Posted on 02/10/2008 6:54:00 PM PST by RangerM
LYNCHBURG, VA. -- “I always cringe when I hear people talk about throwing away the vote when they vote their conscience,” Mike Huckabee told reporters today. “That’s what voting is – voting is voting with your conscience, it’s voting with your convictions.”
Earlier, he spoke at Thomas Road Baptist Church, the pulpit of the late Dr. Jerry Falwell. Lacing together the relationship between religion and state, he delivered a short speech about how moral clarity decreases the need for more government and more law.
“Frankly, we really don’t need a lot of law if we are people of morality,” he said to the congregation of over 7,000. “There are only ten basic laws that we need. If you think about it, the Ten Commandments cover it all.”
“The reason law gets more complicated is because we try to figure out clever ways around those ten,” he said to applause.
Huckabee cautioned that a lack of moral clarity would result in “paying for more and more government to overwhelm us with direction when our own personal freedom and conscience does not.”
“And that’s why I stand here today, not to make a political statement but to make one I hope you will hear," he said. "That what happens in this church every Sunday, what is spoken from this pulpit every week, what comes forth from the word of God is not a disconnected message from whether or not we will continue to be a free and great nation because the day our nation quits listening to God and the day we no longer have moral clarity, is the day that we will have to have increasing levels of government and law to restrain us because then our own consciences will not. ”
“I hope you know Jesus Christ personally…because the level to which he rules you and governs you, you need less and less of man’s law to tell you how to live and that is what our Founding Fathers understood and we must understand.”
His brand of Christianity is HUMANISM.
Here’s an example:
Huckabee promotes ‘open door’ policy at LULAC convention
Thursday, Jun 30, 2005
By Wesley Brown
Arkansas News Bureau
LITTLE ROCK - In a impassioned speech before hundreds of influential Hispanic civil rights leaders from across the nation, Gov. Mike Huckabee told a captive audience Wednesday that America is great because it has always opened it doors up to people seeking a better way of life.
“Do unto others as you would have others do unto you,” Huckabee said, citing the Golden Rule. “I have tried to govern that way and it stands to reason that I really do believe that what made this great country so great and so unique is that it has always been a place for people to run to - and not run from.
“I would hope that no matter who we are, or where we are from, that America should always be a place that opens its arms, opens it heart, opens its spirit to people who come because they want the best for their families ...,” Huckabee said as the largely Hispanic audience gave him a standing ovation.
Huckabee was the keynote speaker, along with Tyson Foods Inc. Chairman and CEO John Tyson, at a noon luncheon of the League of United Latin American Citizens, which is holding its 76th annual convention in Little Rock.
About 10,000 political, community and business leaders, along with exhibitors and speakers are in Little Rock attending the convention at the Statehouse Convention Center. The convention started Monday and runs through Saturday.
Although he never actually talked about the U.S. or Arkansas immigration policy, Huckabee made it very clear where he stood on the issue. In his opening remarks, he said the nation will need to address the concerns of the Hispanic community because of its growing influence and population base.
“Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority,” Huckabee said jokingly as the crowd roared in laughter.
He told the LULAC delegates that their presence in the state’s capital city was very important because Arkansas has one of the fastest growing Hispanic populations in the nation.
“Your gathering is so very significant for our state,” Huckabee said. “We are delighted to have you.”
Despite several light moments, Huckabee did not stray away from several controversial issues that made him a target of criticism during the recently ended 85th General Assembly. He said Arkansas needs to make the transition from a traditional Southern state to one that recognizes and cherishes diversity “in culture, in language and in population.”
“This is an issue that is going to require extraordinary efforts on both sides of the border, particularly those coming from Mexico,” Huckabee said of verifying the status of illegal aliens. “But I am confident that our government will recognize that we should accommodate people who wish to provide the best opportunities for their families (and) employers so that we can make sure our economy has the necessary work force.”
