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McCain-Soros: A false trail
Frontpage Magazine ^ | 2/15/2008 | David Horowitz

Posted on 02/15/2008 5:44:40 PM PST by SeekAndFind

McCain-Soros: A false trail

The Internet and cable TV have been rife with allegations that George Soros funds John McCain. One of the sources for this claim is a book I co-authored last year called The Shadow Party: How George Soros, Hillary Clinton and Sixties Radicals Seized Control of the Democratic Party.

What we reported was that Soros made a contribution to McCain's political organization when McCain was devising the McCain-Feingold bill. If you oppose that bill as I did and do, that's the end of the story.

Soros is an anti-American radical, who thinks George Bush is responsible for the war on terror and that Israel is the aggressor and genocidal armies like Hamas the victims. On these critical issues of our time, John McCain has absolutely nothing in common with George Soros. For Soros "American supremacy" is the greatest threat for world peace. For McCain, American military supremacy is the greatest guarantor of world peace. That's quite a difference.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arizona; cfr; davidhorowitz; donors; endofstory; falsetrail; horowitz; johnmccain; mccain; reforminstitute; senatorjohnmccain; senatormccain; shadowparty; soros; waronterror
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Here's an ensuing comment below the above article (on the same web page ) :

Soros made a contribution to McCain's political organization when McCain was devising the McCain-Feingold bill. If you oppose that bill as I did and do, that's the end of the story"

No, it is not the end of the story. It does not matter if McCain actually took Soros money or not, he DID the work of Soros. He helped empower the billionaire and others like him at the expense of those he was supposed to be protecting.

The fact that McCain and Soros are IDENTICAL when it comes to other people's free speech IS STILL IMPORTANT. Even though you don't mind one bit, because it increased your power, also, didn't it?

You don't mind sacrificing my rights to McCain and Soros, it didn't cost you anything, and in fact, as a member of the "press" you can express your opinion right up to the election, for what it is worth.

We can trust McCain to take it to the Jihadists.....once he brings them home and tries them in front of the OJ jury? Making sure that they are never uncomfortable for one second? Comparing our soldiers who guard them with the sadistic communists who held him captive the whole time?

I feel so much safer.

1 posted on 02/15/2008 5:44:41 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Is McCain a Main Street Republican?


2 posted on 02/15/2008 5:46:27 PM PST by cripplecreek (Just call me M.O.M. (Maverick Opposed to McCain.))
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To: SeekAndFind

Its a little late David.


3 posted on 02/15/2008 5:49:17 PM PST by dforest (Nothing left to say.)
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To: indylindy
Its a little late David.

Late for what ?
4 posted on 02/15/2008 5:50:46 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: cripplecreek

Yes. Main Street Republicans Partnership, he is a member.

http://www.republicanmainstreet.org/members.htm


5 posted on 02/15/2008 5:50:58 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: nicmarlo

Hmmmmmm?

Ping


6 posted on 02/15/2008 5:53:02 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the rest of the article. The other part you posted was a comment left by a reader.

“Soros is an anti-American radical, who thinks George Bush is responsible for the war on terror and that Israel is the aggressor and genocidal armies like Hamas the victims. On these critical issues of our time, John McCain has absolutely nothing in common with George Soros. For Soros “American supremacy” is the greatest threat for world peace. For McCain, American military supremacy is the greatest guarantor of world peace. That’s quite a difference.”


7 posted on 02/15/2008 5:54:23 PM PST by Perdogg (Vice President Richard B Cheney - A National Treasure)
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To: SeekAndFind
BS!!!
Soros has been openly hosting fund raisers for Osama Obama !
He and Moveon.org are a Obama 527.
Last night people were posting photos of one of the events.
Your post is pure nonsense .
McCain is alot of things but he not anti-US and anti-military !
Daniel Ortega and Fidel’s buddy Osama is a radical Marxist like flunky who won’t even wear an American flag pin !
8 posted on 02/15/2008 5:55:07 PM PST by ncalburt
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To: SeekAndFind

All well and good, as far as it goes. Nevertheless, it’s true that McCain did the work of George Soros and helped prepare the way for him and his organizations to play a controlling role in our elections.

