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Bush calls modern-day noose displays 'deeply offensive'
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Posted on 02/12/2008 1:22:02 PM PST by Sir Gawain

Bush calls modern-day noose displays 'deeply offensive' February 12, 2008 16:00 EST

WHITE HOUSE (AP) -- President Bush says recent displays of nooses are disturbing, and show that some Americans are losing sight of suffering that African Americans have endured throughout history.

Marking African American history month at the White House, Bush says the era of lynching is "a shameful chapter in American history." He says displaying a noose "is not a harmless prank," and that the word "lynching" shouldn't be mentioned in jest.

Bush says the noose is a symbol of "gross injustice," and that Americans should agree that displaying a noose is "deeply offensive."

Among several people honored at the White House event are Congressman John Lewis, a leader of the civil rights movement, and William Coleman, the first black American to be a clerk in the Supreme Court. Coleman was also the African American to hold a Cabinet post in a Republican administration, serving as President Ford's transportation secretary.

Bush is also recognizing Earnest Green, one of the nine students who integrated Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas, and Otis Williams, the leader of the Temptations.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: africanamericans; blackhistory; bush; noose; race
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1 posted on 02/12/2008 1:22:04 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain

Just once I would like to hear a president say “People do stupid crap and more stupid people get wound up over it. Grow the hell up.”


2 posted on 02/12/2008 1:24:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (Just call me M.O.M. (Maverick opposed to McCain.))
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To: All

I feel so much better /sarc


3 posted on 02/12/2008 1:27:19 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: Sir Gawain

Bush couldn’t say anything else, but who could possibly lose sight of the suffering of Black Americans, it seems every law, school book and class, tv program, newspaper story is dedicated to that every day.


4 posted on 02/12/2008 1:27:29 PM PST by Williams
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To: Sir Gawain

How long before “Remember the Alamo” becomes offensive?


5 posted on 02/12/2008 1:28:18 PM PST by rocksblues (Tagline on hold)
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To: Sir Gawain

Many of these noose episodes seem to have been staged by leftist academics.


6 posted on 02/12/2008 1:28:21 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cripplecreek
I was unaware that displays of nooses were that prevalent these days.
I guess it must be me.
7 posted on 02/12/2008 1:28:43 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Sir Gawain

My sister was bitten by a noose.


8 posted on 02/12/2008 1:29:30 PM PST by yobid (Tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax RETREAT- Vote Democrat)
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To: Sir Gawain
PhotobucketAw Jeeze Not That Sh!t Again
9 posted on 02/12/2008 1:29:54 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Sir Gawain

I glad he could take time out of his busy day of selling American soverignty to take a stand on this burning issue.


10 posted on 02/12/2008 1:30:05 PM PST by AngryJawa ({IDPA, NRA} All Hail John Moses Browning)
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To: truthkeeper

Well, it was on the “noose”/


11 posted on 02/12/2008 1:30:45 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Sir Gawain
Otis Williams, the leader of the Temptations.

"Otis loves us!

L

12 posted on 02/12/2008 1:32:49 PM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: Sir Gawain

that’s right folks, empty nooses are “deeply offensive.” as are wearing or other wise displaying the confederate battle flag, and displaying the ten commandments.
but putting a crucifix in a bucket of urine, or defecating or burning the US flag are forms of free expression.


13 posted on 02/12/2008 1:33:50 PM PST by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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To: Sir Gawain

Far, far more whites were lynched out West than blacks were lynched in the South. Jamokes suspected of horse stealing, cattle rustling, and other such activities were routinely lynched on the spot. But, they were for the most part white, so there is no outrage.


14 posted on 02/12/2008 1:37:22 PM PST by ought-six
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To: Sir Gawain

What a bunch of PC crock. More whites were lynched in the south than blacks. Bush can take his “deeply offensive” whining and weeping elsewhere.


15 posted on 02/12/2008 1:38:10 PM PST by MBB1984
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To: rocksblues

“How long before ‘Remember the Alamo’ becomes offensive?”

It very well may be illegal in some blue states.


16 posted on 02/12/2008 1:38:35 PM PST by ought-six
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To: Sir Gawain
--what's a lot more offensive to me is the general situation that about 12% of the population commits roughly 60% of all crime, that the "black community" murders more of its own members every few months than were lynched 1865 to the present---and only a few voices are pointing this out---

--the "black community" needs to look in the mirror--

17 posted on 02/12/2008 1:38:57 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Sir Gawain
Bush says the noose is a symbol of "gross injustice," and that Americans should agree that displaying a noose is "deeply offensive."

