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Chairman Mao proposed sending 10 million Chinese women to US: documents
AFP ^ | Feb 12, 2008

Posted on 02/14/2008 9:45:25 AM PST by Ivan the Terrible

WASHINGTON (AFP) — Chinese leader Mao Zedong proposed sending 10 million Chinese women to the United States, in talks with top envoy Henry Kissinger in 1973, according to documents released Tuesday.

The powerful chairman of the Chinese Communist Party said he believed such emigration could kickstart bilateral trade but could also "harm" the United States with a population explosion similar to China, according to documents released Tuesday by the State Department on US-China ties between 1973 to 1976.

In a long conversation that stretched way past midnight at Mao's residence on February 17, 1973, the cigar-chomping Chinese leader referred to the dismal trade between the two countries, saying China was a "very poor country" and "what we have in excess is women."

He first suggested sending "thousands" of women but as an afterthought proposed "10 million," drawing laughter at the meeting, also attended by Chinese premier Zhou Enlai.

Kissinger, who was President Richard Nixon's national security advisor at that time, told Mao that the United States had no "quotas" or "tariffs" for Chinese women, drawing more laughter.

Kissinger then tried to highlight to Mao the threat posed by the Soviet Union and other global concerns as he moved to lay the groundwork for restoring diplomatic ties a year after Nixon's historic visit to China.

But Mao dragged the talks back to the topic of Chinese women.

"Let them go to your place. They will create disasters. That way you can lessen our burdens," Mao said.

"Do you want our Chinese women? We can give you ten million," he said.

Kissinger noted that Mao was "improving his offer."

Mao continued, "By doing so we can let them flood your country with disaster and therefore impair your interests. In our country we have too many women, and they have a way of doing things.

"They give birth to children and our children are too many."

A shrewd diplomat, Kissinger seemed to turn the tables on Mao, replying, "It is such a novel proposition, we will have to study it."

The two leaders then spoke briefly about the threat posed by the Soviet Union, with Mao saying he hoped Moscow would attack China and be defeated.

But Mao again lamented, "We have so many women in our country that don't know how to fight.

The assistant Chinese foreign minister, Wang Haijung, who was at the meeting, then cautioned Mao that if the minutes of the conversation were made public, "it would incur the public wrath."

Kissinger agreed with Mao that the minutes be scrapped.

But when Kissinger joked that he would raise the issue at his next press conference, Mao said, "I'm not afraid of anything.

"Anyway, God has sent me an invitation," said the Chinese leader, who coughed badly during the talks.

Mao died in September 1976. US-China diplomatic relations were restored in 1979.


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1 posted on 02/14/2008 9:45:26 AM PST by Ivan the Terrible
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To: Ivan the Terrible

Turn out we got them for free.


2 posted on 02/14/2008 9:46:30 AM PST by americanophile
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To: Ivan the Terrible
Can Sweden get the same idea?
3 posted on 02/14/2008 9:46:57 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Ivan the Terrible

Do you have a link to a Spanish translation of these documents?


4 posted on 02/14/2008 9:47:26 AM PST by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Ivan the Terrible

Perhaps they could have married the men that Americans wouldn’t marry.


5 posted on 02/14/2008 9:47:30 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Ivan the Terrible

Mao knew his stuff. Now we have some 10m illegals dropping babies on us.


6 posted on 02/14/2008 9:47:40 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Ivan the Terrible
Well, if they look like this, it'll prob'ly be OK!


7 posted on 02/14/2008 9:48:33 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Ivan the Terrible

I don’t think Mao was kidding. He would have rounded them up, put them on ships and grounded them on the west coast.


8 posted on 02/14/2008 9:48:53 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote (Pork, just bring the hot sauce!)
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To: Ivan the Terrible

I know that the Chinese Emporers used to demand women from Korea as tribute . . . and get them. They held sort of national beauty contests, the girls were inspected and then shipped off to China with the emporer able to dole them out.


9 posted on 02/14/2008 9:50:32 AM PST by Greg F (I feel a thrill going up my leg when Laura Ingraham speaks. Am I as weird as Chris Matthews?)
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To: Ivan the Terrible

Is this offer still good?


10 posted on 02/14/2008 9:51:46 AM PST by Conservatives_Unite
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To: 2banana
"Can Sweden get the same idea?"

I don't understand your question? ;-)


11 posted on 02/14/2008 9:52:58 AM PST by avacado
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To: 2banana

Sweden? Venezuela is better.


12 posted on 02/14/2008 9:56:26 AM PST by bajabaja
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To: Ivan the Terrible

Countries are messing with us, and we don’t even care. We’re so stupid that we welcome it. Millions of Mexicans - suuure, let em in. Millions of Muslims - suuure, let em in. No matter that the entire system is crumbling.


13 posted on 02/14/2008 9:56:44 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Don't let Bubba back in the White House to defile it again.)
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To: Ivan the Terrible

14 posted on 02/14/2008 9:57:22 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: americanophile

And that is a bad thing?

I love immigrants that are largely conservative, work hard, and learn English.