And it’s also true that Soros recognized that, and contributed money in support of the McCain-Feingold Bill.

That’s all anyone has said that I’ve seen. And it’s true.

The RNC or McCain must be making it hot for David Horowitz, who did nothing but report the truth. So, McCain, lay off him. You brought this on YOURSELF by your own actions.


9 posted on 02/15/2008 5:58:03 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SeekAndFind
"The fact that McCain and Soros are IDENTICAL when it comes to other people's free speech [McCain-Feingold] IS STILL IMPORTANT."

You mean the legislation that Fred Thompson supported and Bush signed? Yeah well, a lot of Republicans made a big mistake -- they were all "indentical" to Soros on the issue of CFR.

10 posted on 02/15/2008 5:59:13 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Halgr; calcowgirl; Eva

you two will be interested in this, lol.


11 posted on 02/15/2008 6:01:01 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Mr. Mojo
The Republicans who voted for CFR probably ought to commit seppuku. They have destroyed their reputations forever.

Frankly, I'm not going to let the FEC bother me ~ and am willing to violate any or all of the elements of the CFR on behalf of any candidate at any time. You need a test case call me. Pukes like "W", McCain, etc. et al don't scare me. Their womenfolk know what they're really like.

12 posted on 02/15/2008 6:02:51 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind
I wonder if Horowitz ever uses Google.

Through The Weeds; John McCain, George Soros and the Reform Institute

Just use any combination of "John McCain, George Soros, think tank, funding, campaign finance" in the google search bar.

13 posted on 02/15/2008 6:03:14 PM PST by infidel29 (Santorum 2012..)
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To: SeekAndFind
I said so last night on the FR thread - dispiriting to see how many freepers swallowed the story hook, line and sinker.

Where have the independent thinkers gone?

Too many people follow the bell wether sheep and lately, it seems, FR's bell wether sheep runs off in the wrong direction....

THINK, before you swallow!

14 posted on 02/15/2008 6:07:09 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: ncalburt
"Soros has been openly hosting fund raisers for Osama Obama !"

So What? McCain has been carrying water for Soros as has Hillary and Obama. Do you really think Soros cares which one of the three wins? All of them are carrying out his agenda of open borders and the rest of the elite agenda to bring this country to its knees. All are "useful idiots" or true believers. Take your pick.

15 posted on 02/15/2008 6:10:27 PM PST by penowa
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To: muawiyah

Here is the roll call on McCain-Feingold. Zell Miller voted for it. I would have voted NO.

Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs -—60

Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Graham (D-FL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Miller (D-GA)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Thompson (R-TN)
Torricelli (D-NJ)
Warner (R-VA)
Wellstone (D-MN)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs -—40
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Campbell (R-CO)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeWine (R-OH)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Frist (R-TN)
Gramm (R-TX)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Helms (R-NC)
Hutchinson (R-AR)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-NE)
Nickles (R-OK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-NH)
Smith (R-OR)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thurmond (R-SC)
Voinovich (R-OH)


16 posted on 02/15/2008 6:11:41 PM PST by Perdogg (Vice President Richard B Cheney - A National Treasure)
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To: nicmarlo

Its always interesting to see who is spreading the latest propaganda/disinfo.....the trail of evidence leads to some pretty dark street corners.


17 posted on 02/15/2008 6:12:11 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: penowa

Big money often gives to both sides. In some cases the opposite sides aren’t that opposite.


18 posted on 02/15/2008 6:13:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (Just call me M.O.M. (Maverick Opposed to McCain.))
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To: Halgr

Yes, it does, doesn’t it?


19 posted on 02/15/2008 6:15:31 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: SeekAndFind; nicmarlo; Travis McGee

Whew! Only one contribution from George Soros! I feel so much better! NOT!

Now, Mr. Horowitz, could you explain those contributions from by the Tides Foundation? How about the Proteus Fund? What about Max Palevsky?

