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Boeing engineer charged with stealing Space Shuttle secrets for China
Chicago Tribune ^ | February 11, 2008 | James P. Miller

Posted on 02/11/2008 12:11:54 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

The Justice Department said Monday that it has arrested a former Boeing Co. engineer on charges that he stole Boeing trade secrets related to several aerospace programs -- including the Space Shuttle -- on behalf of the Peoples Republic of China.

The department said the arrest of 72-year-old Dongfan "Greg" Chung, of Orange, Calif. follows his indictment on eight counts of economic espionage and acting as an unregistered foreign agent for China.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: avaiation; aviation; ba; boeing; china; chinathreat; espionage; spaceshuttle
Egads!
1 posted on 02/11/2008 12:12:02 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Hang the SOB.


2 posted on 02/11/2008 12:13:08 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Gadzooks !
3 posted on 02/11/2008 12:13:36 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Yowza.............


4 posted on 02/11/2008 12:14:30 PM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (God Bless George W. Bush)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Evidently this guy didn’t donate $100,000.00.

That’s how Loral’s chairman got around it.


5 posted on 02/11/2008 12:14:45 PM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

China is very aggressive in stealing our technology. From sub secrets to penetrating the NSA to stealing B-2 Bomber stealth secrets, they have been very busy.

I bet they are tired of it too. By backing Hillary they want to simply show up at the Oval Office with a check for the library and have the info Fed-Exed to them.


6 posted on 02/11/2008 12:16:17 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

There are hundreds if not thousands of such spies working in high tech commercial and academic labs all over the US. No one cares.


7 posted on 02/11/2008 12:17:42 PM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Space Shuttle secrets

I would expect most 30 year old technology to be available on ebay.

8 posted on 02/11/2008 12:20:47 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Not surprising when even our department of defense admit that they can’t track who makes our sesitive military equipment.


9 posted on 02/11/2008 12:20:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (Just call me M.O.M. (Maverick opposed to McCain.))
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Will Clinton will pardon him, if elected?


10 posted on 02/11/2008 12:22:47 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: pissant

The prison time and fines mentioned in the article are too soft. Giving defense secrets to a foreign power should be punished by hanging/death. Our government often trades a lenient sentence for information from the spy as to what was leaked. I say, torture the spy to get the info and then execute the spy. That’s what China does and the Soviets did and they had fewer leakers than we have had.


11 posted on 02/11/2008 12:23:58 PM PST by RicocheT
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To: thackney
I read once where some computer parts and system boards for the shuttle had to be bought off Ebay since the original maker went under or was bought out decades ago.

Slightly OT here. As a kid, I remember reading in some magazine or maybe Weekly Reader about how the internals of some computer at the IRS were so old, they crumbled into dust when handled. Being an young and naive type, I was concerned. Now, that would be great news. Especially if it were a daily thing.

12 posted on 02/11/2008 12:26:12 PM PST by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair!)
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To: RicocheT

I agree. Quick execution is in order.


13 posted on 02/11/2008 12:26:23 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

14 posted on 02/11/2008 12:26:42 PM PST by poindexter
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To: Paul Ross

Typical


15 posted on 02/11/2008 12:27:05 PM PST by am452 (Globalist: Converting the American people to the Democrat party since 1992)
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To: IrishCatholic

Pardon me, they, China, aren’t just “aggressively stealing”, they have been at it for dozens of years, and the Clintons got in the White House and HANDED it over.


16 posted on 02/11/2008 12:28:29 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

How many chinks in our security protocols are there?


17 posted on 02/11/2008 12:29:11 PM PST by toddlintown (Building More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: poindexter

18 posted on 02/11/2008 12:29:43 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

If anyone is interested, the astronauts are spacewalking now and getting ready to hang the Columbus module on the station.
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html


19 posted on 02/11/2008 12:32:22 PM PST by cabojoe
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To: Hacklehead
There are hundreds if not thousands of such spies working in high tech commercial and academic labs all over the US. No one cares.