During the legislation session, Huckabee criticized an immigration bill by Republican senators Jim Holt of Springdale and Denny Altes of Fort Smith as un-Christian, un-American, irresponsible and anti-life.
Senate Bill 206, which died in the Senate, would have required proof of citizenship to register to vote and also force state agencies to report suspected cases of people living in the country illegally. Holt, R-Springdale, replied later to Huckabee’s comments that Christian charity does not include turning a blind eye to lawbreaking.
The Republican governor, who many believe will run for president in 2008, also backed legislation that would have opened the door for illegal immigrants in Arkansas to receive college scholarships.
House Bill 1525 by Rep. Joyce Elliott, D-Little Rock, was approved by the House but eventually failed in the Senate. Huckabee reiterated Wednesday that he believes every child, regardless of their parent’s immigration status, should have an opportunity to receive an education in the U.S.
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http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/06/30/News/323746.html
The “Golden Rule” is NOT applicable to ILLEGAL immigration!We have LAWS to protect us. Immigration laws PROTECT us. It is WRONG to purposely twist the Golden Rule for POLITCAL GAIN as Huckabee is doing. He’s using RELIGION as a WEAPON. It’s WRONG.
“I’d think everyone would agree that he is a good communicator.”
All conmen are “good communicators” or else they couldn’t con anyone.
An interesting view. What exactly did he con you out of?
And who else in the current crop of candidates is better?
You sure do type fast. </sarc>
Huckabee is trying to con us out of any chance of having a Republican president.
Much as I detest McCain ( but will vote for him in Nov, I’d even vote for the devil himself, if he ran against Hillarobama), Huckabee is more dishonest and by far far more liberal than McCain. He gives Republicans a bad name.
Conservatives seem to do no research, they just flock to him because he is a preacher, forgetting that we are supposed to be electing a Commander in Chief, NOT a preacher-in-chief — not to mention that he would be beaten by a landslide by either Hillary or Obama.
A vote for Huckabee is indeed a vote for the Dems.
“There are only ten basic laws that we need...”
Plus two constitutional amendments.
Right, Huck?
Here’s a thought:
While it is extremely unlikely that Huckabee can garner the delagates to achieve the magic 1191, it IS possible to prevent McCain from doing so.
Result = Brokered Convention; and neither McCain or Huckabee get the nod.
Now make no mistake that I want Huckabee to win, but since you “detest McCain”, I’d think you’d be out there everyday talking him up, just so you get your wish of “Dead-Man-Walking-Thompson” or “I’ll-do-a-backflip-Romney” in a brokered convention.
A vote for Huckabee can be whatever you want it to be, mine is a vote for Huckabee.
You either didn’t read or didn’t comprehend.
Follow God’s law, and man’s law is superfluous.
I let the FACTS speak for themselves.
We’re not fooled by Mike Huckabee.
You go, girl(s).
Huck makes up the rules along the way.
Here’s another example of how “tough” Mike is on crime:
Web special: Dumond case revisited
A reminder of Huckabee’s role in his freedom
Arkansas Staff
Updated 9/1/2005
Editor’s note, Sept. 1, 2005: Wayne Dumond, convicted of rape in Arkansas and murder in Missouri, died of apparent natural causes in prison Tuesday.
The occasion prompts us to republish Murray Waas’ prize-winning article for the Arkansas Times in 2002 about the extraordinary steps Gov. Mike Huckabee took to help win Dumond’s freedom. He has since blamed others for Dumond’s release to kill again, but his actions over many years demonstrated his support for Dumond and, ultimately, the instrumental role he played in the parole board’s decision to free him.
Special handling
How the Huckabee administration worked to free rapist Wayne Dumond.
By Murray S. Waas
“I signed the [parole] papers because the governor wanted Dumond paroled. I was thinking the governor was working for the best interests of the state.”
