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Bill Clinton derides Obama candidacy as ‘smoke and mirrors’
The Examiner [Washington, DC] ^ | Feb 12, 2008 | Susan Ferrechio

Posted on 02/12/2008 10:12:22 AM PST by kingattax

With Virginia considered Hillary Clinton’s best chance in the Potomac Primary, Bill Clinton packed his schedule with three stops Monday in the Old Dominion, where he tried to convince voters that his wife’s experience trumps Barack Obama’s “smoke and mirrors” candidacy.

Clinton’s first stop of the day was at the University of Mary Washington in Fredericksburg, where he barely referred to Obama by name but alluded to him often as the lesser choice for the Democratic nomination, a candidate who has style but lacks Hillary Clinton’s substance.

“You have to decide what this election is about,” Clinton told a room of 600 students, his voice hoarse from making four campaign speeches a day earlier in the District and Maryland. “You have to decide what makes the best president. You want someone with the right vision, the right plans and ability to get the job done. If that’s the test, I don’t think the question is close.”

Outside of those traits, “all the rest is smoke and mirrors,” Clinton said in reference to his wife’s more charismatic rival.

Clinton has previously tried to paint Obama as a political lightweight. When asked by TV host Charlie Rose whether Obama was “more symbol than substance,” he responded: “I get tickled watching him. He’s got great skills.”

Asked in New Hampshire about Obama’s opposition to the war in Iraq, Clinton said: “Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.”

Although race might play a significant role in the primaries, Bill Clinton stayed away from the topic in Fredericksburg. He previously angered African-Americans by comparing Obama’s campaign in South Carolina to those of Jesse Jackson, who ran as a black candidate and was never a serious contender.

On Monday, Clinton emphasized Hillary Clinton’s experience in the Senate and her days as first lady, asserting that she helped win peace in Ireland and achieve rights for women in Senegal


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; billary; billclinton; clintonmachine; democratparty; elections; fredericksburg; hillary; hillaryclinton; obama; thatsracist; va2008
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1 posted on 02/12/2008 10:12:26 AM PST by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Never thought I would be rooting for Bill and Hill.


2 posted on 02/12/2008 10:14:49 AM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: kingattax

Takes one to know one.


3 posted on 02/12/2008 10:15:09 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: kingattax

Clinton is right. I just heard several of Algonquin’s supporters interviewed. they are the most mindless creatures I have ever heard. He says nothing. They know nothing about him.


4 posted on 02/12/2008 10:15:24 AM PST by isrul
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To: kingattax
Holy Cow! I find my agreeing with BJ Clinton!

Note to Bill, your wife doesn't have the experience to be POTUS either.

5 posted on 02/12/2008 10:15:45 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (Wandering in the wasteland of GOP RINO's.)
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To: kingattax

Wasn’t there a column just this morning predicting that there’s no way Bubba could keep his mouth shut and let this be about Shrillary.


6 posted on 02/12/2008 10:15:57 AM PST by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: kingattax

Bubba's just blowing smoke up *********** again.

7 posted on 02/12/2008 10:16:09 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: kingattax

I’m sure “smoke and mirrors” will go over a lot better than “fairy tale.” Not. Sounds like Bill has done it again.


8 posted on 02/12/2008 10:16:09 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: kingattax

First time I completely agree with the rapist.


9 posted on 02/12/2008 10:16:10 AM PST by nowings (John McCain can go to he!!)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Compared to his wife’s campaign of arsenic and old lace.


10 posted on 02/12/2008 10:16:23 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: kingattax
Keep it up Bill! You, as SINO are Obama’s most effective tool.
11 posted on 02/12/2008 10:16:35 AM PST by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: Always Right

“Never thought I would be rooting for Bill and Hill.”

For real. It seems safer to go with the socialist you know rather than the one you don’t know.


12 posted on 02/12/2008 10:16:51 AM PST by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: kingattax

He’s correct but he needs to shut his hole if his old lady is to stand a chance, and we need her on the ticket.


13 posted on 02/12/2008 10:16:59 AM PST by newnhdad
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To: kingattax

I thought he had repented for trashing Obama, and turned over a new leaf. Didn’t last long . . .


14 posted on 02/12/2008 10:17:07 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: kingattax

The first time she’s been right about anything.


15 posted on 02/12/2008 10:18:04 AM PST by Perdogg (Vice President Richard B Cheney - A National Treasure)
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To: Always Right
Nor did I ever think I would agree with himm at least the part about Obama's campaign nothing but smoke and mirrors. of course so is Hillary's.

This is such a close one on who to root for. I think Hillary would be a much easier target and I think McCain would not fair well compared to "every woman's fantasy" Obama. However since I beleive it's inevitiable that the socialists are going to win this election I may have to root for the one that doesn't look, sound and act like my Mother-In-Law.

16 posted on 02/12/2008 10:19:06 AM PST by marlon
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To: GovernmentShrinker

He’s apparently a slow learner.


