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McCain Should Be Feared, Writer Says
Newsmax Insider Report (email) | February 10, 2008 | Newsmax

Posted on 02/10/2008 2:09:16 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

1. McCain Should Be Feared, Writer Says

Presidential hopeful John McCain is being billed as the Republican that liberals can live with, but his credentials as a “bipartisan progressive” are in fact a “lazy, hazy myth,” according to liberal pundit Johann Hari.

“The truth is that McCain is the candidate we should most fear,” writes Hari, a columnist for The Independent in Britain, in an article that appeared in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. “Not only is he to the right of Bush on a whole range of subjects, he is also the Republican candidate most likely to dispense with Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.”

Hari writes of McCain: “Rage seems to be at the core of his personality. Describing his own childhood, McCain has written: ‘At the smallest provocation I would go off into a mad frenzy, and then suddenly crash to the floor unconscious. When I got angry I held my breath until I blacked out.’”

McCain has distinguished himself as an uber-hawk on foreign policy, according to Hari, who is on the editorial board of The Liberal magazine.

“To give a brief smorgasbord of his views: At a recent rally, he sang 'bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb-bomb Iran,' to the tune of the Beach Boys' ‘Barbara Ann.’ He says North Korea should be threatened with ‘extinction.’

“McCain has mostly opposed using U.S. power for humanitarian goals, jeering at proposals to intervene in Rwanda or Bosnia . . .

“So why do so many nice liberals have a weak spot for McCain? Well, to his credit, he doesn't hate immigrants: He proposed a program to legalize the 12 million undocumented workers in the U.S. He sincerely opposes torture, as a survivor of it himself. He has apologized for denying global warming and now advocates a cap on greenhouse gas emissions but only if China and India can also be locked into the system.”

Hari concludes: “These sprinklings of sanity — onto a very extreme program — are enough for a superficial, glib press to present McCain as ‘bipartisan’ and ‘centrist.’”

2. McCain-Romney Rancor Dates Back to Olympics

The acrimony that developed between John McCain and Mitt Romney cannot be blamed simply on the heated primary campaign for the GOP presidential nomination — the two Republicans were at odds years ago over the 2002 Winter Olympics.

Romney took over operation of the then financially strapped Olympics in Salt Lake City in February 1999, and set out to enlist new corporate sponsors and fix a large budget shortfall.

Then in September 2000, McCain spoke on the Senate floor against what he called the “staggering” cost the federal government faced in helping stage the Games.

“The American taxpayer is being shaken down to the tune of nearly a billion and a half dollars,” McCain declared.

He vowed to “do everything in my power” to delay or kill “this pork-barrel spending,” the Los Angeles Times reported.

Romney responded by arguing that taxpayers would need to provide only $250 million, and said he was “quite confident” the Games would receive the funding they needed.

In early 2001, McCain sought to shift $30 million from the Treasury Department, earmarked for law enforcement personnel at the Olympics, to the Pentagon, but the measure was defeated.

Romney, in his 2004 book “Turnaround,” wrote that McCain and others in the Senate were threatening to revoke the tax deductibility of corporate sponsorship, which would “nail the coffin of the Salt Lake Olympics and future Games.”

The clash over Olympics spending, “which dragged on for two years, helps explain some of the acrimony that now characterizes the race between the two front-runners for the Republican presidential nomination,” the Times observed.

In the end, the federal tab — not including construction or improvement of highways, transit systems, and other infrastructure — totaled about $400 million, and the Games were a financial success.

3. Obama Wants Plane Conversations Off the Record

Presidential hopeful Barack Obama has touched off a dispute with the press by insisting that conversations he has with reporters on his campaign plane are off the record.

The issue arose during a Feb. 2 flight when Obama entered the press section of his plane and began speaking with several reporters, including Jeff Zeleny of The New York Times.

“When Obama noticed that the red lights of the journalists’ recorders were on, including Zeleny’s, he said that the conversation was off the record,” politico.com reported.

Zeleny protested that he couldn’t take the conversation off the record. Obama answered a few more questions and returned to the front of the plane.

“In my view, whenever he comes back on the plane to talk to reporters, he is on the record,” Zeleny told politico.com.

“We’re not on the plane, in my view, to have private talks with presidential candidates. We’re here to report what they are saying and give our readers a better idea of their campaigns and their candidacies.”

But Jen Psaki, the Obama campaign’s traveling press secretary, responded: “There has never been a press corps in the history of our nation that got as many interviews as they wanted.”

