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Biblical hero Joseph 'was really a Muslim'-Palestinians make astonishing claim
WorldNetDaily ^ | February 14, 2008 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 02/15/2008 4:58:53 AM PST by SJackson

Biblical hero Joseph 'was really a Muslim' Palestinians make astonishing claim, deny they'll help restore burned tomb

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Building at Joseph's Tomb site after Palestinian Authority took control in 2000 .

In the wake of an attempt by Palestinians to burn down Joseph's Tomb – Judaism's third holiest site – Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah faction issued a statement denying it will help restore the shrine, referring to both the shrine and the biblical patriarch as "Muslim."

"Pay no attention to the rumors that we will work with Israel to restore the burial site of the holy Muslim Joseph," said the statement, issued from Nablus, the biblical city of Shechem. "We are going to guard this holy Muslim site."

Joseph's Tomb is the believed burial place of the son of Jacob who was sold by his brothers into slavery and later became viceroy of Egypt.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: holyland; islamoganda; israel; joseph; revisionism
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1 posted on 02/15/2008 4:58:55 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Uhhhh, I’m no scholar of either the Christian or Muslim religion, but didn’t Joseph live roughly around 1 A.D., while Muhammed didn’t show up until seven or eight centuries later?


2 posted on 02/15/2008 5:02:52 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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3 posted on 02/15/2008 5:03:50 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: domenad
Uh, Joseph lived roughly around 1500 BC and is the Father of two separate tribes of Israel.
4 posted on 02/15/2008 5:04:56 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: domenad

As Pat Paulsen used to say Picky picky picky. LOL

They sure don’t get into details, do they?


5 posted on 02/15/2008 5:05:46 AM PST by buffyt (It's my party and I should be able to vote conservative if I want to!)
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To: domenad
oops... wrong Joseph :)

2199 from creation, (1562 BCE) Joseph born
timeline

6 posted on 02/15/2008 5:06:13 AM PST by APRPEH (Fred, say it ain't so.......)
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To: SJackson

Technically, wasn’t Jesus an arab? I have no idea where people got the fair skinned, blue eyed, long brown hair guy from. But I’m far from a Biblical scholar.


7 posted on 02/15/2008 5:07:31 AM PST by Rob112586 ("...a decrease in the quantity of legislation generally means an increase in the quality of life.")
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

My mistake, I was mixing him up with Joseph the surrogate father of Jesus, rather than the bearer of the multicolored coat. Still, that further proves my point - 1500BC, people thought the guy Muhammed was mucking out the camel stalls.


8 posted on 02/15/2008 5:07:34 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: domenad

Perhaps you’re thinking of Josephus, who was a Jewish general until he switched sides to the Romans and then wrote two large books.


9 posted on 02/15/2008 5:08:01 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (what part of 'mias gunaikos andra' do Episcopalians not understand?)
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To: Rob112586

Jesus an Arab? eek! he was a Jew. perhaps you meant a Semite?


10 posted on 02/15/2008 5:10:11 AM PST by avital2
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To: SJackson

Everything on the globe is muslim to a muslim.


11 posted on 02/15/2008 5:12:52 AM PST by TADSLOS (Be a 3.6 percenter- Write in Duncan Hunter for POTUS!)
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To: avital2

A semite IS an arab. Don’t confuse arab with Muslim. I could be wrong since I’m going from memory, but even ashkenazi Jews (central European) aren’t really semetic by definition. The truly semetic jews are the sephardics and I think two other tribes. But again, I’m going from memory here and “semetic” has taken on a different meaning over the years.


12 posted on 02/15/2008 5:13:58 AM PST by Rob112586 ("...a decrease in the quantity of legislation generally means an increase in the quality of life.")
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To: SJackson

And all of this time, I tought he was a mormon....


13 posted on 02/15/2008 5:14:01 AM PST by Homer1
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To: Rob112586

“I have no idea where people got the fair skinned, blue eyed, long brown hair guy from.”

Indo-European connection, anyone?


14 posted on 02/15/2008 5:15:00 AM PST by MacDorcha ("Anyone but McCain" will work about as well as "Anyone but Bush" (and for the same reasons))
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To: TADSLOS
Everything on the globe is muslim to a muslim.

Exactly. Whatever mine is mine. Whatever yours is mutual, for now, until it is fully mine.
15 posted on 02/15/2008 5:16:15 AM PST by alecqss
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To: domenad
[Uhhhh, I’m no scholar of either the Christian or Muslim religion, but didn’t Joseph live roughly around 1 A.D., while Muhammed didn’t show up until seven or eight centuries later?]

