Obama and Guns

ABC News ^ | Feb. 15, 2008 | by Jan Crawford Greenburg

[pallis]

“...the more orthodox position that the 2nd Amendment only protects a state’s right....”

This has never been the position of any administration until Clinton came along, and it has never been the majority opinion of citizens. The author of this horse crap has an unorthodox way of dealing with facts. Still, I don’t need Obama’s common sense gun control.

[Kirkwood]

Sorry, but that is what is happening and it will be accelerated once Obama or Clinton are elected. I’m glad I still live in a state where my 2A rights are upheld. Not everyone can say that in the US. Some communities ban gun ownership outright.

[Eastbound]

Yes, I know. Doing my very best to ward off that fateful day. To paraphrase, man’s spirit will not always strive with thugs, bullies and socialists.

[paul51]

For political expediency, he thinks everyone has the right to own firearms. he just doesn’t think anyone should have the right to carry or use it.

[Gelato]

Obama is actually straddling the issue somewhat like the Bush Administration did when it filed a brief in the case last month. He does support individual rights, but says—and this is the qualifier--the government can impose reasonable restrictions on gun ownership. And he then suggests that pretty much any existing laws are reasonable.

Reminds me of McCain, in 1999, setting that bipartisan tone:

Questioned about gun control, McCain said existing laws should be enforced, noting that the Clinton Administration has been "derelict" in doing that. But he also said that he supported the recent gun control legislation passed by the Senate and he also said that in light of the recent spate of shootings, new proposals by the Clinton Administration should be looked at by Congress and not dismissed out of hand. CNN, August 18, 1999

All in preparation to give Helen Thomas goosebumps:

Hats off to John McCain effort to close gun-show loophole
Wednesday, December 5, 2001
By HELEN THOMAS

WASHINGTON -- Gun-control advocates have a powerful new voice in the Senate who is seeking to close a loophole that allows weapons to be sold at gun shows without background checks. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who cited cases in which suspected terrorists were caught with weapons bought at U.S. gun shows, says he will try to "force Senate consideration" early next year of the measure. Former President Clinton tried but failed to curb such sales. Hats off to the senator if he succeeds.

[County Agent Hank Kimball]

"Vote for the GOP nominee."

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Thank you, no. I'm on a RINO-free diet.

Here's the good news, though:

The Constitution Party, whose nominee I will be supporting, is very strong on the 2nd Amendment.

Constitution Party Gun Platform

"The right to bear arms is inherent in the right of self defense, defense of the family, and defense against tyranny, conferred on the individual and the community by our Creator to safeguard life, liberty, and property, as well as to help preserve the independence of the nation.

The right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the Constitution; it may not properly be infringed upon or denied.

The Constitution Party upholds the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms. We oppose attempts to prohibit ownership of guns by law-abiding citizens, and stand against all laws which would require the registration of guns or ammunition.

We emphasize that when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have them. In such circumstances, the peaceful citizen's protection against the criminal would be seriously jeopardized.

We call for the repeal of all federal firearms legislation, beginning with Federal Firearms Act of 1968.

We call for the rescinding of all executive orders, the prohibition of any future executive orders, and the prohibition of treaty ratification which would in any way limit the right to keep and bear arms."

The entire CP platform can be found here:

Constitution Party Platform

Hank

[Senator Goldwater]

Here’s the good news, though:

The Constitution Party, whose nominee I will be supporting, is very strong on the 2nd Amendment.

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Here’s the bad news, Hank. A vote for a third party ensures a Democrat will appoint the next two justices, which means the 2nd amendment will be eviscerated.

Use your head. Vote for the GOP nominee. The Supreme Court hangs in the balance.

[CodeToad]

“subject to common-sense regulation”

These Comunists believe banning all but sling shots is “common-sense regulation”.

[County Agent Hank Kimball]

I’ll vote for the GOP nominee.

So long as he doesn’t believe in Global Warming fairy tales and seek to infringe on our liberty and prosperity in their name.

Does Juan McStain meet that criteria?

Hank

[Senator Goldwater]

I’ll vote for the GOP nominee.

So long as he doesn’t believe in Global Warming fairy tales and seek to infringe on our liberty and prosperity in their name.

Does Juan McStain meet that criteria?

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His opposition doesn’t.

[phrogphlyer]

As soon as there is a “but” everything said beforehand is meaningless.

"There is an individual right to bear arms, but..."
- Obama from the article.

[County Agent Hank Kimball]

"I’ll vote for the GOP nominee....So long as he doesn’t believe in Global Warming fairy tales and seek to infringe on our liberty and prosperity in their name.

Does Juan McStain meet that criteria?"

"His opposition doesn’t."

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Objection. Not responsive.

AND factually incorrect. His opposition in the Constitution Party almost certainly will. I will NOT vote for a candidate who doesn't.

Some here won't vote for a candidate who isn't pro-life. I respect that. Myself, I won't vote for a candidate who will throw our freedoms and prosperity away in the name of a collosal leftwing scam. No matter WHAT letter is next to his name on the ballot.

Hank

[County Agent Hank Kimball]

"Vote for the GOP nominee. A Supreme Court majority hangs in the balance."

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Do the names David Souter and John Paul Stevens mean anything to you? How happy are THEY making you?

They're the legacy of RINO Presidents past.

You'll need a better argument than that.

Hank

[Senator Goldwater]

Do the names David Souter and John Paul Stevens mean anything to you? How happy are THEY making you?

They’re the legacy of RINO Presidents past.

You’ll need a better argument than that.

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Clarence Thomas came from the same RINO president as Souter. And Rhenquist came from the same RINO president as Blackmun.

There goes your argument.

[County Agent Hank Kimball]

So I should vote for a candidate who will sell us out international fabian socialism to get a 50/50 chance at a less-than-hideous Supreme Court nominee?

Hank

[Senator Goldwater]

So I should vote for a candidate who will sell us out international fabian socialism to get a 50/50 chance at a less-than-hideous Supreme Court nominee?

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If that’s how you define the GOP candidate, then yes.

[County Agent Hank Kimball]

"So I should vote for a candidate who will sell us out international fabian socialism to get a 50/50 chance at a less-than-hideous Supreme Court nominee?"

If that’s how you define the GOP candidate, then yes. -----

Sorry, not gonna happen. I'm voting Constitution Party. I'd rather take my chances on getting a REAL conservative in 2012 than spend the next 4 years watching a vile scumbag like McStain collaborate with the Democrats. Let the Dems take full blame for the horror that will befall us.

Not in my name.

Hank