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Tempers Flare At Trans-Texas Corridor Hearing
Click2Houston.com ^ | February 13, 2008 | Ryan Korsgard

Posted on 02/13/2008 1:37:11 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

HOUSTON -- It did not take long Tuesday for the Texas Department of Transportation to find out what the Houstonians at a public hearing thought about the proposed 600-mile Trans-Texas Corridor, KPRC Local 2 reported.

"George Washington, Sam Houston would vomit on you people," one attendee said.

Chris Zora, who opposes the plan, attended the hearing at the Arabia Shrine Center in Southwest Houston.

"I'd like to see a show of hands here of anybody that approves of this corridor," Zora said. "Is there anyone in this room who approves of this corridor? Raise your hands if you approve of it."

KPRC Local 2 did not see anyone raise his or her hand in response.

The hearing was an opportunity for citizens to tell the state what they think of the proposal that would include car, truck and train traffic. TxDOT took notes but officials did not answer questions.

"It's more than people giving up their land," said Kathryn Wilson, who owns a farm in Waller County. "We're talking about Texas' second-largest industry, agriculture, being destroyed."

The study area is wide and undefined. The road, also known as Interstate 69, would run through Texas from the border with Mexico all the way up to the Arkansas/Louisiana border. It would weave into current roads in the Houston area.

TxDOT spokeswoman Karen Othon said, "Nothing's going to happen right now. Construction is not going to start. No right of way is going to be bought. Nothing is going to happen at this point. We're right now just hearing the public's comments on this project."

The next public hearing is scheduled to take place in Lake Jackson on Wednesday. It will be held at the Lake Jackson Civic Center beginning at 5 p.m. with a formal presentation set for 6:30 p.m. Comments from the public will be heard at the end.

For a look at the project, go to keeptexasmoving.com.

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Public says highway isn't my way: All who spoke at Lufkin's TxDOT town hall meeting voice opposition to proposed I-69/Trans-Texas Corridor

TTC/I-69 Public Hearing

State corridor hearing echoes small-town concerns

Trans-Texas Corridor Meeting Draws A Couple of Hundred East Texans

Hearing passed without local objection

1 posted on 02/13/2008 1:37:26 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: TxDOT; 1066AD; 185JHP; Abcdefg; Adrastus; Alamo-Girl; antivenom; AprilfromTexas; B4Ranch; B-Chan; ..

Trans-Texas Corridor PING!


2 posted on 02/13/2008 1:38:16 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cloverfield 2008! Why vote for a lesser monster?)
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To: AuntB

ping


3 posted on 02/13/2008 1:39:49 PM PST by mnehrling (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"Nothing's going to happen right now. Construction is not going to start.

Well, officially I69 construction (replacing US 59) has started, albeit, it doesn't appear to be the massive scope of the TTC (just normal Interstate size.) This is long needed on US 59, however, I can see how this could easily be shifted to larger scope TTC construction considering how much land has been cleared on either side in some places.

4 posted on 02/13/2008 1:43:50 PM PST by mnehrling (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I for one welcome our new globalist overlords.

5 posted on 02/13/2008 1:43:52 PM PST by Greg F (I feel a thrill going up my leg when Laura Ingraham speaks. Am I as weird as Chris Matthews?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Other than people who are going to make big bucks off this thing, has there been a single meeting where the public approved?


6 posted on 02/13/2008 1:45:03 PM PST by wolfcreek (Powers that be will lie like Clintons and spend like drunken McCains to push their Globalist agenda.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“George Washington, Sam Houston would vomit on you people”


Great quote....and yes I believe they would hurl on these anti-American bigots who do not value America or Americans


7 posted on 02/13/2008 1:46:05 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (UCFRW On McCain: "You can remove the stink-shooter from a skunk's butt....but it's still a skunk")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Interesting. We keep being told by the open borders Freepers here that there is no such highway being built, yet there are hearings being held on it.


8 posted on 02/13/2008 1:46:11 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

HOUSTON PING


9 posted on 02/13/2008 1:46:17 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

HOUSTON PING


10 posted on 02/13/2008 1:46:49 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

One Worlders Unite....Support the Corridor for our Mexican friends! /sarc


11 posted on 02/13/2008 1:47:13 PM PST by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

ping der ring and all that jazz.


12 posted on 02/13/2008 1:47:24 PM PST by glide625
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To: Greg F

Good one, Greg!

Perry and Bush are going to have the same legacy.........they pissed off a whole bunch of people.


