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Obama Up Almost 3-2 Over Hillary In Maine With 58% Reporting. Incredible!
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Posted on 02/10/2008 3:12:12 PM PST by MindBender26

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To: Eva

The worst part about it is that Obama really excites the young people.
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Heh Heh Heh ... that’s easy to solve ... just schedule all your young DEM supporters to work overtime 7A-7P on election day....


151 posted on 02/10/2008 4:45:03 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: isrul

And a few of them who can’t bear the idea of the Beast taking up residence on Pennsylvania Avenue either.


152 posted on 02/10/2008 4:45:08 PM PST by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: F15Eagle

“The difference (sadly) between McCain and Hillary isn’t all that much.”

You have got to be kidding!!!!!!!! Where were you during the Clinton Administration??


153 posted on 02/10/2008 4:46:13 PM PST by acoulterfan
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To: F15Eagle

“We are planting the seeds for this exact scenario.”

We didn’t plant those seeds... the mainstream media did. They planted them, then dumped 15 tons of SUPER-REDI-GROW on top of them, then found all those pesky little weeds (like Thompson, Hunter and... yes, Romney) and stomped them into oblivion.


154 posted on 02/10/2008 4:46:40 PM PST by Pravious
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

I guess the truth hurts Hillary. “Pimping Chelsea”, Sounds like a good movie title.


155 posted on 02/10/2008 4:47:48 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Neidermeyer

Yes, but, I’d rather her than obama. They already consider him the Almighty, which is dangerous grounds as far as I’m concerned.

It would be easier to stop her social agendas, in my opinion, than his.

Remember, just about everyone dislikes her, even the people who like her!


156 posted on 02/10/2008 4:48:11 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: MindBender26

Maine was supposed to be an easy win for the beast.


157 posted on 02/10/2008 4:48:29 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Pravious

“We didn’t plant those seeds... the mainstream media did. They planted them, then dumped 15 tons of SUPER-REDI-GROW on top of them, then found all those pesky little weeds (like Thompson, Hunter and... yes, Romney) and stomped them into oblivion.

OMG - You are SOOOOOOOOOO Correct !!!


158 posted on 02/10/2008 4:48:39 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: Jim Noble
But he is not at the head of a revolutionary long-term project with international connections and thousands of ready-to-go commissars. She is.

Its hard to tell which would be worse. He's more charismatic than her, more able to sooth the people into accepting his plans. She's from one of the most corrupt administrations in history (and I'm including all of human history)

159 posted on 02/10/2008 4:49:39 PM PST by PapaBear3625
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To: PA-RIVER
"So we need to take a long term view, and not get too upset. Elections wont always go our way. By and large, we can hold on to our principles. Sound principles dont go out of style"

Just needed to be in bold.

160 posted on 02/10/2008 4:50:36 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
rather be clebrating her nomination.

I agree. I think she would be easier to beat and if elected easier to stop. He is such a good talker, gives one heck of a speech, he will get a lot of people behind him. Oh the line about him not saying anything...BFD, he doesn't have too as any more it isn't what is said it how it is said.

161 posted on 02/10/2008 4:50:58 PM PST by engrpat
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To: acoulterfan

Bill is a snake charmer, hill is not. Gigantic difference between a bill presidency than a hill presidency.


162 posted on 02/10/2008 4:52:38 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: MindBender26

It’s bitter sweet! She would be the easiest one to beat in the general.


163 posted on 02/10/2008 4:53:06 PM PST by freemike
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To: NoGrayZone

True - But if Hill got in, Bill would be right by her & co-running our Country !!


164 posted on 02/10/2008 4:54:16 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: NoGrayZone

Bill is a snake charmer, hill is not. Gigantic difference between a bill presidency than a hill presidency.

They will come as a team! There is not difference between a Hill Presidency and a Bill Presidency!

They want to invalidate the impeachment by being voted back into office.


165 posted on 02/10/2008 4:54:56 PM PST by acoulterfan
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To: Alter Kaker
My daughter went to the caucus here in our small town. She's a first time voter

Obama won 18 - 11. My wife went as well, although she doesn't vote as a resident alien.

They both said that even before the room divided to vote you could tell the Clinton people. They were in-your-face professional women. There were only 2 men for Clinton.

They described the Obama voters as 'alternative' types, but they spoke with reason and objectivity. They were more impressed by the Obama supporters.

