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Is Al Qaeda Propaganda Forcing the Marine Corps to Reinvent Itself? [New documents revealed]
Defend Our Marines ^ | February 15, 2008 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 02/14/2008 7:06:26 PM PST by RedRover

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To: pissant

This is what happens when you don’t have a Declaration of War and the President and his chronies get to make their own rules regarding warfare.

Time for a Revolution. It’s time to converge on DC and make some heads roll.


41 posted on 02/14/2008 10:02:26 PM PST by Chucktallica101
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To: RedRover

Hi Red Rover thank you for the ping.


42 posted on 02/14/2008 11:26:38 PM PST by Brandie (Just a Dittohead that loves America. NO way McCain. God bless our Troops, especially the Marines!)
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To: RedRover; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; ...

Ping


43 posted on 02/15/2008 2:51:28 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: RedRover
Welcome to 4th Generation Warfare... See T.X. Hammes “The Sling and the Stone”.
44 posted on 02/15/2008 2:56:32 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: All

The way the Marines can be effective is to kill everyone and blow up everything, that’s how it works damn it!
Another proof that the USA is on a fast fast decline into oblivion.I’m disgusted with the MSM and the ACLU types who now dictate what this country does .
Soon every soldier will have to have an attorney with him.


45 posted on 02/15/2008 3:06:08 AM PST by sonic109
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To: Chucktallica101

Time for a Revolution. It’s time to converge on DC and make some heads roll.
I’ve been saying that here for a long time ( and once got in trouble for it too )


46 posted on 02/15/2008 3:07:26 AM PST by sonic109
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To: Brandie

Hi back at you, Brandie! Thanks for being aboard.


47 posted on 02/15/2008 3:29:13 AM PST by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover; Lancey Howard; Girlene; brityank; Thunder 6; jazusamo; pissant; P-Marlowe

Scenario #66

If you are being shot at, keep your head down and use your specially supplied Urban Warfare Periscope (UWP). Attempt to ID the source of the fire. Once ID’d, the target, simply because of fire directed at you, is not necessarily hostile. He could be celebrating a wedding. Perhaps he is using rubber bullets. It is possible he is shooting at a rabbit near you, and not directly at you.

To determine if his intent is hostile, raise you hand with a Snickers Bar in it. This is a universal sign of friendship. An additional advantage of this is rubber bullet determination. If your hand is hit, then you will be able to eliminate the rubber bullet question, unless the possible hostile shooter is a bad shot. In that case, you should stand to provide a larger target. (Recommend that you be wearing your protective vest at this time, but rest assured that a rubber bullet will do no lasting injury.)

If all else fails, remove your M1 WFOS (White flag of surrender) from your pouch and wave it visibly back and forth on the provided aluminum extension rod. (Note: special WFOF instructions are also in French.)

Prior to capture, instruct all of your team to don their issued Kevlar Neckscarves (ABKN). Higher headquarters has determined that this new defensive device with prevent any initial efforts at throat slicing and beheading on the part of Al Qaeda rabbit hunters.

The Anti-Beheading Kevlar Neckscarves (ABKN) are also useful should a sandstorm arise during your captivity period.

After careful determination by the Military Public Relations Directorate, the standard of “Leave No Man Behind” has been replaced by a new motto “Kiss Your Behind Goodbye.”


48 posted on 02/15/2008 3:40:23 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins

Excellent ..


49 posted on 02/15/2008 3:44:13 AM PST by sonic109
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To: sonic109; RedRover; Lancey Howard; Girlene; brityank; Thunder 6; jazusamo; pissant; P-Marlowe
Thank you, but there were a few typos:

Scenario #66

If you are being shot at, keep your head down and use your specially supplied Urban Warfare Periscope (UWP). Attempt to ID the source of the fire. Once ID’d, the target, simply because of fire directed at you, is not necessarily hostile. He could be celebrating a wedding. Perhaps he is using rubber bullets. It is possible he is shooting at a rabbit near you, and not directly at you.

To determine if his intent is hostile, raise you hand with a Snickers Bar in it. This is a universal sign of friendship. An additional advantage of this is rubber bullet determination. If your hand is hit, then you will be able to eliminate the rubber bullet question, unless the possible hostile shooter is a bad shot. In that case, you should stand to provide a larger target. (Recommend that you be wearing your protective vest at this time, but rest assured that a rubber bullet will do no lasting injury.)

If all else fails, remove your M1 WFOS (White flag of surrender) from your pouch and wave it visibly back and forth on the provided aluminum extension rod. (Note: special WFOS instructions are also in French.)

Prior to capture, instruct all of your team to don their issued Kevlar Neckscarves (ABKN). Higher headquarters has determined that this new defensive device will prevent any initial efforts at throat slicing and beheading on the part of Al Qaeda rabbit hunters.

The Anti-Beheading Kevlar Neckscarves (ABKN) are also useful should a sandstorm arise during your captivity period.

After careful determination by the Military Public Relations Directorate, the standard of “Leave No Man Behind” has been replaced by a new motto “Kiss Yo' Behind Goodbye.”

50 posted on 02/15/2008 3:51:26 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins
That was worth a repeat.

After careful determination by the Military Public Relations Directorate, the standard of “Leave No Man Behind” has been replaced by a new motto “Kiss Yo' Behind Goodbye.”
51 posted on 02/15/2008 4:12:07 AM PST by Girlene (LOLOL!!!)
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To: RedRover

Add me to ping list please.

don-o - Dad of a future Marine


52 posted on 02/15/2008 4:16:45 AM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: RedRover

I’m trying to imagine how Gen. George Washington would have reacted to this set of “rules.”

Hanging or tar and feathers?


53 posted on 02/15/2008 4:24:38 AM PST by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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To: don-o; jazusamo

You’re on, don-o. Welcome aboard.


54 posted on 02/15/2008 4:32:28 AM PST by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover

This crap reminds me of the rules I had to follow when recieving MAA training on the Independence. Use only the mininum force necessary which ran counter to my belief and experience that maximum force applied immediately usually ends any physical engagements/dangers you encounter. I can’t imagine our troops being hamstrung like this during WW II.


55 posted on 02/15/2008 4:45:59 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: RedRover
One important reason behind the success in Al Anbar was the application of these rules by Marines and Soldiers. The Sunnis saw that we were there to make things better and not occupiers. They saw the Al Queda lording over their people like they were some form of occupiers. The differences created loyalties. The Marines have been teaching the Iraqi Army and police to show the same attitudes whereas traditionally they have been intimidators like the AQ types. The comment here that we will not get a western democracy will be true for a long time to come but we are moving them forward. Politically they are at about the 18th century by western standards but they have advanced 500 years to get there.
56 posted on 02/15/2008 4:46:37 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: RedRover

I figured you was jest tryin to get some attention


57 posted on 02/15/2008 7:55:36 AM PST by concretebob (If liberals aren't traitors, their only defense at this point is they are incredibly stupid)
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To: RedRover; freema

Thanks for the ping.


58 posted on 02/15/2008 8:48:48 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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To: fatima

You’re welcome, fatima. And thank you for the prayers.


59 posted on 02/15/2008 9:36:22 AM PST by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover; don-o

Welcome don-o! Congrats to both your son and you.


60 posted on 02/15/2008 9:39:35 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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