15 posted on 02/14/2008 9:57:22 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Don't blame me; I will write in Thompson.)
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To: avacado

Those are krauts; or at least one is drinkng a Beck’s.


16 posted on 02/14/2008 9:58:10 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Don't blame me; I will write in Thompson.)
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To: 2banana
Can Sweden get the same idea?

Or the Czech Republic?

17 posted on 02/14/2008 10:01:16 AM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: Regulator

LOL, I was trying to find the picture posted here, where they wanted you to pick out the ladies from the men.


18 posted on 02/14/2008 10:03:26 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Regulator

BUMP....er, I mean boink.


19 posted on 02/14/2008 10:03:34 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan
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To: Ivan the Terrible
"Anyway, God has sent me an invitation"

That genocidal sumb!tch Mao tse Tung isn't anywhere within a million light years of Almighty God, he's in Hell burning eternally as a Crispy Communist Critter, and rightly so.

Only if Mao got down on his knees before he died and confessed that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, admitted that he was a worthless sinner doomed forever, and asked Christ to save him, is there any possibility that he is in the Kingdom of Heaven.
20 posted on 02/14/2008 10:06:40 AM PST by mkjessup (Any SOB who calls John F'in Kerry "his dear friend" will NEVER get my vote, no way, no how.)
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To: org.whodat
where they wanted you to pick out the ladies from the men

Sometimes that's a problem...

21 posted on 02/14/2008 10:11:37 AM PST by Regulator (Er, did I say that? Just kiddin...)
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To: Ivan the Terrible

I’ll take three, if that would help.


22 posted on 02/14/2008 10:17:07 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Regulator

She’s only half-Chinese, so you’d need two for it to count.

Now there’s an idea.


23 posted on 02/14/2008 10:18:13 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: WakeUpAndVote

But seriously folks.....the unfortunate (if your Chinese) reality, or hypocrisy, as it were, of US immigration policy, is that its ok to WALK into the US but, if you sail over on a ship....Oh NOOOOO we can’t have people sailing over here on ships.... that’s UNACCEPTABLE.

The 10 million Chinese Women would have at least given us a higher IQ injection into the gene pool vs. the current 20 million “visitors” we have. Where i live the Valedictorian at the High School is ALWAYS Chinese or Indian. The former mexican “students” do start alot of landscaping businesses and taqueria joints, however. kind of impressive, in a forlorn sort of way.


24 posted on 02/14/2008 10:18:47 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan
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To: mkjessup
One thing that gets in the way - pride. Pride was the reason why man was thrown out of the Garden of Eden. People don't go to hell because God decides, you cast the tie breaking vote. God votes for you to get into Heaven, satan/devil voted against you getting in and you yourself cast the tie-breaker. Accepting Christ is a vote in favor, rejecting Him is a vote against.

Only if Mao got down on his knees before he died and confessed that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, admitted that he was a worthless sinner doomed forever, and asked Christ to save him, is there any possibility that he is in the Kingdom of Heaven.
25 posted on 02/14/2008 10:20:04 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: Ivan the Terrible

I remember Kissenger bugging Mao about political prisoners and how they should be free to emigrate.

Mao said “Sure. How many millions do you want?”

That shut Kissenger up in a hurry.


26 posted on 02/14/2008 10:24:07 AM PST by Philistone (If someone tells you it's for the children, he believes that YOU are a child.)
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To: Ivan the Terrible
Kind of happening now. A lot of Chinese girls are being adopted by Americans. My son goes to Kumon twice a week and one lady who my wife knows from the school she works at has two adopted Chinese daughters. They are cute and they are very smart. My self being married to a Japanese nisei and having a son, we talked about adopting but I would like to adopt a Japanese child preferably a boy. It was mentioned that is is almost impossible to do that.
27 posted on 02/14/2008 10:24:23 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: org.whodat
I was trying to find the picture posted here, where they wanted you to pick out the ladies from the men.

It's not difficult to tell women from trannies, most of the time. The biceps and adam's apple are dead giveaways. But when I went to Bangkok, it was much more difficult. Thais, male and female, tend to be relatively small folks with relatively delicate features, and the ladyboys are really, really convincing.

For the record, I didn't visit those places. I just observed from a sidewalk or a passing cab. My friend, who has lived in Thailand for years, was better at spotting the ladyboys than I.

28 posted on 02/14/2008 10:28:52 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: NativeNewYorker

I’ll take ‘em!


29 posted on 02/14/2008 10:29:39 AM PST by Raymann
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To: Regulator
Then there's that young lady who reports the odds on her favorite football team for the coming weekend.

No doubt 10,000,000 gals like that could be really popular.

30 posted on 02/14/2008 10:29:50 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Beck’s is a Swiss beer...


31 posted on 02/14/2008 10:30:38 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Ivan the Terrible

You’re all sexists and racists! (Where’s my Chinese honey?)


32 posted on 02/14/2008 10:33:25 AM PST by Carl LaFong (Building Code Under Fire)
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To: CORedneck
You'd better believe it. The Japanese have a tragically low birthrate and are not even reproducing themselves, and the government over there knows it. In China, by contrast, there are unwanted baby girls everywhere.

