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Decision Time for Conservatives(Oliver North)
realclearpolitics.com ^ | February 12, 2008 | Oliver North

Posted on 02/12/2008 4:27:55 PM PST by kellynla

Just four hours after former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's pragmatic decision to suspend his campaign for the Republican presidential nomination, Sen. John McCain stood before the annual Conservative Political Action Conference and asked the assembled activists to support his bid for the White House. The "maverick" acknowledged differences he has had over the years with many in the room, offered a spirited defense of his 24-year record in Congress, and made an eloquent, self-effacing appeal for conservatives to unite in the "urgent necessity of defending the values, virtues and security of free people against those who despise all that is good about us."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008endorsements; conservatives; election; mccain; olivernorth; potus; rino; va2008
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"We need John McCain as commander in chief?"

No, "we need" Dick Cheney "as commadner in chief!"

1 posted on 02/12/2008 4:27:56 PM PST by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Ollie, if you can get McCain on his knees begging for forgiveness for deviating from the conservative cause, I might consider your endorsement worth something.


2 posted on 02/12/2008 4:29:18 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: kellynla

Conservatives should stand up and be counted = Vote Third. If you are not seen, you don’t exist.


3 posted on 02/12/2008 4:31:42 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: kellynla

Sorry Ollie. No chance.


4 posted on 02/12/2008 4:36:22 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: kellynla
We need John McCain as commander in chief.

We need John McCain like we need a hole in the head.

5 posted on 02/12/2008 4:38:09 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: kellynla

Sorry Ollie,

I’m not staying on the plantation just so I can be taken for granted and told I better like it.


6 posted on 02/12/2008 4:38:23 PM PST by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: kellynla

Read my tagline Ollie.


7 posted on 02/12/2008 4:41:46 PM PST by mkjessup (Any SOB who calls John F'in Kerry "his dear friend" will NEVER get my vote, no way, no how.)
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To: kellynla

SORRY OLLIE!! NEVER!! Not after I found out McCain took money from George SOROS!! NEVER!! George Soros has caused the deaths of some of our soldiers in Iraq!!
So sorry Ollie has been snowed along with others we have always admired in the conservative movement, but my eyes are wide open now and if the country has to suffer fools for 4 years..what difference does it make whether they are fools with a D or fools with a R?

FOCUS OUR CONSERVATIVE EFFORTS ON THE HOUSE AND SENATE RACES FOLKS!! That’s what we are going to do!


8 posted on 02/12/2008 4:44:01 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: kellynla

Dang it Ollie. Are there any conservatives out there with guts? Everybody wants to tow the party line. “I’ll vote for whoever the party nominates” is the mantra.

I’m losing faith in the whole lot of them.


9 posted on 02/12/2008 4:47:53 PM PST by snippy_about_it (The FReeper Foxhole. America's history, America's soul.)
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To: kellynla

If the election were simply a popularity contest among political parties, yeah, then supporting McCain would make some sense as it would be harmless. Well, it’s not about popularity. This is for the future of the nation. McCain and his two Democratic Senate rivals should all be bounced out the door.


10 posted on 02/12/2008 4:59:54 PM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: kellynla

“..asked the assembled activists to support his bid for the White House.”

Did he offer anything in return for any conservative vote?


11 posted on 02/12/2008 5:00:10 PM PST by 353FMG (Vote for the Person who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: kellynla

Now I know what being at the bottom feels like!

When one of my personal heroes lowers himself by begging for votes from people who love him...to ignore their primal insticts, and vote for a POS who isn’t good enough to shine Ollie’s boots.

I’m sorry Ollie, I love you man...but I won’t vote for a backstabbing, power hungry, lieing, POS, even if he pays my house off for me!

Get off your knees Ollie, McCain isn’t worth your loss of dignity!


12 posted on 02/12/2008 5:01:56 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Arrogance IS my virtue!)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
if you can get McCain on his knees begging...