—Ermer Pondexter, ex-member of the board of pardons and paroles
New sources, including an advisor to Gov. Mike Huckabee, have told the Arkansas Times that Huckabee and a senior member of his staff exerted behind-the-scenes influence to bring about the parole of rapist Wayne Dumond, who Missouri authorities say raped and killed a woman there shortly after his parole.
Huckabee has denied a role in Dumond’s release, which has become an issue in his race for re-election against Democrat Jimmie Lou Fisher. Fisher says Huckabee’s advocacy of Dumond’s freedom, plus other acts of executive clemency, exhibit poor judgment. In response, Huckabee has shifted responsibility for Dumond’s release to others, claiming former Gov. Jim Guy Tucker made Dumond eligible for parole and saying the Post Prison Transfer Board made the decision on its own to free Dumond.
More here:
http://www.arktimes.com/Articles/ArticleViewer.aspx?ArticleID=154e1aad-fd18-4efd-8d80-b5dab8559419
He’s soft on punishment. He DIRECTLY INTERFERES on punishment and another person was murdered. THIS is from his OWN PAPER.
Yes, the archives have the FACTS on Mike. He’s NOT what he pretends to be. DOn’t be fooled!
You’re welcome.
There are a few of us (Huckabee voters) around FR, even if we aren’t the most welcomed.
I’m just glad I haven’t voted for him yet, so hopefully I’ll get the chance.
Keep them coming. You’re doing great!
First of all a brokered convention has a zero probability — but if it were to happen, whoever the nominee would be, he would be in such weak position, the Republicans having squandered any possible political capital, that should such a situation occur, the Democrat candidate would carry all 50 states and the Dems would end up with an overwhelming, and more than filibuster proof majority — thanks to the conservatives.
If conservatives couldn’t manage to come up in the last two years with a candidate to be their leader, what makes you think they could come up with anyone at the brokered convention.
If they had engaged in strategic thinking during the past couple of years, we wouldn’t be where we are today. The conservative disunity was what resulted in McCain becoming the frontrunner.
Look up the TRUTH about Huckabee from the archives.
Mike LIES like a rug.
http://www.arkansasnews.com/search/index.html
Read it for yourself. Just type in Huckabee for the dates he was Governor. It’s hair raising!
Some more little tidbits on Mike:
Web special: Dumond case revisited
A reminder of Huckabee’s role in his freedom
Arkansas Staff
Updated 9/1/2005
Editor’s note, Sept. 1, 2005: Wayne Dumond, convicted of rape in Arkansas and murder in Missouri, died of apparent natural causes in prison Tuesday.
The occasion prompts us to republish Murray Waas’ prize-winning article for the Arkansas Times in 2002 about the extraordinary steps Gov. Mike Huckabee took to help win Dumond’s freedom. He has since blamed others for Dumond’s release to kill again, but his actions over many years demonstrated his support for Dumond and, ultimately, the instrumental role he played in the parole board’s decision to free him.
Special handling
How the Huckabee administration worked to free rapist Wayne Dumond.
By Murray S. Waas
“I signed the [parole] papers because the governor wanted Dumond paroled. I was thinking the governor was working for the best interests of the state.”
—Ermer Pondexter, ex-member of the board of pardons and paroles
New sources, including an advisor to Gov. Mike Huckabee, have told the Arkansas Times that Huckabee and a senior member of his staff exerted behind-the-scenes influence to bring about the parole of rapist Wayne Dumond, who Missouri authorities say raped and killed a woman there shortly after his parole.
Huckabee has denied a role in Dumond’s release, which has become an issue in his race for re-election against Democrat Jimmie Lou Fisher. Fisher says Huckabee’s advocacy of Dumond’s freedom, plus other acts of executive clemency, exhibit poor judgment. In response, Huckabee has shifted responsibility for Dumond’s release to others, claiming former Gov. Jim Guy Tucker made Dumond eligible for parole and saying the Post Prison Transfer Board made the decision on its own to free Dumond.
