Posted on 02/10/2008 10:27:11 PM PST by T.L.Sink
On Super Tuesday, Jonn McCain secured the Republican nomination. How did that happen? The reason is George W. Bush. He redefined conservatism with a "compassionate" variant that is a distinct departure from classic Reaganism. Bush muddled the ideological waters of conservatism. It was Bush who teamed with Kennedy to pass No Child Left Behind, a federal venture into education that would have been anathema to Reagan. It was Bush who signed the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform. It was Bush who strongly supported the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill. It was Bush who on his own created a vast new entitlement program, the Medicare drug benefit. And it was Bush who conducted a foreign policy so expansive and, at times, redemptive as to send paleoconservatives like Pat Buchanan and traditional conservatives like George Will into apoplexy and despair. Who in the end prepared the ground for the McCain ascendancy? Not Feingold. Not Kennedy. Not even Giuliani. It was George W. Bush. Bush begat McCain.
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Hey quit your whining! The black man is gonna double our chocolate rations!
McCain is just a more ornery clone of Bush.
But seriously the lesser of two evil approach got us here. Compassionate big tent GOP ideas got us here. If we want a truly conservative party we have to be prepared for all that entails. If it means the next few cycles at most having one of the houses we just gotta make sure we can throw the monkey wrenches in the socialist machine. Eventually we can build up from there. We let too many foxes into the henhouse. Gotta burn that sucker down and start again.
Bush shifted the GOP to the center-left on domestic policy agenda. He brought the meaning of big government Republicanism to new heights.
IMO, plenty of that "compassion" was passed down from W's "read my lips" Father.
Uh, well this is too true. If McCain could be as conservative as Pres. Bush I would rejoice
but Mc is to the left of Pres. Bush.
I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head!
Exactly!
If we accept McCain today, we’re sending the message it’ll be okay to nominate Arlen Specter next time. The nominees will get more and more liberal until there really is not one difference between the two.
You’re right. If Ted Kennedy switched parties today, we can all vote for him...with an R by his name it makes him better than any Dem.
Vote for McCain now, and get somebody even more to the left next time.
Maybe Lincoln Chaffee will be inspired to come back and run after witnessing his good buddy McCain win.
Krauthammer almost gets there. He still doesn’t quite get it.
Oh his overall assessment is right. He knows who brought us McCain and he’s right on that point.
Still he refers to Bush as the first apostate Sheriff. This label was preceded by Krauthammer’s assessment by alusion, that Bush has been the WOT stalwart. In part even that is incorrect. In whole, it’s a falicy.
We have 70,000 Saudi Arabian nationals in our nation at this time. They are here on the same education visas that so many of the 09/11 terrorists had. 70,000 is about 3,400 times the 19 who brought down the World Trade Center buildings and cost about 3,000 of our citizens lives.
Yes, I said that correctly. We could have as many as 3,400 terrorist teams in our nation at this time. Okay, that is overkill as statements go, but do we have say fifty, one hundred or a few hundred such teams active? Do you know? Does Bush know? The answer is no.
As if this wasn’t bad enough, Bush has also allowed our southern border to remain open from which terrorists could enter our nation at will, without any border checks.
Is Bush the sheriff many think he is, or is he really the Barney Fife of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, just one bullet between us and the inevitable, that he has allowed to collect in our nation at this time?
We are vulnerable. We are one act away from the death of Conservatism. If Bush allows it to happen, Conservatives will bear the full blame for it.
Sheriff? That’s as solid as a vapor trail... all that will be left of Conservatism if one terrorist team commits a significant act on Bush’s watch.
If he had sealed the borders and severely cut back on problematin immigrants, he could claim to have done the best he could. If only he had done that.
“Why does anyone think letting the Dems win is a great idea.
Its is beyond stupid which got us wiped out in 1992 and 2006 !”
It is the new FR mantra, taken from television entertainer Coulter. It gets a rise, attention, so what the hey?
Never mind any critical thinking or real history. Completely ignore what it took Reagan to gain victory: Years of writing, speaking, teaching, persuading, supporting his party through thick and thin.
