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Attacks on firefighters rising, says union (UK)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ ^ | By Lucy Cockcroft

Posted on 02/13/2008 9:23:26 AM PST by marthemaria

Attacks on firefighters rising, says union

Firefighters are being subjected to an increasing number of violent attacks despite Government claims to the contrary, new figures show.

The FBU wants better protection for fire crews Crews are regularly being spat on and pelted with bricks, bottles, burning wood and stones as they try to save lives across England and Wales.

The Fire Brigades Union has revealed that assaults increased by 15 per cent last year, although government statistics show a fall of 68 per cent.

Figures obtained by the union under the Freedom of Information Act reveal the number of attacks increased from 1,300 in 2006 to 1,500 in 2007, while official data showed a drop from 1,300 to 400.

The union's report, Easy Targets?, revealed a catalogue of serious assaults.

It claims about 40 attacks occur every week, ranging from stabbings and shootings to ambushes where firefighters are pelted with bottles or bricks.

In one incident, an entire crew was taken to hospital after a gang armed with sticks and scaffolding poles attacked them.

advertisement FBU general secretary Matt Wrack said: "In some areas, attacking fire crews has become a recreational activity with very serious consequences.

"It is almost beyond belief that this can happen while they try to save lives. It cannot be part of anyone's job to face abuse, threats or attacks."

He said the problem was being addressed more effectively in Scotland, Northern Ireland and increasingly in Wales.

The FBU is calling for fire crews to receive training on dealing with violent attacks, and for more money to be invested in decent protection and catching attackers.

A spokeswoman for the Department of Local Government and Communities said the report had not been studied in full, but it would be happy to hold talks on tackling the problem.

She added: "This is an important issue and one the Government takes very seriously. It is unacceptable that firefighters should have to facesuch behaviour."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: attacks; firefighters; firemen; uk
No mention of who is doing the attacking. Could it be muslim violence?
1 posted on 02/13/2008 9:23:28 AM PST by marthemaria
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To: marthemaria

Something’s missing from this article, that’s for sure. What kind of an a-hole attacks firefighters while they’re trying to save lives and property?

I smell the Religion of Peace.


2 posted on 02/13/2008 9:25:56 AM PST by Snake65 (Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun!)
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To: marthemaria

It’s Yobs without jobs, and no one to rob, so they lob cobs cuz they’re a mob,,,,,


3 posted on 02/13/2008 9:27:04 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: marthemaria
the problem was being addressed more effectively in Scotland, Northern Ireland and increasingly in Wales.

That line suggests Muslims, since there aren't so many in those places.

4 posted on 02/13/2008 9:27:07 AM PST by squidly
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To: Snake65
The UK has a lot of idiotic white yobbery too, so it may not be entirely Islamic.

Having said that, this pattern of immigrant yoots making firefighters' and policemen's lives untenable in Islamic neighborhoods occurs in Holland, Sweden and France too, so that may be a big part of the story here too.

5 posted on 02/13/2008 9:29:02 AM PST by untenured
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To: marthemaria; Snake65; squidly

Nah, looters.


6 posted on 02/13/2008 9:30:35 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: marthemaria

Diversity, thy name is failure.


7 posted on 02/13/2008 9:33:53 AM PST by Bertha Fanation
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To: squidly

The head of the Fire Brigades Union says, “The highest numbers of attacks are in areas characterised by poor housing, poverty and few or no facilities for young people.”


8 posted on 02/13/2008 9:38:50 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Are you related to another doctor, Dr. Seuss maybe?


9 posted on 02/13/2008 9:40:55 AM PST by crghill (Jacob Harmenszoon is no friend of mine!)
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To: marthemaria

Actually, and I’m not defending the Religion of Peace here, but these attacks are 99.9% committed by young white-trash-hoodie-yobbos aged between 12-21. I’ve been over here for nearly 4 yrs. and in that time have heard over and over again about attacks on fire and rescue, and that 1/2 the time they’re “lured” into arson fires set purposely just so they can be attacked! I turn my head like a curious dog and ask “WHY”? I came over here from New Orleans, have lived in NYC and Houston and was raised in Northern Virginia just outside D.C. I have never heard of this “phenonmenon” in the U.S., it seems to be unique to a certain group of idiots in the U.K., and I will never understand it. Of course if one of these pieces of trash gets injured or killed while on their destructive rampage, they’ll have their lives saved by these great people and then their dole-sucking useless parents will sue. Sorry for the rant, but it absolutely disgusts me!


10 posted on 02/13/2008 9:44:32 AM PST by wazoo1031
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To: wazoo1031
Sorry for the rant, but it absolutely disgusts me!

Good God! Well, thanks for the rant, it was informative.

11 posted on 02/13/2008 9:48:21 AM PST by Snake65 (Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun!)
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To: marthemaria
Just wondering why these fire crews are not turning their high pressure hoses on the YOBs? Blast them off their feet then strip their clothes off with high presure water and roll them down the street!
12 posted on 02/13/2008 9:51:23 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: marthemaria

A city cannot survive this level of stupidity long. Fires are apolitical. They just grow and grow if not stopped in time.

