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1 posted on 02/10/2008 6:00:34 AM PST by justkillingtime
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The smoke Gestapo will use this one incident to justify their actions.


2 posted on 02/10/2008 6:04:01 AM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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Oh come on! If her asthma was that bad why was she working out where she knew smoke was sure to be? Also, if her asthma was that bad and she cared about it she’d have been taking preventative medications plus have her emergency inhaler.


3 posted on 02/10/2008 6:04:45 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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Smoky bar triggered fatal asthma attack

"Awwwwwwwww... dude! I always end up getting blamed for everything!"

4 posted on 02/10/2008 6:05:03 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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“He said a smoking ban could prevent future deaths.”
Without being to insensitive, how about carrying your inhaler, or maybe looking for another line of work? Go ahead and flame me.


5 posted on 02/10/2008 6:05:29 AM PST by duckman (I refuse to use a tag line...I mean it.)
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Rosenman said the woman had asthma since age 2. Her asthma was poorly controlled. She had made four visits to her doctor in the year before her death for flare-ups, and had been treated in a hospital emergency department two to three times that year.
And yet she continued to work in a "smoky bar."
6 posted on 02/10/2008 6:05:46 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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7 posted on 02/10/2008 6:07:15 AM PST by Condor51 (Vote McInsane or Ugga-Bugga? Decisions, decisions, decisions.)
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Since the drinking age is 21, what is a 19-year-old (at most) doing working in a bar?


8 posted on 02/10/2008 6:07:55 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Political zombies need brains, but they hunger only for taxes." ~ NicknamedBob)
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Obviously something needs banning.


You would think after all that hard work and money spent on earning her waitress degree that the university of higher education she attended will refund some of the fees to someone in need.


R.I.P.

9 posted on 02/10/2008 6:08:12 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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” Smoky bar triggered fatal asthma attack “

Remember that the anti-smokers pioneered a lot of the “blame-everyting-on” tactics that the GW herd uses to such great effect.....

Waiting for headline that reads “Mass Transit Bus Fumes Triggered Fatal Asthma Attack”

Waiting....

Waiting.....


13 posted on 02/10/2008 6:11:20 AM PST by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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I don't have asthma, and yet I can't spend much time inside a smoky bar. I have to get some fresh air. Personally, I wouldn't work in a smoky bar.

If I had severe asthma, I sure as heck wouldn't get a job in a smoky bar. The young lady decided poorly. And now politicians will try and ban smoking. *sigh*

14 posted on 02/10/2008 6:11:28 AM PST by Sender (Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon.)
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com and the PROOF smoke caused the attack is...???
15 posted on 02/10/2008 6:14:40 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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Although she had prescriptions for an assortment of drugs to prevent and treat asthma attacks, she was reported to only use them when she was having breathing difficulty. On the evening of her death, she had no inhaler with her. "

Anyone with a comparable history of asthma would not
a) conciously place themselves in an environment that may potentially trigger an asthma attack,
b) leave home without an albuterol inhaler in case of any emergency attack,
c) NOT use preventative medications, especially since they are so prevalent nowasdays

And, yes, I feel qualified to make these statements as I have a history of asthma/asthmatic bronchitis. I haven't had an attack for more than one year, but everyday I carry on emergency inhaler with me.
17 posted on 02/10/2008 6:15:25 AM PST by callisto (CONGRESS.SYS corrupted...Re-boot Washington DC (Y/N)?)
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Oh brother...

This is like the article from a few years back that claimed hundreds of heart attacks had not occurred because of a one month old smoking ban.

One whiff and you're a stiff!

21 posted on 02/10/2008 6:25:32 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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The issue isn’t whether tobacco smoke can trigger an asthma attack (it can; so can chimney smoke and perfumes) but whether smoking should be banned in private places on that account. It irks me when people who are strong advocates for a position deny reality in order to support their position.


23 posted on 02/10/2008 6:28:41 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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I work part-time in a candle shop. During my interview they asked me if I WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK THERE given the strong aromas. Did anyone ask this lady if SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK THERE? Do we have to ban candles now? Where’s personal responsibility?
25 posted on 02/10/2008 6:30:49 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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“After about 15 minutes, she had an acute asthma attack and collapsed on the floor. The autopsy clearly indicates she died from asthma,” said Rosenman, who would not disclose the woman’s name or the precise place and time of her death for privacy reasons.

I smell a really bogus story here. Wonder what the ME had to say on the death certificate.

26 posted on 02/10/2008 6:30:52 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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Oh where to start. First of all, poorly treated asthma. IOW she didn’t take care of her asthma. Second, she had been working there for awhile with no problems. My DIL has acute asthma. She does not smoke and no one smokes around her. I have had to call an ambulance for her twice for asthma attacks. She has spent time in ICU for her asthma. No SHS involved. Anything could have triggered her attack. This is more propaganda bull. Its just a way to get a death certificate with the cause of death SHS to use for their own propaganda.


31 posted on 02/10/2008 6:39:04 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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33 posted on 02/10/2008 6:45:49 AM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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My father who lived to the age of eighty had asthma from his early teen years until his death. He smoked for years, starting as a young adult and continued to do so for the rest of his life ... except for the last 6 to 8 years. Asthma aside, he enjoyed good health all those years.


40 posted on 02/10/2008 7:01:30 AM PST by BluH2o
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Nanny State Ping.

Condolences to the family of this girl. With that said I find it disgusting how the anti-smoker cartel is and will exploit this event to further their socialistic goals.


42 posted on 02/10/2008 7:04:59 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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