Do you really believe that you could be more effective at coercing McCain than the NVA was?

13 posted on 02/12/2008 5:04:39 PM PST by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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To: kellynla

This article should be changed to “Another Conservative jumps ship and supports McCain”. I won’t support McCain as he has lost his way.


14 posted on 02/12/2008 5:16:18 PM PST by cmiller623 (Mayor Antonio Villa....or never mind. Los Angeles is doomed!)
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To: kellynla
"We need John McCain as commander in chief"

But he doesn't need us - he has made that clear.
That is fine with me. He can go his way and I go mine.

Anyway, what is this sudden drive to force everyone into some kind of Nazi lockstep in the McCainiac army?
The republican party is starting to resemble the democrat party more and more each day.

We need to bust up the two party system - they believe the country is their cattle ranch and we are their cattle.

.


15 posted on 02/12/2008 5:19:00 PM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: All
I am NOT voting for McCain.


16 posted on 02/12/2008 5:40:19 PM PST by Cindy
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To: kellynla

Ollie,

Here’s a novel idea. I agree that the GOP needs to rally around one candidate. How ‘bout if McCain does what is best for the party and bows out? Then we could rally around an actual conservative. But no...it has to be the other guy(s) that bow out.

Not this time. I think I could actually vote for Ron Paul over McCain. Although Paul is a nutcase on foreign affairs, he does actually seem to support the conservative philosophy.

Ok, maybe not Paul, but certainly not McCain.


17 posted on 02/12/2008 5:49:23 PM PST by NonLinear ("They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge." -Thomas B Reed)
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To: kellynla
When you elect a man you are blessing his record.

Shouldn't you know his record?

18 posted on 02/12/2008 5:49:38 PM PST by TigersEye (I'm a maverick. I'm sticking with conservatism.)
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To: kellynla

Not gonna happen, Ollie. You saddled the wrong horse.


19 posted on 02/12/2008 5:51:21 PM PST by TADSLOS (Juan Hernandez' Battle Cry: "Juan McCain for El Presidente! Si, se puede!")
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To: kellynla

RON PAUL!


20 posted on 02/12/2008 5:51:44 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Constitution does not give me the authority to run your life - Ron Paul)
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To: kellynla

Republicans, it’s time to come together and fight the dimocrats. (Not fight each other.)


21 posted on 02/12/2008 5:52:41 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: kellynla

Et tu, Ollie?

Forget it. McCain will lose in a landslide even with our votes.

If conservatives get behind him, as Rush said today, the indies and moderates John needs to have a hope of winning will run to Obama, as they probably will anyway.

So we, who have principles and know a Dem when we see one, are supposed to swallow hard and take it on the chin again, all for the glorious party.

Well, since it won’t matter, I’ll choose to put my lot in with those who oppose the Manchurian Candidate—maybe it will do us some good in the long run.

Just remember, Ollie, it wasn’t the conservatives that did you in, it was the blueblood GOP leadership—you know the same ones giving us McLame that you want us to move on with—that did you in.


22 posted on 02/12/2008 5:57:57 PM PST by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: Salvation; Extremely Extreme Extremist
Mark Levin has the right idea.

This isn't a time to "come together" with people who fundamentally reject our values.

McCain hasn't won anything yet-he's not even close to winning anything-and has yet to pick a running-mate, assuming he does win the nomination.

Everyone needs to chill out and stop playing kissy-face with someone who four years ago was on the verge of playing second fiddle to John Kerry.

23 posted on 02/12/2008 6:30:44 PM PST by Reaganite1984
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To: NonLinear

As far as I know, Alan Keyes is still in. I voted for him, today. Since he had no delegates, I voted for Huckabee’s in an attempt to jam up McKook.


24 posted on 02/12/2008 6:49:27 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cloverfield 2008! Why vote for a lesser monster?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You voted twice in one day? Quite the democrat, aren’t you?