Yes they do. It counts towards diversity.
20 posted on 02/11/2008 12:33:21 PM PST by Sig Sauer P220
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To: toddlintown
How many chinks in our security protocols are there?

Pa dum pum.
21 posted on 02/11/2008 12:35:07 PM PST by Sig Sauer P220
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To: poindexter

I love your rope. Unfortunately, the “Fall of the West” and America, was started when we stopped punishing traitors and spies. The second pillar to fall was the acceptance of illegal immigrants into the US by both Parties of the United States.

These above are seminal events convincing me that the Fall of the US has indeed started. Perhaps the 3rd pillar will be the destruction of the conservative side of the 2 Party system.


22 posted on 02/11/2008 12:36:09 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Big Government Evangelicals.....leading conservatives to Landslide 2012)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

“Pa dum pum.”

I’ve got a second show at 9. Don’t forget the tip your servers!


23 posted on 02/11/2008 12:36:59 PM PST by toddlintown (Building More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: Aaron0617
wonder what made him turn? Could be money but I bet it was women, cause how they got the last guy. I tell ya, I don't know how we're gonna contest this.

The safety and security of my country or one of these women, a man has to think about that.


24 posted on 02/11/2008 12:38:10 PM PST by Aaron0617
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To: thackney

The stolen secrets on the outdated shuttle info will be updated with lead paint.


25 posted on 02/11/2008 12:40:26 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Hacklehead

Apparently somebody does, because we arrested this one.


26 posted on 02/11/2008 12:41:56 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

My first reaction to the title is ‘the Space Shuttle still has secrets?’


27 posted on 02/11/2008 12:43:11 PM PST by newzjunkey (Keep them working back home. Buy Made in Mexico.)
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To: wally_bert

For Parts, NASA Boldly Goes . . . on eBay
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A0CE2DF1739F931A25756C0A9649C8B63

Reported back in 2002


28 posted on 02/11/2008 12:47:11 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I’ve got my dad’s owners manual for his push-button automatic transmission 1963 Plymouth Fury 3 on Craig’s List right now, but thats different I guess.


29 posted on 02/11/2008 12:47:24 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: RicocheT
What he was charged with sounds strange to me. Why was he charged with economic espionage? Just talking about details of defense projects to a foreign national can get you tossed in jail for violating ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations).

It appears they are just bringing the charges that are easiest to prove in a civilian court against him, and figuring that at his advanced age they will effectively produce a life sentence.

As you suggested, I suspect that they took the death penalty off of the table in return for his cooperation. However, if they don't charge him with those crimes now, they can still do so in the future if he doesn't cooperate fully.

However, a death penalty case would result in a long, expensive, drawn-out trial, and the guy would likely die in prison anyway before he exhausted his appeals, so it would be expensive, time consuming, and pointless.

30 posted on 02/11/2008 12:47:58 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
between 1985 and 2003, Chung made multiple trips to the PRC to deliver lectures on technology involving the Space Shuttle and other programs

And they're just putting 2 + 2 together NOW??? Good to know our Justice Dept is on top of things!!

31 posted on 02/11/2008 12:52:21 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Hillary is a Pig. McCain is a Rat. Obama is an Ox. Huckabee is a Sheep. Bill Clinton is a Dog.)
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To: newzjunkey
‘the Space Shuttle still has secrets?’

No kidding.

32 posted on 02/11/2008 12:56:07 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: newzjunkey
My first reaction to the title is ‘the Space Shuttle still has secrets?’

Betcha the Chinese now have the only copy of the original recipe for effective, non-shedding fuel tank foam insulation.

33 posted on 02/11/2008 1:06:36 PM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Yoiks! And away with him!
34 posted on 02/11/2008 1:57:03 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: thackney
I would expect most 30 year old technology to be available on ebay.

He's been doing this for 30 years, so it isn't inconcievable it was new technology when he stole/sold it.

35 posted on 02/11/2008 2:05:11 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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