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Report Advises Jews To Avoid U. of C. Irvine Campus
Arutz 7 ^ | 2-15-08 | staff

Posted on 02/15/2008 9:58:06 AM PST by Nachum

(IsraelNN.com) A local task force has advised Jewish students not to enroll at the University of California's Irvine campus "until tangible changes are made" to combat growing anti-Semitism. The Newport Beach and Costa Mesa Daily Pilot reported that a community task force stated, "The acts of anti-Semitism are real and well documented. Hate speech has been unrelenting. There is no indication that the university is at all concerned about the disconnect between campus values and the values of the greater society."

The State Department issued a report two months ago that the university does not discriminate against Jews, but the task force's report, based on interviews with faculty, students and local residents, asserts that "Jewish students have been harassed" and that faculty members cannot speak out against anti-Israel speakers because of the pressure to be "politically correct."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: campus; irvine; jews; report

1 posted on 02/15/2008 9:58:09 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

ROP . . .

http://octaskforce.wordpress.com/2008/02/13/oc-task-force-investigation-finds-anti-semitism-at-university-of-california-irvine-and-reviews-findings-of-doe%E2%80%99s-office-for-civil-rights/

can download the report at the link above as well.

Witness step one of sharia law in the USA. Or do the footbaths at schools and train stations in Michigan count as step one?


2 posted on 02/15/2008 10:03:20 AM PST by Greg F (The RNC doesn't pick the winning candidate. The RNC sucks up to the winning candidate.)
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To: Nachum
Bad idea. When Jews retreat, their enemies are emboldened and become even more drunk with arrogance.

The message is: "We harassed the Jews enough at Irvine to drive them out. Let's try UCSB next!"

3 posted on 02/15/2008 10:04:51 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Nachum

Ah, the warm embrace of “PC tolerance.” Funny how the right get accused of intolerance when the left actively practices it.


4 posted on 02/15/2008 10:06:43 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: wideawake

Would you send your kid there?


5 posted on 02/15/2008 10:07:15 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

The advice will fall on deaf ears. Look at Columbia. Jewish parents are still tripping over each other by the thousands to get the privilege of forking over a couple hundred thousand bucks so their little darlings can spend 4 years there. Never ceases to amaze me.


6 posted on 02/15/2008 10:08:13 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Greg F

If the muslims get footbaths, can Christians have baptismal fonts in public places? How about a niche for Catholics? Oh, right, such accomodations are only available for one particualr group...


7 posted on 02/15/2008 10:08:56 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Nachum
The State Department issued a report two months ago that the university does not discriminate against Jews,

Dr. Rice apparently continues her support of antiSemites
and terrorists against all Jews, worldwide.

8 posted on 02/15/2008 10:12:59 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Nachum; Dark Wing; Dog Gone; Shermy; Gophack; Ernest_at_the_Beach

If true, this looks like a great federal civil rights case with major league headline potential. UC is subject to the Safe Schools Act.


9 posted on 02/15/2008 10:13:52 AM PST by Thud
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To: Nachum

So, in other words, it’s a ‘no-go’ area. Holy creeping Sharia...


10 posted on 02/15/2008 10:15:39 AM PST by BigFinn (Islam= a caustic blend of paganism and twisted Bible stories resulting in death and mayhem.)
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To: Diogenesis

Dr. Rice seems to be a Jew hater in the mold of James Baker. The slime at foggy bottom taught her well.


11 posted on 02/15/2008 10:15:59 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Is this America?


12 posted on 02/15/2008 10:16:13 AM PST by isrul
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To: Nachum

Note how the more liberal a campus is, the more intolerant it becomes.


13 posted on 02/15/2008 10:17:13 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Irvine is one of the most right cities in the country. A huge GOP strong hold. It is also one of the chosen locations for Arab Americans to live in the USA. It has a growing Muslim population.


14 posted on 02/15/2008 10:18:28 AM PST by Nachum
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To: wideawake
Authorities should come down hard on this stuff. If the locals on’t do it, the Feds must. Root the anti Semites out. I’m sure it’s known who they are.
15 posted on 02/15/2008 10:18:48 AM PST by isrul
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To: Nachum

Are you serious? I did not know this. Actual acts of anti-semitism, or just anti-Israel sentiment as on most university campuses??


16 posted on 02/15/2008 10:19:09 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Nachum
Would you send your kid there?

Anywhere I send my children, unless I send them to a specialized religious college, they will be in an environment hostile to their religion and their morals.

I went to the relatively conservative University of Chicago in the 90s, and Catholicism as well as Judaism were constantly under attack even in that environment.

I was threatened with assault more than once because of my religious beliefs and I'll bet that if it weren't for my physical stature I would actually have been assaulted.