25 posted on 02/12/2008 7:12:51 PM PST by Oystir
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To: kellynla

Listen up you news media Republicans that keep trying to convince conservatives to vote for McCain ...

We know that if he wins this election the entire elite bunch of politicians, media, and corporate types will rush in a mob to give amnesty to illegal immigrants faster then he can be sworn in for president. This is why no matter how much you whine, complain, or beg for us to change our mind you are basically screwed.

The conservative base is picking the nuclear option when it comes to McCain.


26 posted on 02/12/2008 7:41:05 PM PST by Gen-X-Dad
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To: ex-snook
Conservatives should stand up and be counted = Vote Third. If you are not seen, you don’t exist.

Voting third party is the epitome of not existing. I know, I've done it before, in a presidential election. Have you? It's a total waste. I don't think people who advocate 3rd party this year have any clue what they're talking about. It's the only guaranteed lose-lose option.

If you vote third party, and McCain loses, we get a DEM. If you vote third party, and McCain wins, he won without your help and owes you nothing. Either way, if you vote third party, the winner owes you nothing. If you vote McCain and he wins, you helped deliver victory, and he owes you for that. If you write him off, you guarantee that you have no seat at the table. It's the DUMBEST option of all.

27 posted on 02/12/2008 7:52:52 PM PST by Huck (Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.)
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To: NonLinear
Not this time. I think I could actually vote for Ron Paul over McCain. Although Paul is a nutcase on foreign affairs, he does actually seem to support the conservative philosophy.

So you'll trade surrender for a tax cut? Pathetic.

28 posted on 02/12/2008 7:54:18 PM PST by Huck (Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.)
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To: Gen-X-Dad
The conservative base is picking the nuclear option when it comes to McCain.

yea. helping to elect a democrat. idiots.

29 posted on 02/12/2008 7:55:02 PM PST by Huck (Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.)
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To: Hazcat
I’m not staying on the plantation just so I can be taken for granted and told I better like it.

You have no clue what you're talking about.

30 posted on 02/12/2008 7:55:38 PM PST by Huck (Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.)
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To: mkjessup

Re: your tagline. It’s a Senatorial nicety. Get a grip.


31 posted on 02/12/2008 7:56:25 PM PST by Huck (Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.)
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To: Huck

Yes you are right, it sucks that a democrat is going to be the next president and the congress is going to get wiped out. The media guys are high-fiving each other for finally getting McCain through the primaries. They will slice and dice him so fast he will make Bob Dole look invincible. If by some bizarre chance he wins, they also win, because then the message becomes “look the conservative base picked McCain, that means no one no longer opposes amnesty”. They are already floating that idea and can’t contain themselves taunting the base. This is the worse case scenario for the Republican party.

Our country is being systematically absorbed into the globalist framework and American citizens better get used to the fact that the guys running the country are perfectly happy with dissolving our national sovereignty. They have effectively checkmated the conservative base by getting McCain in and there is no stopping this from happening with the remaining three candidates. It is a win, win scenario for the globalists.

The conservative base has been forced to make a last stand by rejecting McCain and fighting the Democrats tooth and nail over the upcoming amnesty plunge that will dissolve the southern border. Living in Texas, I can tell you the southwestern states are being buried by the flood of human beings pouring into this country. That is why conservatives are refusing to budge on McCain who is the champion of amnesty.


32 posted on 02/12/2008 8:25:53 PM PST by Gen-X-Dad
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To: Huck
Re: your tagline. It’s a Senatorial nicety. Get a grip.

Re: Wise the eff up. McInsane has worked hand-in-glove with "his dear friend" over the years to screw the families of MIA's in Vietnam, and that is established fact.

Nothing 'nice' about it, especially when the screwing is coming from a former POW who ought to know better.

