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Old JFK documents may stir controversy (found in an old safe in a Dallas courthouse)
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 2/17/08 | Reuters

Posted on 02/17/2008 1:28:35 PM PST by NormsRevenge

DALLAS (Reuters) - A batch of old documents linked to the slaying of President John F. Kennedy has reportedly been unearthed, including a highly suspect transcript of a conversation between assassin Lee Harvey Oswald and Oswald's killer Jack Ruby, the Dallas Morning News said on Sunday.

The newspaper said the Dallas County district attorney's office, which uncovered the documents, would display its discovery at a news conference on Monday morning.

The Morning News said the items found in an old safe in a Dallas courthouse included personal letters from former District Attorney Henry Wade, the prosecutor in the Ruby trial. Ruby shot Oswald two days after the president's death.

Also found were official records from Ruby's trial, a gun holster and clothing that probably belonged to Ruby and Oswald, District Attorney Craig Watkins told the newspaper.

But one potentially controversial item is a transcript of an exchange between Oswald and Ruby in which they discuss killing Kennedy to halt the mafia-busting agenda of his brother, Attorney General Robert Kennedy.

The Morning News said one theory about the transcript was that it was part of a movie script Wade was working on with producers, for a film that was never made.

The transcript resembles one published by the Warren Commission, which investigated Kennedy's assassination and concluded Oswald acted alone. The FBI had determined the conversation between Oswald and Ruby -- this time about killing Texas Gov. John Connally -- was definitely fake, the newspaper said.

Connally was riding in the car with Kennedy and was wounded in the attack.

The documents may be a Presidents' Day gift to conspiracy theorists who have long questioned the official U.S. government version that Oswald acted alone when he shot Kennedy on November 22, 1963, as the president's motorcade swept past the Texas School Book Depository in downtown Dallas.

Nightclub owner Ruby subsequently shot Oswald dead at point-blank range as police were escorting their prime suspect. Ruby died a few years later from cancer.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: controversy; dallas; documents; jackruby; jfk; jfkassassination; leeharveyoswald
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1 posted on 02/17/2008 1:28:36 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

And brother Teddy continues to drink like a fish...45 years later...


2 posted on 02/17/2008 1:32:34 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: NormsRevenge
But one potentially controversial item is a transcript of an exchange between Oswald and Ruby in which they discuss killing Kennedy to halt the mafia-busting agenda of his brother, Attorney General Robert Kennedy.

Absolute nonsense.
3 posted on 02/17/2008 1:32:54 PM PST by Signalman
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

>>And brother Teddy continues to drink like a fish...45 years later...<<

That is one of the few points where I don’t blame Ted - if being President and attorney general don’t keep your brothers safe how could Ted ever feel safe?


4 posted on 02/17/2008 1:35:12 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Everyone knows Karl Rove had JFK rubbed out. He was on the grassy knoll that day hiding behind the fence. He knew that once Kennedy was out of the way it would set in motion the election of George Bush 37 years later.


5 posted on 02/17/2008 1:35:51 PM PST by skimask (Support Terrorism......Vote Democratic)
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To: Bobkk47

But one potentially controversial item is a transcript of an exchange between Oswald and Ruby in which they discuss killing Kennedy to halt the mafia-busting agenda of his brother, Attorney General Robert Kennedy.

Absolute nonsense.


My thoughts exactly. While the mob played a role in all of this, Oswald wasn’t hip to it.


6 posted on 02/17/2008 1:36:45 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: NormsRevenge

Exclusive: Dallas County DA’s office finds cache of JFK memorabilia
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1971752/posts

Transcript in JFK-related discovery will fuel conspiracy chatter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1971909/posts


7 posted on 02/17/2008 1:37:50 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Bobkk47

“Absolute nonsense.”

A document is found in a safe with other presumed authentic items. Did you put it there, or do you know who did? How can anyone here possible declare it nonsense based on this?


8 posted on 02/17/2008 1:38:32 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: NormsRevenge
Nightclub owner Ruby subsequently shot Oswald dead at point-blank range as police were escorting their prime suspect.