More here:
http://www.arktimes.com/Articles/ArticleViewer.aspx?ArticleID=154e1aad-fd18-4efd-8d80-b5dab8559419
It’s not at all like the Huckster is spinning. He lies like a rug.
This is from his OWN home town newspaper.
During his tenure as Governor of Arkansas, [B]Huckabee raised taxes 21 time. Here are some of the tax hikes that this FAUX-CONSERVATIVE Huckabee signed into law:
Sales Tax, 1996 (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 11/07/96)
Gas and Diesel Fuel Taxes, 1999 (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 04/02/99, 04/25/99)
Sales Tax, 2000 (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 09/25/02)
Cigarette Tax, 2001 (Associated Press, 04/02/01)
Nursing Home Bed Tax, 2001 (Associated Press, 06/25/01)
Sales Tax, 2002 (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 11/15/02)
Income Surcharge Tax, 2003 (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 10/09/07)
Tobacco Tax, 2003 (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 10/09/07)
Internet Taxes, 2004 (Bond Buyer, 02/24/04)
A [B]Nursing Home Bed Tax on our frail elderly and most vulnerable citizens, too? [/B]That is just so wrong, utterly uncaring and heartless. And this guy is a [B]former minister[/B], too! What kind of “man of God” is that? Shame on you Mike Huckabee!
Without the Christian Conservative support, Huckabee would sink. He knows it and he’s toting the Bible around to court [B]your [/B]votes. Look at his latest campaign ads. Claims himself to be an “authentic Christian” and a “Christian Leader.” [B]I suppose he’s throwing around the word “authentic” to distinguish himself from the Mormon background of Myth Romney.[/B] Huckabee is what folks would call a “[B]Convenient Christian.” [/B]He claims to be staunchly pro-life, yet he [B]waivers and wants to leave it to the state level:[/B]
(I want abortion abolished at the FEDERAL LEVEL. A human life carries the same weight in any state and I don’t want states to be arbitrary in murdering the unborn.)
MC LEAN, Va., Nov. 25 /Christian Newswire/ — [B]In February 1995, Huckabee supported revising the GOP abortion plank to let states decide their own abortion laws.[/B]
“The issue divides strongly committed pro-life and pro-choice Republicans but is not a central issue to most other Republicans. A possible platform revision long under discussion would say the Republican Party, [B]’unlike the Democratic Party, does not stand for abortion on demand and is basically a pro-life party.’[/B] In the spirit of federalism, the proposed GOP revision also would replace the abortion amendment with a statement saying the issue should be left up to the individual state legislatures to deal with as each sees fit. ‘That’s exactly what we have looked for, and if it’s left up to the states, more of them are going to put some restrictions on abortion,’ Arkansas Lt. Gov. Mike Huckabee said in an interview after appearing on a conference panel yesterday.” (Ralph Z. Hallow, “Conservatives Hold Fire On Abortion,” Washington Times, 2/12/95)
And in an April 2006 interview with the blog “Right Wing News” Huckabee indicated that abortion decisions should be left to the States.
John Hawkins [Right Wing News]: Switching gears again, do you think we should overturn Roe v. Wade?
Mike Huckabee: It would please me because I think Roe v. Wade is based on a real stretch of Constitutional application — that somehow there is a greater privacy issue in the abortion concern — than there is a human life issue — and that the federal government should be making that decision as opposed to states making that decision. So, I’ve never felt that it was a legitimate manner in which to address this and, first of all, it should be [B]left to the states, [/B]the 10th Amendment, but secondly, to somehow believe that the taking of an innocent, unborn human life is about privacy and not about that unborn life is ludicrous. (http://www.rightwingnews.com/interviews/huckabee.php)
Huckabee is just another slick Arkansas governor from Hope using the Bible and passing the donation plate. He is using Christianity in a NEGATIVE way.
If you LIKE ALL THIS -
VOTE FOR MIKE!
We don’t and have NOT nor WILL we vote for Mike!
