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Russian bombers intercepted near US Navy vessel (Tupolev 95 flew 2000ft directly over USS Nimitz)
ynet ^ | 02.12.08 | ynet

Posted on 02/11/2008 3:45:40 PM PST by Flavius

Edited on 02/11/2008 4:36:47 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Russian bomber aircraft approached a US Aircraft carrier in the Pacific on Saturday and were intercepted by American fighter jets, a US Defense official said on Monday...

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Navy Intercepts Russian Bombers

By LOLITA C. BALDOR – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. fighter planes intercepted two Russian bombers, including one that buzzed an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific during the weekend, The Associated Press has learned.

A U.S. military official says that one Russian Tupolev 95 flew directly over the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz twice, at a low altitude of about 2,000 feet, while another bomber circled about 58 miles out. The official was speaking on condition of anonymity because the reports on the flights were classified as secret.

The Saturday incident, which never escalated beyond the flyover, comes amid heightened tensions between the United States and Russia over U.S. plans for a missile defense system based in Poland and the Czech Republic.

Such Russian bomber flights were common during the Cold War, but have been rare since.

The bombers were among four Russian Tupolev 95s launched from Ukrainka in the middle of the night, including one that Japanese officials say violated their country's airspace over an uninhabited island south of Tokyo.

U.S. officials tracked and monitored the bombers as two flew south along the Japanese coast, and two others flew farther east, coming closer to the Nimitz and the guided missile cruiser USS Princeton.

As the bombers got about 500 miles out from the U.S. ships, four F/A-18 fighters were launched from the Nimitz, the official said. The fighters intercepted the Russian bombers about 50 miles south of the Nimitz.

At least two U.S. F/A-18 Hornets trailed the bomber as it came in low over the Nimitz twice, while one or two of the other U.S. fighters followed the second bomber as it circled.

The official said there were no verbal communications between the U.S. and the Russians, and the Pentagon has not heard of any protests being filed by the United States. Historically, diplomatic protests were not filed in such incidents because they were so common during the Cold War era.

This is the first time Russian Tupolevs have flown over or interacted with a U.S. carrier since 2004.

In that incident, a Russian Tupolev flew over the aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk in the Sea of Japan on Jan. 29, 2004. Since then, however, relations between the U.S. and Russia have deteriorated to their worst point since the Cold War, largely due to the United States' plans to put a radar system in the Czech Republic and 10 missile defense interceptors in Poland.

The U.S. has defended the plan as necessary to protect its European allies from possible attacks by Iran. But the Kremlin has condemned the proposal, saying it would threaten Russia's security.

"We are being forced to take retaliatory steps," said Russian President Vladimir Putin, who also warned that a new arms race is under way.

Japan, meanwhile, filed a formal protest with the Russian Embassy in Tokyo after Saturday's incident, saying that one of the Russian bombers crossed into Japanese airspace for three minutes. Russia has denied there was an intrusion.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Russia; US: California
KEYWORDS: aerospace; bmd; cccp; coldwar2; communism; missiledefense; navair; putin; redairforce; redjihad; russia; securitybreach; sovietunion; usa; ussnimitz; ussr
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1 posted on 02/11/2008 3:45:43 PM PST by Flavius
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1963607/posts?page=497#497


2 posted on 02/11/2008 3:47:21 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Flavius

Look at it this way: Russia needs to train a few flight crews for long-distance missions since they have been kind of letting that slide in recent years.


3 posted on 02/11/2008 3:48:42 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Cindy

gee...that’s a whole lot’s of “OOPs” going on lately...

I smell bear sh!t.....


4 posted on 02/11/2008 3:48:49 PM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: Flavius

Didn’t they just buzz Japan? Look forward for everyone to test the new admin with a spy plane incident or something like we had with China in 2000. Just to get a feel for things.


5 posted on 02/11/2008 3:49:05 PM PST by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: Flavius

Standard cold war operating procedure. The next step is trailing tattle-tails.


6 posted on 02/11/2008 3:49:34 PM PST by Jacquerie (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and Constitution.)
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To: magslinger

Ping


7 posted on 02/11/2008 3:53:07 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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To: Flavius

Accidents happen.


