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Who shall tell the people ... ... that the world’s largest gun park is being built nearby?
Las Vegas Weeky ^ | 11 feb 08 | Joshua Longobardy

Posted on 02/11/2008 2:31:06 PM PST by rellimpank

The ground-breaking of the Clark County Shooting Park at the base of Sheep Mountain in the utter northwest region of the Las Vegas Valley in October 2006 was a grand event, out in the middle of the desert. Not just because it was attended by dignitaries representing every level of government, but also because the moment represented their collaborative effort, a quarter century in the works, to make Las Vegas home of the world’s largest shooting park. Yet the 2,900-acre, $61 million project did not ignite much public debate.

In fact, the Las Vegas Weekly noted this with a headline following the ceremony that read: “$61 million to fire a gun—and nobody has any questions?” The problem, it turns out, was that the park’s nearest neighbors were completely unaware of the park at the time.

(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegasweekly.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: 2cool; banglist; cool; coolcool; lasvegas; verycool
---Clark County will have something besides casinos--
1 posted on 02/11/2008 2:31:13 PM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

I wonder if the guy was trying to be funny when he said the homeowners are up in arms.


2 posted on 02/11/2008 2:37:23 PM PST by Dr. Zzyzx
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To: rellimpank

>>Lennar is one of the county’s largest taxpayers, according to the Clark County Assessor’s office.<<

That’s why it was kept quiet. $$$$$$$$


3 posted on 02/11/2008 2:43:06 PM PST by B4Ranch (("Life is a food chain; if you're not at the top, you're on the menu." ))
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To: B4Ranch
--ground-breaking of the Clark County Shooting Park at the base of Sheep Mountain in the utter northwest region of the Las Vegas Valley in October 2006 was a grand event, out in the middle of the desert. Not just because it was attended by dignitaries representing every level of government, but also because the moment represented their collaborative effort, a quarter century in the works,--

--this is keeping something quiet?

4 posted on 02/11/2008 2:49:49 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: rellimpank
Just how of gun can you shoot there?


OR


5 posted on 02/11/2008 2:53:38 PM PST by ThomasThomas (Pro football is just a nanny state version of rugby!)
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To: ThomasThomas

Just how(insert) BIG of gun can you shoot there?


6 posted on 02/11/2008 2:56:02 PM PST by ThomasThomas (Pro football is just a nanny state version of rugby!)
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To: rellimpank

Pardon my ignorance here - but are they still using lead shot and lead in bullets used for target shooting? I ask because when I was growing up in Milwaukee in the 60’s and 790’s we had a lake shore gun club, which shot out over Lake Michigan. The club vaporized when the environmental impact of all the lead at the lake bottom was recognized and the cleanup costs were assessed against them. In designing a new park, I suppose you would contain the shot in some fashion (have a sand pit near the targets which could be sifted out, etc. Does anyone know how they accommodate tin environmental sensitivities?


7 posted on 02/11/2008 2:56:49 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: rellimpank

You can be fully in favor of the 2nd Amendment and still concede that the homeowners have a point. I don’t know Nevada law, but it seems to me that the home seller a) knew about this and b) didn’t disclose it. It certainly reasonable to think that it would affect the value of the homes.


8 posted on 02/11/2008 2:57:29 PM PST by RonF
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To: rellimpank
Calls made to Lennar’s corporate office were not returned; attempts to contact Lennar’s regional office and its Carmel Canyon representatives were unsuccessful.

It would be interesting to know if Dirty Harry has any connection to this real estate developer Lennar.

9 posted on 02/11/2008 3:01:15 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
I suppose you would contain the shot in some fashion (have a sand pit near the targets which could be sifted out, etc.

Nevada is a giant sand pit.

10 posted on 02/11/2008 3:02:02 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
Does anyone know how they accommodate tin environmental sensitivities?

Yeah. They built it in a Western desert location.

11 posted on 02/11/2008 3:03:47 PM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: rellimpank

What are they bitchin about?

It’s like living next to an adult Mickey World! I’d try to negotiate a life membership with the club!

As far as property values, if that market them to the right people they will SOAR!


12 posted on 02/11/2008 3:08:42 PM PST by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: Hazcat

Bet they’re not going to have much trouble with crime in that area.


13 posted on 02/11/2008 3:12:49 PM PST by Hoffer Rand
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To: Hoffer Rand
Bet they’re not going to have much trouble with crime in that area.

Unless the HOA decides to make their community a gun free zone. (would that be the all time laugher!)

14 posted on 02/11/2008 3:16:21 PM PST by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: rellimpank

Can I bring my Stinger? ....okay, maybe that’ll be the bad freeper joke of the day.


15 posted on 02/11/2008 3:18:59 PM PST by Karliner ("Things are more like they are now than they ever were before. DDE)
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To: ThomasThomas

BURT! My hero...


16 posted on 02/11/2008 3:19:02 PM PST by AFreeBird (No Romney, No Rudy, No McLame, No Huck, No Paul! Toss the GOP into the ashcan of History.)
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To: RonF

-—see post #4—


17 posted on 02/11/2008 3:19:12 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: rellimpank
...the world’s largest shooting park.

Is that good?

Local restaurant had a sign: "Home of the World's Largest Steak."

It wasn't good.

18 posted on 02/11/2008 3:20:42 PM PST by Rudder
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To: ThomasThomas

Which tremors movie is that from?


19 posted on 02/11/2008 3:21:03 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: rellimpank

Been more or less quiet for the last two and a half years. Had to get those home sold first.


20 posted on 02/11/2008 3:25:30 PM PST by B4Ranch (("Life is a food chain; if you're not at the top, you're on the menu." ))
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To: rellimpank

Every time we go through Vegas, we stop at the machine gun shooting range, so the Mr and kids can shoot a real machine gun. They give you the target, and all the bullets you can shoot in two minuntes. It’s worth the visit.


