Posted on 02/10/2008 7:13:29 AM PST by repinwi
Colorado: HIGHLANDS RANCH The issue of being transgender usually pops up with students in high school. However, a 2nd grade biological boy wants to dress as a girl and be addressed with a girl's name.
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Pearson says children as young as 5 years old are realizing their true gender identity and her group wants to help parents who may be resisting the acceptance of this.
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Parents are behind this of course.
I myself when I was 5 or 6 told my parents that when I grow up, I want to be a bear. I didn't have the rational understanding that I cannot become a bear. Why not? They do it on cartoons all the time. In short, I didn't understand a lot of fundamental things at that age. I was in an age where anything is possible to imagine.
If a boy is raised with girls and plays with girls, or if maybe he had a bad experience with bullies, he might well think it could be better to be a girl. But he doesn't have the mental concept of things yet. This is where parents and teachers should come in and gently explain the situation.
You can like girls, and bears. But you really can't become one. Now, how about some more Ovaltine?
I am stunned. Thinking about a second grader who makes a decision with their parents support. I can’t imagine explaining this to my children why “Johnny” is now “Jenny.”
That is weird. Since when do little boys want to return to school?
Colorado Parents are behind this of course.
I love your answer! It not only made sense but it made me laugh! Thanks!
Sad truth is that Highlands Ranch is home to the new Denver yuppie liberals. Come though, 2nd grader dreamed this all up on his own?
There. Fixed it.
Kids this young imagine all sorts of silly things. When I was five, I wanted to be a superhero, or a unicorn -- or a fireman. I also told my parents that I wanted to be a boy and asked that I be called "Jimmy".
Thank goodness they didn't take that flight of fancy any more seriously than the other ones, or I would be one seriously messed up kid, instead of a happy wife and mother of two!
"Kim Pearson says the family is getting support. She is the executive director of a national organization called TransYouth Family Advocates. The group has been working with the family and Douglas County Schools."
I guess there's an organization for everything.
The decay continues. I think it is time for this kid to be removed from its parents “care”.
Methinks the parents are just as messed up as this boy.
Well... one little problem of anatomy might exist...
You make excellent points. I was the oldest child, a girl, and I had two younger brothers. My parents and us kids had many conversations when we were little about how one day my brothers would both be bigger and taller than me, but they would never be older than me. We just couldn’t understand that at all.
These parents are doing a serious disservice to their child.
My first thought would be just the opposite. The kid is messed up, but it sounds like the parents are enablers. The child should be removed from the household and placed somewhere that he'll have a chance at a normal upbringing.
The child might still turn out bad, but at least he'd have a chance.
Thank God they didn't have the Trans Youth Family Advocates back then, "Jimmy". What, your parents didn't accommodate your true gender identity?
Sure, and tomorrow he’ll want to wear a Superman cape. A second grader has no concept of what a transgender is. On the other hand his parents certainly do and I totally believe they are the ones pushing this. I also question if he has a mom and dad at home or another case of two mommys.
I think a good DA could make a case for reckless endangerment or some other form of child abuse. How can they justify this type of behavior? Will they be allowed to sacrifice this child to their selfish agenda?
You know how mean middle school girls can be to other girls. What will they do to an imitation girl? And would middle school boys hang out with her? No way!
They are preparing a future suicide case. It would be far better to straighten him out now. He will go through much less trauma learning to like being a boy than he will as a drag tween.
Cut is whacker off and let him go.
Here's one Colorado Parent who makes sense. It's on page 2 of the article posted.
"I just find it ironic that they can dictate the dress style of children to make sure they don't wear inappropriate clothing, but they have no controls in place for someone wearing transgender clothing," said Dave M.
I had one son who totally believed he was part wolf. We were at a BBQ and he was telling my friends husband about his special powers. He insisted that the man hide and he would find him. The guy hides and my son comes out goes to the middle of the yard and puts his nose in the air to catch his scent. He takes off on all fours (btw, he could move, he was as fast as a kid running on two legs.) Gallops around the yard and finds him. It was hysterical, the BBQ was with HS friends and none of them had kids yet. Another time we were separated from my brother at an airshow and he told me not to worry because he would sniff him out.
Needless to say, he’s 17 now and he is not a wolf.
This boy should be taken away from his parents.
On that note: So if a kid wants to come back as a cat, will the school install litter boxes and scratching posts? Will they let IT meow instead of talk?
When my boys were preschoolers there was a little boy in the neighborhood about their age. He lived with his mother, sister and grandmother. His father had never been in the picture. My sons referred to him with the female pronouns. Just saying.
