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Top "Gay" Organization Comes Clean: "HIV is a gay disease."
LifeSite ^ | February 14, 2008

Posted on 02/14/2008 1:56:50 PM PST by NYer

p>WASHINGTON, February 14, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In a public statement last Friday, Matt Foreman, outgoing Executive Director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, rattled the homosexual activist community by joining the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), pro-family organizations and a growing number of homosexual activists willing to admit that homosexual behavior is both extremely high-risk and primarily responsible for the spread of HIV/AIDS in the U.S.

Addressing the topic of AIDS, Foreman drastically deviated from the "gay" lobby's party line by admitting, "Internally, when these numbers come out, the 'established' gay community seems to have a collective shrug as if this isn't our problem.  Folks, with 70 percent of the people in this country living with HIV being gay or bi, we cannot deny that HIV is a gay disease. We have to own that and face up to that."

A little over a year ago, Lorri Jean, CEO of the Los Angeles-based Gay and Lesbian Center, similarly shocked the "gay" community by stating that, "HIV is a Gay Disease.  Own it.  End it."

Foreman's admission comes on the heels of a letter from Matt Barber, Concerned Women for America's (CWA) Policy Director for Cultural Issues, inviting Foreman and other homosexual activists to work together in discouraging homosexuals from engaging in the high-risk behaviors researchers recently determined are responsible for the epidemic spread of a potentially deadly strain of staph infection among certain segments of the "gay" community.  The CDC has acknowledged that many of those same high-risk behaviors, such as male-male anal sex, are chiefly responsible for spreading HIV/AIDS. 

Matt Barber addressed Foreman's admission: "It's extremely encouraging to see Matt Foreman, a homosexual activist who has for so long been in denial about the dangers of the lifestyle he has promoted, publicly coming to terms with the undeniable perils of that lifestyle. 

"I only hope he will now stop promoting homosexual conduct and push for other liberal elites, especially those running our public schools, to do the same.  Educators must truthfully address the 'gay' lifestyle's potentially deadly consequences. 

"It's criminally reckless for the National Education Association and liberal educators to put political correctness and a deceptive political agenda above the lives, health and well-being of America's children.  The evidence is there for all to see.  'Gayness' is not about 'who you are,' it's about 'what you do.' The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force has now, in effect, acknowledged that reality.  Their honesty is refreshing and unexpected," concluded Barber. 


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aids; gay; grids; hiv; homosexualagenda; homosexuallinks; lgbt; riskybehavior
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To: ElkGroveDan; SW6906

Or bend over for!


52 posted on 02/14/2008 3:03:19 PM PST by namsman
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Other gay organizations are gonna go crazy! They’ll get it in the end though.

LMAO! I almost choked.

53 posted on 02/14/2008 3:10:34 PM PST by Spirochete
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To: NYer
Kudos to Concerned Women for America's Matt Barber for encouraging Matt Foreman to finally admit to the public the long-known or at least, suspected truth about the major source for AIDS; men engaging in anal sex with other men.

Unfortunately, I expect this long-overdue admission by a gay activist (Matt Foreman) to be ignored or 'buried' by the MSM.

54 posted on 02/14/2008 3:12:07 PM PST by Jim Scott (Time Heals)
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To: Spirochete

Choking is good for the planet. You spew less CO2 that way!


55 posted on 02/14/2008 3:22:33 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Spirochete

“Oh yeah, all right
Are you going to be in my dreams
Tonight?

And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make.”


56 posted on 02/14/2008 3:25:43 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Melas

Not a day goes by that I don’t hear about a HIV positive patient on the OB unit where my wife works, and these women didn’t contract it by being gay.
______________________________________________________

Do you live in NY or LA.....everyday?


57 posted on 02/14/2008 3:26:57 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Melas
(Offending stupid people since 1963)

Maybe you offend them because with idiot misinformation like this, you give stupid people a bad name.

58 posted on 02/14/2008 3:35:03 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: NYer

“HIV is a gay disease”

Well, duh!


59 posted on 02/14/2008 3:42:13 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: TheKidster
I don’t know that gay men have more partners, I think men in general are more apt to have anonymous sex gay or normal.

