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Top "Gay" Organization Comes Clean: "HIV is a gay disease."
LifeSite ^ | February 14, 2008

Posted on 02/14/2008 1:56:50 PM PST by NYer

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To: isthisnickcool

I guess you have to define ‘can’t help it.’ Draw a difference between desires and actions. Kleptomaniacs can’t help it. Pedophiles can’t help it. Serial killers can’t help it. But people do not need to act on every desire or demand that others affirm their desires and action upon them.


101 posted on 02/14/2008 10:57:24 PM PST by informavoracious
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To: informavoracious
By "can't help it" I mean that from my observations they can't help wanting to do what they want to do with the same sex. I have to point out that your comparisons are a stretch.

The Kleptomaniac steals from someone who does not want them to steal from them. The Pedophile molests the innocent that do not want to be molested and I'm sure you agree that those killed by serial killers likely don't wish to die.

My observation of queer men is that they all want the same things with each other. Yuk!

Your last sentence is spot on.

102 posted on 02/14/2008 11:13:47 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Hillary / Obama - 2008 <---Bet on it. She will do it to win.)
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To: HardStarboard
"lie"

The same homosexuals who engaged in unsafe anal sex were the first to blame Reagan for the spread of the disease. These criminally responsible morons could have stopped the spread in the early eighties. Pleasure took precedence over morality. The gay community should stand in shame over their actions. Many of their leaders should be tried for criminal charges for spreading malicious lies and slander as well as promoting unsafe sex. They are the ones guilty of helping kill hundreds of thousands of people unnecessarily. And not Reagan.

103 posted on 02/15/2008 3:13:45 AM PST by driftless2
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To: TheKidster
If we’d quarantined all active male homosexuals in the early 80’s, HIV-AIDS would be a footnote in medical journals, and we’d be Nazis.


When firefighters start back fires in the forest are they arsonist?

When surgeons remove cancerous growths in the body, are they butchers?

When the courts find someone guilty and that person is locked up are they kidnappers?

Because someting is similar does not mean it is the same.

The Nazi went after homosexuals (and others) because of hate there was no other motive behind their action.

Quaratine has a long history in this nation although it has fallen out of favor as a means of controlling deseases.

Up to the 1950s it was common to quaratine people with deseases such as TB and polio. In case you are too young to remember, polio was the big desease of the first half of the last century (think MARCH OF DIMES).

If those affected with HIV had been treated the same way other sexually transmitted deseases were treated the epidemic would have been short lived.

Further, I find it incredible after all these years with all that is known, those most at risk of the virus have refused to modify their own behavior.

As someone elsewhere has pointed out, HIV is the first virus with civil rights. It is the homosexual community that has condemned themselves to these risk by fighting any attempt fight the cause and spread of the desease.

104 posted on 02/15/2008 3:51:01 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: IncPen

ping


105 posted on 02/15/2008 4:00:19 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: scripter

The person said “I quoted the CDC and NIH” (look it up for yourself, she implies),

meaning, “I quoted a source that looked at the CDC and NIH and interpreted the stats according to their own agenda.”

Nope, not acceptable. I want a direct link to the CDC/NIH where this person found the statistic that 27% of HIV infected people are women. And it won’t be forthcoming, I know.


106 posted on 02/15/2008 5:39:57 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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107 posted on 02/15/2008 5:58:33 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Razz Barry
I don't think we could have quarantined all those in Africa.

I should have been more clear; had it stayed an Africa-specific disease it would be a footnote here. They have all sorts of diseases over there that most of our doctors have never heard of.

108 posted on 02/15/2008 6:57:16 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: A_perfect_lady
So you get the gay community, where NO ONE, presumably, is holding out for flowers and candlelight...

There's another very important part. Women demand fealty; a monogamous relationship. Men acquiesce. Or, at least, most do.

