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Ed Rendell, Straight-Talker ('Some whites probably not ready to vote for an African-American...)
The New Republic via Drudge ^ | 2/12/2008 | Noam Scheiber

Posted on 02/12/2008 2:39:03 PM PST by rfp1234

Via TPM Election Central, I see that Governor Ed Rendell is back to embarrassing a presidential candidate he ostensibly supports. Here's an account of how Rendell, a Hillary supporter, recently sized up Obama's chances in Pennsylviania:

Gov. Ed "Don't Call Me 'Fast Eddie' " Rendell met with the editorial board of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette last week to talk about his latest budget. But before turning the meeting over to his number-crunchers, our voluble governor weighed in on the primary fight between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama and what the Illinois senator could expect from the good people of Pennsylvania at the polls:

"You've got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate," he said bluntly. Our eyes only met briefly, perhaps because the governor wanted to spare the only black guy in the room from feeling self-conscious for backing an obvious loser. "I believe, looking at the returns in my election, that had Lynn Swann [2006 Republican gubernatorial candidate] been the identical candidate that he was -- well-spoken [note: Mr. Rendell did not call the brother "articulate"], charismatic, good-looking -- but white instead of black, instead of winning by 22 points, I would have won by 17 or so."

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.tnr.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: blackpresident; clinton; obama; pa2008; race; racewar; rendell
Further down, another gem: "Indeed, Rendell's tenure as DNC chairman has been one long, off-the-cuff rant. The media love it (Chris Matthews of "Hardball" calls Rendell "a real mensch")."
1 posted on 02/12/2008 2:39:18 PM PST by rfp1234
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To: rfp1234

Just as a result of idle conversation, I think I know a lot aren’t....Dem & GOP.


2 posted on 02/12/2008 2:40:35 PM PST by HD1200
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To: rfp1234

Well I if were to vote for him, I would be voting for the white part. So to say that whites aren’t ready to vote for an african american, oh never mind.................


3 posted on 02/12/2008 2:42:24 PM PST by Bruinator ("It's the Media Stupid.")
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To: rfp1234

I’d vote for Obama over Rendell in a heartbeat.


4 posted on 02/12/2008 2:42:33 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: rfp1234
Ed Rendell, Straight-Talker

I couldn't get any further than that.


5 posted on 02/12/2008 2:43:48 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: rfp1234

Sissy Matthews called them Archie Bunker Democrats.


6 posted on 02/12/2008 2:43:54 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: maine-iac7

Same - a lie in the first 4 words.


7 posted on 02/12/2008 2:45:29 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: rfp1234

No problem, Fast Eddie will just get out his goon squad and beat those who resist.


8 posted on 02/12/2008 2:46:32 PM PST by mware (Americans in arm chairs doing the work of the media.)
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To: rfp1234

I still can’t believe the people here in PA elected this thing to a second term.


9 posted on 02/12/2008 2:46:36 PM PST by Racer1
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To: rfp1234

10 posted on 02/12/2008 2:47:26 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: maine-iac7

Yeah, really.

My first thought was: “Where’s the ‘Barf’ alert!”


11 posted on 02/12/2008 2:48:27 PM PST by sneakers (STILL supporting Duncan Hunter! Proudly!)
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To: rfp1234

Same thing happened to M Steele in 06, and Swann and Santorum both got their clocks cleaned in PA in 06, “but” that Zogby pre election poll hangs around the election like a dead sea gull:

30% will not vote for the Black Guy.
43% will not vote for a female CINC
28% would not vote for a Mormon.

It’s sad but true, I bet McCain does will in PA though.


12 posted on 02/12/2008 2:49:53 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: rfp1234

I would happily vote for a black man for president if that man was Thomas Sowell.


13 posted on 02/12/2008 2:50:22 PM PST by utherdoul
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To: rfp1234

The left will play this up big time.

If they can get just a few “guilt” votes in key places, it will help.

Rendell’s wording is almost EXACTLY what I expected.
My expected wording was “There are some voters that still hold just enough racist views that they won’t vote for Obama. [subtext: you wouldn’t want to be one of those, would you?]”


