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Clinton's Campaign In Disarray As Staff Squabble Over "Attack Adverts"
Belfast Telegraph ^ | February 16, 2008 | By Leonard Doyle

Posted on 02/17/2008 7:49:54 AM PST by Fennie

Hillary Clinton is filling the airwaves with negative ads attacking Barack Obama as the race for the Democratic nomination enters a decisive three-week period.

But her strategy of going on the offensive against a likeable candidate is causing disarray insdie her campaign team.

Spats between her senior staff have leaked to the press and are causing embarrassment for Mrs Clinton as she struggles to find a message that resonates with voters and blocks Mr Obama's progress in the crucial states of Ohio and Texas. Mrs Clinton badly needs to come up with a successful advertising strategy if she is to win the 4 March primaries. This week she launched her first negative ad in Wisconsin - which votes on Tuesday - saying that Mr Obama was refusing to debate with her. But as fast as it went on air, the Obama campaign fought back saying there had already been 18 debates.

Mrs Clinton seems to be staking everything on a strategy of launching expensive attack ads in Texas and Ohio, where she still leads in the polls.

In the past month, the Obama campaign has spent $36m on uplifting ads while Mrs Clinton, who is short of money, spent less than $30m without appearing to break through to the public. Much of the blame is being heaped on her chief strategist, Mark Penn, who caused further embarrassment yesterday when it was revealed that the PR company he heads received hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees from a nuclear power company that Mrs Clinton accused Mr Obama of being too close to...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ads; choke; democratparty; dyingcampaign; elections; hillary; obama; sinkingship

1 posted on 02/17/2008 7:49:57 AM PST by Fennie
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To: Fennie
“a likeable candidate”???
Creepy little socialist
2 posted on 02/17/2008 7:53:14 AM PST by sierrahome (Hillary Clinton "America's Ex-Wife")
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To: Fennie
"...the PR company he heads received hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees from a nuclear power company that Mrs Clinton accused Mr Obama of being too close to..."

rofl!

3 posted on 02/17/2008 7:55:31 AM PST by robomatik (Wine plug: RenascentVineyards.com (Riesling, Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot))
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To: Fennie

Shardenfeude rules


4 posted on 02/17/2008 7:55:45 AM PST by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported)
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To: Fennie

If all else fails, there’s always Arkancide.


5 posted on 02/17/2008 7:57:45 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: sierrahome
I can't stand Obama, but you can't deny that he has that certain undefinable IT any candidate running for any office would kill for.

Plus the guy's a helluva speaker. Of course so was that little Austrian coporal with the funny mustache.........
6 posted on 02/17/2008 7:57:47 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: Fennie
Much of the blame is being heaped on her chief strategist, Mark Penn, ...

While Mr Penn is a creep, the real blame is with Mrs C. She is a mean, vicious, arrogant, unappealing, money grubbing, unattractive, screeching harpy. I will refrain from getting into the more negative aspects of her character.

7 posted on 02/17/2008 7:58:32 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: Fennie

So Mark Penn is going nuclear in more ways than one. What a riot.


8 posted on 02/17/2008 7:59:38 AM PST by rod1 (uestion)
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To: Fennie
"saying that Mr Obama was refusing to debate with her."

As the article points out, Obama needs only ask: "In which of the prior 18 debates did I refuse to debate?"

Otherwise, my questions are: "What debates?" Hillary has participated in debates? Is she referring to the wimpy Wolf Blitzer love fests? The hard hitting questions like "diamonds or pearls?" Is she considering having the FOX News panel now and having a real debate? (We know the answer to that)

9 posted on 02/17/2008 8:01:19 AM PST by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: Fennie
The politics of despair.

They only work if the opponent is a Republican. A committed liberal who speaks of "hope", and is of a protected minority status, is totally immune.

Herself, the Cold and Joyless, is fast becoming the wizened old crone that is Snow White's stepmother. Oh, Herself can evoke the Superdelegate dragon, but in the end, it may not be enough, as the charming young prince rides to do battle and smite the contending but uncoronated Queen of Darkness.