Have you considered hosting a Japanese exchange student? We did, and it was one of the most wonderful experiences of our lives. She was very loving, and soon we both became very attached to "Our Yuki" . We still keep in regular contact with her today. In fact, I just sent her Valentine's Day card!

We would love to adopt a Japanese child (seeing as we both have some small ability with the language), but it's damned near impossible to do. しがたがないね。

33 posted on 02/14/2008 10:37:03 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: CORedneck

I imagine it would be exceedingly easy to adopt a Chinese girl, since they are unwanted in their own country.


34 posted on 02/14/2008 10:41:02 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

I for one welcome our new Chinese female overlords, provided of course they’re “not guilty”


35 posted on 02/14/2008 10:42:02 AM PST by Scythian
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To: 2banana

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/56/Playboy_January_1992.jpg


36 posted on 02/14/2008 10:45:27 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: NeverForgetBataan
I doubt the forcibly deported would be of the high caliber that the self-selected immigrants here now are.
37 posted on 02/14/2008 11:08:35 AM PST by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Regulator

That is until she wears her Buck Fush t-shirt.


38 posted on 02/14/2008 11:19:46 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: B-Chan

“Beck’s is a Swiss beer...”

Beck’s is a brand of the brewery Brauerei Beck & Co KG in the north German city of Bremen.

Beck’s has for many years also been brewed under license in Namibia, which prior to World War I was a German colony. It is also today brewed in Bulgaria, Australia, Ukraine, Serbia, Montenegro, China, Nigeria, Romania, Turkey and the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina.


39 posted on 02/14/2008 11:27:47 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Don't blame me; I will write in Thompson.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Thanks for the correction.


40 posted on 02/14/2008 11:48:35 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan

I know very few things in this world.

Beer, artillery, the workings of work over rigs and shallow rigs, and how to field strip M-16 are the exception.


41 posted on 02/14/2008 11:52:07 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Don't blame me; I will write in Thompson.)
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To: Unassuaged

The Mexican “immigrants” here today are economic refugees, “forcibly deported” by the abject failure of the Mexican Government, to provide them with gainful labor.

How long has Mexico been a sovereign nation? 150, 200 years? And in that amount of time a country with some of the riches natural resources in the Western Hemisphere, can’t get its act together any better than this?

They are NOT “self-selected immigrants”. They are running from unemployment and poverty served upon them by their beloved country of Mexico. They march in street rallies here in the US demanding amnesty, waving the Mexican flag and proclaiming their love of Mexico, a nation that gave most of them NOTHING. Not even a decent education. They don’t really like the US, they resent us as “Gringos”, they blame the US for all their troubles and all they really care about is a paycheck that they would gladly take in Mexico if it was to be had there. They need to wake up and smell the salsa, and realize that Jose Calderon and the rest of the elites that run Mexico don’t give a dead rats ass about them except for the money they send back to Mexico. These illegals are people that elites in Mexico would spit at,(if they were still there), except for the few meager pesos that they would spend to keep the said elites businesses running.

A “self-selected” immigrant is one that goes to a new country knowing full well that he may never or probably will never see his homeland ever again. Like Cuban immigrants.

Sorry, Thats a long response, but that’s the truth my brother.


42 posted on 02/14/2008 12:09:21 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan
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To: NativeNewYorker

Oh were to begin!!!!


43 posted on 02/14/2008 12:12:01 PM PST by The Louiswu (Never Forget!)
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To: avacado

You heartless, cruel bastich. Posting ads for unobtainium like that. Bastich!!!


44 posted on 02/14/2008 12:18:19 PM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation trying to stop Monica's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife from becoming President)
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To: Ivan the Terrible

that’s where my wife is from. Beautiful, conservative and a great cook.
i highly recommend importing women from China ;)


45 posted on 02/14/2008 12:20:30 PM PST by DM1
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To: Philistone
I remember Kissenger bugging Mao about political prisoners and how they should be free to emigrate.

I recall that being Jimmy Carter and Zhou Enlai. But then, these stories get turned every which way and can rarely be verified.

46 posted on 02/14/2008 12:21:41 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

After much googling, I stand corrected.

You’re right.

I’m getting old...


47 posted on 02/14/2008 12:32:01 PM PST by Philistone (If someone tells you it's for the children, he believes that YOU are a child.)
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To: NeverForgetBataan
Oh, I was comparing the current Chinese immigrants and the theoretical 10 million. I cannot disagree with the rest of your post however.
48 posted on 02/14/2008 12:32:29 PM PST by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Philistone
After much googling...

I was too lazy for that. But that does sound more Carter's style, no?

49 posted on 02/14/2008 12:36:10 PM PST by decimon
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
I imagine it would be exceedingly easy to adopt a Chinese girl, since they are unwanted in their own country.

Don't you believe it. They would rather let them starve to death than be "embarrassed" by adopting out too many, or be accused of "selling" babies.

50 posted on 02/14/2008 12:37:49 PM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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