in Colorado as a girl, so school officials are designating two school restrooms as unisex facilities, and preparing to counsel other students on the issue of transgenderism.

The report comes from KUSA-Television in Denver, which did not identify the third-grade student or his family in the Castle Rock suburban district.

But the report said the student had attended his home district several years ago, as a boy, and then had taken classes in another district for a time.

One parent, identified by the television station as Dave M., said children in the elementary school are going to wonder what's going on.

"I see this as being a very difficult situation to explain to my daughter, to explain why someone would not want to be the gender they were born with," he told the station.

His daughter will share a classroom with the boy dressing as a girl.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
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But Kim Pearson, of the TransYouth Family Advocates which lobbies on behalf of such students, said students as young as five years old are "realizing their true gender identity."

What an idiot, a person is born with a gender, not a "gender identity."

1 posted on 02/09/2008 10:27:08 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 02/09/2008 10:27:43 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: metmom; Gabz; SoftballMominVA

Ping


3 posted on 02/09/2008 10:28:47 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

saw this yesterday - still just as weird


4 posted on 02/09/2008 10:29:13 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: wagglebee

Pinged it yesterday - don’t see a need to spam people with the exact same topic two days in a row.


5 posted on 02/09/2008 10:29:54 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: wagglebee
Like fairies in the classroom are something new?
6 posted on 02/09/2008 10:30:09 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: wagglebee

The child is 8 yrs old. it is the parents who are beyond idiots


7 posted on 02/09/2008 10:31:29 AM PST by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold)
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To: wagglebee

I find it interesting they are planning on providing mental health professionals for all the kids except the one that seems to really need one. It’s like screwing in a light bulb by turning the house. Um, hellooooo people. The child is a boy. Being mentally confused about that fact doesn’t make it less true.


8 posted on 02/09/2008 10:31:39 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: wagglebee

The story does not really tell what is going on. Or maybe I didn’t read it carefully enough.

Was this really a case of gender identity or was the kid born with both sex organs?

There may be more to this.


9 posted on 02/09/2008 10:34:25 AM PST by ReluctantDragon
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To: wagglebee
You know the kid will suffer as the pervertedly proud parent, uses this kid like a politically correct status symbol, of their Enlightenment

.

Morons.

10 posted on 02/09/2008 10:36:38 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: wagglebee

Sodom and Gomorrha


11 posted on 02/09/2008 10:36:48 AM PST by donna (ADHD - Absent Dad/Husband Disorder)
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To: wagglebee
“What an idiot, a person is born with a gender, not a “gender identity.”

Actually, a person is born with a “sex”. Until fairly recently, it was considered humourous, or a sign of gross ignorance to confuse sex and gender. Gender (as a substitute for sex) is based on the notion that sexual (gender) identity is culturally and socially derived — not a matter of biology. Whenever you use “gender”, while meaning “sex”; you’re falling into the trap set by those of an Orwellian bent, who believe that the way to change reality is to change the language first. (Their devious strategy seems to be working.)

Here’s an interesting essay on the topic:

http://www.anth.ucsb.edu/faculty/walker/publications/PLW%201998%20Gender%20and%20Sex.pdf

BTW, there are only two “sexes” — but, there are (supposedly) numerous “genders”.

12 posted on 02/09/2008 10:38:57 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: wagglebee

To the secular humanists, their mission is mutation through social engineering and they have been given license to choose anyplace they like as their laboratory.


13 posted on 02/09/2008 10:39:47 AM PST by Biblebelter (I will NEVER EVER vote for McCain or any other current Senator.)
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To: wagglebee
That’s what happens when you keep getting picked last for kickball teams.
14 posted on 02/09/2008 10:41:28 AM PST by sierrahome (Hillary Clinton "America's Ex-Wife")
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To: wagglebee

Wrong.
This is a boy who was mutilated. This is not a girl.
It’s impossible to change one’s sex or gender.


