Posted on 02/15/2008 4:58:53 AM PST by SJackson
Biblical hero Joseph 'was really a Muslim' Palestinians make astonishing claim, deny they'll help restore burned tomb
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Building at Joseph's Tomb site after Palestinian Authority took control in 2000 .
In the wake of an attempt by Palestinians to burn down Joseph's Tomb – Judaism's third holiest site – Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah faction issued a statement denying it will help restore the shrine, referring to both the shrine and the biblical patriarch as "Muslim."
"Pay no attention to the rumors that we will work with Israel to restore the burial site of the holy Muslim Joseph," said the statement, issued from Nablus, the biblical city of Shechem. "We are going to guard this holy Muslim site."
Joseph's Tomb is the believed burial place of the son of Jacob who was sold by his brothers into slavery and later became viceroy of Egypt.
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Uhhhh, I’m no scholar of either the Christian or Muslim religion, but didn’t Joseph live roughly around 1 A.D., while Muhammed didn’t show up until seven or eight centuries later?
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As Pat Paulsen used to say Picky picky picky. LOL
They sure don’t get into details, do they?
2199 from creation, (1562 BCE) Joseph born
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Technically, wasn’t Jesus an arab? I have no idea where people got the fair skinned, blue eyed, long brown hair guy from. But I’m far from a Biblical scholar.
My mistake, I was mixing him up with Joseph the surrogate father of Jesus, rather than the bearer of the multicolored coat. Still, that further proves my point - 1500BC, people thought the guy Muhammed was mucking out the camel stalls.
Perhaps you’re thinking of Josephus, who was a Jewish general until he switched sides to the Romans and then wrote two large books.
Jesus an Arab? eek! he was a Jew. perhaps you meant a Semite?
Everything on the globe is muslim to a muslim.
A semite IS an arab. Don’t confuse arab with Muslim. I could be wrong since I’m going from memory, but even ashkenazi Jews (central European) aren’t really semetic by definition. The truly semetic jews are the sephardics and I think two other tribes. But again, I’m going from memory here and “semetic” has taken on a different meaning over the years.
And all of this time, I tought he was a mormon....
“I have no idea where people got the fair skinned, blue eyed, long brown hair guy from.”
Indo-European connection, anyone?
Yes indeed. There is more to this story though. The son of Abraham by his wife Sarah named Issac and his son Jacob and his twelve sons led to the Jewish race as the scriptures state.Joseph was a son of Jacob. The son of Abraham by the concubine Hagar, Ishmael, the Egyptian led to the Arab races who are the worst enemies of the sons of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, Israel. The Saviour of the world Christ Jesus came through the line of Judah, one of the 12 patriarchs of the sons of Jacob.
Ya think they would do simple math before making such a claim-IRC, Muhammad lived around 700 AD, while Joseph (son of Jacob, not husband of Mary) was circa 1000BC.
Okay I guess if you don’t rely on facts at all.
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Can you expand on that? I actually am very interested in where the western version of Jesus of Nazareth came from.
different Joseph
It is equally likely that he was a Baptist.
Likelier.
Give me a bit, I’m off to work. It will take me some time to find my sources again.
Please don’t let me forget!
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The “central European” Jews emigrated from the mideast following the destruction of the second temple, but due to genetic laws, and separation from gentiles, they maintained their ethnic continuity to a remarkable degree
Nope. you are WRONG. The Holey Kore-an says that Abraham, Isaac, Noah, Adam, Jesus and others were ALL Muslimss. And the Holey K can not be wrong. There must’ve been some time-slip continuum where the Prophet went back in time and taught these people to be good M’s. This is how Mo discovered that Jesus was not crucified on the cross, but was carried away and replaced by someone else and when Jesus was carried away, he was laughing. You don’t believe me? Infidel!!! Next you’ll say the earth is round when the HAdith says no, it is flat.
Jesus was a Semitic — a group that was related to Arabs, but not Arabs. Technically Arabs are only Bedouins who live in what is now Saudi A. Others, like the Syrians are Arameans, Iraqis are Sumerians and Assyrians, Egyptians are Coptic, libyans, algerians etc. are Berbers. Even Yemenis are more related to Axumites.
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Next they’ll be saying that he really did rape Potiphar’s wife, and that she deserved it.
He would have been though of as a Jew. Arabs didn’t come rampaging out of the Arabian peninsula till Mohammeds time. Of course Muslims lay claim to everyone back to Adam as Muslims, including Jesus.
Whachu talking about? Jesus was Italian.
He hung around with the guys, lived with mommy until middle aged, had a girl friend but did not get married, drank wine...
So Jacob, latter renamed Israel, the father of the nation Israel, his favorite child Joseph, is not an Israelite? Where do muslims get their logic from?
What does the word Adam mean? Ruddy... to show blood in the face.. The lineage from Adam to Christ was the protected blood line. Abraham's first son Ishmael is the father of the Arab peoples. Adam's offspring to Noah and his three sons are recorded in Genesis 5.
I imagine it was just that Protestant churches started using artwork depicting a more European-looking Jesus with pale skin, light brown hair and lighter-colored eyes, and that image came with Protestants when they immigrated to the United States in large numbers.
And Jesus did have a British accent - I saw the movie in 8th grade. ;)
I would guess that as missionaries brought Christianity to the northern tribes (Germans Slavs et al) they presented a Jesus that looked like them.
“Jews like all peoples come in a variety of shades.”
Especially if you’ve been conceived by the Holy Spirit
Yeah, that makes alot of sense to me. Not that it really matters what he looked like, or whether certain parts of the mythology were inspired by earlier dieties, or even the role of Mary Magdalan. All that should really matter is the teachings and message of Jesus, which unfortunatly seem to be missing today. But that’s just my viewpoint as someone who doesn’t get involved with organized religion.
Joseph was born to the Iraqi nomad, Jacob, during Jacob’s sojourn in the household of Laban, in Iraq.
Jacob was the son of Isaac, also a nomad, an inhabitant of the Negev Desert.
Joseph, the Iraqi/Egyptian/Palestinian then became 2nd in command in Egypt.
Using the American anchor baby and immigration standards, he was a citizen of Iraq, Israel, and Egypt.
Joseph, though, was not a Muslim. They did not exist until the 6th century AD, iirc. Nor was he a “religious Jew” since that religion started some 400 years after Joseph.
He was a God-Believer.
There weren’t any Muslims at that time.
Everything on the globe (a muslim covets) is muslim to a muslim.
Jesus came to earth as a Jew, but He transcends race and geography. Europeans paint him as European, Africans paint Him as African, Asians paint Him as Asian. There is no Greek nor Jew, only one in Christ Jesus.
...and was a member of carpenters union local # 123...:-)
“that” religion is 5767 years old :-)
“We are all children of God” — Pope John Paul II
I just skimmmmmed through Genesis and Abraham was born in modern day Iraq but he was called Hebrew. You must be using a different Bible than I have.
Who, through grace, created some of the most beautiful, timeless, and uplifting art known to mankind. Compare it to the ugliness called art that is commissioned today by the human secularists like the National Endowment of the Arts.
People claim Jesus came to earth as a Jew, however, His Biblical lineage comes from His mother. Mary was from the tribeS of Judah and Levi. There were/are 12 tribes, each are listed and each are given specific blessings as to who they would become.
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