14 posted on 02/12/2008 2:51:16 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: rfp1234

Dr. Thomas Sowell is 10 shades darker than Borat Hussein and I would vote for him in a heartbeat. Rendell is a racist POS.


15 posted on 02/12/2008 2:51:57 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: utherdoul

Yeah, I wouldn’t have any problem voting for a black person or a woman - but not THAT black person and not THAT woman.

I’d wholeheartedly campaign for and vote for Condi.


16 posted on 02/12/2008 2:52:26 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: sneakers
My first thought was: “Where’s the ‘Barf’ alert!”

Sorry, that would have made the title too long (>100 characters) for the FR posting format...so here it is in graphic form instead.

Barf

17 posted on 02/12/2008 2:52:27 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: utherdoul

Ha. Ya beat me to it!


18 posted on 02/12/2008 2:52:32 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: rfp1234

Boolshat! I’m a genetically mixed up junkyard dog, don’t play the damned race card with me! I don’t care where your folks came from, it is no excuse to be a Dumbass!
Last damned thing any of my ancestors want from me is to let myself end up a sniveling little crybaby.


19 posted on 02/12/2008 2:52:57 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: utherdoul

I’d vote for a woman, but Margaret Thatcher isn’t a US citizen.


20 posted on 02/12/2008 2:53:49 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

We could use her about now


21 posted on 02/12/2008 2:54:46 PM PST by utherdoul
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To: rfp1234

I haven’t seen so much racism in my life until now when the Democrats are baiting each other so much.


22 posted on 02/12/2008 2:55:04 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (I'd rather oppose a Liberal Democrat than a Liberal Republican!)
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To: rfp1234

Not a black socialist liberal, no thanks.


23 posted on 02/12/2008 2:55:32 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: rfp1234

24 posted on 02/12/2008 2:56:19 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: Paleo Conservative

“I’m gonna ask you one more time... where’s my Gumbo”!

LLS


25 posted on 02/12/2008 2:56:45 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("There is no conservative alternative in the race. It's just that simple." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: rfp1234

NOT READY....

Don’t they wish!!!

They can’t figure it out with out bringing race or gender into the conversation.

Give me a Margaret Thatcher and in a heartbeat she would have my vote!!!

Give me an “African-American candidate” whose philosophy agrees with mine, and I can agree with theirs - and by the way - whether male, female, black or white or Asian or Spanish or ? - I would vote for that person.

Do you get my picture .... it is what is in their minds and heart that I judge.

And the # 1 issue, with me, for me, is our National Security, which now includes who comes in and out of our borders. (and who takes flying lessons)

And in todays case neither hillary clinton or Barack Hussein Obama will ever meet my requirements.


26 posted on 02/12/2008 2:57:34 PM PST by malia (Thompson is still my first choice!!! Oh, well- I will vote Republican and only Republican)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Yeah, about that picture, it says things to a Southerner that the Yankees will never see.
Jimmy should come out of the closet, he ain’t fooling us!


27 posted on 02/12/2008 2:59:09 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: rfp1234
I'm not ready to vote for a socialist. I don't care what the color or gender. Playing the race card isn't going to push any "white guilt buttons" on election day. Bring me a guy like Michael Steele and I'll be pleased to give him my vote.
28 posted on 02/12/2008 3:00:52 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: rfp1234
"You've got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate"

Don't blame white conservatives! They have nothing to do with this. Blame Hispanic and Asian Democrats. It irks me how Democrats always try to toss their dirty diapers over their neighbor's fence.

29 posted on 02/12/2008 3:01:26 PM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: rfp1234
Ed Rendell, in a recent story about the PA Budget, announced an economic stimulus package that includes a tax rebate for the poorest Pennsylvanians. He described them as PA’s “hardest working citizens”. Not just hard working.
Not even SOME of the hardest working. He called the poorest folks in Pennsylvania the “hardest working citizens” in the state. Everyone else in the state who is succeeding financially must be loafing their way to prosperity. The man is an overrated moron.
30 posted on 02/12/2008 3:05:06 PM PST by LeonardFMason (LanceyHoward for President!)
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To: rfp1234

I would love to vote for a black American presidential candidate, or a female black American presidential candidate. Bring on someone worth voting for.


