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Blast near Mexico City police HQ
BBC ^ | Feb 15, 2008 | BBC

Posted on 02/15/2008 5:01:49 PM PST by Islander7

An explosion has rocked the centre of Mexico City, killing at least one man and injuring two other people.

The device was set off near the city's police headquarters, Mexico City police chief Joel Ortega said. No group has so far said it carried out the attack.

Investigators believe the bomb was activated remotely by a mobile phone.

The dead man's hand was blown off, the police chief said. It is unclear whether he was responsible for the bomb or if he simply picked up the package.

The blast occurred at about 1430 (2030 GMT) near the tourist area known as the Zona Rosa (Pink Zone).

The scene was cordoned off by hundreds of police officers in riot gear as police helicopters hovered overhead.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Mexico
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; bomb; drugs; explosion; mexico; mexicocity; mughniyah; openborders; tancredo; terror; wod; wodlist
Mexico's government has been locked in a violent battle with drug gangs since last month.
1 posted on 02/15/2008 5:01:50 PM PST by Islander7
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To: Islander7

http://www.globalincidentmap.com/eventdetail.php?ID=7176


2 posted on 02/15/2008 5:04:15 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Islander7

Great! Next they will have suicide bombers!

What a country!


3 posted on 02/15/2008 5:04:42 PM PST by ScratInTheHat (Don't like my immigration stance? I'm dyslexic. PC keeps sounding like BS to me!)
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To: Islander7

“Investigators believe the bomb was activated remotely by a mobile phone”

Maybe remote detonation by mobile phone is a widely-understood technology nowadays. Or maybe not? Maybe this type of attack suggests cooperation between the border drug gangs and AQ? We keep hearing rumors that the drug gangs on the border are helping AQ infiltrators into the US - maybe this is the pay back?


4 posted on 02/15/2008 5:09:38 PM PST by happyathome
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To: happyathome

someone accidently sent him a text msg prematurely


5 posted on 02/15/2008 5:11:50 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Islander7

No sympathy from me.


6 posted on 02/15/2008 5:12:49 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: wastedyears
No sympathy from me.

Amazing. You don't even know if the victims are Mexican or visiting tourists who might even be your friends.

The mere fact that it happened in Mexico means that you automatically have no sympathy.

Pathetic.

7 posted on 02/15/2008 5:17:28 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Islander7

Police believed it was a suicide bomber, but later determined that a man had simply eaten too many refried beans.


8 posted on 02/15/2008 5:29:29 PM PST by July 4th
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To: July 4th

Is that supposed to be funny? Have you finished the fourth grade yet?


9 posted on 02/15/2008 5:34:24 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Islander7

10 posted on 02/15/2008 5:42:28 PM PST by csvset
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To: Islander7

Now reporting 2 bombs. They went off in a tourist area.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aJx4F4deFn2o&refer=latin_america


11 posted on 02/15/2008 5:46:58 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Cindy

FYI Bumpity Bump !


12 posted on 02/15/2008 5:49:10 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Dog Gone; wastedyears; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; ...
Re: The mere fact that it happened in Mexico means that you automatically have no sympathy.

Well, wastedyears may be a might hasty, but you must admit that Mexico, the President of and some 12 to 20 million of its folk being illegally in this country while demanding they be given American Citizenship and the right to vote post haste and scot-free, it does give one somewhat justifiable leave to be less than teary eyed at this event.

That said, you do have a point. However... reading your FR Homepage, I think it is a real shame you abandoned the cute cheerleader outfit.

13 posted on 02/15/2008 6:05:21 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

I seriously had to give up the cheerleading outfit. It was not my ticket to success.

I don’t like it when I hear that Chinese mineworkers have been killed in a mine accident. I don’t like it when innocent Mexicans are killed for no good reason.

These people were not illegal aliens. I doubt they were Mexican politicians who tacitly approve of it.

I don’t even know if they were Mexican.

It’s way too easy to rejoice in the deaths of citizens of countries we are at odds with over something their citizens have little control over.

I won’t do it, and I wish nobody else would, either.


14 posted on 02/15/2008 6:34:30 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Islander7

the last month? Try years and years!

Intensified the last year or so since the last election.