It was not supposed to be this way.

10 posted on 02/17/2008 8:01:23 AM PST by alloysteel (No provision for ANY political party was ever written in the Constitution)
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To: Fennie

The uber-nastiness is also an Harold Iches special. He and Terrible Terry McAuliffe are probalby helping Hillary orchestrate her all out attack on Obama.


11 posted on 02/17/2008 8:01:36 AM PST by rod1 (uestion)
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To: RobinOfKingston
"Mrs C. She is a mean, vicious, arrogant, unappealing, money grubbing, unattractive, screeching harpy."

And that's on her good days.

12 posted on 02/17/2008 8:03:10 AM PST by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: mtbopfuyn
The oddslayers in Vegas and Atlantic City are already making book on when Obama ends up in Fort Marcy Park suffering from a lead snowstorm.
13 posted on 02/17/2008 8:03:19 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: Fennie

The Hillary campaign just doesn’t get it. As soon as she opens her mouth and screeches her off-key voice, people turn away in large numbers. She is the most repulsive, polarizing candidate in recent history.


14 posted on 02/17/2008 8:04:22 AM PST by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Fennie

“Spats between her senior staff have leaked to the press and are causing embarrassment for Mrs Clinton...”

I thought she was a reknowned “control freak”. She can’t control Bill, and she can’t control her staff.

Great President she’d make. /s


15 posted on 02/17/2008 8:05:09 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch

Fact, somewhere and at some time the Clintons are going to get theirs, whether it is now, in November or while sitting in the W.H. All the daggers are pointing their way....


16 posted on 02/17/2008 8:14:38 AM PST by Republic Rocker
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Plus the guy's a helluva speaker

Guy is a helluva a reader. We are still waiting to see how well he does without the TelePrompTers and the speech writers.

17 posted on 02/17/2008 8:15:14 AM PST by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: Fennie

The Clinton campaigns problem now is that Hillary seems to be stiff. If she doesn’t learn to loosen up she is toast.


18 posted on 02/17/2008 8:22:52 AM PST by Maelstorm (Heroism is something that when it is manifest it is undeniable. The same can be said for cowardice.)
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To: Fennie
I think we can all see what a service it is to the Republican party that the political operatives pick our candidate long before the first primary or caucus is ever held. When the Indian's refuse to follow the lead of the chiefs things quickly become a messy business.

Sarcasm, ya think!

19 posted on 02/17/2008 8:24:13 AM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Fennie
Embarrassment??? If the Democrats were capable of embarrassment they'd wear bags over their heads for the rest of their lives.
20 posted on 02/17/2008 8:26:37 AM PST by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Fennie
But her strategy of going on the offensive against a likeable candidate is causing disarray insdie her campaign team.

Don't know how to handle those "uppity" negroes who left the plantation and won't listen to the white master/mistress.

21 posted on 02/17/2008 8:30:04 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: Fennie
....from a nuclear power company that Mrs Clinton accused Mr Obama of being too close to.

LOL - So, that's where Obama gets his "electrifying" personality.

/sarcasm off

22 posted on 02/17/2008 8:38:55 AM PST by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: Fennie
It's getting close to the time Hill unleashes that little commie sob Harold Ickes to do his dirty work.

Harold Ickes
*) Co-founder and unofficial director of the Democrat Shadow Party
*) Sought chairmanship of the Democratic Party in February 2005
*) Ran Hillary Clinton's successful Senate campaign in 1999-2000
*) Former Deputy Chief of Staff for the Clinton White House
*) In his law practice, he represented Mob-run labor unions with ties to the Lucchese, Colombo, Genovese, Gambino and other major crime families.

In 1961 Ickes enrolled at Stanford University, where he fell under the influence of Professor Allard Kenneth Lowenstein, known as the "Pied Piper" for his ability to seduce idealistic young students into the New Left.