21 posted on 02/11/2008 3:30:31 PM PST by Red Boots
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

It wasn’t the lead, it was the idea of a gun club so close to the liberal north shore. The Cudahy Sportsman’s Club still shoots over Lake Michigan in Warnimont Park.


22 posted on 02/11/2008 3:31:53 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: rellimpank

What’s a one-day event got to do with people who bought their house before or afterwards?


23 posted on 02/11/2008 3:49:13 PM PST by RonF
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To: RonF

-—I would describe it as something called “awareness”—in the vernacular, it is sometimes spoken of as knowing your (***) from a hole in the ground—


24 posted on 02/11/2008 3:58:44 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
Does anyone know how they accommodate tin environmental sensitivities?

Yeah, they shoot anybody who complains.

25 posted on 02/11/2008 3:58:46 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: ThomasThomas

“Just how(insert) BIG of gun can you shoot there?”

Excuse me while I whip this out...


26 posted on 02/11/2008 4:18:40 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: rellimpank

Reporting at the Las Vegas Weekly really went downhill after Carl Kolchak left town...

27 posted on 02/11/2008 4:36:34 PM PST by Jonah Hex ("How'd you get that scar, mister?" "Nicked myself shaving.")
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To: RonF

“It certainly reasonable to think that it would affect the value of the homes.”

True! I would definitely be willing to pay more for a house near a good range. Valid point !


28 posted on 02/11/2008 5:31:07 PM PST by stompk
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To: RonF

“It certainly reasonable to think that it would affect the value of the homes.”


Yes. It should raise them a good deal.


29 posted on 02/11/2008 6:01:29 PM PST by marktwain
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To: rellimpank

This is bad news for FrontSight Academy. Private enterprise can’t compete with taxpayer’s dollars.


30 posted on 02/12/2008 5:07:25 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Jonah Hex

“Reporting at the Las Vegas Weekly really went downhill after Carl Kolchak left town...”

The night stalker was a great show. I was just a kid (10-12) then and it scared the crap out of me. He was what journalism used to be.


31 posted on 02/12/2008 5:36:17 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

if they’re smart they’ll sift it, re-cast it, reload it.
secondary source of income. :)


32 posted on 02/12/2008 6:14:51 AM PST by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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To: Shooter 2.5
---I don't know-- Frontsight has completely failed as a housing development but apparently is doing alright as far as continuing to offer classes. (I believe the big lawsuit was settled--at least there's been no news on it lately)--

--I have never even signed the petitions for the "shooter park" due to taxpayer involvement and complete dependency on Harry Reid for it's future---

33 posted on 02/12/2008 6:47:46 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: rellimpank

Finally, a reason to go to Vegas.

As I don’t see much enjoyment in getting trashed and having sex with random women who could be carrying any combination of sexually transmitted diseases, I could go to the world’s largest firing range.

Not to say I won’t hang out by a pool sipping a drink, watching women walk by. I just happen to have standards for myself.


34 posted on 02/12/2008 7:30:16 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: Max in Utah

Contrary to what the EPA and “enviro-terrorist have peddeled to the public for about 40 years now, bullet lead in most situations poses no problem as far as pollution goes. The EPA considers fired bullets “expended as intended”, not discarded (and therefore not waste), and only under extreme circumstances does lead in the environment pose a health concern.

Lead (Pb) does not dissolve except in very acidic soil/water conditions and unless actually ingested, is of no or very minor concern.

Most ranges that impact over shallow water are at risk for waterfowl ingestion (which may be junk science as well), not lead dissolution.

Camp Perry, OH, the site of the National rifle & pistol matches, has its impact area in lake Erie. EPA, Army and State studies indicate no threat to water quality or biologic forms, even after 100 years of concentrated firing.

Don’t “swallow” anything about the impact of lead, it is usually an attempt to limit 2A rights, not protect the environment.

Approx 200 million tons of Lead are used annually in the US, most in the form of electronics and automotive applications, a very small percentage is expended as bullets. Range operations recycle about 50-60% of the annual lead by weight fired each year, whereas most other lead users do nothing except place in landfills, auto batteries being the exception.

Research by several major universities show this clearly.

(The Ohio State Univ, Lincoln Univ of MO (whom I work for now) etc)


35 posted on 02/13/2008 5:52:20 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US Army, Retired)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
"Does anyone know how they accommodate tin environmental sensitivities?

My trap range at Kenmore Wa. mines the shot and sells it. We also mine the bullets out of the burms at the pistol and rifle ranges. It's made available to bullet casters.

The eco-bureaucrats here are as strident as anywhere in the country and the anti-gun political environment is...well it's the Seattle area. The state regularly comes to inspect our runoff control and settling ponds and we've done ok....so far.

36 posted on 02/13/2008 7:01:41 AM PST by VR-21
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
All your questions answered here:

Clark County Shooting Park

37 posted on 02/13/2008 7:08:20 AM PST by Condor51 (Vote for McInsane or Ugga-Bugga? Decisions, decisions, decisions.)
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To: rellimpank
Hey!
Watch out for all those fancy new houses you inbred knuckle dragging gun freaks!

Oops, what houses?

38 posted on 02/13/2008 7:11:32 AM PST by Condor51 (Vote for McInsane or Ugga-Bugga? Decisions, decisions, decisions.)
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To: Manly Warrior
Thanks for the info.

Lead (Pb) does not dissolve except in very acidic soil/water conditions...

Roman army sling "bullets" generally show very little corrosion after being buried in the ground for over 2,000 years.


39 posted on 02/13/2008 11:14:46 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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