McCain Camp to Conservatives: It’s Over
Posted on 02/13/2008 8:49:39 AM PST by Scythian
Coming off a sweep in the Potomac Primaries, John McCain’s campaign has a message for Mike Huckabee: It’s over.
The campaign released a memo after McCain won Virginia, Maryland and the District of Columbia Tuesday night saying the victories make it “mathematically impossible for Governor Huckabee to secure the Republican nomination for president.”
(Excerpt) Read more at youdecide08.foxnews.com ...
"It's over." Little Juan should remember that phrase come November...
“Though McCain’s campaign claimed there were only 774 left to be allocated, Associated Press tallies said there were 994 remaining.”
Yeah, over for the Republicans.
No it is not over. Once again McCain thinks he can cheat some people out of their rights. This time it is voting rights. Just hold on McCain, it is still a republic and the voters haven’t given you a total win yet. They might, but ignoring the fact that some states haven’t even voted yet just exposes your own disregard for our republic and the individual rights of the people.
FR poll from a year ago....
According to a posted article entitled “McCain Starts Planning for 2008 Run” Senator John McCain is considered the front-runner for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination. Would you be for or against McCain?
against 92.4% 3,058
for 7.6% 252
100.0% 3,310
Bunk! What about the GOP in Texas? Huh? This is not about party strategists. This is about representative government. There will be plenty of time to push McCain after voters have actually given him a win. Until then it is the right of the people to decide whether they want a brokered convention or a cake-walk for McCain. Let the voters decide, not the strategists.
What’s over? The Washington State Primary? The Republican primary process? The Republican Party? Conservatism?
It’s kind of funny. When this thing started and I first heard about Huckabee, I thought he sounded like a good “conservative-like” candidate that might be a “lesser of several evils”. This is normal for most elections.
However, the more I learned the less I liked his stance on things. And if you ignore his “baptist” roots and even his name and just see him as “candidate x” and then look at his record, there is really no way I could vote for him.
Meanwhile, he has also proven a fair lack of character in the way he is handling this race.
The way he’s handling this race has given me a lot more respect for him. I liked him, but I didn’t think he was tough enough. The fact that he has hung in there, despite not only the normal viciousness, but things that look suspiciously like vote fraud (WA), has made me think he might be a lot tougher than I thought, and might actually make a good president.
Reality check:
It actually IS over.
Huckabee certainly has a right to continue running. And I don’t think he’s wrong to do so if that’s what he wants to do.
But in point of fact, it IS over.
How is it a lack of character to let voters vote? They don't have to vote for him. He is just there giving voters an option. Until McCain has actually won over half the delegates, he is not yet the nominee the Republican people have chosen. Yes, I said the Republican PEOPLE -- those voters that get walked on and ignorned by the strategists who think they control the whole thing. They don't. This is REPRESENTATIVE government and the people are not finished voting yet.
Huck should do well in Texas, Ohio, North Carolina. Go Mike!
Huckabee knows and has known that he will not reach the 1,191 delegates needed. He has stated his goal is to keep McCain from getting the desired number and have the nominee chosen at convention. If it ends up being McCain, so be it. But if there is a chance for Romney or someone else to stop McCain I would like to see that!
I went from Hunter to Thompson to Romney. And I do favor Huckabee over McCain. I will still vote for the Republican nominee in November, no matter who it is.
What's the deal with a "brokered" convention? McCain will still get the nod for a run for POTUS! Huck will get the job at FEMA or something. He is going to get that job now so what's the deal with "brokered"?
The Grand Old Politburo has spoken comrades.
Because, we still have a chance, if you want to give up and have McCain fine, but don’t stop us from doing so, why is everyone so hot on stopping the American process, Let Huckabee run, he could score some major wins yet and show the RNC just how unlikely McCain is to be the president, I’m telling you this is going to be a major, major defeat for the RNC, I’m pulling a straght Democratic ticket right down the line, federal and local this election if McCain is the nominee and there are alot like me, the rest will just stay home, we’re talking a shocking defeat here for the RNC and I for one will be glad.
If for nothing else I hope Huck stays in just to give mccain the needle.
I wouldn’t vote for him if he won, but I love him being a pain in Mccain’s ass.