Brunswick, Lewiston and Waterville have the Little Ivy colleges, and Lewiston and Waterville have hospitals as well. There is a high percentage of professionals in those towns. I spend a lot of time in Waterville and the Colby people I overheard seemed to be supporting Clinton.

It seems like the demographic nationally I've read about is holding out here.

I agree with you about the Somali influence in Lewiston. There isn't any. The professionals there will go for Clinton.

166 posted on 02/10/2008 4:55:02 PM PST by longjack
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To: longjack
There were only 2 men for Clinton.

With or without their wymin keeping a very close eye on them?

167 posted on 02/10/2008 5:00:38 PM PST by null and void (President Hillary!™ Clinton? Time to invest in body bags. Again...)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

No way!!! She would tell bill to go eff himself in a hot second!!! She would have got what she wanted all along, why do you think she stayed with him throughout all his hokey pokey?

I don’t think hill knows how to connect. That is why I want to see her get the democrat nom. When she swears in, I guarantee, not to much time later, she will leak things about bill that we don’t know of yet. She will play the “martyred” wife who could take no more to gain sympathy to get her social agenda passed.

Only we know better....I hope!


168 posted on 02/10/2008 5:01:22 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: acoulterfan

See 168....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1968221/posts?page=168#168


169 posted on 02/10/2008 5:02:42 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: proudpapa

I am so torn on this. I want Obama to slap Hillary down; but at the same time, I think Hillary is the only candidate that we can beat in the general election. Should we be celebrating this?


170 posted on 02/10/2008 5:02:48 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: zeebee
"She needs to steal the nomination then convince H. Obama to be her running mate."

LOL! ..."Driving Miss Daisy!" Oh, yeah, that'll work! LOL!
171 posted on 02/10/2008 5:03:22 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: null and void

“wymin”

{{snicker}}


172 posted on 02/10/2008 5:04:01 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: NoGrayZone
She will play the “martyred” wife who could take no more to gain sympathy to get her social agenda passed.

Maybe. I think it's equally likely that she will go for the sympathy vote as 'the widder clinton'...

173 posted on 02/10/2008 5:05:07 PM PST by null and void (President Hillary!™ Clinton? Time to invest in body bags. Again...)
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To: Junior_G

“Should we be celebrating this?”

Hell no!


174 posted on 02/10/2008 5:05:16 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Sure.

You can laugh.

You never met my ex...


175 posted on 02/10/2008 5:06:26 PM PST by null and void (President Hillary!™ Clinton? Time to invest in body bags. Again...)
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To: null and void

Hmmmm, either way, we know she’ll be using bill for some kind of martyrdom. Exactly how that plays out, not sure. But I sure as heck want to see it!

With that said, I have no doubt if hill is elected, we can stall any of her agenda she tries to pass and buy us enough time to get a good conservative for 2012. Don’t forget 2010. If we allow her to try to pass her crap, people will turn against her!

And I would find the theatrical “plays” quite amusing.


176 posted on 02/10/2008 5:10:25 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: null and void

Lol, sorry, don’t mean to laugh. Want me to kick her a** for you?


177 posted on 02/10/2008 5:11:41 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: F15Eagle

Obama will not push for an immediate withdrawal (though he should!). Both he and Hillary had pledged to keep troops in the country to “fight terrorism.” Obama may pull some out....perhaps to send to Darfur but don’t expect a major change in our bi-partisan foreign policy.


178 posted on 02/10/2008 5:12:16 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: NoGrayZone

Nope. Living well is the bestest revenge...


179 posted on 02/10/2008 5:13:10 PM PST by null and void (President Hillary!™ Clinton? Time to invest in body bags. Again...)
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To: Junior_G

Quit being conflicted. McCain will lose whether it is Hillary or Obama. The only question is the margin of defeat.


180 posted on 02/10/2008 5:13:58 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

I don’t want my troops in Darfur. Although, you are probably correct, he will TRY. I will do whatever is in my power to stop it.


181 posted on 02/10/2008 5:14:28 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001
"I THINK Hillary lost the race by WAY OVERREACTING to the “pimping out Chelsea” comment..."

Yes, LiveFree. There are alot of 27 year olds that today voted for Obama, possibly in part because they smelled a rat in Hillary's "outrage" for her *daughter*.