I tried this in junior high so I could get into the girls locker room, but they saw right thru it.........
...here’s the real problem: .....it’s NOT about this little future drag queen....it’s about people like my daughter and son in law who have two small kids and can’t afford private schools....neither can they afford for her to stay home and home school...there are millions of parents like this who are getting crushed by liberal school board’s policies.
I am very suspicious of a biological link here. For years, researchers have known that in mammals, about halfway through fetal gestation, male fetuses secrete a bit of testosterone which tells their brain that it is a male brain. If the brain does not receive that hormone, by default, it is a female brain.
Importantly, in human beings, this does *not* exclusively determine their sexuality, though in animals, it does.
However, it does help to establish personality masculinity and femininity, or in some cases, androgyny.
Researchers long ago decided to interfere with this process, to see what would happen. In *animals*, it dominated their gender behavior. The researchers both gave testosterone to female fetus brains, the resulting adult animal exhibiting male sexual behavior; and prevented it from reaching the brain of male fetuses, the resulting adult animal exhibiting female sexual behavior.
They even went so far as to permit testosterone to *half* the brain of animal fetuses, who then exhibited *both* male and female sexual behavior. Since it was an animal, it would try to mate with both females and males, thus it was bisexual.
So what is the bottom line? Again, unlike animals, this cannot make humans heterosexual or homosexual or bisexual, but it does, most definitely, influence their personality type and gender affiliation.
That is, interference with this process can result in more feminine males, who are still heterosexual; more masculine females, who are still heterosexual; or, based on other factors, may increase the likelihood of homosexual or bisexual behavior, at least as far as their feminine or masculine behavior as homosexuals. (”Pink” and “Blue” homosexuals.)
However, this matters to society, because there are agricultural and industrial chemicals that can have a blocking effect on fetal testosterone. For example, plant estrogens (plant hormone) are sprayed on plants to increase plant growth and to promote larger fruit. And plant estrogens are very chemically similar to mammal estrogens.
It has been known for a while that two foods that are naturally highest in plant estrogens are yams and tofu, and that females can increase their likelihood of pregnancy by consuming these two foods.
However, once pregnant, these two foods should not be consumed if the fetus is male, as that much estrogen could interfere with his masculine personality development, again, about halfway through the pregnancy. But other fruits and vegetables sold in stores also have higher than normal artificial plant estrogens, sprayed on by farmers to increase yield, and this adds to the total.
I use all of this as background to point out how factors like this might result in increasing numbers of cases like this elementary school student with confused gender identity.
Depending on the region and the artificial chemicals involved, and the diet of people in that area, it might be expected that there could even be clusters of students at a school, of feminine boys, masculine girls, or a general androgyny of both boys and girls.
This is not good. Though once again it is important to mention that, since human sexuality is far more complex than that of animals, it is unlikely that this will cause any increase in homosexuality or bisexuality, it will still result in much confusion and unhappiness.
Like an elementary student who wants gender reassignment surgery. That is just plain wrong.
This will be proven statistically, as in times past, there were very, very few people with gender reassignment issues; but today it is a much more common dysfunction. How common might be the product of additive chemicals in our diet.
Wouldn’t it be cheaper to just ship him off to a San Francisco public school?
So, I didn't become a bear, largely because there never seemed to be any bears in my neighborhood. If there were, I would be feeding and walking bears, no doubt.
I've found it is possible to remain a human male, get a job and still realize my childhood ambitions. If my parents had dressed me as a bear and sent me to school, who knows how that would have turned out.
I was in the Dollar store with my youngest, he was about 4 at the time. Another mother and son were in front of us on line. This little boy was pitching a fit over wanting this Barbie doll. The mother was trying to reason with him, saying he ALREADY had that one at home. Gave me the heebee jeebies, meanwhile my four year old blurted out, “He’s a boy, why does he want a Barbie?”
The wolf thing didn’t bother me at all, however, if he wanted to be a girl I would be highly disturbed.
My other son thought he was Batman for about a year. Wore a cape and all. Even when we got rid of the costume cape he would find something to tie around his neck. He’s 16 and we still chuckle about the mask, cape and brown cowboy boots that he wore every day.
The Nation is upside down.
A boy wants to become a girl.
The Republican party is becoming the Democrat party.
What next?
I think the school staff seem to be having just a little too much fun with this whole thing. They are busy busy busy.
he student had attended this same school in years prior, but had left to go to classes in another district for about two years. The transgender student will be returning to what is the child's home school. Dave M. thinks classmates will recognize the change.