There is an abundance of research beginning at least with Masters and Johnson explicating the huge difference in promiscuity between homosexual and heterosexual men. The data are consistent and astounding. If you wish your comments to earn any respect at all, please do not waste our time with profoundly ignorant guesses. Thank you.

60 posted on 02/14/2008 3:43:10 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Edison

The quoted section of your post is not in my #12 which you answer. Perhaps you answered the wrong post?

Personally, i don’t give a rip over where the disease starts, stays or ends up. i simply want to see it CURED.


61 posted on 02/14/2008 3:44:55 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Edison

Think you meant to reply to #9


62 posted on 02/14/2008 3:46:27 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: NYer

between being gay/bi and intravenous drug use, i’d put it at, what, 94%?


63 posted on 02/14/2008 3:47:28 PM PST by thefactor (the innocent shall not suffer nor the guilty go free...)
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To: NYer

Smart move. They weren’t fooling anyone anyway. This USA200 bug is making AIDS look like a back-bencher anyway. Moving through the gay community now, and kills quicker.


65 posted on 02/14/2008 3:52:01 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Resolute Conservative
Is ugliness and unwashed a disease?

We obviously don't know the same lesbians, LOL.

Some of the ones i know are real cuties, and some could stop a runaway train, same as any other population.

67 posted on 02/14/2008 3:55:52 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Morgana

A new, more extreme strain of MRSA. MRSA is a bacterial infection highly resistant to antibiotics. USA200 has a high resistance to those antibiotics that still have some effect on the more common MRSA strain.

MRSA is something you used to only find in hospitals. Now the beast is loose, and you are seeing it anywhere there is lots of physical contact - HS football players catching it from artificial turf. Wrestlers in IC and Prep competitions are catching it, etc.

USA200 started cropping up in SF, Mass, NYC and other areas of high homosexual population concentrations. Totally downplayed in the MSM, but the CDC is starting to freak out, because the same sort of epidemiological patterns they saw with AIDS is manifesting with USA200, only way, way faster.


68 posted on 02/14/2008 4:03:50 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Antoninus; Melas

The CDC statistics back you up completely. Also, half the cases amongst women are from injection drug use.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/reports/2003report/pdf/table7.pdf


69 posted on 02/14/2008 4:04:48 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: NYer
I had a friend in high school who's dad got confused and all of a sudden there were all these queer guys hanging around my friends house. Which made it hard to sneak girls in to the house and upstairs and try to remove them from whatever they had wrapped around them at the time. But that's another story. My friends dad was rich and they had a huge house so he'd have parties for these queer guys most every weekend.

At these queer parties I'd ask those (mostly drunk) queer guys how it could make sense for them to put their thing in another guys north side and then put the poop covered item in their mouths. They never ever seemed to like that question or answer it either. They'd always start talking about "love" and "being together" and such flowery stuff. Then they'd look at my 16 year old self and try to get me to join up and be queer too. When they tried that and touch me I found they don't like it when you throw them up against a wall either. Except for the one big guy with the leather chaps outfit on. He liked to get bounced off things and I was happy to help him out.

Other than the queer part they were some of the funniest and happiest guys you'd ever run across. Until you got to know them (man they like to chatter!) and then they were not real happy and mostly kind of messed up in the head.

I'm pretty sure a lot of those guys came out of their mommies wired up wrong. Maybe like instead of getting the thing where a guys head says "nice front" or "nice rear" when he sees a gal? Guys know what I mean. That's just something you are made with and there is nothing you can do about it. It appears to me that with these queer guys at some point nature made a mistake and instead their head says "nice Bob". Or Ralph or whoever.

I'm sure glad that didn't happen to me. In fact, when those queer guys would get to kissing each other on the lips at the parties I mentioned above it made me queasy sick in the stomach. I just can't watch that. I don't know why but that's just the way I am.

70 posted on 02/14/2008 4:08:56 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Hillary / Obama - 2008 <---Bet on it. She will do it to win.)
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To: NYer
Image hosted by Photobucket.com filthy disease ridden queers seeing the light???
72 posted on 02/14/2008 4:16:37 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: NYer

ping


73 posted on 02/14/2008 4:16:54 PM PST by trailboss800
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To: Morgana
Image hosted by Photobucket.com nature is cruel, but fair...
76 posted on 02/14/2008 4:29:51 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: isthisnickcool

ok, you said your friend’s dad got ‘confused,’ then that gays are ‘born that way.’ was the dad born that way? did he stay gay? I can’t speak for all, but most of the gay men I know had absent or bad fathers. I think some go gay to have close male relationships they missed out on. A lot of lesbians also, and many were victims of sexual abuse, especially the ‘lipstick’ lesbians. The breakdown of the family and no fathers is contributory.