Fueled by the insatiable desire for drugs in the US.


15 posted on 02/15/2008 6:48:01 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Straight Vermonter; Islander7
Now reporting 2 bombs. They went off in a tourist area.

Two bombs activated by mobile phones placed in a tourist area. Were it not for the low casualties and likely political/criminal motive, this attack would cry al-Qaeda.
16 posted on 02/15/2008 7:01:17 PM PST by Das Outsider ("Fools are paramount in politics..."--Kenneth Minogue)
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To: Dog Gone

Thank you. That needed to be said.


17 posted on 02/15/2008 8:31:00 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Islander7

Shudder. I hava a place I go often five blocks from there. Monday’s so not going to be nice.


18 posted on 02/15/2008 9:23:07 PM PST by Codename - Ron Benjamin (Pre-emptive, multi-tasking, interrupt control)
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To: Dog Gone

Very well stated. Thank you.


19 posted on 02/15/2008 9:42:16 PM PST by msmagoo54
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To: Islander7
Zetas?
20 posted on 02/15/2008 10:08:22 PM PST by Reaganite1984
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To: Islander7

This is an entry from Guns in American Society: An Encyclopedia of History, Politics, Culture, and the Law.

Mexico

By David B. Kopel

The Mexican Constitution guarantees the right of Mexicans to possess arms. Even so, gun control laws in Mexico are very strict, and police discretion in enforcement makes possession of firearms of greater than .22 very difficult.

The Cinco de Mayo celebration, commemorating Mexico’s 1867 victory against French colonialists enjoys a little-known tie to American firearms. Before the French Emperor Napoleon III overthrew the Mexican government in 1863, Benito Juárez had been serving as President of Mexico. When the French occupied Mexico City, he set up a resistance movement in northern Mexico. There, he ordered 1,000 Winchester Model 1866 carbines in .44 caliber, to be delivered to Monterrey, along with 500 cartridges per gun. The Juárez forces paid $57,000 in silver coin. “R.M.” - for “Republic of Mexico” - was inscribed on the frames of the carbines. Today, “Juarez Winchesters” are very valuable collectors items.

In Death by Government (Transaction, 1994), R.J. Rummel estimates that between 1900 and 1920, various Mexican governments killed over 1.4 million people, through slave labor, executions, and other means, not including the hundreds of thousands more who died at the hands of rebels or from other war-related causes.

A new constitution, adopted in 1917, at last recognized a right to arms. Article 10 of the Mexican Constitution, as amended, states:

“The inhabitants of the United Mexican States have the right to possess arms in their homes for their security and legitimate defense with the exception of those prohibited by federal law and of those reserved for the exclusive use of the Army, Navy, Air Force, and National Guard. Federal law shall determine the cases, conditions and place in which the inhabitants may be authorized to bear arms.”

In the middle of the twentieth century, firearms laws and their enforcement had become liberal enough so that Mexico was a popular hunting destination for Americans, and Mexican hunters could invent a new shooting sport. “Silhouette shooting” - shooting at metal silhouette targets in the shape of game animals -originated in Mexico in the early 1950s. Mexican hunters were looking for ways to sharpen their eyes between hunting seasons, and so began shooting at live animals who had been placed on a high ridgeline, visible in silhouette from hundreds of yards away. Whoever shot the animal would win a prize. American hunters near the Mexican border - most notably the Tuscon Rifle Club — adopted the sport, but used life-sized metal targets instead - hence the sport’s name of “Siluetas Metalicas.”

The sport originally used high-power rifles to shoot at metal silhouettes of wild chickens, javelinas, turkeys, sheep, and other game. In the 1970s, the National Rifle Association put silhouette shooting into its competition schedule, and created separate classes for smallbore rifle (.22), air rifles, and both smallbore and centerfire handguns. This allowed the competitions to take place on much smaller ranges than the 500 meter ranges which had been standard for the high-power event. Since then, the sport has spread worldwide, and many competitive shooters specialize in silhouette competition. “Siluetas Metalicas” remains the proper name for silhouette shooting with high-power rifles (6mm and up).