109 posted on 02/15/2008 7:00:07 AM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: investigateworld

Reincarnation has been no-no for 1500+ years now. ;)


110 posted on 02/15/2008 7:14:07 AM PST by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Joe Boucher; TheKidster
Sort of like the internment camps for the Japs in WWII MAybe put them in the desert too?

If we’d quarantined all active male homosexuals in the early 80’s, HIV-AIDS would be a footnote in medical journals, and we’d be Nazis.

I said quarantine, not intern or imprison. Look up the difference.

111 posted on 02/15/2008 7:14:36 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: Melas

AIDS is more prevalent in the gay community because

I’m gonna get a bit gross but will try to explain it as delicately as possible.

During anal sex, blood vessels rupture. Blood is the fastest way to get something into your system disease, drugs ect.
Homosexuals have a higher chance if unprotected sex occurs.
So it is not ignorant to say it is a common result of homosexual behavior.


112 posted on 02/15/2008 8:28:12 AM PST by Larebil (My name is liberal backwards, since they backwards thinking)
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To: Jim Scott

I’m betting that truth-teller Matt Foreman will be labeled a traitor and barred from presses and platforms controlled by gays.


113 posted on 02/15/2008 8:49:20 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("If liberty means anything, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." Orwell)
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To: Unassuaged; isthisnickcool
"nick" has been very candid in discussing his observations, which takes a bit of bravery on this forum :^)

Also having been an outside observer of the homo life, it has to be some kind of Divine? payback?

When a homosexual killer goes off the deep end, put on the bio-hazard suits!

And why is reincarnation a no no for Christians?

Council of Trent?

114 posted on 02/15/2008 11:12:57 AM PST by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: JimRed

I said “sort of like” not exactly the same.
But either way you control movement and access.


115 posted on 02/15/2008 12:15:11 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

Using the homosexual pc terminology, gay male is redundant. Gay means male, lesbian means female. Don’t blame me for their language idiosyncracies. I prefer to just use the term homosexual, because it plainly states the mentality and activities of those involved.


116 posted on 02/15/2008 12:18:36 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Will the last conservative in the GOP please shut off the lights?)
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To: NYer

How do you deal with the sicko’s that want to get AIDS so they can feel special and die before they get old and ugly when no one will want them anymore. We are talking about many people here that are pathologically sick.

I watched a program a few years ago where they interviewed a young man who said he didn’t want to live past 40 because nobody wants a wrinkled old man. He was actively placing ads in the local and national homosexual papers searching for someone to infect him. As my friend used to say the boy wasn’t right.


117 posted on 02/15/2008 12:28:56 PM PST by redangus
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
They’ll get it in the end though

They always get it in the end. Hind end!

118 posted on 02/15/2008 12:29:37 PM PST by JackDanielsOldNo7 (On guard until the seal is broken)
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To: Edison

Does anyone else remember that when HIV first surfaced it was linked to the 4 Hs—homosexuality, heroin, Haiti, and hemophelia—the Haiti being the African/ Haitian merchant link to the States—the heterosexual component was always linked to injecting drugs or blood transfusions as well as sex with a partner who’d had a heroin addition habit or boyfriend somewhere down the line (hence the large African American/ Hispanic inner city link)...the gay lobby (not unlike the current Muslim lobby I might add) feared being lumped in with the dangerous group so they shut down the conversation...so many people have to die to maintain a PC dialogue.


119 posted on 02/15/2008 12:41:39 PM PST by foreshadowed at waco
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To: NYer

HIV is a gay disease?

What next, the sun is responsible for warming the earth?

More guns =less crime?

More welfare=more dependency?


120 posted on 02/15/2008 12:46:55 PM PST by icwhatudo
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To: hinckley buzzard

Links please Mr. Homosexual expert.


121 posted on 02/15/2008 1:11:09 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN; hinckley buzzard
The reason we don't use such draconian policies against US citizens with an infectious disease is that we now have medical and technical means of combatting these diseases. Many people avoided catching polio by simply avoiding public swimming pools. That is a huge burden so why not expect people to do a simple thing like wear a condom, or not have sex outside of marraige? We have better ways to screen donated blood so the likliehood of another kid getting it like White is greatly reduced, the risk isn't high enough to imprison thousands of Americans.