Doesn't Huckabee know that IRS rules prohibit appearances by white candidates at white churches?
The pulpit is not the place for political rhetoric. Render unto Caesar.
How, IN GOD'S NAME, can he possibly square such a conclusion with his record? He's proposes moral clarity via the involvement of government.
Yes Huckabee's argument can be construed in the guise of his belief that to involve government will create a moral result that would eventually make it unnecessary to involve government. That's convoluted and ultimately delegitimizes his ideas of less government. It's also bare bones hypocrisy.
I can’t possible post ALL the lies Mike states so I leave it up to others to do their own searches on Mike, IF they value TRUTH.
As one of Mike’s “Rangers”, I doubt that you appreciate the TRUTH.
The latest “Ranger” e-mail:
...
Here is what I need from you this afternoon:
1. Make lists of everyone you know in these states and send them an email asking them to vote for our campaign. If they are undecided please tell them to visit our campaign website to learn more about the issues we are fighting for and the kind of grassroots team we have assembled.
If you don’t know anyone living in the District of Columbia, Maryland and Virginia please email or phone people you know nationwide that support my campaign and ask them to get more involved. We need more volunteers, new contributors, and new supporters. Friends contacting friends and convincing them to participate is the secret to our success.
2. If you are a Ranger please email your friends and family and ask them to contribute towards the amount you pledged to raise. If you have already raised what you pledged, please consider boosting your goal. Rangers helped raise over $168,000 since Tuesday, but to compete effectively, over the next days we will need to double and triple that amount.
If you aren’t a Ranger please consider signing up today.
3. Make an immediate contribution of $25 or more today. I’m headed into a meeting with my campaign team now to review our resources and determine just what we need to propel our efforts in these next key states. I’ll drop you a note later today with a summary of our discussion. In the meantime, if at all possible, please make an immediate contribution today.
LOL!
He’s a loser. His base has NO MONEY. They’re looking to get their paws in the collection plate. Anyone with any sense will NOT vote for this fraud.
Keep going. Your “Cut-n-Paste” needs a workout.
Oh BTW, keep this in mind. You already voted for Romney (or said so in another post), and while you sit at home, I can still vote for Huck, which I have every intention of doing.
Mike is a rather screwed up, self serving individual.
The idea is to keep government OUT of “religion”
and keep BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES,
not Mike’s HUMANISTIC principles,
IN government.
Mike won’t win. This is a sad joke.
“Oh BTW, keep this in mind. You already voted for Romney (or said so in another post), and while you sit at home, I can still vote for Huck, which I have every intention of doing.”
Correct.
I voted for the DREADED MORMON!
We see MORE BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES in Mitt than ole Huck who claims to be a Christian. He wasn’t trying to covert anyone to Mormonism or making hp lies about the religion of others.
If you like what you see, and I’m referring to the TRUTH, about Mike, the HUMANIST, then by all means VOTE FOR HIM!!
We will not be voting for McCain either.
Both VIOLATE our Biblical PRINCIPLES.
Your opinion. I don’t dislike Mormons, just that one.
I’ll be voting for Huckabee while you sit at home.
Have a nice day!
Your opinion. I don’t dislike Mormons, just that one.
I’ll be voting for Huckabee while you sit at home.
Have a nice day!
Never said I dislike Mormons.
My, my you must be a quick study of Mike Huckabee.
Mormonism is not Christian however Mitt, the dreaded Mormon espoused more BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES, than
Mike Huckabee or McCain
who CLAIM to be Christians.
Unlike you, I don’t need to LIE about TRUTH.
Unlike you, we believe in the power of prayer.
We will be praying for Mitt to “see the light”.
As for the Huckster, we also pray that he also “sees the light”.
In fact, this verse comes to mind for Huck:
2Tim.4:3
[3] For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
Yes, Mike Huckabee and others are making that true.