8 posted on 02/11/2008 3:54:30 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: Flavius
The question is what are they testing?

schu

9 posted on 02/11/2008 3:54:58 PM PST by schu
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To: schu

Time of response. Probe, test, observe.


10 posted on 02/11/2008 3:57:28 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Crim

Yep.

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11 posted on 02/11/2008 4:04:51 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Flavius

Time to put the blackbirds back in the sky?


12 posted on 02/11/2008 4:05:25 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Flavius

This was already confirmed by the Russians over the weekend in the article about the Japan incident (same flight).


13 posted on 02/11/2008 4:06:19 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: Flavius

Things like this make McCain look a whole lot better than Hillary or Obama.


14 posted on 02/11/2008 4:08:37 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Nachum

Nope, time to put the scramjets into the sky.


15 posted on 02/11/2008 4:09:00 PM PST by DrGunsforHands
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To: Flavius

Russians flying quad turboprop targets.


16 posted on 02/11/2008 4:11:54 PM PST by Stentor
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To: Flavius
A U.S. military official says that one Russian Tupolev 95 flew directly over the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz twice, at a low altitude of about 2,000 feet, while another bomber circled about 58 miles out. The official was speaking on condition of anonymity because the reports on the flights were classified as secret.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iZnc42XeC-4PKplrnx74ylj3JSLAD8UODA4G0

17 posted on 02/11/2008 4:12:03 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: Eyes Unclouded
They did, and they also ran a big naval exercise where they test launched some air-launched cruise missiles over the Bay of Biscay.

Maybe the incidents are just being reported more often, but it sure looks like they're getting a lot more bold.
18 posted on 02/11/2008 4:14:36 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Flavius
"Four F/A-18s took off from the USS Nimitz as the Tupolev 95s neared the carrier. One of the Tupolevs flew over the Nimitz at an altitude of about 600 metres, said Mark Matsunaga, a spokesman for the US Pacific Fleet in Honolulu."

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/185153,us-warplanes-intercept-russian-bombers-over-pacific.html

19 posted on 02/11/2008 4:17:05 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: Nachum

should have never grounded them ...


20 posted on 02/11/2008 4:17:18 PM PST by Vindicator1 (The FastenYour Seatbelt sign is ON !!)
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To: The Pack Knight

When they get inside the zone, shoot them down. Stop this BS before it starts.


21 posted on 02/11/2008 4:17:54 PM PST by Dusty Road
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To: Flavius

I was stationed on the USS Ticonderoga cva14 in the gulf of Tonkin 1967-69 working the flight deck. I remember several times the big slow bombers flying over, followed closely by our f8’s.


22 posted on 02/11/2008 4:20:13 PM PST by JamesA
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To: maquiladora; Travis McGee; B4Ranch; Grampa Dave; Lurker; cva66snipe; joanie-f; betty boop; ...
This is sickening and disgusting. To allow a TU-95 to get this close is bordering on derelect IMHO. The TU-95 can carry cruise missiles, and is usually used for armed recon to locate our naval groups position so that battalion or regiment strength strike bombers can then attack with many, many cruise missiles.

That is their doctrine. Our doctrine has always been to have AEW and CAP up to try and interdict their recon or strike aircraft far enough out to prevent the cruise missile launch.

Allowing them to fly right over the carrier at 600m in the middle of the Pacific is horrible.

23 posted on 02/11/2008 4:21:48 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Flavius

Sadly, it looks like Cold War II is fully under way. Time to play tit for tat until the whole corrupt mess comes tumbling down again.

We have to make it known that any nuclear explosion on US soil or the soil of any of our allies will be considered the work of the red axis and that we will retaliate accordingly. Even if China and Russia don’t launch it their cat’s paws in Iran and North Korea will probably be responsible.


24 posted on 02/11/2008 4:21:49 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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To: Jeff Head
I think this is the first time it's happened since 2004 when a bomber flew over the Kitty Hawk.

The fact that the story has been released to various agencies now at the same time shows an effort by the Navy to get this news out there, shows how pissed they are about it.