15 posted on 02/09/2008 10:41:38 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: wagglebee
I thought this was a case of child being born with anatomical problems sexually. But the article doesn't seem to mention that.

In which case this is insane.

16 posted on 02/09/2008 10:42:58 AM PST by Jorge
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To: ReluctantDragon

Sometimes “mistakes” are made. No doubt few parents are ever prepared to deal with them all that well. I would imagine more than once the parents have lied about their kid ~ even told outrageous whoppers ~


17 posted on 02/09/2008 10:44:26 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

This is cruel. No kid would have thought of having his sex organs cut off and fake organs shaped through plastic surgery. Obviously his parents, the school, and the highly-paid therapists told him that he was really a girl with a boy’s sex organs and that the only way to be happy would be to cut them off.


18 posted on 02/09/2008 10:44:58 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (this is child abuse)
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To: wagglebee
Poor baby! You really have to wonder in the case of these poor children who display this sort of behavior, what on earth has led them, at such young and innocent ages, to despise their own natural born gender so. But nooooooo psychologists continue to to tell us they are in fact the gender they want to be, and ignore a psychosis, and the underlying problems, that are causing it.

We continue down this slope, faster and faster, at the expense of our future, and our society’s future, our children. We are subjecting them to social experiments, at their expense, and our own as a society.

19 posted on 02/09/2008 10:45:23 AM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican! GoHunter.08)
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To: wagglebee

It’s only a matter of time before some parents demand their children be taught in Klingon.


20 posted on 02/09/2008 10:45:52 AM PST by ClaudiusI
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To: wagglebee

This little boy didnt come up with this idea by himself...


21 posted on 02/09/2008 10:46:49 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
It’s impossible to change one’s sex or gender.

My, how old-fashioned of you.

Do try to be modern.
22 posted on 02/09/2008 10:47:01 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: wagglebee
I’m guessing it will be wrong to talk to the little girls about growing up and being mommies themselves, because it may harm little Miss he/she’s self worth.
23 posted on 02/09/2008 10:49:22 AM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: SoftballMominVA
the kid is going to have some explaining to do when he starts to grow facial hair.
24 posted on 02/09/2008 10:53:40 AM PST by chaos_5 (McStain and Suckabee 2008)
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To: wagglebee

Dear God in Heaven, 8 years old and is a transgender already? dumb, Dumb, DUMB!


25 posted on 02/09/2008 10:54:43 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: wagglebee

A good thrashing of both parents with a horse whip would correct this problem in no time.


26 posted on 02/09/2008 10:54:45 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
I noticed the MSM and even professors are confusing sex and gender. It reminds me of how the news confuses immigrants with illegals. LOL
27 posted on 02/09/2008 10:55:43 AM PST by chaos_5 (McStain and Suckabee 2008)
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To: wagglebee

Language has gender, people have sex.


28 posted on 02/09/2008 10:58:04 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: wagglebee

Sick, Sick, Sick!
The Parents are the problem here. They should be taken out and horsewhipped before this kid ruins his life. Kids this young do not have a clue. There are no such things as “Gender Identitiess apart from one’s own gender identity anyway.


29 posted on 02/09/2008 10:59:04 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

This can be vastly more complex than your post suggests. In my psychology studies I learned that there are cases of physically expressed males with female chromosomes and vice versa. This could be addressed by a surgical change. I can’t imagine any surgeon making a change for a psychological reason at the age of eight before real gender identity is established.

In other words there could be a laboratory determined biological basis that justified making a sex change. If that is true, the following steps of reintroducing the child to his social environment should have been made very privately.


30 posted on 02/09/2008 11:00:32 AM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
Wrong. This is a boy who was mutilated. This is not a girl. It’s impossible to change one’s sex or gender.

Was there an operation involved, or is this just a change in clothing?