31 posted on 02/12/2008 3:07:47 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (anyone can be a soldier in peacetime.)
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To: rfp1234
I don't vote race, gender or party. I vote ideology.

If a purple martian supported life, tax cuts and defending the borders, I'd vote for he/she or it.

32 posted on 02/12/2008 3:07:49 PM PST by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


33 posted on 02/12/2008 3:09:10 PM PST by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Photobucket
34 posted on 02/12/2008 3:14:01 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: rfp1234

Oh, great. Now I’m sterile. ;)


35 posted on 02/12/2008 3:15:51 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: malia

Amen to that.


36 posted on 02/12/2008 3:24:07 PM PST by barker ( A smile is a curved line that sets things straight.)
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To: Reeses
"Blame Hispanic and Asian [and 'white', blue-collar] Democrats."

For Obama.

For Hillary, you could also add in 'black' Democrats.

And all generalizations, of course.

37 posted on 02/12/2008 3:25:18 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: rfp1234
Fast Eddy is right. Check out the election results of every Democratic primary in his home town of Philly
38 posted on 02/12/2008 3:29:26 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Aztlan My Azz: La Raza is Spanish for Tan Klan)
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To: rfp1234
...I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate...

Which is why I believe the GOP machine is pushing McCain.

McCain is liberal enough to garner a bunch of crossover votes from Dems that aren't comfortable voting for a black guy.

39 posted on 02/12/2008 3:29:41 PM PST by FReepaholic (Me no bottom man. Me top man.)
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To: rfp1234

I live in PA and I had no problem voting for an African-American (Lynn Swann). What I could NEVER do is vote for a Dem!


40 posted on 02/12/2008 3:46:59 PM PST by trimom
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To: rfp1234

Well, Rendell is right. A lot of whites are afraid to vote for a black man, that’s why they’re voting for Hillary. And Hillary is out there urging a lot of white people and hispanics not to vote for Obama. Good observation Rendell! Moron.


41 posted on 02/12/2008 3:51:25 PM PST by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

LOL!!


42 posted on 02/12/2008 3:53:15 PM PST by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: rfp1234

Geez Ed, there’s plenty of black leaders in business, in the community, and in the Democrat party that aren’t ready to support, nor vote for an African-American Presidential candidate. Explain that please won’t you Mr. Rendell.


43 posted on 02/12/2008 3:56:22 PM PST by mass55th
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To: rfp1234
Silly white people.

I am sure there are just as many black people who will vote for Obama just because his skin is dark; equally brain dead.

People, we need to vote for individuals who believe like we do and stand for what we do; not for any other reason!

44 posted on 02/12/2008 4:02:44 PM PST by BillT
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To: rfp1234

HAHAHA!!! Thanks!

As they say; “A picture is worth a thousand words”!


45 posted on 02/12/2008 5:47:22 PM PST by sneakers (STILL supporting Duncan Hunter! Proudly!)
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To: utherdoul

” would happily vote for a black man for president if that man was Thomas Sowell.”

Me Too!


46 posted on 02/12/2008 6:35:47 PM PST by Temple Owl (Excelsior! Onward and upward.)
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To: rfp1234
Put a sock in it, Eddie, you're embarrassing the good people of PA, my state.
47 posted on 02/12/2008 8:02:48 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: maine-iac7
Bugs Bunny

Aw, that's cute.

48 posted on 02/12/2008 8:05:06 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: rfp1234

According to the NAACP, Cankles is blacker than Obama...

“She” married to the “first black president” who’s slept with more black women than Obama.

Oh, what’s a racist to do in this situation?


49 posted on 02/13/2008 10:25:06 AM PST by rock_lobsta (I Love Global Warming!)
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To: rfp1234
"You've got conservative whites here,"

And yet Rendell, a Liberal white male, won't vote for Obama either. What a hypocrite. He points the finger at the other guy, while accusing them of doing what he's doing.

Furthermore, Rendell has a BIG mouth.

Most conservative white males AND females alike, would vote for a black male or female holding the same conservative philosophy, which Obama doesn't. If they don't vote for Obama it will be because of his Liberal philosophy.

50 posted on 02/13/2008 11:12:14 AM PST by TAdams8591
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