Obama’s Democratic rival Hillary Clinton has also said at times that a conversation at the back of her plane is off the record, although more recently her campaign said those talks would now be on the record.


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1 posted on 02/10/2008 2:09:19 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

PING!


2 posted on 02/10/2008 2:09:52 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cloverfield 2008! Why vote for a lesser monster?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The rest of the world is just noticing McCain has a crazy side?

Where they been?


3 posted on 02/10/2008 2:10:43 PM PST by kjo
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Hari, a columnist for The Independent in Britain

You know when ever I want advice on who I should vote for, I always look for some pompous Euro-trash columnist to tell me what to think. -

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/s-but did it really even need the /s tag?

4 posted on 02/10/2008 2:12:04 PM PST by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Romney responded by arguing that taxpayers would need to provide only $250 million, and said he was “quite confident” the Games would receive the funding they needed.
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hmm so that’s why he was able to “turn around” the Olympics. he got us to help.


5 posted on 02/10/2008 2:13:31 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
McCain Should Be Feared, but not near as much as Clinton or Obama.

McCain is right on a few things, wrong on most.

Obama and Clinton are Marxists, none in the Senate are to their left.

There are differences in McCain and the Obama/Hillary

6 posted on 02/10/2008 2:14:33 PM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

When I’m wondering who to listen to as it applies to which candidates are the best, I always look for someone who inserts uber in front of their nouns while describing them.


7 posted on 02/10/2008 2:19:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
McCain has distinguished himself as an uber-hawk on foreign policy, according to Hari, who is on the editorial board of The Liberal magazine.

“To give a brief smorgasbord of his views: At a recent rally, he sang 'bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb-bomb Iran,' to the tune of the Beach Boys' ‘Barbara Ann.’ He says North Korea should be threatened with ‘extinction.’

Sounds good.

8 posted on 02/10/2008 2:22:28 PM PST by SolidWood (All conservative effort into retaking Congress!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Well, to his credit, he doesn't hate immigrants: He proposed a program to legalize the 12 million undocumented workers in the U.S.

I am so tired of truely stupid things like this. Those who oppose amnesty for illegal aliens do not hate immigrants. This is the big lie theory in practice. Say something long enough and people will believe it is true.

susie

9 posted on 02/10/2008 2:23:15 PM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: GregoTX
mcCain has more in common with Teddy Roosevelt than FDR

10 posted on 02/10/2008 2:24:27 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This reporter will soon receive a message to get with the program. Liberals are NOT ALLOWED to attack him until after the nomination. Bad boy!

Having said that, I think the point he makes is one that conservatives need to worry about as much as liberals. We don't want a madman in charge any more than they do, and in this case there really is some truth in it.

Hari writes of McCain: “Rage seems to be at the core of his personality. Describing his own childhood, McCain has written: ‘At the smallest provocation I would go off into a mad frenzy, and then suddenly crash to the floor unconscious. When I got angry I held my breath until I blacked out.’”

As many freepers have said for some time, without any help from the left, we do not want McCain's fingers on the nuclear football. It was bad enough when clinton would go to parties and lose the guy holding it, one time leaving him to make his way across DC on foot with the football cradled in his arms.

11 posted on 02/10/2008 2:25:55 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

the media turn on McCain now begins ... how will he deal with it?


12 posted on 02/10/2008 2:27:56 PM PST by bluebeak
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To: kjo
The rest of the world is just noticing McCain has a crazy side?

"When I got angry I held my breath until I blacked out."

Kimmie of the Norks better be on notice, I tell you...

Wasn't it Fred Barnes who suggested we might have a better times with our adversaries because Johnny Mac is unpredictable? Of course Ahmadnejad might want those virgins pronto, and might be encouraged to try something stupid....
13 posted on 02/10/2008 2:28:31 PM PST by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: brytlea

I think deportation of millions of people, is the worst thing for any conservative or libertarian to propose. You’ll end up with an enormous police state. So while we need to build a fence to prevent future illegals from coming in, we have to figure out a non-coercive solution for the millions that have already managed to enter.


14 posted on 02/10/2008 2:31:41 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

McCain is the liberal that liberals can live with. *grin*


15 posted on 02/10/2008 2:32:24 PM PST by CalifChris
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To: GregoTX

“McCain is right on a few things, wrong on most.”