31 posted on 02/09/2008 11:03:38 AM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: sgtyork

I agree with you. I don’t know much about this stuff and I certainly don’t pretend to be an expert, but maybe there was an issue about the sex organs on this poor kid.

You are so correct that the social re-introduction should have been made privately.

Poor kid.


32 posted on 02/09/2008 11:07:34 AM PST by ReluctantDragon
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To: BnBlFlag
If the child is truly gender dysphoric, the parents are doing a good job dealing with a physical deformity.

If he's not actualy gender dysphoric, they're perverts and the child should be removed from the household.

33 posted on 02/09/2008 11:09:27 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: ReluctantDragon
No the boy thinks he is a girl and the parents have encouraged him.
At the local level this has created a fire storm because parents of “real” girls do not want this kid in the rest rooms.
Parents of boys are furious that the parents pushed this kid into this so called “gender identity”.
The kid play with a few dolls when he was really young.
The parents are lower than idiots, they have destroyed this kid.
He should be pulled from the home and giving to people who would actually love him and not manipulate him for their own sick selfish reasons. The so call counselor should be shoot and tried for malpratic.
34 posted on 02/09/2008 11:13:02 AM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: chaos_5
Actually, I saw another article where a boy talked to Barbara Walters about that same situation. When it comes time for puberty, these kids can be given a hormone that prevents the release of testosterone and prevents facial hair.

But that being said, it doesn't matter what he LOOKS like, he IS a boy, and nothing will change that. He will never menstruate, give birth, go through menopause, all the things that women can potentially do. (Yes, I know, not ALL women do ALL those things, but we are all born with the potential.)

35 posted on 02/09/2008 11:14:52 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA; wagglebee
There is far more to participating on Free Republic than merely reading a news report. Most of the importance for some is the sharing ideas with other members of the board, not that the report might be duplicate on the topic.

When you fail to ping, therefore, you are making it far more difficult for others to participate in the discussion ( even if they already have knowledge of the topic from another post). I know that you are very far minded government school defender, and would never be intentionally not pinging members merely as a ploy to suppress discussion.

By the way, have you managed to include my name on your ping list, yet? I seem to consistently miss your pings. Again, I know you are a woman of outstanding integrity and would never be withholding my name from the list for petty reasons.

Odd isn’t?

To all the others:

If SoftballmominVA pings you, would you please send a ping to me.

Thanks, all!
Wintertime

36 posted on 02/09/2008 11:16:54 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: verklaring
Where the hell is this kid’s father? No, it is not alright for an 8 year old boy to wear dresses, HE’S A BOY!! Sorry about the mini-vent there, I’ll put money on the fact that other 8 year olds are not going to be so nice to her/him- you can be guaranteed this kid is going to get his ass kicked by his/her fellow school mates.
37 posted on 02/09/2008 11:19:23 AM PST by MissEdie (On the Sixth Day God created Spurrier)
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To: Jorge

I was thinking exactly along the same lines as you. If that were the case, one would think they might have mentioned that in the article. Sometimes I see so much of this nonsense, I wonder when it is exactly that schools get about the business of teachers, teaching and students, learning. If this child is 8 years old and there were no anatomical ambiguities; This is state-sponsored child abuse and PC taken to the point of absurdity.


38 posted on 02/09/2008 11:19:44 AM PST by WildcatClan (The epitome of irony is that few entities exist, less common, than common-sense.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

I wonder if the kid saw the social bonding of girls with mothers and wanted his mother to love him like that; or perhaps the mother wanted a girl and treats him coldly, so his solution is to become the girl his mother wanted. Perhaps the child wanted the caring concern most adults direct to girls while boys are ignored or that boys can only do wrong.
IMO, this is more likely a result of the war on boys that a transgender case.


39 posted on 02/09/2008 11:21:37 AM PST by tbw2 (Science fiction with real science - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: wagglebee
two school restrooms as unisex facilities

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How will this solve the problem? If the boy feels he is a girl then he will feel discriminated by be shoved into a “uni-sex” bathroom.