Yes indeed. There is more to this story though. The son of Abraham by his wife Sarah named Issac and his son Jacob and his twelve sons led to the Jewish race as the scriptures state.Joseph was a son of Jacob. The son of Abraham by the concubine Hagar, Ishmael, the Egyptian led to the Arab races who are the worst enemies of the sons of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, Israel. The Saviour of the world Christ Jesus came through the line of Judah, one of the 12 patriarchs of the sons of Jacob.

16 posted on 02/15/2008 5:16:20 AM PST by kindred (The GOP is now socialist also and is no different than the left. Fools.)
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To: domenad

Ya think they would do simple math before making such a claim-IRC, Muhammad lived around 700 AD, while Joseph (son of Jacob, not husband of Mary) was circa 1000BC.

Okay I guess if you don’t rely on facts at all.

God Bless


17 posted on 02/15/2008 5:17:55 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US Army, Retired)
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To: MacDorcha

Can you expand on that? I actually am very interested in where the western version of Jesus of Nazareth came from.


18 posted on 02/15/2008 5:18:22 AM PST by Rob112586 ("...a decrease in the quantity of legislation generally means an increase in the quality of life.")
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To: domenad

different Joseph


19 posted on 02/15/2008 5:19:51 AM PST by babble-on
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To: SJackson

It is equally likely that he was a Baptist.

Likelier.


20 posted on 02/15/2008 5:20:27 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Rob112586

Give me a bit, I’m off to work. It will take me some time to find my sources again.

Please don’t let me forget!


21 posted on 02/15/2008 5:21:06 AM PST by MacDorcha ("Anyone but McCain" will work about as well as "Anyone but Bush" (and for the same reasons))
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To: MacDorcha

Thanks, I appreciate it. Feel free to PM me as well.


22 posted on 02/15/2008 5:21:39 AM PST by Rob112586 ("...a decrease in the quantity of legislation generally means an increase in the quality of life.")
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To: Rob112586

The “central European” Jews emigrated from the mideast following the destruction of the second temple, but due to genetic laws, and separation from gentiles, they maintained their ethnic continuity to a remarkable degree


23 posted on 02/15/2008 5:22:51 AM PST by babble-on
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To: domenad

Nope. you are WRONG. The Holey Kore-an says that Abraham, Isaac, Noah, Adam, Jesus and others were ALL Muslimss. And the Holey K can not be wrong. There must’ve been some time-slip continuum where the Prophet went back in time and taught these people to be good M’s. This is how Mo discovered that Jesus was not crucified on the cross, but was carried away and replaced by someone else and when Jesus was carried away, he was laughing. You don’t believe me? Infidel!!! Next you’ll say the earth is round when the HAdith says no, it is flat.


24 posted on 02/15/2008 5:23:15 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Rob112586

Jesus was a Semitic — a group that was related to Arabs, but not Arabs. Technically Arabs are only Bedouins who live in what is now Saudi A. Others, like the Syrians are Arameans, Iraqis are Sumerians and Assyrians, Egyptians are Coptic, libyans, algerians etc. are Berbers. Even Yemenis are more related to Axumites.


25 posted on 02/15/2008 5:26:58 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: EarthBound

pingaloodle


26 posted on 02/15/2008 5:27:55 AM PST by MacDorcha ("Anyone but McCain" will work about as well as "Anyone but Bush" (and for the same reasons))
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To: domenad
Joseph certainly was NOT Muslim but he is related to their father Ishmael, first child of Abraham.
27 posted on 02/15/2008 5:29:41 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: SJackson

Next they’ll be saying that he really did rape Potiphar’s wife, and that she deserved it.


28 posted on 02/15/2008 5:31:11 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Rob112586

He would have been though of as a Jew. Arabs didn’t come rampaging out of the Arabian peninsula till Mohammeds time. Of course Muslims lay claim to everyone back to Adam as Muslims, including Jesus.


29 posted on 02/15/2008 5:33:25 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: Rob112586

Whachu talking about? Jesus was Italian.

He hung around with the guys, lived with mommy until middle aged, had a girl friend but did not get married, drank wine...


30 posted on 02/15/2008 5:34:22 AM PST by RexFamilia
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To: SJackson
Gen 37:3 Now Israel loved Joseph more than all his children, because he was the son of his old age: and he made him a coat of many colours.

So Jacob, latter renamed Israel, the father of the nation Israel, his favorite child Joseph, is not an Israelite? Where do muslims get their logic from?

31 posted on 02/15/2008 5:34:30 AM PST by bird4four4 (Behead those who suggest Islam is violent!)
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To: Rob112586
Technically, wasn’t Jesus an arab? I have no idea where people got the fair skinned, blue eyed, long brown hair guy from. But I’m far from a Biblical scholar.

What does the word Adam mean? Ruddy... to show blood in the face.. The lineage from Adam to Christ was the protected blood line. Abraham's first son Ishmael is the father of the Arab peoples. Adam's offspring to Noah and his three sons are recorded in Genesis 5.