77 posted on 02/14/2008 4:39:40 PM PST by informavoracious
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To: TheKidster

You’ve never heard the term “tea room” or “gay bathouse”? When I lived in SF’s SOMAR distict in the mid 80’s, there was a parking lot next alley over that every weekend hosted 10-20 gays against the board fence performing oral sex while a row of cars with 12v spotlights trained on the scene watched like some demented drive-in movie. This could be seen from many houses surrounding the lot. Neighbors with families who illuminated the parking lot with yard lights mounted on their houses had their car windows broken, homes vandalized or suffered phone harassment. Eventually the lot owner was forced to install flood light illumination and the problem moved elsewhere. Anonymous public sex is a core gay institution.


78 posted on 02/14/2008 4:42:30 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: isthisnickcool
I'm pretty sure a lot of those guys came out of their mommies wired up wrong

Your first implied premise: homosexuality is a trait a person is born with, like hair color…

Counter argument: Procreation (without extraordinary scientific intervention, i.e., in-vitro fertilization, etc.) is impossible to exclusively homosexual behavior practitioners. Therefore, unless homosexuality is a genetic anomaly (mutation or defect), the owners of this trait would completely disappear from the population in a few generations or less.

Counter argument: Genetic anomalies (e.g. Hutchinson-Gilford Progeria syndrome) which preclude their victims from reproducing appear in the population at the sum total (for all varieties) rate of far less than 0.5%, according to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). Therefore, if homosexuality were a genetic anomaly (i.e., an inborn trait result-ing from a mutation, defect, etc.), it would appear in the population at much lower incidence than is observed (approximately 2%). Consequently, it is a logical conclusion that all but 0.5% of homosexuals (at most) behave as such out of choice.

Your second implied premise: homosexuality is a trait that, if possessed, the owners thereof must act upon.

Counter argument: The existence of a “trait” does require its owner to act that “trait.” (Of course, this statement assumes that the “trait” is not a psychosis.) For example, heterosexual “orientation” requires no one to participate in rape, bigamy, prostitution, incest or any other sexual activity. Logically, therefore, the presence of a homosexual “orientation” (if such exists) requires no one to participate in homosex-ual activity.

Counter argument: [Using your (implied) logic and illustrative argument ad absurdum] Homicidal behavior is inborn, like race …Are you implying that perpetrators of homicide should not be subject to legal, moral, societal sanctions or, possibly, psychiatric help? Substitute any legally prohibited behavior you like and the point remains the same.
79 posted on 02/14/2008 4:46:34 PM PST by Lucky Dog
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To: Morgana

I highly recommend the aforementioned book, And The Band Played On, for anyone who dares to be clued in on the finer points of homosexual practice. Shilts’ reporting pulled no punches. When I read the book, it was so frank I did not suspect that Shilts himself had AIDS, which he later died from. WARNING...GRAPHIC...Read about men in private bathhouse rooms lying on their stomachs next to a can of Crisco, “taking on all comers.” Read about ‘fisting’ and the “prime taste treat” of ‘rimming’ which will give you a nice case of giardia from ingesting human waste. It is not for the faint hearted or weak stomached, but it will wake people up to reality. HBO made a good but sanitized movie version. Shilts was a brave man who chronicalled the outbreak and the deathstyle that wrought it.


80 posted on 02/14/2008 5:42:06 PM PST by informavoracious
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To: informavoracious

chronicled not chronicalled


81 posted on 02/14/2008 5:48:24 PM PST by informavoracious
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To: hinckley buzzard

Sorry buckwheat but it’s not wrong just because you want it to be.


82 posted on 02/14/2008 5:50:30 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: MrB

I quoted the CDC and NIH. I assume that any FReeper is intelligent to verify such easily verifiable data without a link.