He preaches HUMANISM and CLASS ENVY. Last I heard COVETING was also wrong, that is according to the Bible. Then again, Huck doesn’t care about that ... .
Huck’s made his choice:
Matt.16:26
[26] For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Mark.8:36
[36] For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Mike already sold his soul and it wasn’t to Christ.
Don’t fear the truth, “RangerMike”.
Take a look at Mike’s track record for yourself:
Look up more on Mike at the archives:
http://www.arkansasnews.com/search/index.html
I don’t need to lie.
Huck HAS to lie and DOES!
I’d say when you smell flowers, you probably look first for the coffin.
We understand you dont like Mike.
You are FRee to believe anything you wish.
You may even believe the stuff you just posted.
We as Christians read the Bible rather than books with some biblical principals.
http://bible.christianity.com/search/default.aspx?keyword=LAW%20FROM%20MISSOURI&type=bible&translation=nas
As this person tells in his own words. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0rcAByKUFM&NR=1
It is your choice you are FRee to choose yours ok.
I had some beef earlier — with Guliani especially. At this point however, I’m voting for whomever the nominee is. Pissing and moaning until November won’t do a damn thing. There is also a lot at stake in the congressionals and at the local levels. I don’t see the point in screwing up the turnout for the other conservatives who are running. I am also quite concerned about Dems controlling all three branches of govt at the same time. Mega disaster. A Guliani nomination would have ruined the party permanantly. However, with proper assurances, I think it could withstand a Huck or McCain term in the goal of preventing the doomsday mentioned above (a total Dem controlled govt).
Thank you for being a voice of reason.
“Level-headedness” seems to be at premium around FR the last several weeks.
It seems since most (apparently) didn’t get their wish in the candidates, they would prefer Democrats controlling both the Executive and Legislative branches for two years. How many SCOTUS retirements will occur in that time? I figure Ginsburg (Ginsberg?) is waiting to retire under exactly those circumstances.
I did a searce for you on the word truth.
http://bible.christianity.com/search/default.aspx?keyword=Truth&type=bible&translation=nas
Enjoy.
Genesis 24:27 NAS
He said , “Blessed be the LORD , the God of my master Abraham , who has not forsaken His lovingkindness and His truth toward my master ; as for me, the LORD has guided me in the way to the house of my master’s brothers .”
Genesis 42:16 NAS
“Send one of you that he may get your brother , while you remain confined , that your words may be tested , whether there is truth in you. But if not, by the life of Pharaoh , surely you are spies .”
Exodus 18:21 NAS
“Furthermore, you shall select out of all the people able men who fear God , men of truth , those who hate dishonest gain ; and you shall place these over them as leaders of thousands , of hundreds , of fifties and of tens .
Exodus 34:6 NAS
Then the LORD passed by in front of him and proclaimed , “The LORD , the LORD God , compassionate and gracious , slow to anger , and abounding in lovingkindness and truth ;
Joshua 2:12 NAS
“Now therefore, please swear to me by the LORD , since I have dealt kindly with you, that you also will deal kindly with my father’s household , and give me a pledge of truth ,
Joshua 24:14 NAS
[``We Will Serve the LORD”] “Now , therefore, fear the LORD and serve Him in sincerity and truth ; and put away the gods which your fathers served beyond the River and in Egypt , and serve the LORD .
Judges 9:15 NAS
“The bramble said to the trees , ‘If in truth you are anointing me as king over you, come and take refuge in my shade ; but if not, may fire come out from the bramble and consume the cedars of Lebanon .’
Judges 9:16 NAS
“Now therefore, if you have dealt in truth and integrity in making Abimelech king , and if you have dealt well with Jerubbaal and his house , and have dealt with him as he deserved -
Judges 9:19 NAS
if then you have dealt in truth and integrity with Jerubbaal and his house this day , rejoice in Abimelech , and let him also rejoice in you.
1 Samuel 12:24 NAS
“Only fear the LORD and serve Him in truth with all your heart ; for consider what great things He has done for you.