13 posted on 02/13/2008 1:48:05 PM PST by wolfcreek (Powers that be will lie like Clintons and spend like drunken McCains to push their Globalist agenda.)
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To: puroresu

They didn’t want to discuss it in the governor’s race last year either.


14 posted on 02/13/2008 1:51:28 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: weegee

15 posted on 02/13/2008 1:52:04 PM PST by girlscout
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To: wolfcreek
Other than people who are going to make big bucks off this thing, has there been a single meeting where the public approved?

Yes, I've heard about some meetings in smaller towns like Linden & Atlanta where the prospect is favored because they think it will be an economic stimulus. Our local paper ran a poll a couple of weeks ago and support was a little over 50%.

(older article on how some in our region here viewed it):
http://www.news-journal.com/search/content/region/ETtoday/ttc/stories/ttc012906.html

16 posted on 02/13/2008 1:52:10 PM PST by mnehrling (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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TX governor Perry rapped for paving way for construction of Trans-Texas Corridor
One News Now | August 24, 2007 | Chad Groening
FR Posted on 08/25/2007 by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Texas Governor Rick Perry is being called to task by an author and investigative journalist for vetoing bills that would have blocked construction of the controversial Trans-Texas Corridor. Dr. Jerome Corsi has been one of the leading voices warning the American public about the consequences of the Trans-Texas Corridor, which will be part of a superhighway -- purported to be four football fields wide -- that will allow Mexican trucks to enter the U.S. and traverse the core of the country all the way to Canada.

The best-selling author asserts that Governor Perry cleared the way for construction to begin in his state when he vetoed several bills passed by the Legislature that would have stalled the project. "Governor Perry has been 100 percent gung-ho in building this road," says Corsi. "The Legislature voted a two-year moratorium, it voted a redefinition of eminent domain -- [and] Governor Perry vetoed them. [On] at least one of those measures, he waited until the Texas Legislature was out of session so it couldn't even override his veto."

Corsi says it is unfortunate that there has been political pressure to get the project started. "The Federal Highway Administration's lawyer wrote letters threatening the Texas Legislature to cut off federal highway funds if they got in the way of this Trans-Texas Corridor," he says.

Corsi believes the same pressure will be applied on other states, like Oklahoma, to go along with the project. He suggests that would mean a loss of more American jobs and could pose a threat to U.S. sovereignty.

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In Mexico for trade talks, Perry blasts immigration policies
Houston Chronicle, Mexico City Bureau | Aug. 28, 2007 | DUDLEY ALTHAUS
Posted on 08/28/2007 5:35:20 PM PDT by Dubya

MEXICO CITY — Leading a large delegation of Texas executives trying to drum up business in Mexico, Gov. Rick Perry on Tuesday criticized the U.S. Congress for failing to pass an immigration bill that would legalize millions of workers. "I don't think this is that difficult an issue if Congress would have the maturity to sit down and really discuss it and cut out all the mean rhetoric," Perry said during a break in the third day of meetings with Mexican officials and business executives. (Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...

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COMMENT Gov Rick Perry does a Dixie Chick---he criticizes the US while in a foreign country. Is Perry collaborating with a foreign government to influence the policies of the US government on the issue of amnesty for illegals? Gov Perry endorsed Giuliani's candidacy-----does candidate Giuliani agree with collaborating with foreign governments to change US policies? We need rational leaders who understand the dimensions of the problem. Perry and Giuliani are not among this group.

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DO GIULIANI AND PERRY HAVE SIMILAR PLANS FOR OTHER HIGHWAYS?

Here's Giuliani and Perry's idea of "border security."
Giuliani and Gov Rick Perry) used eminent domain to take US properties from taxpayers and gave them to foreign entities.

NASCO TEXAS-CANADA-MEXICO TRADE CORRIDOR BROKERED BY Bracewell & Giuliani

DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY MAP----TERRORIST ENTRY POINTS

NEWS STORY Bracewell & Giuliani Firm Advises Cintra in First Privatization of Toll Road in Texas
DALLAS (March 1, 2007) Bracewell & Giuliani LLP (Rudy's Texas-based law firm with global connections) advised Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte, S.A., a Spanish transportation company, in its successful bid to develop State Highway 121 into a toll road through Collin and Denton counties ("trade road" is four football fields wide). The award to Cintra, approved by the Texas Transportation Commission, is the first privatization of a Texas toll road. Bracewell is acting as project counsel to Cintra with respect to the 50-year concession from the Texas Department of Transportation. Cintra will pay a $2.1 billion upfront and annual lease payments totaling $700 million. "Cintra was awarded this project because of its proven expertise and competitive proposal," said Thomas O. Moore, partner with Bracewell & Giuliani. "This is the largest transportation deal of 2007. This is one of only five deals in the country."