But, you see, we’ve not been a conservative country since the stone age.
When we speak of Reagan, who I liked very much, and voted for, we tend to think of him as a singlarly conservative icon. That’s not true in reality.
In reality, Ronaldus left us with a nasty immigration problem to sort out. Funny how that’s become a key reason that many don’t like McCain and his support of the staus quo.
Reagan did no more for the welfare state than Clinton was finally forced to do by implementing Welfare Reform, and he did not control spending growth any better than Bush has.
The reality is, that our utopian view of conservatism hasn’t existed anywhere but in our minds. Everyone has a little bit of perfection, but never enough.
“Compassionate Conservatism” isn’t the problem at all. It’s come to the point where the candidates we would most like to see nominated couldn’t be elected as dog catcher, on a national scale. We’ve built a legacy around a man who was just as human, and just as flawed, as we now claim McCain is.
I will vote for McCain, who is as conservative as a national candidate can possibly get before handing the reins over to marxists. I think Reagan could appreciate that sentiment.
Exactly right. Even Hillary could get the party elite’s support if she just changed parties.
That’s what we have come to.
Hunter. Conservative...
Thompson. Conservative...
Romney. Conservative...
Huckibee. Conservative...
McCain. Conservative...
Hell, the word Conservative means nothing to a sizable portion of the Republican voters.
Give me an “R”...
I think they have already shut us up.
President Gave us Several Conservative Judges on the District Courts Many more on the Federal Circuit Appellate Courts, and the most Important Appellate Court of them all The Supreme Court of the United States of America.
For this He has done great things The war on terror he has led Supremely most of the time with some misgivings such as Picking Don Rumsfeld, But on the whole he finally got rid of this Liberal Secretary of Defense. Along with General Abizaid.
I am also grateful for the Bush Tax reduction in 2001 and the broad based tax reduction in all Tax Brackets passed in 2003. For this is what got the U.S. economy back to business.
What Bush has completely failed Conservatives on, is on legislation such as the Second Immigration Act of 2007 Bill number S. 1639 known as the Amnesty bill, The Medicare Prescription Drug Improvement and Modernization Act of 2003, The Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 or (B.C.R.A.) widely known as the McCain - Feingold Campaign Reform Act.
Bush has a mixed record and I would grade him with an overall grade of a C average. He did give us 3 great things and 2 very Liberal acts as stated above, and tried with all his might to give us a third Liberal Law, but we REVOLTED with his Amnesty Package.
This uprising will as I forcast, likely transpire again in the General Election with the Defeat of John McCain in a Conservative uprising AGAINST Liberal Republicans.
So President Bush can praise McCain and we can REJECT HIS POOR ADVICE Charles Krauthammer and many other Liberal Republicans are sure going to be surprised on Tuesday Noverber 4th of 2008. That is all !
He indeed made Mclaim a possible primary winner..
I wince everytime he calls the United States a democracy..
I find it odd Charlie is writing this way. He would appear to be Conservative yet on January 15 the night of the Michigan Primary he was on Fox News cheerleading for McLoser.
That’s the difference between the left and the right. The Left doesn’t stand on principle because you can’t stand on what you don’t have.
You are correct in saying we win some and we lose some, and we have already lost the White House with McCain, doesn’t mean we can’t fight for down ballot conservatives and 2012.
McCain being our nominee is a disaster, it would be like if the Democrats nominated Zell Miller. If Bill Richardson was the Dem nominee there could be a case made that he’s as conservative as McCain...sad.
Will let you know.
Can't figure if you read left to right or right to left.
There will be no returning to any roots the next time we lose. The marxist python only needs one or two more squeezes before he strangles us all, permanently.
Wake up, Your pessimism makes me wana slap you. We are rebuilding the party 24 months after November is not that long or just 730 days Calm down. Dude you need to go find yourself a prettyl lady and get laid to cheer your self up.
Exactly. The koolaid that Obamaramadan will shock the country to the right again is insane. There will be very few left under 60 years old that remember what a conservative is supposed to be.