By the way,,, All YMCA’s should have some unisex facilities. My husband took my daughter ( who had just turned 3) to the Y for a swim. In the men’s locker room after the swim, she proceeded to say over and over, “That man has a p*nis! That man has p*nis!” ( Using,of course, that high pitched and peircing voice typical of toddlers.)

40 posted on 02/09/2008 11:23:10 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: verklaring
The child is 8 yrs old. it is the parents who are beyond idiots

Precisely! Eight years old? I'm sorry, but this is a despicable thing to do to a child.

41 posted on 02/09/2008 11:25:15 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: wagglebee

Link to local story,

http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=85989


42 posted on 02/09/2008 11:27:11 AM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Throughout history there have been a very few people who were born with the sex organs of both sexes. And, naturally, it was the parents who decided how (which gender) their child would be known as. As sad and as difficult this would have been to the child/person, as well as difficult for the parents and siblings, they did manage to get through it. Privately, with discretion and dignity.

Example, in doing some genealogy research on my family line, I came across a family unit, which lived about 3 generations back, in which one of the children was indicated as being female in an early census; there are old tin-type photos showing the person dressed as a girl, and also a photo of the person dressed as a young woman, but then in later census records that same person starting using a man’s name and indicated he was living in a household, he being the husband, with a wife and a child. We did find a reference in private family correspondence that this person had been born with the sex organs of both sexes. This was of course before medical advancements provided a ways to change/correct anatomical features.

Situations like this were kept secret in past generations. And perhaps that gave the impression that it was shameful. But in today’s society, people seem to think that in order to remove the “shameful” aspect of what is a sad and tragic accident of nature – we should go to the other extreme. As in this instance today in Colorado, where this child’s plight is being published in the newspaper, discussed on the Internet, the school forced to provide a private restroom.

Maybe some think this is progress, but to my way of thinking, this accomplishes more shame, strife, division, finger-pointing. My heart goes out to the child who is having to be exposed by all of this publicity. And of course, it is the parents who are ultimately responsible for protecting the child.

Who can say which is best? To protect the child from negative attention or publicize it and get over it so that the child accepts his/her predicament at an early age.


43 posted on 02/09/2008 11:28:08 AM PST by i_dont_chat (Your choice if you take offense.)
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To: wintertime

Why would you allow a 3 year old to see naked men? I never put my daughter in a position of having to enter a mens dressing room or bathroom.


44 posted on 02/09/2008 11:30:19 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Even my tagline is sad....I can't stand ANY of the candidates!)
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To: wagglebee

Put this freak and its parents out of their misery.


45 posted on 02/09/2008 11:31:36 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
I wasn’t there. I heard about it later.

Boys are in the women’s restrooms and dressing rooms ( up to the age of 5 or so). That is somehow different?

46 posted on 02/09/2008 11:35:36 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Hold up a second. This is absurd, it is child abuse and this child bears no responsibility for this. I am not quite sure what the situation is with this child anatomically or psychologically but the responsibility lies with the parent. If this is a boy dressing as a girl then I suspect abusive influences are at work here. It is not the fault of the child.


47 posted on 02/09/2008 11:38:34 AM PST by WildcatClan (The epitome of irony is that few entities exist, less common, than common-sense.)
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To: verklaring

It’s everyone in the world who is “pro-political correctness” who is beyond idiots, because liberalism is a mental disorder!


48 posted on 02/09/2008 11:38:52 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: wagglebee

May God help that family!!


49 posted on 02/09/2008 11:40:01 AM PST by kenmcg
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To: wintertime

A three year old has no need to see naked men in public. If this had been a bathroom emergency, your husband should have put his hand over her eyes and taken her to the potty. I can’t even imagine taking a child into a men’s locker room.


50 posted on 02/09/2008 11:43:58 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Even my tagline is sad....I can't stand ANY of the candidates!)
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