25 posted on 02/11/2008 4:26:19 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: null and void
Tattle-tails were common during the cold war from Vietnam to the fall of the Berlin Wall. They were Soviet intelligence gathering ships; ugly trawler types of a few hundred tons. They followed our carrier battle groups in general and the carrier itself in particular. They bristled with antennas to monitor communications and record every move we made and provide targeting information. They often followed close in the wake of the carrier. Our aircraft often had to literally fly over them in order to trap aboard. They knew before next of kin knew, if a US aircraft had a mishap.

The carrier could always outrun the tattle-tail if need be, but eventually they always caught up. We really, really looked forward to the order to wax the commie bastards.

26 posted on 02/11/2008 4:27:55 PM PST by Jacquerie (McCain will offer battle to Islam - The Obamabeast will offer our heads.)
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To: Jeff Head


27 posted on 02/11/2008 4:34:52 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: Dusty Road

Oh yeah, then the one loitering launches a Sunburst missle and takes out the Nimitz.


28 posted on 02/11/2008 4:36:32 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Mr. Brightside
“Things like this make McCain look a whole lot better than Hillary or Obama” Yeah, it would be so comforting to know Mcinsane was in control. I would sooner bid in a used toilet auction than choose between the above three.
29 posted on 02/11/2008 4:39:47 PM PST by TBall
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To: Jacquerie

Thanks


30 posted on 02/11/2008 4:41:23 PM PST by null and void (President Hillary!ô Clinton? Time to invest in body bags. Again...)
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To: Jeff Head
Chill. It is called international airspace. They can fly where they wish. No dereliction involved unless they weren’t tailed by our guys.
31 posted on 02/11/2008 4:41:50 PM PST by Jacquerie (McCain will offer battle to Islam - The Obamabeast will offer our heads.)
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To: Flavius
The official was speaking on condition of anonymity because the reports on the flights were classified as secret.

How does this happen? Shouldn't Mr. anonymity be fired?

32 posted on 02/11/2008 4:43:10 PM PST by Hot Tabasco ( Donít go messing with Smokey Taylor. He just bought a whole bunch of fresh ammo.)
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To: Jacquerie

29 September 2006 — NORAD scrambled Canadian CF-18s from CFB Cold Lake in Central Alberta and American F-15s out of an airbase in Alaska to intercept “a number of the Russian Tu-95 Bear heavy bombers participating in an annual Russian air force exercise near the coast of Alaska and Canada.” This launch was a result of the bombers penetrating the North American Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ).

May 2007 — the Royal Air Force scrambled two Tornado fighters from RAF Leuchars in Scotland to intercept a Tu-95 observing the Royal Navy exercise Neptune Warrior.

July 2007 — two Royal Norwegian Air Force F-16s (from Bodø, Norway) and subsequently two RAF Tornados (from RAF Leeming, England) intercepted two Tu-95s as they allegedly made their way down the Norwegian coast towards Scotland.

August 2007 — two Tu-95s flew towards the U.S. base on Guam, where they were intercepted by U.S. fighter planes. Maj Gen Pavel Androsov of the Russian Air Force told a news conference, “We renewed the tradition when our young pilots flew by Guam in two planes. We exchanged smiles with our counterparts who flew up from a U.S. carrier and returned home.”[8][9] However, the Pentagon denied that any aircraft were sent up, saying that the proximity of the bombers was not close enough to prompt a response from the carriers.

17 August 2007 — two RAF Typhoons were launched to intercept and shadow a Tu-95 that had veered towards British airspace over the North Sea. The Tu-95 later turned away from UK airspace.

6 September 2007 — Two Norwegian F-16s tracked eight Tu-95s over the Barents Sea[12] as they neared Norwegian airspace. The bombers flew past Norway and continued towards British airspace where four RAF Tornados were scrambled from RAF Leeming (in two waves of two), before the Russian planes turned away.[13] It was the same day that Canadian Forces’ CF-18s and Russian Tu-95s met outside Canadian airspace near Inuvik, Northwest Territories. The CF-18s were scrambled when Tu-95s were seen flying outside Canadian airspace.