They probably realize, in being able to age-wise put themselves in Chelsea's shoes, that for their mom to insist on being such a RAGGING OLD BAG to make such a STINK about something like the off-the-cuff and much APOLOGIZED-about "pimp" quip, is an unthinkable embarrassment for a mother to do. Fer cryin' out loud the ragging old bag publicly called for that Shuster guy's HEAD. Imagine if you were a twenty-something and your mother did that.

I just think that in being able to put themselves in Chelsea's shoes, they were able to see what REALLY "outraged" Hillary--which was that the Shuster comment was directed toward HILLARY AND BILL, and not Chelsea. Hillary is a psycho-angry scary-lady.

Those Maine young-uns that voted today have at least half a brain to be able to see that. :-)

182 posted on 02/10/2008 5:15:07 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: null and void

You still single? Just curious. =)


183 posted on 02/10/2008 5:15:32 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: BunkDetector
I’d guess McCain would beat Hill by 3 percentage points but he’d lose to Obama by 8...maybe more.

I'm not quite so pessimistic about a race against Obama for three reasons.

First, the Clintons are incredibly vindictive. If Obama wins the nomination, expect the Clintons to do everything they can behind the scenes to undermine Obama's campaign. Hillary would be a factor in 2012, particularly if she benefits from the remorse vote of the Democrats who feel they lost the election only because the party nominated the wrong person.

Second, John McCain may not be popular with most conservatives but he is with independents who just want government to work and don't obsess over political ideology. The latter group is probably larger in today's voting population than the former. To a degree, the more conservatives grouse about McCain, the more the independents like him.

Third, Obama can be shown to be an empty suit. While a large portion of the Democrat Party is swooning over Obama, I'm not sure that the general election voters will be after closely examining him. A lot of the heavy lifting on the destruction of Obama will probably be done by the Clintons before the convention. McCain and the Republicans will only need to build on this.

Although the polls don't show it now, I think that Obama will be easier to beat than Clinton.

184 posted on 02/10/2008 5:17:23 PM PST by CommerceComet (Mitt Romney: Boldly telling the audience whatever it wants to hear.)
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To: Captain Kirk

Not exactly a ray of sunshine, but it’ll help me stop worrying about it.


185 posted on 02/10/2008 5:18:44 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: mtbopfuyn
I'd rather be celebrating her nomination

I undestand. The real danger with Obama is that he is hardcore leftwinger, and we really don't know who is behind him. Who does this will-o-the-wisp, who came out of nowhere with his 100 million dollars, really front for?

186 posted on 02/10/2008 5:20:35 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: proudpapa

>>Don’t celebrate until he has won the nomination!

He will be a lot tougher to beat than Hitlery. Mark my words.


187 posted on 02/10/2008 5:22:34 PM PST by oblomov (Today's GOP brings to mind Nietzsche's statement, "When something is slipping, push it!")
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To: Alter Kaker

Shhh. If you use logic or demand evidence, you lose points with a lot of folks. Not to say that fraud never occurs, but there is a subset here who believes that at every election phantom busses appear and disgorge thousands of out-of-staters, illegal aliens, somalis, or whatever, who storm the voting places by the tens of thousands (as opposed to a couple here and there, which in a few thousand precincts can add up to a crucial amount if the election is a percent or so).


188 posted on 02/10/2008 5:23:21 PM PST by BohDaThone
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To: Junior_G; All

Calm down everybody: No need to panic.

Obama opposed the surge.
Obama opposed John Roberts.
Obama opposed Sam Alito.

His list of accomplishments is underwhelming. Yes, he makes fine speeches and has a nice smile. But he’s also the most liberal senator.

And it will be impossible for the left to paint McCain as the evil conservative because he just isn’t that conservative.

A lot of whites and latinos will be asking themselves: Do I really want to vote for a young, black guy with no major accomplishments who has made no great sacrifices or do I want to vote for an independant, war hero, republican who has a history of reaching across the aisle in a bi-partisan fashion.

McCain represents the safe vote. He will appeal to many reagan democrats, moderates, veterans, and by default, conservatives who have no where else to go.

Don’t be stymied by polls that show Obama beating McCain. These polls are always tainted with over sampling in urban areas.


189 posted on 02/10/2008 5:23:23 PM PST by proudpapa (May God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: oblomov

I mark your words and raise them a hundred billion dollars!