17 posted on 02/15/2008 10:19:13 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Greg F

Where is the Hillel chapter? We need to get some OC Jewish organizations ON this as well. I will be forwarding this article in your link around to people I know. This cannot stand.


18 posted on 02/15/2008 10:22:13 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Nachum

The Dems must be so proud.


19 posted on 02/15/2008 10:25:14 AM PST by Hans
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To: Yaelle
The Muslim Student Union: Where “Community,” “Prayer,” and Jew-Hatred Come Together
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/news/131/the-muslim-student-union-where-community-prayer-and-jew-hatred-come-together/

The spiteful resurgence of anti-Semitism
http://www.johannhari.com/archive/article.php?id=953

20 posted on 02/15/2008 10:26:02 AM PST by Nachum
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To: wideawake
Anywhere I send my children, unless I send them to a specialized religious college, they will be in an environment hostile to their religion and their morals.

And yet, some places are worse than others. Some are a lot worse.

21 posted on 02/15/2008 10:27:06 AM PST by Nachum
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To: wideawake
I was threatened with assault more than once because of my religious beliefs

I was threatened with assault there back in the '70s, but it wasn't because of my religious belief. It was because of the color of my skin. And no, my skin isn't black or brown.

22 posted on 02/15/2008 10:27:44 AM PST by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: Yaelle
Don't know about "acts" but - UCI Muslim student union video
23 posted on 02/15/2008 10:28:32 AM PST by ocr1
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To: Nachum

Ain’t that the truth!


24 posted on 02/15/2008 10:36:51 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (I want both the leftist Democrats and RINO McCainiacs to lose. A pox on both their houses!)
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To: Nachum
We are barely 60 years after the Holocaust and we have sh%t like this happening in the United States?

This, (and similar stuff at UCSF University of San Francisco) is simply outrageous.
We need to have people who haven’t been neutered, to stand up and put an end to this garbage.

What would the American soldiers who liberated the Nazi death camps, think of this happening here in the US?

They would be outraged.

25 posted on 02/15/2008 10:37:31 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: Yaelle

Why would Jews want to attend UCI anyway? Anteaters aren’t kosher!


26 posted on 02/15/2008 10:41:20 AM PST by doctor noe
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To: Nachum

The problem is also pretty prevalent at San Francisco State University (yes, in the heart of that bastion of enlightenment and tolerance). The pro-Arab, pro-Palestinian, anti-coalition student organizations are given the run of the place whit what appears to be full indemnification for any acts of aggression, intimidation and anti semitism. The only difference between them and al Qaeda is the choice of tactics, the ambitions and goals are the same. The left is in a twist on this. To paraphrase Orwell, they believe “white bad, brown good” and have to go through major logical contortions to explain it all away.


27 posted on 02/15/2008 10:44:43 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: HereInTheHeartland
What would the American soldiers who liberated the Nazi death camps, think of this happening here in the US?

They would be outraged.

I had the great privilege of knowing just such a soldier (OSS) and yes, he would be outraged, to say he least. I have Jewish relatives living in CA. Yikes!

28 posted on 02/15/2008 10:47:03 AM PST by Ace's Dad ("but every now and then, the Dragon comes to call")
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To: Army Air Corps

YES! Perfectly stated!


29 posted on 02/15/2008 10:54:47 AM PST by kickme (...at the window watching...waiting for my NUKalert to go off....)
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To: Nachum
I read the whole report. The major problems appear to come from the Muslim Student Union, the kinds of speakers it invites and (to some extent) biased faculty members.

The difficulty, for the Jewish students, is that the incidents complained of involve speech and speech-related activity and cannot realistically be suppressed without interfering with free speech. On the one hand, the report applauds the school administration's commitment to free speech, but at the same time wants the administration to crack down on "hate speech." This is exactly the sort of demand that leads to speech codes, which become primarily tools of the left.

The lamentable fact is that there are now lots of radical Muslims in this country. They say and do the things that radical Muslims say and do. They are disruptive, unassimilable and very dangerous. We made an awful mistake when we let them in our country, and I don't know what we're going to do about it. President Bush says we're "fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here," but the policy of open borders means that we get to fight them here regardless of what we do over there.

30 posted on 02/15/2008 10:58:29 AM PST by joe.fralick
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To: Diogenesis; Nachum; Yaelle; joe.fralick

It would be a good idea to do a little critical thinking and fact-checking before claiming links between alleged anti-Semitism on the part of Dr. Rice and anything in this article.