In Mexico as in the United States, civil unrest in 1968 led to important new restrictions on firearms. Before then, many types of rifles and handguns were freely available. Anti-government student movements, however, scared the government into closing firearms stores, and registering all weapons. Compliance with the registration has been very low.

Today, notwithstanding the constitutional right, arms possession in Mexico is severely restricted by a wide network of laws. Article 160 of the Federal Penal Code authorizes government employees to carry guns. Article 161 requires a license to carry or sell handguns. Article 162 provides penalties for violations, and also bans the stockpiling of arms without permission. Article 163 states that handguns may only be sold by mercantile establishments, not by individuals. Further, handgun carry permit applicants must post a bond, must prove their need, and must supply five character references.

The most important gun laws are contained in the Federal Law of Firearms and Explosives. It establishes a Federal Arms Registry controlled by the Ministry of National Defense. Both the federal and state governments are required to conduct public information campaigns to discourage all forms of weapons ownership and carrying. Only sports-related advertising of firearms is permitted.

Title Two of the Federal Law of Firearms allows possession and carrying of handguns in a calibers of .380 or less, although some calibers are excluded, most notably .357 magnum and 9mm parabellum.

Members of agricultural collectives and other rural workers are allowed to carry the aforesaid handguns, .22 rifles, and shotguns, as long as they stay outside of urban areas, and obtain a license.

Hunters and target shooters may obtain licenses for the above types of firearms, as well as higher-powered rifles. There are a variety of exceptions for particular guns, detailed in the Library of Congress volume cited at the end of this entry. Gun collecting is allowed, with a license and registration. Possession of firearms for home defense is legally permitted. All guns must be registered with the Ministry of National Defense within 30 days of acquisition. Licensees may only buy ammunition for the caliber of gun for which they are licensed.

In practice, possession of firearms above .22 caliber is severely restricted. As with much of the rest of Mexican law enforcement, corruption is a major element of the gun licensing system.

Because government permits are difficult to obtain, there is a thriving market in smuggled handguns from the United States. One effort to control smuggling was Operation Forward Trace, conducted in the 1990s by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. BATF agents examined federal gun registration documents (Form 4473) held on file at gun stores in southwestern states, and recorded the names and addresses of buyers - especially those with Hispanic names - who had purchased self-loading rifles or inexpensive handguns. BATF then contacted the purchasers, and demanded to know where the guns were.

In July 2001, U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft and Mexican Attorney General Rafael Macedo de la Concha announced a cooperative law enforcement program, aimed partly at weapons smuggling. Mexican police would provide computerized information about seized firearms to the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) so that BATF can trace the guns. for criminal investigation. Ashcroft also assigned US prosecutors in districts bordering Mexico to serve as contacts on gun smuggling cases.

Even government agencies, frustrated with the Defense Ministry, sometimes smuggle in their own weapons from the U.S.

In August 1985, the army — using the pretext of a routine inspection — confiscated the weapons of the Juarez police. Many observers believed the confiscation took place because the city government was controlled by PAN, the leading opposition party. Guns confiscated by the police or the military often end up on the black market.

In 1994, Mexico had a total homicide rate of 17.6 per 100,000 population. Of these homicides, 9.9 were by firearm, and 7.7 by other means. Mexican law enforcement against violent crime is widely regarded as ineffectual and dishonest.

Temporary gun licenses for sporting purposes may be issued to tourists. Mexican law provides penalties of at least five to as many as 30 years in prison for tourists who attempt to bring a firearm, or even a single round of ammunition, into Mexico without prior permission. In the past, the law was enforced stringently, even in cases where the violation was accidental. In December 1998, however, the Mexican Congress enacted legislation relaxing the law for first-time, unintentional violations involving only a single gun. Now, first-timers will be fined $1,000, but not imprisoned. The exemption does not apply for military weapons or calibers - which by Mexican law means any handgun above .380 in caliber, as well as a wide variety of rifles.


21 posted on 02/15/2008 10:36:12 PM PST by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: Squantos

Yes, I saw that earlier.

Your tag line is looking good, Squantos.


22 posted on 02/16/2008 12:42:40 AM PST by Cindy
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To: ScratInTheHat

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you, courtesy of liberal idiots.