190 posted on 02/10/2008 5:24:13 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: mass55th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHVMxBkW0CQ


191 posted on 02/10/2008 5:27:42 PM PST by oblomov (Today's GOP brings to mind Nietzsche's statement, "When something is slipping, push it!")
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To: proudpapa

Not buying what the MSM is putting out there, just what I’m hearing from everyday folk I come across. They think obama is the “next coming”. THEY are the ones listening to the MSM and believing it.


192 posted on 02/10/2008 5:27:42 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I wonder how all those Somali’s in Lewiston voted?

This is not the way it works in Maine. This is not a primary where voters duty up their vote. This is more of a one or two day dress rehersal,popular votes you are seeing. Means nothing.

Democrats in 420 Maine cities and towns decide how the state's 24 delegates will be allotted at the (D)party's national convention in August..

GOP race a week earlier also helped the interest in the Maine Republicans nonbinding caucuses, (16, I believe) which were won by Mitt Romney who "suspended" his run and still holds on to the delegates he paid for..

The Republicans do not play this pretend vote. The Republican candidates were also more a no show at the caucus a week or so ago, with family or supporters speaking for them. Collins who spoke for McCain and also said Romney would be a good choice. Paul drove through Maine earlier in that week. Candidates seeking state offices and to federal were the shows. Sen. Collins is running against Tom Allen (D) who was just bought for almost $400 million by MoveOn.org. Hey, MoveOn is the one who says they own the Democrats and from their premise, they must own "Barry" Obama, Jr. too..

All and all the Republican energy is really lacking during this caucus--in fact can be pretty down right boring so not a big turn out for them, while the Democrats go all out and party; and even as a Conservative one gets a change to hear the chosen ones speak with an enthusiastic audience in support. Summary: Republicans do not know how to throw a party to get new people to even show interest, say even come to their political events/caucus.

Also, Obama lost Massachusetts which was Kennedy-Kerry territory. Obama in Maine was preaching the super delegate game. Clinton was having no part of it.

Clinton packed the Lewiston Memorial Auditorium which is Bates College territory. Obama was at the University of Maine Orono which has a larger number of students and Chelsea was at Colby another smaller college in Waterville. Clinton's focus has been on women and that is what the majority makeup of her Maine audience was. Obama focus was on the college age. 17 year olds were urged by both candidates to take part in the caucus. The youth and women attendance was heavy in number.

There are 1.2 million citizens in Maine As of Jan. 15, 2008, Maine had 997,844 voters — 899,831 "active" voters and 98,013 "inactive" voters- Deputy Secretary of State Julie Flynn. Of the active voters, 253,319 are Republicans, 281,234 Democrats, 25,522 Green Independents and 339,756 are unenrolled.

Some townes like Kittery's Clerk says: "people are switching from one major party to another, and many unenrolled voters are coming in to register for one of the major parties for the first time.

Democrats drew the enthusiast crowds. The Republicans were *wake me when it's over*. I know, I attended both.

193 posted on 02/10/2008 5:32:46 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: hinckley buzzard

http://www.dailyspeculations.com/wordpress/?p=1373

The religious imagery surrounding Obama is very disturbing. And what should I make of this demonic liturgy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY

Chilling.


194 posted on 02/10/2008 5:36:18 PM PST by oblomov (Today's GOP brings to mind Nietzsche's statement, "When something is slipping, push it!")
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To: NoGrayZone

Oddly enough, I am...


195 posted on 02/10/2008 5:41:33 PM PST by null and void (President Hillary!™ Clinton? Time to invest in body bags. Again...)
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To: null and void

Good, so if I flirt, I won’t be committing a sin!


196 posted on 02/10/2008 5:48:27 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: oblomov

Thanks for the link. I remember when Julie London recorded that song.


197 posted on 02/10/2008 5:48:46 PM PST by mass55th
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To: MindBender26

Obama is going to be screwed over by the DNC. Just watch.


198 posted on 02/10/2008 5:50:09 PM PST by Cosmo (Liberalism is for girls)
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To: oblomov

“And what should I make of this demonic liturgy?”

Exactly what it is....demonic liturgy.


199 posted on 02/10/2008 5:51:02 PM PST by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: NoGrayZone

True.

We can work on sins later...

};^P


200 posted on 02/10/2008 5:51:11 PM PST by null and void (President Hillary!™ Clinton? Time to invest in body bags. Again...)
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