~~snip~~

Ickes went that same year (1965) to the Dominican Republic, where — according to the Boston Globe — he sought to “help deposed leftist president Juan Bosch return to office.” After spending two years in Communist Cuba, the socialist Bosch had returned to the Dominican Republic and won the support of a group of leftwing colonels, who sought to place Bosch in power through an armed coup. Only the arrival of 22,000 U.S. Marines stopped the Bosch coup. According to the Boston Globe, Ickes was present on the island when the Marines landed, on April 29, 1965.

In 1977 Ickes joined the Mineola, New York law firm Meyer, Suozzi, English & Klein, taking charge of its labor practice. Among the crooked unions Ickes represented for the firm were Local 100 of HERE -- the Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees International Union -- which was jointly controlled by the Colombo and Gambino crime families; the New York City District Council of Carpenters, then controlled by the Genovese crime family; and Teamsters Local 851, which ran the air freight rackets at JFK airport for the Lucchese crime family.

~~snip~~

Following Mrs. Clinton's successful election, Ickes played a central role in creating the Democrat Shadow Party. After passage of the McCain-Feingold Act of March 27, 2002, Ickes helped put Shadow Party architect George Soros together with activists Andrew Stern, Ellen R. Malcolm, Steven Rosenthal, Gina Glantz, Cecile Richards, and other leftwing Democrats who were seeking ways to circumvent McCain-Feingold's soft-money ban. Working closely with Soros, Ickes personally helped launch six of the seven organizations that formed the Shadow Party’s core during the 2004 election, including America Coming Together, America Votes, the Center for American Progress, Joint Victory Campaign 2004, the Media Fund, and the Thunder Road Group.

Wherever the evil Ickes goes the commie maggot leaves a slime trail.
And his old man was commie scum too.

23 posted on 02/17/2008 8:41:13 AM PST by Condor51 (Vote for McInsane or Ugga-Bugga? Decisions, decisions, decisions.)
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To: MNJohnnie

He does great without TelePrompters and speech writers.

The guy graduated from Harvard Law. He was president of the Harvard law review. He clearly knows how to think on his feet.

He KO’d Hillary in the debates.

I think the line that won him primaries against her was when she planted the question on ‘how can you give us change when you are using former Clinton advisers’.

Hillary broke all debate protocols and started laughing - extremely loudly. She says ‘I’d like to hear that’.

Obama kept his cool, looked up slowly, paused, and said “I look forward to you advising me as well, Hillary”.

That was the winning line of the debate.

Especially as Hillary’s conduct was clearly unbecoming of a president or even any ordinary debater.


24 posted on 02/17/2008 8:42:49 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Emperor Palpatine

I live in Wisconsin and I sense Obamamania is wearing off a bit. His ads are not that great and I think the primary on Tuesday will be closer than the MSM predicts. A lot of people I know are crossing over to vote for the Hildabeast just to try to keep the Dem race going to the convention. If it goes to the convention and the Clinton’s steal the nomination, Obama’s people will stay home. If Obama gets the nomination, his lack of experience will doom his candidacy. Already in today’s Wash Post, they are starting the scruntiny of him they should have done 6 months ago. His increasing ‘John Edward’s’ economic plan is scaring people and his foreign policy is a joke.


25 posted on 02/17/2008 8:43:37 AM PST by milwguy (........)
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To: spokeshave
Shardenfeude rules

I think that means "a fight using broken glass".

;->

26 posted on 02/17/2008 8:53:16 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Enterprise

“Mrs C.”

Isn’t that the word recently used by Jane Fonda?


27 posted on 02/17/2008 9:31:56 AM PST by shaft29
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To: shaft29
“Mrs C.”

Isn’t that the word recently used by Jane Fonda?

Strange, I wonder how anyone could make THAT connection? (Beavis smirk)

28 posted on 02/17/2008 10:20:32 AM PST by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: Fennie

The wicked witch is mad and will stop at nothing to get in power, to which she feels entitled since birth.


29 posted on 02/17/2008 10:26:17 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Fennie
Note to the Clinton ampaign:

Please! please! please! launch some attack ads. They will make you look smaller and even more shrewish than you already do and will be wonderful fun for the general election.