I better not post all 189 verses on TRUTH it may be overwhelming for some.
When someone sees all that venom and hate, your message gets lost and the normal reaction is to make a judgement about you and those like you. We see the same vial vitriol over on DU and make judgements about DUmmies all the time. So....
1. If you want to make a point forcefully it is best done as rationally and free from emotion as possible.
2. Please stop making FReepers and Free Republic look like the mirror image of the Democratic Underground. Years ago we were something better. With your help we can be that again.
Thank you.
Amen. Romney was, on a religious level, guilty of the sins of the father (or grandfather or great-grandfather or...anyone ever Mormon.)
Amen. Romney was, on a religious level, wrongfully charged with being guilty of the sins of the father (or grandfather or great-grandfather or...anyone ever Mormon.)
Brokered convention, yeah right! No sale!
I agree, Huckabee all the way!
bttt
You need to get over Romney, it’s over, he’s out. Not very many folks here had him as their first choice, but Huckabee was and is at the bottom of the heap for most. I understand Goober Pyle was still running hit piece push polls against Romney in Washington. I guess the brilliant speech writer is too stupid to know who he’s running against. Oh, but he “asked them to stop” right? Funny how he still hasn’t gotten around to saying anything negative about MC Cain and was even joking with the press the other day that his wife’s maiden name was Mc Cain. Wonder if he’ll marry her again soon so he can get some more wedding graft err, I mean gifts.
A Huckabee thread just wouldn’t be complete without nmh anti-Huck spam.
Romney can afford it, your class envy thing really smells. Most of us see who the real loser is,and it’s not Romney. Huck hasn’t fooled Rush Limbaugh at all, on page 12 of his latest news letter he has a whole page of quotes by Mc Cain, Huckabee, Biden, Kennedy. Reid, Murtha and others. The title is “Who said it?” Huckabee/Mc Cain or a liberal? Very enlightening. Of course since you dislike wealthy successful men so much I’m sure you wouldn’t be interested in what Rush limbaugh has to say. I’m sure to you he’s not a “real conservative” since he don’t walk around with his Bible in his hand 24/7.
I'm really interested in what you are saying here because I think that Humanism is Christianity's cheif rival. I'm not sure that the application of the "Golden Rule" to human governance is valid. I'm still thinking about it. But how is it humanist?
Humanism: Man is the measure of all things.
Christianity: God, in the person of Jesus Christ, is the measure of all things.
Acts 17
23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
It’s a way to stop him. I know the odds are slim but if we do nothing but moan and groan we have zero chance. I prefer to fight the odds instead of giving up.
Religious con artists hurt all Christians. People like Jim Baker and other televangical types take money from the elderly and others who really can’t afford it but are in search of a prayer, a miracle, salvation or “hope”. When their scandals are exposed, and they always are, they disillusion people and chip away at Christianity and moral values a little at a time. I would say religious hypocrites being exposed has much to do with the cynacism many feel towards religion today. Huckabee has shown by past actions that he is very much a hypocrite in the same manner as many of the TV con artist preachers. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see the Huck show premiere on CBN early next year after he loses the election big time.
I’m not nmh, but I’ll tell you what he conned me out of, mucho tax dollars. But he didn.t raise my taxes, he raised hope /s.
you have something to learn about the golden rule....
It’s pathetic when his supporters try to cram Huckabee down our throats when he can’t even get as much support on FR as the generic “other, not listed even if they are out of the race” candidate.
If you ever get tired of posting the same bilge over and over and over, why don’t try going to the archives of the Village Voice and look up the long article they did on Wayne Dumond in 2001? It was before Dumond was released, and they raked Bill Clinton over the coals for not giving Dumond a presidential pardon, since they considered his conviction to be one of the worst miscarriages of justice in history. Of course, they didn’t know what would happen if he were let out, they only knew the details of what happened before that point. But then, not everyone can be psychic like you.
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