At least the reporter didn’t say “allegedly shot,” for me and millions of Americans saw that one happen live on TV.

9 posted on 02/17/2008 1:38:35 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Senator Goldwater

I Have a theory...KENNEDY HAS BE DEAD FOR OVER 40 YEARS!!! MOVE ON!!


10 posted on 02/17/2008 1:38:43 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: gondramB

Fat Ted is perfectly safe because he ain’t worth the price of a bullet.


11 posted on 02/17/2008 1:39:13 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Bobkk47

This smells of hoax.


12 posted on 02/17/2008 1:39:38 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

he was here in Youngstown Ohio yesterday-there was a run on the liquor stores. Teddy Kennedy at St. Patty’s Day is a dangerous as Bill Clinton with a fist full of $100s at a brothel.


13 posted on 02/17/2008 1:40:04 PM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: PAR35

Thanks for linking those threads in!

What’s Jack Ruby’s gun worth today?


14 posted on 02/17/2008 1:40:18 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

Johnson had it done.


15 posted on 02/17/2008 1:40:24 PM PST by bannie (clintons CHEAT! AAAALLWAYS!)
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To: PAR35

I think they meant to kill John Freakin Kerry. But you know the Dems. If you seen one JFK you seen them all.


16 posted on 02/17/2008 1:40:43 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Shouldn't the libs love a Hunter Thompson ticket in 08?)
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To: NormsRevenge
Old saying:
When the facts don’t match the legend, print the legend.
17 posted on 02/17/2008 1:41:20 PM PST by edcoil (Go Great in 08 ... Slide into 09)
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To: NormsRevenge

18 posted on 02/17/2008 1:41:24 PM PST by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: NormsRevenge

If I hadn’t already seen them and remembered the headlines, I probably couldn’t have found them.


19 posted on 02/17/2008 1:41:38 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Huskrrrr

But Elvis is still alive....isn’t he?


20 posted on 02/17/2008 1:41:40 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: NormsRevenge

21 posted on 02/17/2008 1:41:44 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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To: NormsRevenge

22 posted on 02/17/2008 1:42:42 PM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: NormsRevenge
Weren’t we told that Ruby shot Oswald out of sympathy for JFK’s wife, Jackie? I always thought that one was a load of cr&p.
23 posted on 02/17/2008 1:42:43 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Emmett McCarthy

>>Fat Ted is perfectly safe because he ain’t worth the price of a bullet.<<

I’m not sure he’s that harmless... but he is certainly closer than in the past - back in 1975 the press thought he could win the Democratic nomination just by entering the race at the last minute and having delegates change sides.

that would have been an interesting alternate reality - President Kennedy instead of President Carter.


24 posted on 02/17/2008 1:43:40 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: PAR35

I did a basic search and didn’t see them at the top, Oh well. I’m trying to watch Daytona , drink beer and pondering my next meal.. and I got pup watch to boot.


25 posted on 02/17/2008 1:45:14 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: bannie
"Johnson had it done."

My dad died believing that.
My grandad died believing we didn't land on the moon, so...

26 posted on 02/17/2008 1:45:46 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Ditter

That was Ruby’s testimony.


27 posted on 02/17/2008 1:46:16 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: NormsRevenge
For anyone who hasn't seen it, I recommend the movie "Winter Kills," by the director of "The Manchurian Candidate." It's based on the Kennedy assassination, and it is GOOD. It perfectly captures all the paranoia of that strange presidency and even stranger assassination.


28 posted on 02/17/2008 1:49:07 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: blam

I don’t want to die yet; but I believe it. It makes the most sense.


29 posted on 02/17/2008 1:49:51 PM PST by bannie (clintons CHEAT! AAAALLWAYS!)
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To: gondramB

He’s certainly not harmless in terms of damage to our way of life, but he is harmless to - and scared spitless of - those who knocked off his brothers and I think he knows exactly who was behind all of it.


30 posted on 02/17/2008 1:50:44 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: NormsRevenge
Yeah, kept in the courthouse where the Warren Commission could not get it.
31 posted on 02/17/2008 1:50:53 PM PST by Bogie
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To: WoofDog123
>How can anyone here possible declare it nonsense based on this?