MEXICO-TEXAS CORRIDOR UNDER CONSTRUCTION


17 posted on 02/13/2008 1:54:08 PM PST by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BTTT


18 posted on 02/13/2008 1:54:20 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We need to keep pressure on the state reps and senators. some - Dan Patrick, for example - gets the point. such folk were able to put a 2 year “time out” on spending, but this mess ain’t stopped yet.

Rick Perry is the vomit spewed forth.


19 posted on 02/13/2008 1:54:27 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: wolfcreek
Perry and Bush are going to have the same legacy.........they pissed off a whole bunch of people.

They don't care the Saudis pay well.

20 posted on 02/13/2008 1:54:36 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

“anti-American bigots”

The McCainiacs would say that you have it backwards: the real bigots are anyone objecting to the USA, and the Republic of Texas, being sold like sides of beef.


21 posted on 02/13/2008 1:55:03 PM PST by tumblindice (You know when you've won an argument with a McCain supporter: your parentage is called into question)
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To: Liz

23 posted on 02/13/2008 1:58:01 PM PST by mnehrling (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: puroresu
Interesting. We keep being told by the open borders Freepers here that there is no such highway being built, yet there are hearings being held on it.

Precisely the opposite. We keep being told by the NIMBY-types that they keep hearing that there is no such highway being built, then they post the map from NASCO's own website. It's rather humorous.

24 posted on 02/13/2008 2:01:11 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: mnehrling

It has started in south Texas too.


25 posted on 02/13/2008 2:01:59 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

But, but, President Bush has told me that this whole thing is nothing more than a conspiracy theory pushed by wackos. He wouldn’t lie to me would he?


26 posted on 02/13/2008 2:02:04 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Yeah, the article was worth it if only for that one quote.


27 posted on 02/13/2008 2:03:40 PM PST by Hexenhammer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If we had a secure border, Mexico truck regulation and citizen involvement people might feel differently. Our governor has already decided and started without us though.


28 posted on 02/13/2008 2:05:28 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: wolfcreek
"I'd like to see a show of hands here of anybody that approves of this corridor," Zora said. "Is there anyone in this room who approves of this corridor? Raise your hands if you approve of it."

People with a vague desire for improved roads seldom take the time to attend public meetings. Generally only those strongly in favor of or opposed to a particular project do so. And most of them have personal financial interests involved.

29 posted on 02/13/2008 2:06:35 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Another article about the Houston meeting on Feb 12th:

Houston Chronicle: State corridor hearing echoes small-town concerns

Tuesday's audience at a public hearing on the project numbered only 233, compared with more than 1,000 in tiny Bellville, but they were just as opposed to the idea.

When the hearing adjourned shortly after 9 p.m., not one of the 49 speakers was in favor of the plan.


30 posted on 02/13/2008 2:07:09 PM PST by esarlls3
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

31 posted on 02/13/2008 2:09:19 PM PST by backformystuff (McCain '08...do you really trust the Democrats to fight radical Islam?)
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To: CindyDawg
This is part of the I69/US59 improvement around Texarkana (technically 259):

It used to be a small, two lane road just a few years ago similar to this:

32 posted on 02/13/2008 2:09:34 PM PST by mnehrling (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Is this the road that is NOT the NAFTA Superhighway?

Just trying to stay on the same page with the Official Terminology.


33 posted on 02/13/2008 2:10:36 PM PST by samtheman (McCain: Not as good as a real Republican, not as bad as a real Democrat.)
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To: 1rudeboy
We keep being told by the NIMBY-types that they keep hearing that there is no such highway being built, then they post the map from NASCO's own website. It's rather humorous.

They're being sarcastic when they say that they keep hearing that there is no such highway. They're fully aware that there is one.

34 posted on 02/13/2008 2:11:14 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: mnehrling

I’ve seen the same sign many places along 59 from the Rio Grande Valley to Arkansas. I travel it a couple of times a year to visit grandkids in the valley.


35 posted on 02/13/2008 2:11:17 PM PST by rustyncrusty (Where liberty dwells, there is my country. - Ben Franklin)
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To: CindyDawg

Correction, previous are from the Arkansas side, but the change and roadway that was US59 looks very similar on the Texas side.