And what about the actual objectives of his Institute—used to manipulate public opinion to sell his pet issues and make them appear to have popular support (and make money for his pals at the same time)? Shamnesty, Open Primaries, Climate Change... etc.

And what about the people his institute places at the helm? Mr. Juan (open borders) Hernandez, Robert (uh-oh, my buddies got convicted) Kelly, or Cecilia (”Clean Elections” MALDEF) Martinez?

I love ya David, but you can’t put lipstick on this pig!


20 posted on 02/15/2008 6:16:30 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: maine-iac7
...dispiriting to see how many freepers swallowed the story hook, line and sinker.

Indeed, especially considering it was a Corsi/WND article. Quite irresponsible -- they didn't even wait for Debka, Newsmax, and the World Tribune to publish confirming stories! Pure desperation.

21 posted on 02/15/2008 6:19:17 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: calcowgirl
Well that's only one direct contribution. The main street partnership got Soros money too. It's one of the reasons I voted against my former congressrino.
22 posted on 02/15/2008 6:19:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (Just call me M.O.M. (Maverick Opposed to McCain.))
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To: calcowgirl

Well said, Cal....well said!


23 posted on 02/15/2008 6:21:22 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: All
http://web.archive.org/web/20060901004014/http://reforminstitute.org/about/donors.shtml
Reform Institute Donors 2001-2004 

(snip) 

Donations from $5,000 to $49,999

Mr. Herb Allison
Allison Family Foundation
Mr. Robert Batinovich
Mr. Stephen D. Daley
The David Geffen Foundation
Mr. Crawford Gordon
Mr. Max Palevsky
Mr. Greg Wendt

Donations above $50,000

Mr. William Bloomfield
Carnegie Corporation of New York
Chartwell Charitable Foundation
CSC Holdings, Inc.
Echosphere
The Educational Foundation of America
The JEHT Foundation
Mr. Jerome Kohlberg, Jr. Revocable Trust
McMullen Family Foundation
OSI Constitution & Legal Policy Program [i.e. GEORGE SOROS]
Proteus Fund
Mr. Charles H. Spaulding
Stuart Family Foundation
Tides Foundation

24 posted on 02/15/2008 6:21:30 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: maine-iac7
"dispiriting to see how many freepers swallowed the story hook, line and sinker."

Why wouldn't we "swallow" it? Look at what McCain has sponsored. He is carrying out the agenda of the elites, and unless you think you're one of them, you're going to end up like the rest of us - slaves overrun by uneducated masses from the 3rd world, paying taxes to the UN, and without any rights. Instead of "thinking independently," you might try doing some research on what McCain has been up to the past 8 yrs. or more. Then try to figure out WHY.

25 posted on 02/15/2008 6:24:09 PM PST by penowa
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To: Mr. Mojo; maine-iac7
...dispiriting to see how many freepers swallowed the story hook, line and sinker.

It appears you two are the ones doing the big GULP... just because you WANT to believe.

How about just looking at the old website and the actual donors. (See post #24)

That good enough for you, or will you keep your blinders on?

26 posted on 02/15/2008 6:26:11 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: ncalburt

Keep your eyes close and believe you are not being sold out.


27 posted on 02/15/2008 6:28:13 PM PST by bmwcyle (I am the watchman on the tower sounding the alarm.)
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To: cripplecreek; NormsRevenge
Well that's only one direct contribution. The main street partnership got Soros money too. It's one of the reasons I voted against my former congressrino.

Good point. The RMSP is destroying us from within.

28 posted on 02/15/2008 6:28:24 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: cripplecreek
"Big money often gives to both sides. In some cases the opposite sides aren’t that opposite."

Yes. If you want to bet every horse in the race, you will get a winner. Only in politics will that sort of bet pay off.

29 posted on 02/15/2008 6:28:39 PM PST by penowa
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To: calcowgirl

What we have here is a real fine display of why McCain is dangerous. Too many people are willing to let a little more principle erode every day just because McCain is the republican.


30 posted on 02/15/2008 6:29:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (Just call me M.O.M. (Maverick Opposed to McCain.))
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To: Mr. Mojo

Are you too lazy to go back and look at the 8+ yrs. of articles that have nothing to do with WND or Corsi? Just curious.


