I guess we need to go back to the drawing table and define "conservative."
Posted on 02/11/2008 2:10:24 PM PST by bshomoic
DeLay Rips McCain for Opposing Medicare Drug Plan
By Fred Lucas
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
February 11, 2008
Washington (CNSNews.com) - Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay criticized likely Republican presidential nominee John McCain - and by extension some of the more conservative members of Congress - by calling McCain's 2003 vote against the Medicare prescription drug plan a non-conservative vote.
DeLay made his remarks in an interview with Cybercast News Service at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington, D.C., on Saturday.
While in Congress, DeLay had helped quashed a rebellion by House conservatives, who tried to defeat the prescription plan then being promoted by President Bush.
"I'm very proud of the Medicare bill," DeLay told Cybercast News Service. "… We took a welfare state program and applied conservative principles to it." Listen to Audio
Asked if McCain's vote against the Medicare expansion bill was un-conservative, DeLay responded, "Yes, it was, as a matter of fact. It was taking the easy way out."
DeLay is among many Republicans uncomfortable with having the moderate McCain as the party's probable nominee for 2008. However, McCain was joined by some of the most conservative members of Congress in his opposition to the Medicare prescription drug plan.
In the Senate, McCain was one of just eight Republicans to vote against the Medicare bill. He was joined by Sens. Wayne Allard of Colorado, Trent Lott of Mississippi, John Sununu and Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, John Ensign of Nevada, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and John Cornyn of Texas.
In the House, only 25 Republicans voted against the measure, most of them conservative stalwarts. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, also a GOP presidential candidate, opposed the Medicare bill. Others opposed included Reps. John Shadegg and Jeff Flake of Arizona, Mike Pence and Dan Burton of Indiana, and then-Rep. Jim DeMint of South Carolina.
Ensign, DeMint, Flake, Shadegg and Pence each have 100 percent conservative voting records, according to the American Conservative Union (ACU) scorecard.
In January, U.S. Comptroller General David M. Walker told Congress that the $8.4 trillion in unfunded liability in the Medicare prescription drug program actually exceeds that of the $6.8 trillion unfunded liability in Social Security.
Nonetheless, DeLay insisted that expanding Medicare was a conservative program.
"We took a welfare state program that would spend $40,000 on cutting someone's feet off because of diabetes but wouldn't spend $100 a month to save those people. That is good conservative economics," DeLay said in the interview. Listen to Audio
"And we instituted health savings accounts, which is a conservative issue," DeLay continued. "We applied choice, competition, free market principles to a welfare state program. If we had been held to the same criticism on welfare reform, we would have never gotten welfare reform either."
DeLay, who resigned from the House in 2006 after being indicted on campaign finance- related charges in Texas, has been one of the most vocal critics of McCain on the right. But DeLay himself has many critics from the right as well. Besides the Medicare plan, these critics point to runaway pork barrel spending and a cozy relationship between the GOP Congress and lobbyists that flourished under DeLay's watch.
That record prompted four members of the ACU board to resign after DeLay was appointed to the board last year.
"I agree we let the earmarks get out of hand," DeLay said. "I do not agree we did not take a conservative, principled approach to everything including Medicare." Listen to Audio
Though many conservatives speaking at this past weekend's Conservative Political Action Conference urged support for McCain, DeLay said he is a conservative before he's a Republican and has to hear more from the presumptive nominee.
"If you want to stop Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, then it's going to take the conservatives to do that," DeLay said. "I'm sure John McCain understands that. In reaching out to conservatives, I want to make sure the conservative voice is being heard, being addressed, our questions being answered, and then we'll see."
Poor Tom, no one is more responsible for Nick Lampson being back in Congress than Tom DeLay.
So opposing federally subsidized viagra for geezers in Florida is a non-conservative position?
Oh, and no one tell Delay that it's cheaper to get one's prescription filled at retail at most WalMarts in most states than it is to participate in the federal prescription drug program. His head might explode.
Huh?
Tom, go play golf on a Lobbyist paid for junket. IMO, you and others of your ilk are a large part of why the Rep Party is in the mess it is today.
That was one of a few things that I liked about McCain
DeLay, the boy ain’t right no more. Very sad.
That was one of a few things that I liked about McCain
That was one of a few things that I liked about McCain
Actually, the fact that McCain opposed that financial timebomb is a plus in my book.
Isn’t it amazing what politicians can do with other people’s money?
Citizens Against Government Waste gave Tom DeLay the lowest rating of any Texas Republican for the 109th Congress.
So much for HIS “conservative” credentials!
Pigs actually fly on this one. I agree with McCain rather than DeLay on this issue.
Shut up Tom. You make less sense every time you open your pie hole.
DeLay is such a hypocrite. He supported an extension to the welfare state but has the gall to criticize McCain (who fought the expansion of Medicare entitlements)as being something less conservative than himself.
DeLay is like many so-called conservatives on this website who ignore the liberal positions taken by their conservative “heroes” while condemning people like McCain who actually have an 80% or better conservative voting record.
In this case Delay is wrong. McCain actually got this one right. Only let us remember that McCain was also okay with raising social security taxes. His record is mixed.
Didn’t read the whole thing but McCain’s vote against that monstrosity is a mark in his favor in my eyes.
Perhaps McCain’s best vote ever.
I guess we need to go back to the drawing table and define "conservative."
Tom Delays life time rating 92.9!
I wonder if this is a reverse psychology move to get us to defend McInsane.
Of all his votes, I think this one against bloating up the govt. was one of his better ones.
But I still don’t like him.
“IMO, you and others of your ilk are a large part of why the Rep Party is in the mess it is today.”
Careful, or the gang that covers for the likes of Delay, Denny “Star Spangled Banner” Hastert, Bill “HCA” Frist, and other crew members of HMS (republican) Titanic, will come along and rearrange your deck chairs!
Every Republican should have opposed it!
On this issue I am pro-McCain and anti-Delay.
Tom delay thanks so much for your “fiscal conservatives” that just cut taxes and bloated the budget. Yes, it helped the economy for a few years but we will forget that soon. We won’t forget the huge fiscal burden we’re about to face because you didn’t want to cut medicare.
but then they’d be traitors to the GOP
See, this is why the GOP is in the tailspin that it’s in. There was a time that they’d abolish programs and departments instead of making them more “conservative.”
Frankly, after watching W's revelations in the form of spending, immigration ,etc. I'm finally convinced there is no difference between the parties, just a lot of 'differences' on issues that they gin up every election cycle to keep us, their supporters on the plantation.
What a joke and a really bad one at that.
This was the vote where they held it open for 3 hours so the republicans could arm-twist their own members, in one case threatening to run an opponent against them, until they could talk enough into voting FOR this plan.
DeLay may be right that it’s stupid to cut off feet because you couldn’t buy drugs, but this was one of the Good votes by McCain.
Weird.
At least we both see Shelly Sekula Gibbs in the same light.
DeLay is an idiot...on this topic at least!
Opposing Bush's socialist MedicareRx boondoggle was one of McCain's rare shining moments as a genuine Constitution-following conservative!
For Social Security recipients, they see their annual benefits increased around two percent, while their charges for Medicare and the prescription drug plans increase twice as fast, and deducted from their benefits before checks are issued.
They wouldn’t be traitors to the Republican Party, only to One World Socialist Bush.
Personally, i’m stuck with having to buy that crap since i’m 70.
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