Go climb back into your RINO-hole, fool.
33 posted on 02/13/2008 2:19:23 AM PST by mkjessup (Any SOB who calls John F'in Kerry "his dear friend" will NEVER get my vote, no way, no how.)
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To: kellynla
We've all seen John McCain's conservative credentials...

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34 posted on 02/13/2008 2:24:00 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

That sums it up FRiend.

Let the fools and morons sell out their principles for some faux-’conservative’ who has been ‘endorsed’ by our own “compassionate-conservative” RINO-in-Chief.

If the GOP collapses due to their ill-fated turn to the left, so be it.

“I didn’t leave the GOP, the GOP left me”


35 posted on 02/13/2008 2:29:14 AM PST by mkjessup (Any SOB who calls John F'in Kerry "his dear friend" will NEVER get my vote, no way, no how.)
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To: Huck
Wake the hell up. I know this is not a popular opinion on this site, but what is the point of fighting overseas when our foundation back home is being shredded and our liberty is being destroyed - by the same people (like McCain) who want us to be in perpertual war??

It's ignorant and asinine to say we just want a "tax cut", and would trade "surrender" for that. I want to preserve our constitution and our God-given rights and liberties, is that such a bad thing? You are the one who would trade liberty for "security" and in doing that, throw out the very thing that is worth fighting for, our freedom and constitution and our sovereingty - without that, what's the point?

36 posted on 02/13/2008 2:34:24 AM PST by incindiary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVodI85NLMQ)
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To: Gen-X-Dad

McCain is indistinguishable from President Bush on illegal immigration and I didn’t see too many conservatives rejecting him.


37 posted on 02/13/2008 4:58:30 AM PST by Huck (Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.)
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To: mkjessup

That must be why so many Vets vote for him. /s


38 posted on 02/13/2008 5:01:49 AM PST by Huck (Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.)
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To: kellynla

Sorry Ollie. NO.


39 posted on 02/13/2008 5:01:53 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: incindiary
I want to preserve our constitution and our God-given rights and liberties, is that such a bad thing?

By putting the DEMs in charge of everything?

40 posted on 02/13/2008 5:02:40 AM PST by Huck (Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.)
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To: Temple Owl

ping


41 posted on 02/13/2008 5:04:07 AM PST by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: kellynla
What has McCain done to reconcile with Conservatives?

AN uninspiring speech at CPAC, and list of endorsements from Washington insiders.

Doesn’t this guy realize without trust and commitment from the base he’snot going anywhere? And all he does is goes after the mushy middle.

42 posted on 02/13/2008 5:07:07 AM PST by Sybeck1 (You trust this joker on the Supreme Court? He did vote to confirm Ruth Buzzie Ginsburg!)
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To: incindiary
I like this from your home page:

Great Nations rise and fall...
The people go from bondage
to spiritual faith
from spiritual faith
to great courage
from courage
to liberty
from liberty
to abundance
from abundance
to selfishness
from selfishness
to complacency
from complacency
to apathy
from apathy
to dependency
from dependency
back again into bondage...

Alexander Tytler

43 posted on 02/13/2008 5:08:49 AM PST by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: kellynla
I hope my fellow conservatives will decide as I have: We need John McCain as commander in chief.

Dear Ollie,

Not a snowball's chance in the hot place. Time for you to get outside the Beltway for a little while. 'Pod.

44 posted on 02/13/2008 5:09:18 AM PST by sauropod (I'd rather be waterboarded than vote for John McCain)
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To: kellynla
“No, “we need” Dick Cheney “as commadner in chief!””

It’s not going to happen, even if you jump up and down and hold your breath.

It’s either McCain, or Clinton or Hussein and if conservatives want to hand over the White House to a socialist or a muzzie on principles, I want nothing more to do with conservatism.

So be a good, principled conservative. Stay home this November and let the dems take the House, Senate and WH.

45 posted on 02/13/2008 5:10:03 AM PST by toddlintown (Building More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I like his website!