If those affected with HIV had been treated the same way other sexually transmitted deseases were treated the epidemic would have been short lived.

A shot of penicillan was never a cure for aids like it is for most STD's. We used to give labotomies to people who were too high strung or had a chemical imbalance or were mentally retarded. Why don't we do that anymore? The right answer to that question is also why we don't round up thousands of citizens with a disease and imprison them. If you don't want AIDS then stay faithful to your current or future spouse or if that's impossible wear a condom and never let a guy poke you in the pooper. It's that simple. For all of the people freaking out about this; what are you so afraid of? Are you having a bunch of bareback sex with junkies and homo's? Are you sharing needles when you mainline crank and coke and smack? That's how you get it, pretty much the only way. I think we have a BUNCH of Larry Craigs and closet junkies on this thread. The rest of us really have nothing to fear from AIDS.
122 posted on 02/15/2008 1:24:37 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: JimRed

Whether you keep someone in thier own home or a hospital or a jail cell, denying a person thier freedom is imprisonment.


123 posted on 02/15/2008 1:29:18 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: Larebil
So it is not ignorant to say it is a common result of homosexual behavior.

Then say that. That however is not what elicited my response, and that HIV is transmitted more readily through homosexual sex is not the equivalent of calling it a gay disease.

When you call it a gay disease, you are by definition saying that it is not a heterosexual disease, which is not only misleading, but dangerously so.

124 posted on 02/15/2008 3:50:15 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: investigateworld
And why is reincarnation a no no for Christians?

Those who test NIV positive know intuitively reincarnation isn't the ticket.

125 posted on 02/15/2008 4:03:58 PM PST by Cvengr (Fear sees the problem emotion never solves. Faith sees & accepts the solution, problem solved.)
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To: TheKidster

Failure to respect legitimate authority always leads to loss of freedom. When perverts fail to respect the proper role of sex as given by God to man, they still have volition, but will lose many freedoms they would have had they respected the institutions He had established, including marriage, family, and ultimately sound national policy.


126 posted on 02/15/2008 4:06:59 PM PST by Cvengr (Fear sees the problem emotion never solves. Faith sees & accepts the solution, problem solved.)
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To: Melas
I was at the CDC for six years. Even then, it was internally regarded as a gay male disease.

Anal sex is the most common vehicle for delivery because of the fragile blood vessels in the rectum. It is true that women have contracted AIDS and it is generally for the same reason and the same way. Indiscriminate anal sex. But the prime carrier are gay men, including on the African continent where female anal rape is common.

You have a right to your own opinion but not to your own facts.

127 posted on 02/15/2008 4:14:25 PM PST by Paine's Ghost (todays conservative ideals were called socialism in 1960)
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To: JimRed
I should have been more clear; had it stayed an Africa-specific disease it would be a footnote here. They have all sorts of diseases over there that most of our doctors have never heard of.

I've thought that myself. But then, I'm sure we'd still be giving billions to Africa for treatment of AIDS. I don't really understand why.

128 posted on 02/15/2008 9:26:43 PM PST by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: MrB

even if they are true, his stats don’t disprove the story. His stats account for 21% of all cases coming from “hetero” behavior.


129 posted on 02/18/2008 8:55:13 PM PST by thehumanlynx (Duncan Hunter . goodbye to the true conservative. Nice voting fellow Repubs..)
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To: isthisnickcool
That's just something you are made with and there is nothing you can do about it.

Wrong. There are mounds of research that says otherwise. Many places like Exodus International and Venus Magazine have the real life people who show that you can do something about it if you choose to.

130 posted on 02/18/2008 9:08:17 PM PST by thehumanlynx (Duncan Hunter . goodbye to the true conservative. Nice voting fellow Repubs..)
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