>> “He redefined conservatism... “
I really think it’s time we stop blabbering that someone can redefine conservatism. No one, not even our fearless leader Dubya can redefine conservatism. If we allow the meaning of the word ‘conservatism’ to change, then we lose the ability to proclaim the tenets this unique and conclusive morpheme embodies.
Krauthammer should take a vacation and clear out his mind.
2010 is right around the corner 24 months after november we will have done what we set out to do. Which is to Teach liberal Republicans if you want power go Conservative or lose.
This is a nesserary loss to lose so we can win. Win with Conservatives. The party needs displine from time to time just like a little child who won’t mind his parents. The parents here are the Voters.
Why is it a good thing to have two left-leaning parties. You think it’s a good think for the GOP to be McGovernized?
Another Whig Party member alert.
You win some and lose some in politics.
But the Radical LEFT PLAYS FOR KEEPS !
They dont whine and say I am sitting this out because it not fair.
They keep come back again and again because they need power and control to keep the masses in line to implement their strategy which has no way back to earlier conservative times.
Mccain is a mess and full of flaws but he is not a radical leftist like Hillary or Osama.
The Dems will implement the fairness doctrine and any other regulations . Do you recall when Sen Coburn told Fox News reporters that he overhead Boxer and Clinton talking in the elevator about how they have to shut Talk Radio since it was outing them ? Snap out it.
Seems to me that you addressed this to the wrong group. This properly should be addressed to George W. Bush and John McCain.
Hatched him like an egg.
With all his faults, McCain will continue the Bush War on Terror in Iraq, Afghanistan, and (probably) Iran, and elsewhere. That is why Pres. Bush is supporting him. The Bush legacy depends on victory in the War on Terror, and McCain is the strongest candidate on that.
I can’t vote for McCain myself, but I understand how important it is that we not surrender in the War on Terror.
This is true. The Tory party in UK is now green. Mad Ivan left the Tories for a third party which is not doing well.
Has anyone heard that the House of Representatives has bought carbon credits on a faux carbon commodities market to equal the amount of green house gasses that body is responsible for?
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Your optimism makes me want to force a psych evaluation on you. Go and sing the praises of the Republican't Manchurian Candidate to your fellow Young Republicans Club, or Chamber of Commerce, or County GOP pukes. If he is the best the Republican'ts can do, the party is finished.
Where is the silver lining in this lump of shit you are trying to feed us? When externally, the rest of the world is falling apart, and domestically, the illegals continue their invasion, Our elected leaders grow more incompetent, government continues to grow, and the party slides to the left?
24 months from now will make 2008 look like Kindergarten. I hope you stick around FR long enough so I can say, "I told you so."
The Supreme Court is now Conservative so laws that are unconstitutional will be ruled facially unconstitutional.
As for your sily assumption that once a Democrat wins they are their for life. I got to say you are suffering from “Feeling sorry for yourself syndrome”.
There are Elections every 2 years to give the Electorate a chance to make corrections that they made in previous elections. It not as you indirectly assume, a lifetime power loss for Republicans.
Stop your sulking its not becoming of a person with intelligence. Once the voters get what they thought they wanted in Democrats, they will soon realize what Conservatives have known all along.
Give the Democrats let them hang themselves by overreaching. I dont think this is a Liberal Nation. It is just a confused 1. Once they step their toes in the Socialists waters, they will come home to their Parents and run into out arms for comfort.
How long will this take this in not knowable. But lt this be of comfort to you. The more power hungry the Socialists are the more lust for power the sooner Voters will Restore Conservative to POWER.
2010 will in my judgement be a grand opportunity, nothing will stop the Liberals. They will have to House, The Senate, and the Presidency.
With this plus their hunger for insance stupid policies, I know it can not be too long before the independent Votes will have had enough of the Democrats.
2010 is now a big chance to regain what we lost in 2006. The House and the Senate, or at least make huge inroads on the Socialist Democrats Majorities. Pick your head up its never too late.
You need to read bud. I have states McCain is a liberal loser we must DEFEAT.
Try to pay attention next time, we all make mistakes.
The Globalist fix was in before all this election season started that is why McCain was so bold with the amnesty bill!