Excerpt:

Asked about Senator McCain, Keyes said,

“He [has] betrayed conservatism in the name of bipartisanship, but actually in the name of trying to serve his own presidential ambition. And that includes the McCain-Feingold bill, a direct assault on freedom of speech, on the ability of conservative grassroots organizations to raise money, on their ability to communicate with the electorate.”

Continued Keyes, “[McCain] has made a determined effort to shut down true democratic self-government in this country, so that people can’t organize, can’t raise money, can’t associate, and can’t communicate about the records of their representatives. And that kind of assault is a deadly blow against the possibility of self-government and constitutionalism in America.”

“And we’re just supposed to forget about it now,” Keyes said, “and listen to his words that his pollsters tell him he’s got to say to please and placate people, but I don’t think people are that stupid. I really don’t,” Keyes said.

“The same is true of the border security issue,” Keyes remarked. “[McCain] fought tooth and nail against the Minutemen and others who wanted to see the barriers put up and border security assured. Instead, he promoted an amnesty bill that would have devastated the sovereignty of the American people and would have produced demographic changes that confirm the invasion that, in effect, has taken place on our nation’s territory and soil.”

Said Keyes, “And now he wants us to believe, ‘Oh, I’m in favor of strong border security, because I know you people won’t vote for me if you know the truth.’ Are we that stupid? Have we really become that gullible as a people that we let these politicians change their words and will ignore their actual work and record in the process? I hope not, and don’t think so.”


46 posted on 02/13/2008 5:41:49 AM PST by NonLinear ("They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge." -Thomas B Reed)
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To: Huck; All
That must be why so many Vets vote for him. /s

Try refuting the facts instead of a puerile non-answer. Since the 90's, McCain has worked to keep the official records of POWs/MIAs classified, specifically the documents relating to debriefing of returned POWs, including his own.

Michael Isikoff of Newsweek once stated that he had "seen" McCain's record and that it contained nothing "incriminating" but then admitted that a.) there were portions that were redacted, and b.) it was McCain himself who gave the highly edited 'peek' to Isikoff. Shades of John F'in Kerry.

If that's not enough for your McCainiac mentality, in 1996 your boy gutted the proposed Missing Service Personnel Act, i.e., The original act provided for criminal penalties for anyone, such as military bureaucrats in Washington, who destroy or cover up or withhold from families any information about a missing man. McCain erased this part of the law. He said the penalties would inhibit the Pentagon’s ability to recruit personnel for its POW/MIA office.

As for your assertion that "vets vote for McCain", in the 2000 race, McCain carried the vet vote only in the states that he won, like Michigan and New Hampshire, but was rejected by them in the majority of states that he lost, like New York, Ohio and California. The complete total of veterans votes when tabulated went to then-Governor George W. Bush.

Don't come crawling into a thread spouting off pro-RINO bullsh*t unless you're prepared to get slapped upside the head with the facts.

Have a nice day.
47 posted on 02/13/2008 5:44:42 AM PST by mkjessup (Any SOB who calls John F'in Kerry "his dear friend" will NEVER get my vote, no way, no how.)
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To: kellynla

Dick Cheney ‘08!


48 posted on 02/13/2008 5:46:43 AM PST by Nascar Dad (www.AntiMicrobialProduct.com)
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To: Huck
So you'll trade surrender for a tax cut? Pathetic.

No, I refuse to vote for a lying, untrustworthy, power hungry, self absorbed, liberal posing as candidate worthy of leading this country. But, hey, if that's what you like in a candidate, go right ahead and vote for him.

I never mentioned tax cuts.

And you're right...he is pathetic.
49 posted on 02/13/2008 5:48:13 AM PST by NonLinear ("They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge." -Thomas B Reed)
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To: NonLinear
That's McPathetic.
50 posted on 02/13/2008 5:56:48 AM PST by mkjessup (Any SOB who calls John F'in Kerry "his dear friend" will NEVER get my vote, no way, no how.)
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