The only possible solution will not be implemented: Armed escorts with shoot to kill orders for anyone attacking firefighters. That’s what it will take. Like I said, won’t happen though — until a BIG fire gets REALLY out of control and dozens, hundreds, or more die. Then we will see yet another massive backlash against the yobs.

Seems like an awful lot of those are building up these days, doesn’t it?


13 posted on 02/13/2008 9:52:25 AM PST by piytar
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To: Bertha Fanation
Diversity, thy name is failure.

Ah, yes, but let cosmic justice be done tho the heavens may crumble! (/sarcasm)

14 posted on 02/13/2008 10:01:46 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: marthemaria

This has been happening in American big cities for decades even without Muslim participation.

Its an urban entertainment.


15 posted on 02/13/2008 10:08:05 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Snake65; Allegra
And I only wish I was exaggerating...it is really disturbing, especially since these pond-scum morons hardly ever get caught, let alone punished...it’s just sick,! As a Yank over here this is what I get teased with: Have a Nice Day! :-) They think we all say that; ummm I'm here to tell you that we don't...I'd love to put my designer boot in the ass of one of these little twats! Seriously, I'm more scared walking (and don't do it) after dark here in little tiny Chester England than I ever was in New Orleans At least in New Orleans, Houston and New York little kids aspired to be firefighters; they put out a calendar every year and DAMN those guys were hot (no pun intended)!
16 posted on 02/13/2008 10:17:00 AM PST by wazoo1031
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To: Red_Devil 232

The engines we have would require some advance planning. You’d have to have two hose lays connected. One on each side. The truck has to be stopped and the pto engaged to drive the pump. On ours that means fifth gear and the pto activated. It would be difficult to do if you were swarmed as soon as you came on scene. Unless you’re really hefty, that means two each on a hose plus one to man the engine. It’s not impossible but I wouldn’t want to do it with incoming bricks.


17 posted on 02/13/2008 10:41:38 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
It’s Yobs without jobs, and no one to rob, so they lob cobs cuz they’re a mob,,,,,

Please, the correct term is now "NEET."

"Yob" is so demeaning to lazy young punks.

18 posted on 02/13/2008 10:45:00 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Trailerpark Badass

What does NEET mean? I thought it was smelly lotion to remove my leg hair! Please inform this lost Yank in Britain...


19 posted on 02/13/2008 10:56:59 AM PST by wazoo1031
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To: wazoo1031

What does NEET mean? I thought it was smelly lotion to remove my leg hair! Please inform this lost Yank in Britain...

NEET: not involved in education, employment or training.

I just hope Ireland hasn’t fallen to the PC crowd yet. Not neat that.


20 posted on 02/13/2008 11:22:15 AM PST by bajabaja
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To: bajabaja

I hate to break it to you, but yes, Ireland (land of my Ancestors) is a gonner...One of my best buds over here (and I’m on the Welsh border) laments every time he goes home to Dublin, as he says its gets “worse and worse every week”, and he lives 60 miles outside Dublin! It breaks my heart to think that the beautiful Irish, English, (hell, even our American Southern) accents are going to be replaced in the near future by guttural primitive noises...my sister and I were lucky enough to be in Dublin 3 years ago, and there were “gingers” everywhere (I’m one), however the sighting of a redhead in freakin’ Ireland is getting rarer and rarer! “Ginger” watching is becoming like bird-watching...I must say that I felt “POWER” in Ireland as I had never seen so many folks like me; I freakin’ loved it! My sister “Allegra” was laughing her ass off! She, of course, has the gorgeous combination of really almost black hair and green eyes; she’s my big sis and I Love Her!


21 posted on 02/13/2008 11:48:45 AM PST by wazoo1031
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To: wazoo1031; Allegra

Meant to post this to you! I Love You!


22 posted on 02/13/2008 11:50:06 AM PST by wazoo1031
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To: wazoo1031

Dang, you mean Dublin is following London?

As an Irish citizen (US by birth, Irish by law) I had hoped to establish a vacation home there.

Looks like Mexico is a better choice: the beer is cold and the pork plentiful.

There should be a reprint of “Why England Slept” — Europe seems to be in a somnolent daze with brief sputterings of coherent thought. Archbishops OK with sharia and calls to pray over Oxford?

Go Geert Wilders.


23 posted on 02/13/2008 12:07:11 PM PST by bajabaja
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To: wazoo1031
I'm more scared walking (and don't do it) after dark here in little tiny Chester England...

Just do hand-farts at them, belch at them or do the rooster noise at them. That ought to make them somewhat hesitant to approach.

24 posted on 02/13/2008 12:11:42 PM PST by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: Allegra; bajabaja

YeeeYaaaYUSSSS!!! I love you Sis! I’ll never forget that yuppie bastard’s look when you did that, as I damn near collapsed! The cheap chick/slut he was with was wearing “nude” hose and white heels, what a freakin’ loser! I can’t wait to get back home!


25 posted on 02/13/2008 12:24:36 PM PST by wazoo1031
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To: wazoo1031
"What does NEET mean? I thought it was smelly lotion to remove my leg hair! Please inform this lost Yank in Britain..."

NEET: not involved in education, employment or training.

Yep, that's it. Much more neutral and clinical sounding than "ignorant loser."

26 posted on 02/14/2008 6:45:39 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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