36 posted on 02/13/2008 2:11:18 PM PST by mnehrling (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: rustyncrusty

I drive 59 (to I30) about once a month to go to Little Rock and I am amazed how quickly they are expanding 59, especially North of Atlanta (a lot slower progress between Atlanta and Marshall, it seems to have stalled around Linden TX155 area.)


37 posted on 02/13/2008 2:13:07 PM PST by mnehrling (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: puroresu

I just don’t see the sarcasm. And so many people are serious when they say it that any sarcasm is lost.


38 posted on 02/13/2008 2:13:53 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You know, I never used to believe in the Trans Texas corridor conspiracy until I started reading the Illuminati news and found out this is just one part of the International Banker conspiracy to control the world.

And you know who is behind that, of course.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/index.htm


39 posted on 02/13/2008 2:15:22 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: mnehrling

IIRC 59 in Houston has been or is being widened to 10 lanes. South of Houston is divided four lane all the way. It already looks like interstate with the exception of a few smaller towns.


40 posted on 02/13/2008 2:16:36 PM PST by rustyncrusty (Where liberty dwells, there is my country. - Ben Franklin)
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To: puroresu
Some of these alleged "Freepers" cozy up a bit too close to their Dhimmocrat brethren.

Anyone who does not want to protect our borders, language, culture, sovereignty, Constitution, and economy is no Freeper worth the name.

41 posted on 02/13/2008 2:23:09 PM PST by PeterFinn (A muslim in the White House would be an Obamination.)
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To: mnehrling

Anybody ask Perry what his cut of the interstate deal is?

Betcha he stands to make a bundle.

Check the jewelry stores to see how man solid gold Rolexes Perry ordered-—after all, he wants to look good when he’s lolling on his beachfront property in Rio......after visiting his offshore accounts.


42 posted on 02/13/2008 2:26:42 PM PST by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Liz
LOL, when I met Perry, he was wearing a stainless Rolex (black Submariner), not Gold. :->
43 posted on 02/13/2008 2:28:51 PM PST by mnehrling (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: Liz
I may have been wrong about remembering his Rolex being the black Submariner, in this picture, it is the black and red stainless.

http://www.governor.state.tx.us/divisions/press/photos/perry_astro2.jpg

(..and you thought I was kidding..actually, I noticed because I have a green 50th anniversary model that is very similar.)

44 posted on 02/13/2008 2:32:15 PM PST by mnehrling (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: Liz
Anybody ask Perry what his cut of the interstate deal is?

Whatever it is I imagine it might resemble a nice hacienda in Cabo staffed by young, single girls. !

45 posted on 02/13/2008 2:32:40 PM PST by PeterFinn (A muslim in the White House would be an Obamination.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"KPRC Local 2 did not see anyone raise his or her hand in response."

Didn't think there would be any. Trans-Tex doesn't expect anyone to approve. They have to go through the motions of having public hearings and taking input. Doesn't matter what the input is. It isn't required that anyone should be in favor of it. Trucks and trains will run mainly through the plains regardless. It's a done deal. Be advised Trans-Tex is not asking permission for this. They are merely serving notice on what's coming down the pike - - literally.

We got the same treatment with Border XXI.

46 posted on 02/13/2008 2:32:43 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound; GreenLanternCorps

I have a feeling this thing will not happen. There are people being quoted who are apparently perfectly willing to spill blood over the taking of their land. And surely the government has to realize this by now.


47 posted on 02/13/2008 2:42:17 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cloverfield 2008! Why vote for a lesser monster?)
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To: puroresu
Interesting. We keep being told by the open borders Freepers here that there is no such highway being built, yet there are hearings being held on it.

A conspiracy's best defense is to make it all sound utterly impossible--and to make sure mild-mannered Michael Medved is on your side.
48 posted on 02/13/2008 2:43:28 PM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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To: farmer18th

Dont mention Michael Medved! He is a complete tool! Whatever respect for him I once had vanished when he became a shill for Captain Queeg (McCain).


49 posted on 02/13/2008 2:49:04 PM PST by Astronaut
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How many “Lemmings” were at the meeting? Don’t they know that once public hearings begin.....IT’S A DONE DEAL....THE FIX IS IN.....THE BIDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN RIGGED!

Public hearings don’t accomplish “squat” and are meant only to feed the “Lemmings” feel good stew.

Elected officials in favor of this boondoggle should have been thrown out of office when firs mention of this scheme to fatten the wallets of the fat cats and political hacks came to light. Now it’s too late...the Camel’s nose, head and shoulders are already under the tent and he has no intention of leaving.


50 posted on 02/13/2008 2:50:12 PM PST by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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