Correction. He is wrong on a few things, right on most. He is right on:
1) Right to Life
2) Government spending
3) National Defense
4) Judicial Nominations

Those three broad issues overshadow the rest and make it easy to support him. When Bush was nominated, he had no experience in national security, his judicial appointments were not all that encouraging (he had put Gonzalez on the Texas Supreme Court), he was squishy on abortion and not known as a fiscal conservative.

McCain’s record an all these issues is much better than Bush’s. He has voted for every GOP judicial nomination in the last 2 decade including Bork, Thomas, Alito and Roberts.His record on right to life is virtually spotless. And he has opposed many pork barrel spending escapades, including the prescription drug benefit and the Highway bill (both of which cost a combined $1.5 Trillion) which Bush by the way supported. True, he has been wrong on issues such as CFR (which Bush signed) and Immigration (which Bush pushed as hard as he did).

His main apostasy was his opposition to the measly temporary Bush tax cut of 4.6%, which he opposed because it lacked ANY spending restraints. Fair enough. He now wants to make it permanent. I give him a pass on this because of his past votes for the massive Reagan tax cuts in 1981 and 1986 (the latter being a rate cut of 22%) and for his votes AGAINST the BUSH TAX INCREASE of 1990 and the Clinton tax increase of 1993.

Limbaugh et al were willing to give George W. Bush the benefit of the doubt in 2000 in spite of his father’s big “Read my Lips “ tax hike, and the big property tax hike he pushed through the Texas legislature as Governor. Yet, he will not extend the same benefit of the doubt to McCain.


16 posted on 02/10/2008 2:36:26 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: BigEdLB

great...we’re going to interview his kindergarten teacher?
It will be tough for the media to paint him as a nasty guy if Hillary and other democrats are on record stating that he is a friend and works well with them.

It also means that Hillary will lose the nomination.


17 posted on 02/10/2008 2:36:52 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“Rage seems to be at the core of his personality. Describing his own childhood, McCain has written: ‘At the smallest provocation I would go off into a mad frenzy, and then suddenly crash to the floor unconscious. When I got angry I held my breath until I blacked out.’”

My opinion that McCain is unstable is well documented here....heck where ever I go.

But I want to know where and when McCain actually admitted let alone wrote this.

18 posted on 02/10/2008 2:38:57 PM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Brices Crossroads

don’t forget contract with america.
I predict a big surprise. He is being “educated” on taxes and will propose a complete overhaul of the tax code.


19 posted on 02/10/2008 2:39:12 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

and for his votes AGAINST the BUSH TAX INCREASE of 1990
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see? that just proves he is not loyal to the GOP! traitor! /sarc


20 posted on 02/10/2008 2:41:22 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: ari-freedom
we have to figure out a non-coercive solution for the millions that have already managed to enter.

Making them unable to earn money to buy food might work and then we could leave a trail of chorizo to the border.

21 posted on 02/10/2008 2:42:43 PM PST by Stentor
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To: ari-freedom

In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.-
Theodore Roosevelt


22 posted on 02/10/2008 2:47:28 PM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Good Post


23 posted on 02/10/2008 2:49:57 PM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

John McCain is a formidable candidate and I will support him in November. He just needs to choose a really good conservative running mate.


24 posted on 02/10/2008 2:51:05 PM PST by No Dems 2004
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To: Cicero

Soon all the world will know McCain isn’t the sort we want in charge. Watch and soon even his most ardent followers will urge him to step down.


25 posted on 02/10/2008 2:56:49 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: ari-freedom
It also means that Hillary will lose the nomination.

That may be happening
Maine Caucus 59% in
Obama 1,305 57%
Clinton 956 42%
uncommitted 16 1%
per CNN

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#ME

Coupled with what happened yesterday
26 posted on 02/10/2008 3:04:59 PM PST by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: Stentor

Don’t give them welfare but they probably won’t leave because the economic opportunity over here even without welfare is much much better than what they can get in mexico. This will be a matter of time and attrition but first you have to build the border.


27 posted on 02/10/2008 3:05:23 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: kjo

Read the article more carefully. The thesis of the article is anti-McCain or that he’s “crazy” wholly in terms of those aspects of his views that are actually conservative.


28 posted on 02/10/2008 3:09:20 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: BigEdLB

and he will get virginia and maryland


29 posted on 02/10/2008 3:09:40 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“The truth is that McCain is the candidate we should most fear,” writes Hari, a columnist for The Independent in Britain, in an article that appeared in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. “Not only is he to the right of Bush on a whole range of subjects, he is also the Republican candidate most likely to dispense with Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.”