I bet we get McCain in for 4 years enough to vanish Republican for years to come and the Globalist will do their dance on our grave...
Charles Krauthammer should call Rush Limbaugh and let him know about this.
You must not live in a BLUE STATE, like Illinois. We know GOP RINOs here. Rebuild? Pfft. Ain't gonna happen.
Not in your state have you ever heard of Mo, Nevada, Florida. What are you saying your want McCain now that I reveladed your Hate for McCain will lead to Democrat winning the White House. Well Duah.
Will will come back in 2010 and 2012 if the Democrats do what they do best. That being screwing Americans.
Have faith in the voters.
The voters have been shielded by Bush’s Veto’s. After He is not their the shit will fall and If had the smarts to know, Voters dont’ like High Taxes and Weak National Secutiry Democrats or any Ron Paul Republican.
Wake up I know we will lose, I am taking comfort knowing it will be short term. A needed Event to Shape the Republicans up to Become Conservatives agaon.
You can not have it both ways. Either vote For Liberal McCain so he can win and then continue to bitch as how worthless the son of a bitch is.
Or allow the GOP to lose with the vile Democrats to win and hurt the nation for a few years, then they will be thrown out when they Fuc* it up too bad.
You are not being reasonable. You must take a position.
I am sure you are a great person. We just disagree on what the best strategy is to get Republicans to become Conservatices again.
Who is John Gault?
Your in the minority on this site just so you know.
I’ll “hold my nose” in Nov...AGAIN! (I’m getting Obama no matter what, anyway)
Rasmussen conducted a poll then chose not to release the poll last week. I will tell you roughly hat it said.
Scott Rasmussen of Rassmusen Reports conducted a poll of only Highly Conservative Republicans.
The poll showed that as much as 16 % of Highly Conservative Republicans Voters, who stated that they would never vote for John McCain under Any Circumstances.
If this sentiment holds to till November it guarantees John McCain will lose in the General Election. Saturday’s G.O.P. Primary’s only confirmed this polls data.
Scott Rasmussen chose to not release the poll for reasons unknown, but I suspect it was to prevent panic in republican circles.
He noted that in this poll even if that hostility dies down considerably even if a percentage of only 3 % of Hardcore Conservatives DID NOT SHOW UP,
McCain would never be able to overcome a loss of base support, even if he Doubled the independent vote totals Bush recieved, in the 2004 General Election.
Looks like The Voters who Thought McCain was more Electable in 2008, sadly did not believe the Conservative OutRage and contempt Conservatives like myself hold for John McCain.
First, I think you attribute the entire #33 to me. I wrote only the last paragraph.
In any case, let me go point by point.
The Supreme Court is now Conservative so laws that are unconstitutional will be ruled facially unconstitutional.
False. SCOTUS is at best 5-4 Liberal.
As for your silly assumption that once a Democrat wins they are their for life. I got to say you are suffering from Feeling sorry for yourself syndrome.
I do not assume or believe that any Rat will hold office for life.
There are Elections every 2 years to give the Electorate a chance to make corrections that they made in previous elections. It not as you indirectly assume, a lifetime power loss for Republicans.
First part: true, second part: remember the Whigs?
Stop your sulking its not becoming of a person with intelligence. Once the voters get what they thought they wanted in Democrats, they will soon realize what Conservatives have known all along.
I am not sulking, and I certainly hope so, Carter to Reagan would be an example.
Give the Democrats let them hang themselves by overreaching. I don't think this is a Liberal Nation. It is just a confused 1. Once they step their toes in the Socialists waters, they will come home to their Parents and run into out arms for comfort.
Yes. Not sure. Probably, as they will still want somebody to pay their bills and take care of them.
The more power hungry the Socialists are the more lust for power the sooner Voters will Restore Conservative to POWER.
I certainly hope so.
2010 will in my judgment be a grand opportunity, nothing will stop the Liberals. They will have to House, The Senate, and the Presidency.
Maybe.
2010 is now a big chance to regain what we lost in 2006. The House and the Senate, or at least make huge inroads on the Socialist Democrats Majorities. Pick your head up its never too late.
Are "we" Republicans or conservatives?
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