23 posted on 02/16/2008 8:58:08 AM PST by Just Lori (There is nothing democrat-"ic" about democrats.)
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To: Islander7; cspackler; ECM; STOCKHRSE; LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR; King_Corey; BeckB; Brucifer; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


24 posted on 02/16/2008 11:52:30 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Yankee go home!!


25 posted on 02/16/2008 1:44:07 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Dog Gone

Very well said. Thank you.


26 posted on 02/16/2008 11:18:39 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: ScratInTheHat
This guy was an unwilling suicide bomber. He meant to leave it near the station but, it went off early.

He was also wearing 2 sets of clothes possibly, to change his appearance during his getaway.

27 posted on 02/17/2008 6:24:07 AM PST by wolfcreek (Powers that be will lie like Clintons and spend like drunken McCains to push their Globalist agenda.)
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To: happyathome
"Maybe remote detonation by mobile phone is a widely-understood technology nowadays. Or maybe not? Maybe this type of attack suggests cooperation between the border drug gangs and AQ?"

And thanks to Democrat, our hands are kinda tied as far as listening in on cell phone conversations ATM.

28 posted on 02/17/2008 7:13:36 AM PST by cake_crumb (American Conservative Union prez endorsed ROMNEY over McCain. 'Nuff said.)
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To: Bender2
"Well, wastedyears may be a might hasty, but you must admit that Mexico, the President of and some 12 to 20 million of its folk being illegally in this country while demanding they be given American Citizenship and the right to vote post haste and scot-free, it does give one somewhat justifiable leave to be less than teary eyed at this event."

Why THANK YOU for advocating terrorism and attempting to justify it in part by blaming the only man on the planet who's had the gonads to declare war on inspite of it being "unpopular". And THANK YOU for doing it on FR, where thousands of lurkers a day, many of them reporters and Democrat aids can read it and use it against us.

Normal people don't advocate the murder of innocent people. You may need professional help.

29 posted on 02/17/2008 7:27:14 AM PST by cake_crumb (American Conservative Union prez endorsed ROMNEY over McCain. 'Nuff said.)
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To: Islander7
Yet another reason why the border between our nation and Mexico's must be sealed immediately.
30 posted on 02/17/2008 7:59:55 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: wolfcreek
This guy was an unwilling suicide bomber. He meant to leave it near the station but, it went off early. He was also wearing 2 sets of clothes possibly, to change his appearance during his getaway.

Another Darwin award winner!

31 posted on 02/17/2008 8:32:37 AM PST by ScratInTheHat (Don't like my immigration stance? I'm dyslexic. PC keeps sounding like BS to me!)
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To: cake_crumb
Why THANK YOU for advocating terrorism and attempting to justify it in part by blaming the only man on the planet who's had the gonads to declare war on inspite of it being "unpopular". And THANK YOU for doing it on FR, where thousands of lurkers a day, many of them reporters and Democrat aids can read it and use it against us.

I don't think that "less than teary eyed" is promoting anything. Especially in a country that makes no bones about HATING the US. If I remember correctly booing Miss USA is only one of many such examples of Mexican hate for Americans.

Let's not smoke the PC crack pipe here OK! As far as the libs getting info here. Your breaking my heart really.

32 posted on 02/17/2008 8:44:08 AM PST by ScratInTheHat (Don't like my immigration stance? I'm dyslexic. PC keeps sounding like BS to me!)
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To: cake_crumb; ScratInTheHat; ontap
Re: Normal people don't advocate the murder of innocent people. You may need professional help.

Crumb, old sport, nowhere did I "...advocate the murder of innocent people..." and I suggest you get professional help to learn to comprehend what you read before making such misinformed comments so that "...thousands of lurkers a day, many of them reporters and Democrat aids..." will tell others of ignorant idiots' palaver such as you've shown herewith.

Since you apparent cannot, I shall make this my last time to even acknowledge any more of your posts. I've reached the age where I do not have to suffer fools nor waste my time replying on the fantasy they imagine and then miscommunicate upon.

ScratInTheHat, thanks for your defense, but let us leave crumb to his selfdelousions. He has proven without a doubt his inability to know anus from anthill.

Yes sir, ontap, found another one. You own me a dime!

33 posted on 02/17/2008 10:59:49 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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