That's an odd thing to say. I would guess that for most people, the first thing that pops into their head upon seeing a noose is not lynching.

It's more the context that would suggest that.

I would agree that nooses should not be used to intimidate people, but on the other hand, I would oppose criminalizing the mere display of nooses. That would seem to me to be in the same category as flag-burning. And then we would get into a situation where perfectly innocent displays of nooses (like Halloween or historical displays) would result in criminal charges.

19 posted on 02/12/2008 1:39:49 PM PST by B Knotts (Newt^H^H^H^HTancredo^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HFred^H^H^H^HRomney^H^H^H^H^H^HRon Paul '08)
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To: Sir Gawain
Always meant to find out if it was actually true or not, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it were: making a ‘hangman’s knot’ out of rope in the state of California is a crime.
20 posted on 02/12/2008 1:40:55 PM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Sir Gawain

So, how about the noose that hung Saddam? Or noose’s that hung rustlers in the old west?

PC is destroying this civilization.


21 posted on 02/12/2008 1:40:57 PM PST by tpanther
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To: Sir Gawain

Why is Bush bothering with this? What’s wrong with him? What about the phony noose hangings and fake racist graffiti, as with those two teachers? How about Jena? Shrub has nothing to say about that.


22 posted on 02/12/2008 1:42:32 PM PST by montag813
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To: MBB1984

Exactly...knives, swords, guns, whips...any symbol can be offensive to someone!


23 posted on 02/12/2008 1:44:18 PM PST by tpanther
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To: Sir Gawain
My husband was watching an old western last week and I saw at least 4 or 5 fellas hanged ... not a one of them was black (I refuse the PC hyphenated AA title). For quite some time in this country, lynching was how justice was carried out.

How long will it be until old western movies are required to cut-out the lynching scenes? This crap has GOT to end! I've never lynched anybody and none of these whining, sniveling, race-baiting hustlers have ever been hanged. Can we just move on for pete's sake?

Bush did have a choice of what to say and it didn't have to be this! Don't feed the whiners!

24 posted on 02/12/2008 1:44:57 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't do anything you wouldn't want to explain to the paramedics!)
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To: Sir Gawain

Shut up Bush, you effing lame lame duck!


25 posted on 02/12/2008 1:46:01 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Sir Gawain
show that some Americans are losing sight of suffering that African Americans have endured throughout history.

Bush didn't appear to mention the Jews and Catholics who also suffered from the religious hatred in those days..

26 posted on 02/12/2008 1:46:23 PM PST by scouse
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To: rocksblues
"How long before "Remember the Alamo" becomes offensive?"

As soon as Mexico complete its reconquista with the aid of leaders like Bush, McCain, Pelosi and Reid, the history books will be rewritten to show that the Alamo was the site of a glorious Mexican victory.

28 posted on 02/12/2008 1:47:18 PM PST by Truth29
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To: rockabyebaby
How many more months of this crap do we have left?

Seeing as our choices have come down to Hillobamaery or Juan McQueeg, I think our misery will be measured not in months, but years.

Drink heavily.

29 posted on 02/12/2008 1:49:00 PM PST by AngryJawa ({IDPA, NRA} All Hail John Moses Browning)
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To: Sir Gawain

Yankee: Why did you hang a noose on that man’s office door?

Neo-Nazi: Because the burning cross would not fit in the hallway.


30 posted on 02/12/2008 1:49:47 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Sir Gawain

Whether it’s Jesse Jackson or Bill Donahue of the Catholic League, some people are P.O.’ed (Perpetually Offended)

On the other hand, we often see (like on this thread for example)

“If I find ‘it’ offensive it is an outrage.”
BUT if
“It doesn’t offend me, then the overly sensitive need to ‘get over it.”

Folks, could we possibly be more self centered?


31 posted on 02/12/2008 1:49:54 PM PST by BunkDetector
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To: Sir Gawain
I knew I'd been
a Freeper too long
When I read "noose"
And thought "moose".
32 posted on 02/12/2008 1:51:16 PM PST by TonyInOhio (Looks like I need to brush up on my Spanish.)
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To: B Knotts
That's an odd thing to say. I would guess that for most people, the first thing that pops into their head upon seeing a noose is not lynching.

The first thing which pops into my head are Western movies.

The second thing that pops into my head is Saddam

The third thing that pops into my head is a Star Trek episode, for which I have no picture.

The fourth thing that pops into my head is lynchings of Southern blacks.