83 posted on 02/14/2008 5:54:01 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: TheKidster

My concern wasn’t how it spread to the heterosexual community, only that it had spread to the heterosexual community. The pig is out of that particular poke, so calling HIV a gay disease is ignorant.


84 posted on 02/14/2008 5:55:42 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

Dallas.


85 posted on 02/14/2008 5:55:58 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Melas
Sorry, that’s bunk. Not a day goes by that I don’t hear about a HIV positive patient on the OB unit where my wife works, and these women didn’t contract it by being gay. If HIV were a gay disease it would strike only men, but instead women account for 26% of HIV infections and the NIH and CDC both estimate that 80% of those cases are from heterosexual contact.

I don't really like delving into the dark and dirty details of how they got it, but it might be enlightening to know how many of them had anal sex with their partner. I've read that the membrane in the lower intestines is much thinner than that of the vaginal wall, and thus anal sex is a higher risk for a woman than vaginal sex.

86 posted on 02/14/2008 6:26:18 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Morgana
You brought up good points, however gay men have more partners than straight people too.

Wow. I just had one of those Blinding Flashes of the Obvious. I was reading your post thinking "Yes, why is it that gay men have more sex partners than straight men," and suddenly it came to me: straight men have to get over women's many defenses. They have to woo us, or at least seduce us, fool us, or get us drunk. The old joke: women need a reason to have sex, men just need a place.

So you get the gay community, where NO ONE, presumably, is holding out for flowers and candlelight... just a bunch of guys looking for a place... the male sex drive remains the same whether it's aimed at a woman or a man...

Sorry, folks, I'm just musing out loud and marveling that this has never occurred to me, that the gay male community would necessarily be promiscuous because it's all men.

Not to cast aspersions on all men, of course. But, well... there you have it.

87 posted on 02/14/2008 6:34:15 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: isthisnickcool
I'm pretty sure a lot of those guys came out of their mommies wired up wrong.

I think so too. I have a student right now, only 12, and already he's just as gay as can be. Looks, mannerisms, posture, interests, hobbies... he's just a little girlie-boy. And he's confided in me that he likes boys, and who he has a crush on and all that. He's only twelve, but you can just take one look at the prissy little thing and say "Yup. Gay."

88 posted on 02/14/2008 6:42:17 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Morgana
WOW! Now that is sick! You should have reported what those men tried!

I met a lot of queer men when I was 16-18. When they tried to seduce me I thought it was funny. They seemed like strange cartoon characters to me.

Besides my friends dad being strange my friends sister was a lesbian. She was a little scary sometimes. Real butch type who brought home the best looking girls. Note that we were all in catholic school at the time. So it was surprising when some girl who was a babe we all lusted after at school showed up at my friends to spend the night with his sister. I liked the lesbian sister, she had the best Playboy collection hidden under her bed. Hey, I was 16....She hated my guts. But she hated all males.

89 posted on 02/14/2008 6:42:28 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Hillary / Obama - 2008 <---Bet on it. She will do it to win.)
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To: informavoracious; Lucky Dog
ok, you said your friend’s dad got ‘confused,’ then that gays are ‘born that way.’ was the dad born that way? did he stay gay? I can’t speak for all, but most of the gay men I know had absent or bad fathers. I think some go gay to have close male relationships they missed out on. A lot of lesbians also, and many were victims of sexual abuse, especially the ‘lipstick’ lesbians. The breakdown of the family and no fathers is contributory.

I don't know about my friends fathers father. My friends father was a nice guy but distant. His mother was a great lady but drank a lot. I doubt there was any abuse of my friends lesbian sister. My friends father was around every day. He was a dentist and made a lot of $$$. At one point he bought a travel agency for his "friend" who was a swishy little guy. It was on the corner of Montrose and Westheimer in Houston which is the queer enclave. So we were down there a lot and that started some odd adventures for us I won't go in to.

The little queer guy ran the travel agency and promptly stole money like crazy. And my friends father did not care.

Once my friends dad bought the travel agency he and his wife and many times the little queer started traveling all over the world. Especially in the summer. So there we were, age 17, with a huge house stocked with all the food and liquor we could want and a couple of Mercedes and Jags we could use all we wanted. Nice big pool, etc. I almost lived there at times and my parents thought I was being closely supervised by my friends parents. Until my dad met my friends dad one day and my dads "gaydar" went off. Another story.