On 22 November 2007, F-22A Raptors of the 90th fighter squadron performed their first intercept of two Russian Tu-95MS ‘Bear-H’ bombers in Alaska. This was the first time that F-22s had been called to support a NORAD mission.

09 February 2008, 24 aircraft including F-15 Eagles and an E-767 AWAC from the Japanese air force scrambled and gave “a notice, then a warning and another a notice and a warning,” as a Russian Tu-95MS ‘Bear-H’ violated the country’s airspace during a three-minute flyover of Sofugan in the Izu Islands. Japan formally issued a strong protest, demanded prevention of future incidents and presented a protest note to the Russian Embassy in Tokyo. Russian officials conversely stated that four Tupolev Tu-95 bombers completed a 10-hour mission over the Pacific on Saturday, but “our strategic aviation planes did not violate Japanese airspace.”

On 11 February 2008, four American FA-18 fighters were scrambled and tracked the bombers after two TU-95 Bear bombers flew over a US aircraft carrier in the Western Pacific.

It is curious that Nimitz and the rest of the group was involved in a very large NATO naval excercise off SoCal prior to leaving a couple weeks ago.


33 posted on 02/11/2008 4:45:51 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Hot Tabasco
Maybe not so secret...

One of the Tupolevs flew over the Nimitz at an altitude of about 600 metres, said Mark Matsunaga, a spokesman for the US Pacific Fleet in Honolulu."

34 posted on 02/11/2008 4:45:52 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: Nachum

Auroras are already on the case


35 posted on 02/11/2008 4:53:50 PM PST by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: Flavius

I feel like I am a kid again and it is the Cold War. The difference is that we don’t have Reagan.


36 posted on 02/11/2008 4:53:58 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps
The difference is that we don’t have Reagan.

Lucky you. I had Kennedy...

37 posted on 02/11/2008 4:55:08 PM PST by null and void (President Hillary!ô Clinton? Time to invest in body bags. Again...)
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To: al baby

Let’s hope does actually do exist.


38 posted on 02/11/2008 4:55:53 PM PST by jlasoon
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To: Nachum

We now have better toys than the SR-71.


39 posted on 02/11/2008 4:56:04 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: jlasoon

You reallly don’t think they spend 700 dollars for a hammer and 6000 dollars for toilet seats do you ???


41 posted on 02/11/2008 4:59:50 PM PST by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: al baby

With this administration, nothing would surprise me.


42 posted on 02/11/2008 5:02:06 PM PST by jlasoon
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To: Flavius

2,000 feet above is ridiculous. Doing it twice is qaudruple ridiculous.

They should be shot down next time.


43 posted on 02/11/2008 5:02:38 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: Jeff Head

It would seem to me, flying right over a carrier at low atltitude would be completely beyond the pale. How could the defenders possibly know they weren’t planning on sinking it? If they were attempting to sink it, then we would have allowed the Russians to simply sink a carrier with no defense.


44 posted on 02/11/2008 5:04:42 PM PST by yarddog (`)
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To: Flavius

The U.S. has defended the plan as necessary to protect its European allies from possible attacks by Iran.


I do not buy this. If we are so scared of Iran then invite the Russians as well. Russians have been attacked by Iranians and fought wars with them a number of times ..the US never has except through Iran’s terrorist network.


45 posted on 02/11/2008 5:05:17 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Flavius

I think I read somewhere that the Ruskies were overflying British waters. It might have been last Summer.


46 posted on 02/11/2008 5:07:47 PM PST by alarm rider ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -)
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To: Jacquerie

And frozen turkeys just happen to fall out of F/A-18s... ;-)


47 posted on 02/11/2008 5:07:55 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: TBall
I would sooner bid in a used toilet auction than choose between the above three.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

48 posted on 02/11/2008 5:10:17 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Constitution does not give me the authority to run your life - Ron Paul)
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To: Jacquerie

I think that the knee-jerkers here would get pretty upset if our planes were shot down as they do the same thing to others’ ships.


49 posted on 02/11/2008 5:12:15 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Hillary and obama would like to get together with the Russians and China and hold hands and sing Kumbi ya.
Nothing like a strong President and a strong defense policy!


50 posted on 02/11/2008 5:13:45 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Id rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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