34 posted on 02/12/2008 1:52:01 PM PST by montag813
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To: Williams

Only 17 day’s til White History Month.....


35 posted on 02/12/2008 1:53:16 PM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: B Knotts
pops into their head

A clever entendre in a thread about nooses. :)

36 posted on 02/12/2008 1:54:45 PM PST by TonyInOhio (Looks like I need to brush up on my Spanish.)
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To: Sir Gawain

Man, it’s snowing like a *bitch* here!

(oooops!)

I am deeply sorry for that deeply offensive slur against the junior senator from New York and many other Democratic harridans. Here are my testicles, in a peach basket.


37 posted on 02/12/2008 1:55:31 PM PST by tumblindice (Chuck Norris remembers the Alamo, and he's not happy about it.)
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To: BunkDetector
Folks, could we possibly be more self centered?

Good Lord...you are missing the point. Do you really think it's helpful for the President of our country to be dwelling on such a thing in the year of our Lord 2008??

Maybe you actually think it will help people "get over it"; others, however, can disagree.

Free speech, ain't it grand?

38 posted on 02/12/2008 1:55:49 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Sir Gawain
Bush says the noose is a symbol of "gross injustice," and that Americans should agree that displaying a noose is "deeply offensive."

I find 25 million illegal aliens and counting deeply offensive...While Bush stands down at the border waving them through.

Of course, none of that matters...Because nooses are the real big issue of today...

wow...

39 posted on 02/12/2008 1:56:53 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Sir Gawain

Bathist’s are deeply offended!!!

Poor saddam. : (

ROTHFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


40 posted on 02/12/2008 2:00:23 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (All my bullets are dipped in PIG fat. How about yours?)
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To: Sir Gawain

Uh...maybe these nooses were intended for someone else, like a symbolic gesture to current politicians of all stripes or something.


41 posted on 02/12/2008 2:01:11 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Sir Gawain
It takes a rino to get away with this sort of thing. A Democrat would be worried that it would subsequently be pointed out that no one has actually been lynched and that these hoaxes are being carried out mostly by those who want us to believe that there is a serious white on black crime problem in the US when the statistics show the opposite is true to an extreme.
42 posted on 02/12/2008 2:03:36 PM PST by Perchant
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To: Sir Gawain

Bush says the noose is a symbol of “gross injustice,” and that Americans should agree that displaying a noose is “deeply offensive....

And selling out America on amnesty for illegals is deeply offensive also.


43 posted on 02/12/2008 2:06:18 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Sir Gawain

I don’t know... Are blacks typically cognizant of the noose as a symbol of lynching? Or is it something they only get worked up about after they’re told that it is a symbol of lynching? Because a noose isn’t exactly picky about the race of those who are hanged.

Just saying, that is the whole “noose” issue fabricated by way of activists informing blacks that the noose is a symbol of racism, when in fact it is a very old, very ancient form of execution, suicide, and that as a symbol of persecution, it doesn’t have much of a history as such.


44 posted on 02/12/2008 2:13:39 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Bush cannot buy a clue...but at least he hasn’t signed anymore anti-constitutional bills lately....what a wimp W has become!


45 posted on 02/12/2008 2:14:36 PM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Williams
A case went before the US Supreme Court a few years ago. The KKK claimed that they enjoyed First Amendment protection to burn crosses on someone's lawn. While some justices followed their argument, Justice Thomas pointed out that a burning cross has a clear message to black Americans. He noted that symbols have different meanings to different people.

If these nooses were meant to intimidate black folks, the POTUS was well within his role as President to decry it. The fact that he has been negligent in the area of immigration is irrelevant.

46 posted on 02/12/2008 2:14:45 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: cripplecreek

As we say in New York, “I’m wich yew!”


47 posted on 02/12/2008 2:16:28 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

I don’t think you meant to reply to me, I didn’t mention immigration. Of course no one should be able to burn a cross on someone’s lawn.


48 posted on 02/12/2008 2:17:12 PM PST by Williams
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To: Lurker

Otis Day and the Knights, if you please!


49 posted on 02/12/2008 2:18:12 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Sir Gawain

Yeah, and the Frito Bandito and the Taco Bell Chihuahua is offensive to mexicans, Indian mascots are offensive to indians, tar and feathers are offensive to whites, the Guillotine is offensive to frogs, Germans are offensive to Jews, cartoons are offensive to mooslimbs. Who gives a rip.


50 posted on 02/12/2008 2:18:28 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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