As far as whether these guys were born queer? I can't say 100% for sure but I do know many of them hated themselves because of what they were doing. Oh, they'd act like it was great, especially the "swishy" ones. But I had many a late night conversation with a drunk queer and found that many were self-loathing and self-destructive. If some could have changed I believe they would have.

I'd expect that my experience back then was somewhat unique since there are no way near the number of queer folk as they would want us to believe. I also saw the advent of the local gay activist groups. Those guys were not like the swishy ones at all. What they wanted then is what I guess what they want now. And that is that you HAVE to agree they are normal and that they are just like the rest of us. Over the years those activist queers have done a brilliant job of manipulating our society such that it now turns a blind eye to what queers "do" to each other. Which are things I find gross because.

Sorry for the long and boring post.......

90 posted on 02/14/2008 7:21:34 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Hillary / Obama - 2008 <---Bet on it. She will do it to win.)
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To: isthisnickcool
"Sorry for the long and boring post....... "

Thanks for sharing your observations. In my previous career, we often had to reconstruct the last 24 hours of a homosexual male victims' life.

Very common to find 5 to 6 sex-partners per day, even on a week night.

In speaking with the victims families, the comment, "We knew he was different from the time he was a 4th to 5th grader", was often heard.

I wonder if being homosexual is some kind of punishment for past life transgressions?

91 posted on 02/14/2008 7:48:37 PM PST by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: investigateworld

I don’t know why queers are queer but I’m pretty sure that some of them can’t help it. But I cannot prove that and I don’t think anyone else can either. It is one of those things. Like proving or disproving there is a God or trying to figure out why someone supports Ron Paul. They are one of lifes mysteries.....


92 posted on 02/14/2008 8:06:45 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Hillary / Obama - 2008 <---Bet on it. She will do it to win.)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
Actually, lesbians are equally at risk for the new staph infection in the community. In addition, may of the practices they engage in put put them at risk for all sorts of injuries and Hepatitis.

Trans people there are a whole lot of other as well as the same risks.

93 posted on 02/14/2008 8:14:27 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Indeed! Hopefully we will finally see some honesty on the subject. Instead of kids being told, at impressionable ages, that it’s a healthy lifestyle, and condoms prevent everything. Which of course they do not.
94 posted on 02/14/2008 8:16:11 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Melas
ONLY if they have shared needles with someone who has it, been stabbed with a needles during medical care or something, OR their mate is bi-sexual. Whatever the reason they caught it, it still originates with homosexual behavior.
95 posted on 02/14/2008 8:19:47 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: scripter

ping


96 posted on 02/14/2008 8:25:35 PM PST by latina4dubya
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To: latina4dubya

Thanks for the ping!


97 posted on 02/14/2008 8:33:12 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: isthisnickcool
LOL! Totally true

Your tagline: Dittos

Some night when the kiddies are all in bed, I'll tell ya about a gorgeous Lipstick lesbo that hit town and generated a homicide and several suicides .... then moved on.

98 posted on 02/14/2008 8:37:41 PM PST by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: JimRed
If we’d quarantined all active male homosexuals in the early 80’s, HIV-AIDS would be a footnote in medical journals.

I don't think we could have quarantined all those in Africa. AIDS, like most diseases, came from a cesspool part of the world. Over the next five years, Bush wants to send thirty billion to Africa to fight AIDS. We've told those people over twenty years how to stop spreading the disease but they won't listen. Wait till Osamabam becomes president. I'm sure, with him having close relatives in Africa, he'll want to spend more.

99 posted on 02/14/2008 8:50:03 PM PST by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: Melas; MrB
I quoted the CDC and NIH.

The following is from my profile and contains links from the CDC. The links support the context of the article. That is, HIV appears to discriminate disproportionately against gay men.

Center for Disease Control (CDC)

Cases of HIV infection and AIDS in the United States and Dependent Areas, 2005 (Revised June 2007)
Cases of HIV Infection and AIDS in the United States, 2004
Cases of HIV Infection and AIDS in the United States, 2003
Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) Risk, Prevention, and Testing Behaviors --- United States, National HIV Behavioral Surveillance System: Men Who Have Sex with Men, November 2003--April 2005


100 posted on 02/14/2008 8:56:11 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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