Well, Howard Hughes and
Adolph Hitler both had books
come out that were fakes . . .

These days documents
of all kinds must be taken
with a grain of salt.

32 posted on 02/17/2008 1:51:16 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: NormsRevenge

33 posted on 02/17/2008 1:51:31 PM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Bobkk47
I do believe the Mafia was involved in the JFK assassination, but I agree there is absolutely no evidence that Oswald and Ruby ever discussed the assassination. (Of course, silly me, I don't think Oswald had anything to do with the assassination.)

:-)

There is no convincing evidence that Oswald and Ruby communicated or worked together in any way. That is one of the few valid points the Warren Commission managed to make.


34 posted on 02/17/2008 1:51:36 PM PST by cgbg (For this election I am a Republican Refusnik. Pass the vodka and go f^&* yourself.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Paul is Dead Hoax

Another 60's hoax...

35 posted on 02/17/2008 2:01:23 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: NormsRevenge

At last the proof has been found. JFK, Elvis and MLK are living on a small Island in the Caribenean along with Natalie Holloway!


36 posted on 02/17/2008 2:04:41 PM PST by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: Inyo-Mono
“Nightclub owner Ruby subsequently shot Oswald dead at point-blank range as police were escorting their prime suspect.

At least the reporter didn’t say “allegedly shot,” for me and millions of Americans saw that one happen live on TV.”

But they still sanitize Ruby by calling him a “nightclub” owner!
He didn’t run Ricky Ricardo’s “Tropicana” . His was more like the “Bada Bing” from the “Soprano’s”

37 posted on 02/17/2008 2:08:32 PM PST by hecht
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To: dfwgator

They were a killer band, back in the day.


38 posted on 02/17/2008 2:10:51 PM PST by jdm (You must have cookies enabled to log-in.)
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To: hecht
He didn’t run Ricky Ricardo’s “Tropicana” . His was more like the “Bada Bing” from the “Soprano’s”

You got that right.

39 posted on 02/17/2008 2:11:19 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: jdm
They were a killer band, back in the day.

Yep, I remember their big hit, "I'm a Patsy!"

40 posted on 02/17/2008 2:14:59 PM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: Young Werther

Amelia Eargart and Glenn Miller are on the very same island too. I have been told so by an unmentioned reliable source.


41 posted on 02/17/2008 2:42:26 PM PST by skimask (Support Terrorism......Vote Democratic)
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To: NormsRevenge

I believe Ruby’s brother finally got possession of the weapon after years of petitioning the courts, as it was no longer needed as evidence.


42 posted on 02/17/2008 2:55:11 PM PST by Froggie
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To: NormsRevenge

Any decent Leftie worth his salt knows this has to be fake: JFK was killed by a cabal of right-wing industrialists and the CIA because he was going to pull us out of Vietnam.


43 posted on 02/17/2008 3:03:02 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: Snickering Hound
Another 60's hoax...

Hoax my rear end! All you have to do is compare "I Saw Her Standing There" to "Silly Love Songs", and you'll know that the real Paul died just after "Revolver" was released.

44 posted on 02/17/2008 3:08:21 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: skimask

Yeah but they wouldn’t let Jim Morrison visit lol.


45 posted on 02/17/2008 3:19:53 PM PST by JimC214
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To: NormsRevenge

Probably written on that same typewriter used for Dan Rather’s Texas National Guard memo.


46 posted on 02/17/2008 3:28:35 PM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Inyo-Mono
"for me and millions of Americans saw that one happen live on TV."

CORRECTION: "for me and millions of Americans allegedly saw that one happen live on TV."

47 posted on 02/17/2008 3:30:48 PM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Snickering Hound

I...buried......Paauull


48 posted on 02/17/2008 3:31:40 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: dfwgator

I wonder if they found set lists of Lee’s band.


49 posted on 02/17/2008 3:32:43 PM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Revolting cat!

Never thought of it that way! Now I’m confused about what I saw.


50 posted on 02/17/2008 3:35:36 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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