Posted on 02/14/2008 7:43:09 AM PST by K-oneTexas
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With McCain in there, it will sail through as fast as the Republicans in the House and Senate have proven they will not stand on principle to oppose a president from their own party.
We lost the battle because we were fighting with the wrong weapon. It reminds me of the Book of First Samuel. The Philistines convinced Israel to give up their weapons and the Philistines gave them farming tools instead. When the went to war Israel had few weapons and King Saul and Johnathan were killed.
We’re trying to fight with a weapon given us by the enemy. The weapon: The Republican party, the enemy: The political elitists.
Well then by all means vote for Obama! With McCain, the glass is half full, with Obama its empty.
“Conservatives: Sitting Out 2008 Is the Height of Idiocy”
Getting just about sick and tired of being bullied and called names by Republicans in order to eat their sh*t sandwich.
Obama. In a 40 state landslide.
With McCain the glass is about 90% empty.
You are assuming that there will be an America by the next election cycle. You are having faith that the Democrats will not totally convert this nation into their socialist utopia by then. You are banking on the people getting sick of the Democrats' destruction of this country's honor, integrity, and productivity. You are flirting with the devil here if your gamble does not pan out, my friend...
If we can stop him from passing the midnight shamnesty bill with the democrats I will hold my nose and vote for him.
Can we stop him from doing this? Lest he forget, his campaign was all but dead in the water after his proposed bill and I hope he remembers it well.
I am going to take some convincing on this to the point that I demand a public pledge from him that he will not grant any form of amnesty to illegals at the convention before he gets my vote. I hope millions of others demand the same thing of him because I think that is the only way we can save him (and what is left of the GOP) from himself.
Our house of entitlements is on fire and we can ill afford pouring the gasoline of illegal immigration on an already doomed structure.
I honestly believe this is the issue he can win on because independents and blue collar democrats seem to share my concern.
“Campaign finance reform was not about cleaning up corruption. It was about ensuring that the spoils of corruption only went to club members.”
Amen! Shapiro, whoever that is, is willfully ignorant of that fact. Or he’s stupid. Or he’s lying.
Somewhere along the line the strategists have convinced enough people that a true conservative can't win. This is a mess we have created ourselves by believing the wrong people and voting strategy rather than conscience. Sure by the time we actually have a nominee you have to look at who the race is between. But what everyone does is give up on a true conservative before the race even starts. How many people endorsed Guiliani because he could beat Hillary? Not only was Guiliani never a contender, but Hillary may not be the Democrat nominee. The strategists know nothing but what THEY personally want. We should fight for a conservative from the very start all the way up until someone has 1,191 votes. If we face a brokered convention then fine. Whoever wins it is the nominee. Fight until you cannot fight and THEN weigh the situation between the Republican and Democrat nominee.
That is one of the things I disagree with him about but I would rather have him in office where we as a group have a chance of changing his mind instead of someone who we have no chance of swaying. McCain does love America and has far more character than Obama. Even Clinton loves her country more than Obama. Obama hates America.
All poiticians do that crap. Its part of politics.
“Obama hates America.”
Well he IS a socialist, but other than that, on what evidence to you base this opinion?
That is the same as saying we have to have someone hold our hands and tell us who to vote for. Americans chose who they wanted.
But allowing Hillary or Obama or McCain in would be a betrayal of all the brave fighting men and women in our armed services and all the deaths, sufferings and grief they and their families have undergone in Iraq.
I see nothing in McCain's past that indicates he would oppose any of the same agenda. His history of pushing the Democrat's agenda in order to say he accomplished something leaves me thinking it is a wash on who would be worse.
The Democrats are spineless and lack all moral direction. They are easily defeated by the strong and courageous. But they will be in charge. Scares me even more.
You commented to ARE SOLE,
Too bad you’ll also be screwing our military and America’s security.
I then added: ...and you and me in the process, but what the hell they (unreferenced pronoun meant to include that group you were addressing) have principles (principles as explained in your comment to me by this "over the "principles" of irrational politicos any day", or for that matter, the mythical and false principles of certain conservatives willing to cut off their nose to spite our military specifically and the country in general. Meaning you and I will be added to the screw list you began in the previous comment to post number 24.
Hopefully that, (unreferenced pronoun) will help.
If not, what it all means (nothing personal) I'm on your side.
Then again maybe I have completely misunderstood.
A voice of sanity and reason. Not very welcome in FR these days. People are having too much fun wallowing in self pity. Of course you are right and you said it very eloquently. Thanks.
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