See link at post #2. The report mentioned in the article has nothing whatsoever to do with the US State Department (not surprising, since the State Department has no responsibility for monitoring US universities). It’s a report issued by the “Orange County Independent Task Force on Anti-Semitism at the University of California, Irvine”, a group which, per the report itself, was formed by the Hillel Foundation of Orange County. The US Department of State is not mentioned anywhere in the entire 34 page report.

If the State Department had any reason to issue a statement to the effect of “The State Department issued a report two months ago that the university does not discriminate against Jews”, it would have been in response to an inquiry from another nation’s government, and would only have transmitted the official position of the University. The State Department does not in any way, shape, or form issue opinions on the political or religious atmosphere of US institutions of higher education. Note that this IsraelNN.com piece offers no citation for its non-quoting description of what some “State Department” report said, and for that matter doesn’t even identify what “State Department” it’s talking about — could be the California State Department of Education, which would also only transmit information about the official policy of the University.


31 posted on 02/15/2008 11:11:02 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Fact checking?

Fact one: Dr. Rice is the first SOS to use the term "occupation" or "occupied territory" when referring to any land that Israel conquered in the 1967 war.

Fact two: Dr. Rice is the first SOS to refer to Israeli settlements around Jerusalem as "illegal".

She has, perhaps with this administrations blessing, adopted the language of the Arabs in their perpetual war on Israel. If you wish to call that political, that is your perogative, but considering her academic background, I have a different name for it. Her statements are eerily reminiscent to Bush Sr.'s comments on Israel's defenders when he said, "I'm only one guy up here". She's just a little more polite.

32 posted on 02/15/2008 12:10:31 PM PST by Nachum
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To: ocr1

The intro to the vid says it’s “sick, perverse stuff,” and I am not in the mood for it just now.

I keep seeing more veiled and hooded women in the OC; I hope we have a lot of interest in the huge mosque there. I hope we are keeping our eyes open.


33 posted on 02/15/2008 12:53:23 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: doctor noe

Anteaters are not kosher, but you can use them as bait to trap a moose or giraffe, both of which are perfectly kosher.


34 posted on 02/15/2008 12:55:20 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Nachum; Diogenesis

Perhaps she’s noted that using language which angers the Arabs who need to be negotiated with — the approach used by a long parade of Secretaries of State prior to Rice — has proved singularly ineffective, and thought that a different approach should be tried. At any rate, positions re land disputes are not de facto evidence of “anti-Semitism”, though obviously anti-Semitic sentiment underlies SOME people’s anti-Israel positions re the land disputes.

What bothered me here is that the article’s reference to the “State Department” is extremely misleading, as evidenced by Diogenesis’ post clearly showing he believed there was some connection between the Rice-headed State Department and the information in this article. I copied you because I imagined that you’d be concerned that readers of the article you posted were being led to patently false assumptions about the State Department having somehow defended UCI re complaints of its tacit encouragement of widespread anti-Semitic activity on the campus.

When people believe misinformation such as this, and then unwittingly repeat it in the course of their efforts to address a political issue, they lose credibility for both themselves and their cause, when their opponents can easily and quickly show that they are including false claims in their arguments.


35 posted on 02/15/2008 1:28:25 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Perhaps she’s noted that using language which angers the Arabs who need to be negotiated with

So she adopts the terminology of Israel's enemies to avoid angering them? She has redefined the discussion by giving the propaganda legitimacy. This is a foreign policy failure for the position that the US has held since 1967.

What bothered me here is that the article’s reference to the “State Department” is extremely misleading, as evidenced by Diogenesis’

Not at all. She is the figurehead of the State Dept. It and her language is quite clear. The administration, and by proxy its directives to its state dept. have done nothing about an ongoing documented problem with the Muslim associations on a number of campuses in the states. Most notably at the University of San Francisco and UC Irvine. People have been threatened with their lives, speakers forced to leave by police escort, vandalism of Jewish centers, and verbal attacks on those who are openly Jewish.

There is no misinformation here. The Muslims on these campuses sense a reluctance by our federal government, by state university governance, or even by local law enforcement to respond to an obvious problem. Instead, there has been a modification of our language in the hope that unreasonable violent people will somehow make a deal. If you wish to say the emperor has no clothes, go right ahead, but don't expect others to follow.

36 posted on 02/15/2008 3:01:48 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

You are missing the point. There was ZERO involvement in, or comment on the matters discussed in the article by any representative of the US Department of State, yet the article is written so as to imply otherwise (perhaps inadvertently), and is being misinterpreted by readers here as reporting that the US Department of State did have some involvement and comment.


37 posted on 02/15/2008 6:59:58 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: milford421

PING.


38 posted on 02/15/2008 9:49:30 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1886546/posts?page=4972#4972 45 Item Communist Manifesto)
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