17 posted on 02/12/2008 10:19:47 AM PST by Texas Mulerider
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
Then you don't agree with Bill:

“You have to decide what this election is about,” Clinton told a room of 600 students, his voice hoarse from making four campaign speeches a day earlier in the District and Maryland. “You have to decide what makes the best president. You want someone with the right vision, the right plans and ability to get the job done. If that’s the test, I don’t think the question is close.”

Outside of those traits, “all the rest is smoke and mirrors,” Clinton said in reference to his wife’s more charismatic rival.

The choice isn't between Obama and Hillary. It is between Obama, Hillary, McCain, and none of the above.

I question whether any of the candidates have the "right plans" and one or two of them may have the organization to "get the job done" but I disagree that it is a job worth doing.

And the Clintons have shown (even in this scampaign) that they are willing to smack down the press and seek retribution against journalists/critics are unkind to the Queen and her royal family. Who wants 4 years of that supression of free speech?

18 posted on 02/12/2008 10:19:51 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: TCats

“You have to decide what this election is about,” Clinton told a room of 600 students, his voice hoarse from making four campaign speeches a day earlier in the District and Maryland. “You have to decide what makes the best president. You want someone with the right vision, the right plans and ability to get the job done. If that’s the test, I don’t think the question is close.”

Outside of those traits, “all the rest is smoke and mirrors,” Clinton said in reference to his wife’s more charismatic rival.


Does anyone else notice that Bill is telling the people that it’s up to them to decide what the election is about, then proceeds to tell them what the criteria are for voting, and these criteria just happen to criticize Obama and play to Hillary’s perceived strengths?


19 posted on 02/12/2008 10:20:06 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: kingattax
Politics - the art of making the impossible appear possible. Bill is pissed because this guy runs on nothing better than he does. Too bad. We need this. I hope Obama wins the dem side. He will be mightily tested in the general election.
20 posted on 02/12/2008 10:20:16 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: kingattax

he tried to convince voters that his wife’s experience trumps Barack Obama’s “smoke and mirrors” candidacy.

Good one Bubba!....Your wifes experience IS “smoke and mirrors” also.


21 posted on 02/12/2008 10:21:53 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: kingattax

22 posted on 02/12/2008 10:22:02 AM PST by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: marlon
I may have to root for the one that doesn't look, sound and act like my Mother-In-Law.

Boy that is scary. Your mother in law looks like Obama?

23 posted on 02/12/2008 10:22:45 AM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: kingattax
On Monday, Clinton emphasized Hillary Clinton’s experience in the Senate and her days as first lady, asserting that she helped win peace in Ireland

According to the Washington Post that is basically a huge over exxageration i.e. a lie. Clinton and Northern Ireland (Facts checks by the Washington Post

From the article:

The Facts

It is true that Hillary visited Northern Ireland more times than Bill. By my count, she went there six times between 1995 and 2000, while he went four times. But she accompanied her husband as first lady on those four occasions, so they were hardly "independent" visits. (She would sometimes fly in a day early to give a lecture.) She made two visits by herself to the province, in May 1999, when she was the keynote speaker to a women's conference, and a 12-hour trip in October 1997, when she gave a lecture at the University of Ulster.

These visits provide a useful insight into Clinton's first lady experience, and how helpful it will be to her if she makes it all the way back to the White House as president. I just spoke to Senator George Mitchell, the Clinton administration's leading Northern Ireland peace negotiator, who said that Hillary was "not involved directly" in the diplomatic negotiations that led to the landmark April 1998 Good Friday agreement on power-sharing. On the other hand, Mitchell credits Clinton with taking an intelligent interest in the issues and getting acquainted with many of the key players.

24 posted on 02/12/2008 10:22:50 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Always Right

You need to read the history of the Clintons...or
why they need to stay out of the White House..
geez..these people only care about themselves..
power hungry and hate our own Military...besides
the strange deaths of many of their “friends.” We
had them once and they turned the nations capital
into a whorehouse...besides lying, stealing,etc. JK


25 posted on 02/12/2008 10:22:52 AM PST by sanjacjake
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Let’s look back to 1992 when GHW Bush critized Clinton over having no foreign experience and then Clinton saying he was going to focus on domestic issues and made much of his “legacy” in foreign actions.

And then when Gore was facing Bush, we were told how necessary foreign experience was for the job and how GW Bush was ill prepared for the office.

And then in 2004 we were told how Kerry served but Bush did not and may have gone AWOL WHILE Kerry was standing shoulder to shoulder with Clinton a known draft dodger.

Socialists lie. Always. It is just so much talk to get the votes. None of it means a hill of beans to the DNC.


26 posted on 02/12/2008 10:23:30 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: kingattax

Wow! Mrs. Clinton brought peace to Ireland, and women’s rights to Senegal. Thats got to be right up there with tearing down the Berlin Wall.


27 posted on 02/12/2008 10:23:34 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: nowings

That Hillary Clinton has experience? Get real.