Even if Huckabee can’t get the 1,191 delegates before the convention, that doesn’t entitle McCain to get them and cheat the rest of the states from having a voice in the matter. If the majority of Republicans in other states do not want McCain, they should get a chance to say that so long as McCain is short of 1,191. That is their right. Look at Kansas. It couldn’t be more clear that the voters in Kansas don’t want the nominee to be McCain. Virginia disagrees. Fine. But lets let other states have a say. McCain’s win won’t be legitimate unless the voters give him the win, not the strategists.
Karl Rove did have some very good advice for McCain, however. He said McCain should stop campaigning against Huckabee and start campaigning against the Dems. Sounds like good advice to me. Huckabee isn't really a threat any longer.
Yeah, he seems tough. That is like a gun. In the hands of an honest cop it is a good thing. But there are situations, even when in the hands of a cop, it can be a bad thing.
Stalin was tough. So was Reagan.
If I agreed with Huckabee on even a small portion of what he has actually done, I would like his toughness. But I don’t.
Did he tell Huck to “calm down”?
>>How is it a lack of character to let voters vote? <<
It isn’t. But that is not what I was talking about.
McCain may still get the nod in a brokered convention. But then again he may not. What will happen is the delegates will be free to select their second preference and it may or may not add up to McCain. If he wins that way, it will be a legitimate win. If he wins because strategists drone on and pressure Huckabee to pull out before McCain has a complete win, then I will never see the win as legitimate. The strategists will have chosen and the voters will have been cheated.
Local? What's the benefit of voting Democrat on the local level? All that does is make sure the 'pipeline' for good future Presidential nominees stays empty.
Ive said it before, I’ll say it again; 2 target gift cards and a blender would make this guy go away.
We could clear that in a Freepathon in what, 2 seconds?
I’ll even through in a bailbond card for his kid, my dad has tons.
Well, obviously little Juan was just as “well known” then as he is now.
When it comes to caucuses and primaries....I am pro-choice.
As long as he promotes his message in a positive fashion and continues to garner votes, Huck should be allowed to remain in the race.
Huck shoud should show the good grace of Romney and suspend his campaign.
“I’m pulling a straght Democratic ticket right down the line, federal and local this election if McCain is the nominee...”
I’m not voting for McCain either. But please vote for conservatives in Congress. We need them to help keep the Dem President from ramming his/her liberal legislation on us. If just for your taxes alone, please don’t vote Democrat down the line.
Remember, the Huck knows nothing about numbers.
He beleives in miracles.
He can still win!
Dude, the Huckster is done.
“I’m pulling a straght Democratic ticket right down the line, federal and local this election if McCain is the nominee”
Really? Straight down the line. Doesn’t seem real smart. You’re going to make some actual conservatives suffer because you don’t like McCain? I thought I’d heard it all on FR.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a McCain lover - donated big time to Fred and then went for Romney. I’m not sitting this one out though, I have loved ones in the military - and I’m not leaving their fate to Obama or Hillary.
Huck should be able to stay in if that’s what he wants.
It is not entirely about whether Huckabee can win. It is about whether republicans in the remaining states want McCain as their nominee. They haven’t even voted yet. Until McCain reaches the winning number, their votes should still count. Many voters in those states want another option, they want Huckabee or anyone other than McCain. See Kansas. So just slow up and wait until your candidate actually wins enough support from real GOP voters in the remaining states.
Don’t forget Mississippi. Conservatives will always vote by larger numbers against McCain. I’m voting against March 4th, or are the GOP shutting the polls down?
and, Huckie, you're doing a heck of a job.
True, but we see how folks big and little are now “closing ranks”. Pathetic.
Those voters will still get to throw away their votes. Causing a brokered convention would be a disaster. Huckabee is playing for the second spot.
Do you believe this is in the best interest of our country?
And McCain is doing whats best for McCain and not for the country. If McCain were the great american he claims to be he'd realize he's unelectable and polarizing in his own party. Time for McCain to do something for the country and stand down.
Causing a brokered convention would not be a disaster. It might reveal the depth of the divide within the party, but it won’t itself create a disaster. In fact it might actually help. It would allow the people to feel more like they chose the candidate themselves, rather than having someone forced on them. If McCain stll emerges as the winner then you have time to sell him to those who distrust him. Making them feel like their vote didn’t even count won’t help bring unity or avoid disaster. It reminds me of that person who said rape victims should just look at the situation and if the rape is inevitable, they should lean back and enjoy it. I DON’T THINK SO!
It is actually good for McCain if Huck stays in the race as Obama Hussein and Hildlibeast will suck up ever last media moment.
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