How many "years" has this child been in school and how is he only in the second grade?
When I was a kid, little boys wanted to grow up to be a cowboy, a fireman, a soldier or a cop. Now they want to grow up to be women. Weird. Must be something in the water.
Did you also have one that’s part panther? or where did you get your name?
No, my kids play sports and their mascot is a panther.
(and someone knowing the law better than me can say whether or not it actually is criminal negligence and/or actionable)
I saw a transexual on one of the talk shows years ago that posed for playboy, "she" acted like a man impersonating a woman, not as a female. "Her" feminine attributes came off as cartoonish.
I am reminded of the 7 yr. old girl who died from piloting her own plane because her idiot parents thought that was “way cool”. The plan was for the girl to fly AROUND THE WORLD. She’s dead and the mother is unrepentant. Idiots abound. And they greatly harm children.
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However, this matters to society, because there are agricultural and industrial chemicals that can have a blocking effect on fetal testosterone. For example, plant estrogens (plant hormone) are sprayed on plants to increase plant growth and to promote larger fruit. And plant estrogens are very chemically similar to mammal estrogens.
It has been known for a while that two foods that are naturally highest in plant estrogens are yams and tofu, and that females can increase their likelihood of pregnancy by consuming these two foods.
However, once pregnant, these two foods should not be consumed if the fetus is male, as that much estrogen could interfere with his masculine personality development, again, about halfway through the pregnancy. But other fruits and vegetables sold in stores also have higher than normal artificial plant estrogens, sprayed on by farmers to increase yield, and this adds to the total.
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Even more dangerous are the class of drugs called androgen blockers, which prevent androgen from attaching to androgen receptors on the cell surface. They prevent testosterone from entering the cell. Testosterone has to enter the brain cells to masculinize the brain.
Cyproterone acetate is an example of an androgen blocker that is a synthetic progesterone. Cyproterone was used in the animal experiments (rats, as example) to reverse the sexual behavior of male rats, to make them behave like female rats. Cyproterone is marketed in Europe, as Diana, which is used for treating female hirsutism (excess body hair).
Another progesterone of concern is Provera medroxyprogesterone, which is commonly used to induced menstruation or restore menstruation, when it has prematurely ceased. Provera is also used to stop abnormal bleeding from the uterus.
Other androgen blockers include finasteride, marketed as Propecia to treat female hirsutism. Another androgen blocker is spironolactone, marketed as Aldactone, used to treat high blood pressure.
Drugs, which are androgen blockers have black box warning about the danger of administration during pregnancy.
Non endogenous estrogens, as you have mentioned, are also of concern. DES, diethylstilbestrol has been linked to increases in lesbianism in the daughters of women, who were gived DES to prevent miscarriage. DES daughters also have an increase in the incidence of cervical clear cell carcinoma (fancy name for the type of cancer).
DES sons are not immune to problems. One of the observed effects is an increase in the incidence of transgenderism and transsexualism in these boys. There are also other problems in physical development.
An interesting element in the action of testosterone on the brain, is first it must be converted to estrogen, within the brain cells, for the brain to be masculinized. The conversion is done by aromatase, an enzyme in the cytochrome P-450 system.
The synthetic/nonendogenous estrogens do not bind to the alpha fetal proteins. Hence, they are free to enter the brain cells. They can cause a degree of masculinization of the brain in girls. However, they will probably interfere with the normal masculinization of the male brain.
The aromatase mechanism points to the dangers of another class of drugs, aromatase blockers. Conceivably, they can interfere with the masculinization of the male brain.
In all ways, the end result will be as you have said, a very unhappy and uncomfortable individual.
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This will be proven statistically, as in times past, there were very, very few people with gender reassignment issues; but today it is a much more common dysfunction. How common might be the product of additive chemicals in our diet.
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Granted there is more exposure to endocrine disruptors today, many of them are actually iatrogenic. However, one factor in an apparent incidence of transsexualism, is the fact medical treatment (including SRS) is now available. The individuals, who are afflicted with strong transgender feelings, now feel free to seek out physicians and surgeons for treatment.
I have read some old texts on human sexuality, and they mention some cases, which would, today, most certainly be considered transsexualism. One scenario, which happened frequently, was suicide by a male, who dressed in a wedding dress, before committing suicide.
The indication is those individuals were very unhappy, so discouraged, they committed suicide, to escape the pain.
You guys can mess around with those theories all you like.
The cause of same-sex attraction disorder is molestation in the pre-adult years.
Many of Millers friends and teachers already know the 15-year-old freshman, who looks like a girl, was actually born male.
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