31 posted on 02/15/2008 6:33:20 PM PST by penowa
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To: nicmarlo

Thanks—and thanks for the ping.

Anyone who wants to see gory details of McCain’s “Reform Institute” really should sift through that last thread.
And that only touches the surface, IMO.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1968902/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=reforminstitute


32 posted on 02/15/2008 6:33:34 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: bmwcyle
Oh please, give the McCain bashing a rest .
I do not want another 2006 election fiasco.
Mitt has thrown his delegate to McCain so its OVER .
WE have a truly radicalized Dem party trying to drag this country into a socialist hell hole.
Soros money is being piled a mile high into Obama radical hands for a reason. Enough .
33 posted on 02/15/2008 6:51:29 PM PST by ncalburt
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To: SeekAndFind
DISCOVERTHENETWORK.ORG

Thursday, March 10, 2005

John McCain Gets Soros Cash

Senator John McCain's Reform Institute has suffered some bad press recently due to its involvement in an influence-peddling scandal with Cablevision. As usual, however, mainstream media have failed to go to the root of the matter.

Founded on June 26, 2001, McCain's Reform Institute for Campaign and Election Issues has long served as a nerve center for the so-called "campaign finance reform" movement – a movement which has done nothing to clean up campaign finance, but has done a great deal to empower federal judges and government bureaucrats to regulate political speech, in defiance of the Bill of Rights.

Now here's the kicker. The list of donors published on the Reform Institute's Web site reads like a veritable Who's Who of radical, leftwing foundations, including the Tides Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the Proteus Fund and George Soros' Open Society Institute (hat tip, Winfield Myers).

Not surprisingly, in view of the above associations, Arianna Huffington serves on the Reform Institute's Advisory Board. Huffington has long acted as a front for George Soros' "campaign finance reform" efforts. In 2000, she organized the so-called Shadow Conventions which provided John McCain with a bully pulpit to stump for his now-infamous McCain-Feingold Act. George Soros shouldered about one third of the cost of the Shadow Conventions.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1343541/posts

New Website--The Left Unveiled!
FrontPage Magazine ^ | 2-15-05 | FrontPage Magazine

Posted on 02/15/2005 5:50:51 AM PST by SJackson

DISCOVERTHENETWORK.ORG is David Horowitz's newest website, dedicated to exposing the interconnected web of left-wing activists, organizations, journalists, and financiers that wage political warfare against the United States and her founding ideals. ...


34 posted on 02/15/2008 7:04:42 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: cripplecreek
It appears to me that there was only one man with courage, honesty and dedication running for president, Fred Thompson, and he lost all of his support before the first round. I don’t trust Hillary or Obama and although McCain is a RINO, I don’t trust him either. This is going to be a bad year.
35 posted on 02/15/2008 7:06:31 PM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Perdogg

Helms and Thurmond still in the Senate: the last great year of that waning institution!


36 posted on 02/15/2008 7:35:55 PM PST by JSDude1 (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56306 "MoveON McCain" To find McCain's Sorros)
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To: SeekAndFind

Soooooo... Soros, an avowed socialist and enemy of everything America stands for, gave McCain money... which McCain kept. The result was CFR, which damaged our rights to free speech and put Soros-controlled political groups in charge of the purse strings of the democrat party.

How is this a false trail? It’s the same thing Clinton did... accepting money from an enemy of the US, in the name of political ambition.


37 posted on 02/15/2008 7:44:56 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: calcowgirl
The Shadow Party

“I had no idea what we conservatives were truly up against until I read The Shadow Party, and I have recommended this book to every activist and politician I know. The more we know about the Shadow Party, the easier it will be to replicate it and beat them at their own game.”

Tom DeLay
Former House Majority Leader


38 posted on 02/15/2008 7:45:55 PM PST by Alexander Nevsky
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To: ncalburt
"Soros money is being piled a mile high into Obama radical hands for a reason."

Yes, Obama is Soros et.al. first choice over your boy, McCain, who is only there as Soros back-up in case Obama fails to get it done.