30 posted on 02/17/2008 10:33:33 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: milwguy
If she steels the election she will get away with it. I'm voting Obama in the primaries. If I have to live with a commie in the WH better him than her. No More Clintons.
31 posted on 02/17/2008 10:42:27 AM PST by mimaw
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To: Fennie
...disarray inside her campaign team.

If she can't run her campaign - and she's never run a state, or a business - and she can't run her marriage, why WHY, WHY, should anyone trust her to run this country?

32 posted on 02/17/2008 10:45:43 AM PST by GOPJ (Obama didn't get one counted vote in Harlem's 94th. Not one. Will Texas and Ohio cheat next?)
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To: sierrahome

“a likeable candidate”???
Creepy little socialist

... maybe you misread.

“likeable candidate” = tall, gangly socialist
“unlikeable candidate” = shorter, pantsuited shrieking socialist


33 posted on 02/17/2008 10:48:31 AM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

He does great without TelePrompters and speech writers.”

Not so. without TelePrompters, his eloquence degrades into standard-issue left-liberal partisan ranting.
As least according to this Dean Barnett ...
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/728ofzey.asp?pg=2


34 posted on 02/17/2008 11:37:24 AM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: mimaw

“I’m voting Obama in the primaries. “

Are you pro-abortion anti-troops anti-GWOT and for higher taxes judicial activism and drivers licenses for illegals?

That’s the message your vote for obama sends.

Conservatives need to vote for *CONSERVATIVES*.

Your vote for the most liberal Senator in the US Senate only helps the left and hurts the right.


35 posted on 02/17/2008 11:39:56 AM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: WOSG
Your vote for the most liberal Senator in the US Senate only helps the left and hurts the right.

Well, it does help to drive a stake in the heart of she who must not ever, ever be allowed to rule.

36 posted on 02/17/2008 11:59:43 AM PST by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: Fennie

If the great fornicator keeps up his schedule we might get a repeat of the Carnahan tactic used in Missouri.

I would not put that past the Hildebeast.


37 posted on 02/17/2008 5:35:35 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Fennie
her chief strategist, Mark Penn, who caused further embarrassment yesterday when it was revealed that the PR company he heads received hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees from a nuclear power company that Mrs Clinton accused Mr Obama of being too close to..

Hehehe. Simple f*ers can't seem to get it right. Clinton's reliance on cynical corrupt flying monkeys is coming home to roost.

38 posted on 02/17/2008 9:31:32 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Pikachu_Dad
He does great without TelePrompters and speech writers.

His speech today was written. He pulled the script from his coat pocket while waiting for the crowd to finish making noise.

39 posted on 02/17/2008 9:40:08 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: prov1813man

uh, he will actually be WORSE.


40 posted on 02/17/2008 10:47:52 PM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: WOSG

Also - OBAMA is more ELECTABLE:

Rasmussen General Election Tracker (2/17)

* John McCain 49%
* Hillary Clinton 42%

* Barack Obama 46%
* John McCain 44%


41 posted on 02/17/2008 11:02:27 PM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: mimaw

“If she steels the election she will get away with it. “

I am thinking if she steals the nomination, she loses in November.

win/win for us.

Rasmussen General Election Tracker (2/17)

* John McCain 49%
* Hillary Clinton 42%

* Barack Obama 46%
* John McCain 44%


42 posted on 02/17/2008 11:03:45 PM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

I know you are saying that tongue and cheek but,seriously,if something like that ever happened to Obama it would set off riots across this country similiar or worse the post-King assasination outbursts of 1968.
I really think blacks could care less if it was Jackson or Sharpton.Yet I have never seen black people so energized and uplifted psychologically by Barak Obama.We can argue all day about the thin layer of substance behind his politics,but God help America if “something”happened to him.


43 posted on 02/17/2008 11:18:01 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: mimaw

I agree and did what you are going to do in Califonia two weeks ago and voted Obama.Stopping the Bull Clanton gang is the number one priority.


44 posted on 02/17/2008 11:20:16 PM PST by Riverman94610
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