32 posted on 02/15/2008 5:38:40 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Rob112586
Can you expand on that? I actually am very interested in where the western version of Jesus of Nazareth came from.

I imagine it was just that Protestant churches started using artwork depicting a more European-looking Jesus with pale skin, light brown hair and lighter-colored eyes, and that image came with Protestants when they immigrated to the United States in large numbers.

And Jesus did have a British accent - I saw the movie in 8th grade. ;)

33 posted on 02/15/2008 5:42:25 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: domenad
You are asking for logic from these fascists.....thats just silly.
34 posted on 02/15/2008 5:42:35 AM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: Rob112586
Have you ever seen Benjamin Netenyaho(sp)?
Can’t get much whiter and blue eyed than that fellow.
Jews like all peoples come in a variety of shades.
35 posted on 02/15/2008 5:45:35 AM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: MacDorcha; Rob112586
From the art of Renaissance artists working on commissions of Roman Catholic patrons
36 posted on 02/15/2008 5:46:32 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Joseph of Arimathea was Christ’ uncle. And his legend is he was a rich man and had tin mines in what is modern day Britain. Protestant churches might have had reason to protest.
37 posted on 02/15/2008 5:49:05 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Rob112586

I would guess that as missionaries brought Christianity to the northern tribes (Germans Slavs et al) they presented a Jesus that looked like them.


38 posted on 02/15/2008 5:49:40 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: svcw

“Jews like all peoples come in a variety of shades.”

Especially if you’ve been conceived by the Holy Spirit


39 posted on 02/15/2008 5:52:46 AM PST by jimmyo57
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To: squarebarb

Yeah, that makes alot of sense to me. Not that it really matters what he looked like, or whether certain parts of the mythology were inspired by earlier dieties, or even the role of Mary Magdalan. All that should really matter is the teachings and message of Jesus, which unfortunatly seem to be missing today. But that’s just my viewpoint as someone who doesn’t get involved with organized religion.


40 posted on 02/15/2008 5:57:26 AM PST by Rob112586 ("...a decrease in the quantity of legislation generally means an increase in the quality of life.")
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To: SJackson; P-Marlowe

Joseph was born to the Iraqi nomad, Jacob, during Jacob’s sojourn in the household of Laban, in Iraq.

Jacob was the son of Isaac, also a nomad, an inhabitant of the Negev Desert.

Joseph, the Iraqi/Egyptian/Palestinian then became 2nd in command in Egypt.

Using the American anchor baby and immigration standards, he was a citizen of Iraq, Israel, and Egypt.

Joseph, though, was not a Muslim. They did not exist until the 6th century AD, iirc. Nor was he a “religious Jew” since that religion started some 400 years after Joseph.

He was a God-Believer.


41 posted on 02/15/2008 5:59:29 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: SJackson

There weren’t any Muslims at that time.


42 posted on 02/15/2008 6:00:57 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: TADSLOS

Everything on the globe (a muslim covets) is muslim to a muslim.


43 posted on 02/15/2008 6:03:42 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: MacDorcha

Jesus came to earth as a Jew, but He transcends race and geography. Europeans paint him as European, Africans paint Him as African, Asians paint Him as Asian. There is no Greek nor Jew, only one in Christ Jesus.


44 posted on 02/15/2008 6:10:36 AM PST by informavoracious
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To: RexFamilia

...and was a member of carpenters union local # 123...:-)


45 posted on 02/15/2008 6:12:36 AM PST by QQQQ
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To: xzins

“that” religion is 5767 years old :-)


46 posted on 02/15/2008 6:15:31 AM PST by QQQQ
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To: kindred

“We are all children of God” — Pope John Paul II


47 posted on 02/15/2008 6:18:10 AM PST by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: xzins

I just skimmmmmed through Genesis and Abraham was born in modern day Iraq but he was called Hebrew. You must be using a different Bible than I have.


48 posted on 02/15/2008 6:18:13 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: bert

Who, through grace, created some of the most beautiful, timeless, and uplifting art known to mankind. Compare it to the ugliness called art that is commissioned today by the human secularists like the National Endowment of the Arts.


49 posted on 02/15/2008 6:20:16 AM PST by informavoracious
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To: informavoracious
Jesus came to earth as a Jew, but He transcends race and geography. Europeans paint him as European, Africans paint Him as African, Asians paint Him as Asian. There is no Greek nor Jew, only one in Christ Jesus.

People claim Jesus came to earth as a Jew, however, His Biblical lineage comes from His mother. Mary was from the tribeS of Judah and Levi. There were/are 12 tribes, each are listed and each are given specific blessings as to who they would become.

50 posted on 02/15/2008 6:21:44 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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