"Oh please, give the McCain bashing a rest."

Interesting of you to join 2 wks. ago just to tell us to lay off McCain and the Soros connection since you seem to manage to tie Obama to him in at least every other post you make.

39 posted on 02/15/2008 7:58:07 PM PST by penowa
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To: JSDude1

That was before Hagel turned into smagel.


40 posted on 02/15/2008 7:59:13 PM PST by Perdogg (Vice President Richard B Cheney - A National Treasure)
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To: cripplecreek
Is McCain a Main Street Republican?

What is a Main Street Republican?

Are we supposed to have a secret handshake or something?

41 posted on 02/15/2008 8:02:05 PM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: ANGGAPO

I liked Hunter but was learning to accept Thompson and even gave money to both men.

As it Is I’ll probably write Hunter in.


42 posted on 02/15/2008 8:06:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (Just call me M.O.M. (Maverick Opposed to McCain.))
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To: SeekAndFind

So even though the man who wrote the story doesn’t believe that McCain is in Soro’s pocket, you still don’t want to let go of your distrust.


43 posted on 02/15/2008 8:17:54 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Ditto

The enemy, within. Another Soros funded project.

http://michellemalkin.com/2005/11/28/exposing-the-main-street-republicans/


44 posted on 02/15/2008 8:33:30 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: ncalburt

Uh-oh, McCainbot noob alert!


45 posted on 02/15/2008 9:09:03 PM PST by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: calcowgirl

Horowitz should check to see if Arianna Huffington is on the board.


46 posted on 02/15/2008 9:18:25 PM PST by PghBaldy (Soros funded Obama AND McCain.)
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To: calcowgirl

OMG - does Horowitz even read what he writes? Or does he just not care?


47 posted on 02/15/2008 9:21:35 PM PST by PghBaldy (Soros funded Obama AND McCain.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Glad to see all the Fooferah was for nothing.


48 posted on 02/15/2008 9:25:59 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: PghBaldy

Arianna Huffington was (at least) on the Advisory Committee
when McCain first established the Institute.
(along with a bunch of other lefties).

The Reform Institute

From archive.org cache of www.reforminstitute.org/about/advisorycommittee.shtml (as of July 2001)

The Advisory Committee 

Senator John McCain, Chair of Advisory Committee

Michael Alvarez                                          Associate Professor of voting and elections at California Institute of Technology

Former U.S. Senator David Boren              President of University of Oklahoma

Tami Buhr                                                  Director of Research at the Joan Shorenstein Center at Harvard University

Professor Anthony Corrado                        Professor and Government Department Chair, Colby College

U.S. Representative                                    Lindsey Graham 

U.S. Representative                                    Amo Houghton 

Arianna Huffington                                      Nationally syndicated columnist and author

Marion Just                                                Professor of politics and mass media at Wellesley College 

Former U.S. Senator Bob Kerrey               President of New School University

Charles Kolb                                              President of the Committee for Economic Development 

Thomas Mann                                            Brookings Institute Senior Scholar

Ron Michaelson                                          Executive Director of Illinois State Board of Elections 

Norm Ornstein                                           Senior Scholar at the American Enterprise Institute

Cameron Quinn                                          Director of the Elections Board for the State of Virginia

Raymond Wolfinger                                    Heller Professor of Political Science at the University of California at Berkeley

Curtis Gans                                                Executive Director of the Committee for the Study of the American Electorate, election reform advisor.

 


49 posted on 02/15/2008 9:30:39 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SeekAndFind

Okay. It’s not the end of the story. But why do you persist with this story when the real story is McCain-Feingold? Please stick with the relevant topic.

McCain and Soros are identical perhaps on the passing of this legislation. Please advise me of other examples where they are identical on free speech.

Please also expound on John McCain’s plan to try jihadists before the OJ jury. How has he proposed that will happen?

Cheers and good partisan and conservative wishes,
Thompson-Romney donor (I’m out five bills this cycle.)Jim


50 posted on 02/15/2008 9:32:07 PM PST by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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