Skip to comments.straight Talk about McCain and the Hard Right
Posted on 02/15/2008 9:59:22 AM PST by meandog
With Tsunami Tuesday now history, where do things stand in the Republican nomination race?
At this point we cant know the winner absolutely but far more than in the Democratic race we can see clearly the shape of things to come. The Republican nominee is going to be John McCain.
I cant vote for him. Hes just so, you know,liberal.
Liberal? In this party?
James Dobson cant stand him. Sean Hannity wants Romney. Huckabee is solid. Strict libertarian Reason mag has run an article headlined: "Be afraid of President McCain: The frightening mind of an authoritarian maverick." Ann Coulter says if McCain wins the nomination shell campaign for Hillary. Rush
How odd that, far less than it accepts Reagan disciple McCain, the hard right accepts the conservatism of Romney, who came to many of his most adamant positions along about yesterday. Its impossible to know Romneys true principles and convictions on any major issue. On health care and judicial appointments, his records as governor of Massachusetts waft somewhere between marginal and dubious.
And Huckabee, though frequently sound, holds statist positions to match the ones the ideologues think they perceive in McCain. Moreover, Huckabee clearly is a regional candidate who has carried not a single Republican primary (his Iowa win was in caucuses) outside the South.
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Yeah the Huckster is a “SOLID” socialist who uses HUMANISM disguised as “religion” as his weapon.
Guess what Hick?
I didn’t vote for you and I won’t be with you in hell.
I am so tired of compromised out people vilifying those that have PRINCIPLES and stnd on them. It’s not just a leftist tactic ... as you can see.
McCain did just that.
McCain is nothing but a Judas Goat to the Republican Party.
What all of us have to decide is whether we love our country more than we hate McCain. I really, really dislike him, both for his backstabbing politics and his cozying up to Dems (and, of them, generally the most liberal).
The next occupant of the Oval Office will either be him or Hillary or Obama. IMHO, as bad as he is likely to be, either of the other 2 will be an utter disaster.
I’m not buying either the “staying home/voting 3rd Party will send a message” or the “he’ll be just as bad as them” or the “we’ll win back the Congress in 2010 and the WH in 2012 because the Dem will be so bad” arguments. I foolishly bought into them in 1992, and look what we got-the Clintons, both of them, and not just for 4 years or even 8, but for the last 16 and quite possibly for 8 more.
I can’t sit by and allow that to happen - not again. It is one thing to dislike McCain, to prefer anyone (or almost anyone) to him...but it is quite another to be suffering from a bad case of MDS. Come on, we’re better than the kooks on the Left - AREN’T WE?
You mean better than the perrenially courted and never delivered to black caucus?
Like Judas was Jesus' disciple.
Digital Sniper: “No “Reagan disciple” opposes tax cuts.”
According to McCain, he now claims he opposed the tax cuts because they weren’t combined with reductions in spending. Back when he initially opposed the tax cuts, he made statements to the effect that the cuts favored the rich. I could possibly support the former but not the latter. I don’t believe in class warfare.
As far as reductions in spending go, is there any evidence, other than resistance to earmarks, that McCain is a fiscal conservative? For example, he did oppose the prescription drug benefit. Do you know of any other way he’s tried to cut spending?
What is the “hard right,” the only Republicans that still have testosterone? I don’t know, but as a (quote) conservative (unquote), to quote McCain, I can say without hesitation that more insults added onto the insults he has already thrown our way won’t embarrass me into voting for him. They will energize me to work against him, even though I’m inclined to let him lose in peace.
Don't count on it. Besides, with a Dem President, you have every judge and Justice picked by a hard, hard Leftie ideolog, control of the military and of foreign policy in the hands of the same, higher taxes, socialized medicine, etc. Oh, and if you think that he'll push for amnesty, then you also have to believe that they will.
McCain can't be worse. He'll likely not be good about 90% of the time, but he can't be worse. I'd rather have someone who is correct at least some of the time than none of the time. A lot depends on his Veep choice. If he screws it up with another amnesty-lover or other liberal RINO, or Condi, then it is all over.
I don’t think the pinch-your-nose-and-vote strategy is a very good one. Our country was founded on principles and ever since then, power hungry people have slowly been eroding those principles. This country truly needs an over haul. McCain is not the man for the job. Obama is not. Hillary.....lol....yeah, ‘nough said. Nothing short of an over haul will fix this country. Voting for McCain might slow the destructive process by a little bit, but in the end, its all the same unless the American people get their heads’ out of their a$$es, grow some balls and realize that having Big Brother watching you isn’t such a great idea.
So, we can vote for McCain so Hitlery or Obama don’t get it, but is it really going to change anything? If America wants it, she doesn’t have to settle for the lesser of the evils.
But unlike McCain they carry the Democrat label which will take the hit for any disasters. If Hillary is their nominee we should send money to McCain to put up a fight. If it's Obama, McCain is on his own. The leftists believe the world will be one big happy place if the USA refuses to meet aggression with aggression. Let them test their hypothesis. It's the only way to prove them wrong and move on.
What other choice is there this November. Stay home? If you do, you don't have a right to complain about anything. Vote 3rd Party? You might as well piss into a tornado - no one is listening.
Unfortunately...under these circumstances, the most patriotic choice , for America, is to go pull the McCain lever.....and then spend a LOT of free time holding his and the Pubbies nose to the wall. The amnesty bill defeat showed we CAN do that.
If you ask me, it is more responsible to try to avoid such disasters in the first place, instead of looking for someone or some party on which to pin the blame. This is particularly true of foreign/defense policy. At least McCain knows that we're in a war, and he's not afraid to kill terrorists. I don't want to see a mushroom cloud over 1 or 5 or 10 of our cities and be able to say, "See, its all the fault of the Dems!"
You forget that "Maverick" McCain doesn't give a crap what we think. We could try to reign him in all we want, and he'll just do what he wants anyway. After all, in the RINO line of reasoning, "who else ya gonna vote for, plebian?"
I think that I’ve read hundreds of your posts over the years (I lurked long before signing up) and I think that this is the first time that I’ve ever disagreed.
I admit that none of our options are good, but I don’t think that voting for the worst (so called) Republican is going to net us much more than the worst Dems.
Would you marry a woman who cheated on you constantly just because she promised that be ‘better’ if you marry her? Better doesn’t mean good.
I’d rather fight the known enemy than go along with a supposed friend with a history as bad as McCain’s.
Voting is my right and I’ll excercise it, but I won’t vote for somebody that will backstab me. I’ll have no right to complain after that. I would vote 3rd party out of principle. So what if no one listens. At least I voted my conscience.