If I actually thought this was true, I might like McCain better.

30 posted on 02/10/2008 3:11:27 PM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
John McCain will provide us with ample opportunity to make fun of politicians. That's about all I'm able to look forward too.

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31 posted on 02/10/2008 3:12:37 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

the real liberals...they know that mccain is very conservative. It really bothers them because people like Rush and Ann Coulter positioned him so that he looks like a moderate or almost a democrat


32 posted on 02/10/2008 3:13:17 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: ari-freedom

LOL McCain hates “torture” once we capture someone. But, if there is a “take no prisoners” policy.... They make it sound like the “authoroties” better have plenty of virgins ready to go in the Islamofascist afterworld....


33 posted on 02/10/2008 3:17:52 PM PST by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

his credentials as a “bipartisan progressive”

The liberals call themselves “progressives”

Is McCain reaching across the aisle from our side...

Or reaching across the aisle to us from their side...?????


34 posted on 02/10/2008 3:20:17 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

McCain scares me.

Obama and Hillary scare me more.


35 posted on 02/10/2008 3:25:36 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Once more anyone who wants to secure the border is characterized as "hating immigrants." I want the border secured to keep out illegal immigrants, but I have nothing against legal immigrants.

After church this morning I was talking to a conservative Republican woman. She asked another woman, a Democrat, what she thought of McCain and the other woman said "he'd just be another four years of Bush." Turns out her candidate had been Edwards.

36 posted on 02/10/2008 3:26:25 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

he doesn’t hate immigrants”

Yes, he does...

McCain is anti-immigration and pro-illegal aliens


37 posted on 02/10/2008 3:31:01 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Brices Crossroads
Correction. He is wrong on a few things, right on most. He is right on: 1) Right to Life

He was correct to silence Wisconsin Right to Life?

3) National Defense

Throwing open our borders will sure make this country safer, won't it?

4) Judicial Nominations

He was correct to prevent a rule change that would have required the Senate to actually carry out its duty?

38 posted on 02/10/2008 3:34:31 PM PST by supercat
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To: Kakaze
Using a newslibrary.com I found this was printed in USA Today on November 2, 1999:
Before he was 2 years old, Arizona Sen. John McCain writes in his new family memoir, he developed "an outsized temper" that caused him to "go off in a mad frenzy and then, suddenly, crash to the floor unconscious." The doctor told his parents the problem was self-induced: "When I got angry I held my breath until I blacked out."

39 posted on 02/10/2008 3:35:01 PM PST by faq
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To: faq

WoW...Thank you.


40 posted on 02/10/2008 3:47:29 PM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: supercat

“He was correct to silence Wisconsin Right to Life?”

This is over Campaign Finance Reform. You equate that with votes in favor of Bork, Thomas, Alito and Roberts; opposition to Partial Birth Abortion; Votes against Federal Funding of Abortion; Votes in favor of the Mexico City policy; votes against abortion on military facilities, and on and on. Talk about straining out the gnat and swallowing the camel.

“Throwing open our borders will sure make this country safer, won’t it?”

McCain says he is going to secure the borders first. You may choose to disbelieve him, but remember, Bush supported the same bill. If Bush could run for reelection, would you throw him under the bus on this issue?

“He was correct to prevent a rule change that would have required the Senate to actually carry out its duty?”

That rule change, the nuclear option, would have been a good thing. However, the only thing worse than not changing th rule was to ATTEMPT to change the rule and FAIL. To change the rule, you needed 50 votes plus Cheney. That meant you would have to rely on at least one of the following: Snowe, Collins, Lincoln Chafee, Arlen Specter and John Warner, and Mike Dewine. Every one of them was squishy on the nuclear option and if it had failed, it would have meant that the Dems could have filibustered Roberts and Alito (not to mention the excellent Appeals Court Judges Janice Rogers Brown, Bill Pryor and Priscilla Owen, who were confirmed under the compromise.) Yet this is enough to make you cut McCain loose as far as reliability on judicial nominees is concerned. If Hillary or Obama is elected, we will need a lot more than a filibuster to block the kinds of judges they will appoint.