28 posted on 02/12/2008 10:23:54 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: kingattax

Bill’s just jealous that all those lefty women are fawning over Obama, as the new American Idol.

The more that Bill campaigns for Hillary, the more people (especially the younger voters) are reminded of the whirlwind of turmoil that surrounded the Clintons.

The Obama voters don’t even want hear about issues, they don’t care about issues because they are burned out on the negativity of the Democrat Party. They are convinced that a Hillary presidency would just bring more of the same.

Kids just want to have fun and Obama’s message is really, Don’t worry, be happy.


29 posted on 02/12/2008 10:24:01 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Why not drop all pretenses, Bubba, and just tell us that you and Hillary are running as a team, and that you are running for a 3rd term. Tell us that the 22nd amendment is a legal technicality, and that Clintonism is all about finding loopholes to do whatever it is you want to do.


30 posted on 02/12/2008 10:24:18 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: kingattax

Re Iraq Hillary is a big waffler. Barrack is consistently against our involvement and is still touting the populist line from 18 months ago when the local sunnis were still against us. We need a guy like McCain run against a guy like Obama. It’s perfect.

As far as the presidency goes, foreign policy comes first, then judges, then tazes. Bill and Hillary are more of the same lazy hazy BS. We need clarity. McCain and OBH are as far apart as you can be and quite frankly that’s the way it’s playing out on the street. No hazy lazy like Hillary and her tired waffle politics imply.

Iraq - Up or down. Simple.


31 posted on 02/12/2008 10:24:55 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I thought he had repented for trashing Obama, and turned over a new leaf.

I guess what he turned over was only a figleaf. (Yuck.)

32 posted on 02/12/2008 10:25:48 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: kingattax
Bubba....She doesn't have any experience....and neither does Obama. They're two turkeys!!

And if she wasn't married to Bubba, we'd all be going..."HIllary, who?"

33 posted on 02/12/2008 10:26:29 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: sanjacjake
You need to read the history of the Clintons...

You think it really matters? Either with Obama or Clinton we are headed towards socialism hell. The same commies will be in power under either administration. Hillary gives the GOP the only chance to win, as Hillary negatives are huge. Obama is also much more capable of fooling people into thinking he is not a left-wing nutcase.

34 posted on 02/12/2008 10:26:49 AM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: kingattax

“asserting that she helped win peace in Ireland”

I hadn’t realized that Ireland was at war....


35 posted on 02/12/2008 10:26:54 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

and neither did Bill, frankly. Which is only ONE of the many reasons his tenure was such a catastrophe, on so many levels.


36 posted on 02/12/2008 10:27:02 AM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: kingattax

I admit, I concur with Bill Clinton that, as of today (and with apologies to Gertrude Stein and the City of Oakland), “there is no there there” yet for Obama. He has the tools; he just hasn’t built anything yet other than a win in the Dem Senate primary in IL 2 years ago. (Having won the primary in that state, he was obviously going to win the general, particularly in that year.)


37 posted on 02/12/2008 10:29:01 AM PST by pogo101
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To: kingattax
Bill Clinton is the apotheosis of the Smoke-and-Mirror politician. He should know one when he ses one.
38 posted on 02/12/2008 10:29:11 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Yeah, Bill,

Obama is an empty suit that speaks really well but has no substance -

and your wife is an unlikeable hateful bitch.


39 posted on 02/12/2008 10:29:47 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Well said....To Bubba and Shillary, the law is there to be broken.


40 posted on 02/12/2008 10:31:57 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: kingattax

How can anyone take Bill seriously when he criticizes others?

Whatever he accuses others of, he is always 100 times more guilty of the same thing.


41 posted on 02/12/2008 10:33:17 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: kingattax

...and another reference to “smoke”....


43 posted on 02/12/2008 10:34:57 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: kingattax

Willie has always been a beacon of veracity.


44 posted on 02/12/2008 10:35:57 AM PST by tumblindice (Outer Party to Inner Party: "We don't love Big Brother.")
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To: Eva

that will change as the nomination gets real ugly


45 posted on 02/12/2008 10:36:41 AM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: kingattax
...smoke and mirrors...

Another crack crack.

Oh, way to go, Bubba!

46 posted on 02/12/2008 10:36:45 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: kingattax

It takes one to know one, Billy Jeff.


47 posted on 02/12/2008 10:36:53 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (I want both the leftist Democrats and RINO McCainiacs to lose. A pox on both their houses!)
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To: kingattax
“Outside of those traits, “all the rest is smoke and mirrors,” Clinton said in reference to his wife’s more charismatic rival.”

Slick Willy’s correct. That’s all Obama is. An empty suit, albeit an articulate, well packaged one.

48 posted on 02/12/2008 10:39:34 AM PST by Minn. 4 Bush
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49 posted on 02/12/2008 10:42:21 AM PST by Gritty (The quagmire isn't in Iraq but at home – Mark Steyn)
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To: BenLurkin

Sounds like Team Clinton is gettin’ spooked.


50 posted on 02/12/2008 10:42:41 AM PST by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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