41 posted on 02/10/2008 4:03:57 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Then in September 2000, McCain spoke on the Senate floor against what he called the “staggering” cost the federal government faced in helping stage the Games.
“The American taxpayer is being shaken down to the tune of nearly a billion and a half dollars,” McCain declared.
He vowed to “do everything in my power” to delay or kill “this pork-barrel spending,” the Los Angeles Times reported.
Romney responded by arguing that taxpayers would need to provide only $250 million, and said he was “quite confident” the Games would receive the funding they needed.
In early 2001, McCain sought to shift $30 million from the Treasury Department, earmarked for law enforcement personnel at the Olympics, to the Pentagon, but the measure was defeated.
Romney, in his 2004 book “Turnaround,” wrote that McCain and others in the Senate were threatening to revoke the tax deductibility of corporate sponsorship, which would “nail the coffin of the Salt Lake Olympics and future Games.”
The clash over Olympics spending, “which dragged on for two years, helps explain some of the acrimony that now characterizes the race between the two front-runners for the Republican presidential nomination,” the Times observed.
In the end, the federal tab — not including construction or improvement of highways, transit systems, and other infrastructure — totaled about $400 million, and the Games were a financial success.
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McCain was right about this

How can something be a “financial success” if it costs the American taxpaqyers $400 Million ????


42 posted on 02/10/2008 4:07:12 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

both. he wants to listen to conservatives
“We have had a few disagreements, and none of us will pretend that we won’t continue to have a few. But even in disagreement, especially in disagreement, I will seek the counsel of my fellow conservatives. If I am convinced my judgment is in error, I will correct it. And if I stand by my position, even after benefit of your counsel, I hope you will not lose sight of the far more numerous occasions when we are in complete accord.”


43 posted on 02/10/2008 4:16:46 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

the nuclear option would NOT be a good thing. imagine if the democrats are in the WH. We wouldn’t be able to filibuster THEIR radical judicial appointments because we set a precedent. mcCain maintained the stability of the senate and we got Alito and other judges in over a democrat filibuster.


44 posted on 02/10/2008 4:19:09 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: ari-freedom

I think on balance it would have been a good thing because it is consistent with the Constitution, which does not require a 60 vote supermajority to confirm judges. That said, you are correct that it has the downside that it eliminates the filibuster option for the GOP.

In any case, to jettison McCain over this is crazy. IMHO


45 posted on 02/10/2008 4:22:52 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads
McCain says a lot of things depending on who he is talking to. Dig a little deeper and you'll find arguments against the points you've listed. Go right ahead and believe what you will, believe him if you think you must, but he is what he is.

I've voted nothing but republican since I've been able to vote, including for McCain, but not this time. Not again. If he wins, then I hope for the sake of the country and for the reputation of the republican party that I'm wrong. But I won't be wrong twice with my ballot by voting for him again.

46 posted on 02/10/2008 4:28:20 PM PST by GBA ( God Bless America!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Huckabee won big in Kansas

I'd guess the folks in Kansas weren't too happy that McCain is planning to send the Gitmo detainees to Ft. Leavenworth the first day he becomes president.

This summer, Ft. Leavenworth had 450 prisoners. It can hold 500.

Gitmo has over 400 prisoners.

McCain has admitted he doesn't understand the economy. Does McCain understand elementary arithmetic?

47 posted on 02/10/2008 4:54:45 PM PST by syriacus (McCain promises to transfer all Gitmo prisoners to Ft. Leavenworth on his first day as president.)
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To: ari-freedom
the nuclear option would NOT be a good thing. imagine if the democrats are in the WH. We wouldn’t be able to filibuster THEIR radical judicial appointments because we set a precedent.

Why wouldn't the Democrats set the precedent themselves?

They've been willing to do almost everything else to get their way.

48 posted on 02/10/2008 4:57:35 PM PST by syriacus (McCain promises to transfer all Gitmo prisoners to Ft. Leavenworth on his first day as president.)
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To: ari-freedom
We wouldn’t be able to filibuster THEIR radical judicial appointments because we set a precedent.

(1) When have the Republicans ever even tried to filibuster a judicial nominee? (2) In the unlikely event that Republicans do mount a filibuster, what makes you think the Democrats won't change the rules to prevent it?

49 posted on 02/10/2008 5:15:25 PM PST by supercat
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To: ari-freedom
No they have to go. No quarter! Deport, prosecute businesses that employ them, no welfare, no support, no hospital treatments for free. Make their very existence here a living hell till they leave.
50 posted on 02/10/2008 5:20:54 PM PST by packrat35
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