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Stout call for St Pat's holiday in US (Guinness co. pushes for official holiday status )
The BBC ^ | February 15, 2008 | Johnny Caldwell

Posted on 02/18/2008 1:06:23 AM PST by Stoat

Stout call for St Pat's holiday in US

 

By Johnny Caldwell
BBC News

 
Guinness poster
Guinness is very popular on St Patrick's Day
Guinness has launched a campaign to have St Patrick's Day officially recognised as a holiday in the US.

The campaign is centred around a petition, which it hopes one million people will sign or endorse by midnight on Sunday 16 March.

It will then be presented to Congress the following day, which of course any Irish man, woman, child or indeed self-respecting plastic paddy will of course know is St Patrick's Day.

The petition can be signed in bars and off-licences - excuse my American 'liquor stores' - across the US as well as online.

However, despite millions of Americans claiming to have at least a little bit of Irish in them, the chances of St Patrick's Day being a national holiday in the US are thought to be low.

It would, cultural analysts say, open the flood gates for people of every nationality - actual and adopted - to call for their particular holidays 'back home' to be recognised with a holiday.

Stout suppers

Meanwhile, it has emerged that rumours of a demise in the popularity of the black stuff as former stout suppers opt for wine and lighter beers appear to have been greatly exaggerated.

Figures from the first six months of 2007 show that Guinness sales increased by 3% in pubs in Ireland. It also increased its share in the off-licence sector.

Guinness
The petition can be endorsed online

But rumours still prevail about whether Guinness may actually move from its world-famous home, St James Gate in Dublin, and relocate elsewhere in the city or indeed further afield.

A company spokesman has been quoted as saying "we're still a few months away from a final decision".

Subsequently, it appears the issue, like a pint of Guinness, may take a while to settle...

For further information about Guinness' campaign to have St Patrick's Day officially recognised as a hoilday in the US, go to www.Proposition317.com



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: beer; guinness; holiday; ireland; saintpaddy; saintpaddysday; saintpatrick; saintpatricksday
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BBC - Saint Patrick's Day

BBC - Religion & Ethics - Saint Patrick Introduction

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St Patrick Through me many peoples were born again in God

1 posted on 02/18/2008 1:06:27 AM PST by Stoat
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To: GOP_Raider; Tax-chick
Guinness for strength
2 posted on 02/18/2008 1:07:16 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

This proposal faces the “minor” problem of the state supporting/recognizing a religious holiday. This is likely distinct from Christmas and New Years, which also have secular roots.

Further, technically, Padraig was not officially canonized — not by a pope in the usually understood meaning. So these beer guys are seeking an official holiday (holy day) for an unofficial saint.

Brilliant!


3 posted on 02/18/2008 1:18:22 AM PST by bajabaja
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To: bajabaja
Brilliant!

And, they've hit upon a marvelous marketing ploy....give beer aficionados a perpetual cause to rally around   :-)

(they can try again every year, and in so doing remind everyone which beer they need to buy  :-)

 

 guinness 1

4 posted on 02/18/2008 1:24:18 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: bajabaja

Just call it Irish-American Day.


5 posted on 02/18/2008 1:32:31 AM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Stoat

That’s the real rub. In Mexico, Cinco de Mayo is not the biggest national holiday. Their equivalent to Fourth of July is in September, the 14th I believe. CdM celebrates a victory over the French where the Mexicans used cow carcasses as cover in gun battles. The Mexicans think CdM is big in the US because the beer companies don’t have a holiday around that time, so they boosted CdM.

Lots of conspiracy theories in Mexico.

If you’re down this way, I’ll buy you some Modelo Negro (Mohdelo Nehygrow) (that’s Black Model, a better beer than the Tecate).

Just a little spanish lingo thrown in there. Hope you enjoy.


6 posted on 02/18/2008 1:38:19 AM PST by bajabaja
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To: bajabaja
That's all very interesting, thank you!  And thank you also for your very kind offer  :-)

Re Cinco de Mayo, that explanation seems quite valid particularly considering that the victory was quickly reversed. 

When else can the Mexican breweries focus all of their marketing attentions on the USA without any competition from American or other companies?  Sometimes, conspiracy theories have a kernel of truth behind them, particularly when large sums of money are involved :-)

7 posted on 02/18/2008 1:59:40 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
From my homepage:"I'm not Irish, but the people who carry me home are!"

Cheers!

8 posted on 02/18/2008 2:06:05 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Stoat

I don’t need St. Patrick’s Day to be a holiday.

I need the holiday on the day after St. Patrick’s Day.


9 posted on 02/18/2008 2:07:02 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Caipirabob
From my homepage:"I'm not Irish, but the people who carry me home are!"

Cheers!

LMAO!

And cheers to you as well   :-)

 

 beerdrinker

10 posted on 02/18/2008 2:10:42 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
I don’t need St. Patrick’s Day to be a holiday.

I need the holiday on the day after St. Patrick’s Day.

Agreed.  Perhaps the plan is to get people started with their drinking earlier in the day?

I smell a conspiracy!  :-)

 

 Heaven

11 posted on 02/18/2008 2:15:34 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: bajabaja
In Mexico, Cinco de Mayo is not the biggest national holiday.

Someone tell Tyson Meat then. They close their slaughter houses in Iowa on 5 May and work 4 July.

But St. Patty's Day? I would rather take off 18 March to recuperate from celebrating my Irish heritage.

In spite of the fact that I am soooo German I have this irresitaable urge to suddenly get up and march through France.

12 posted on 02/18/2008 2:31:48 AM PST by woofer (Earth First! We'll mine the other eight later.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Those were my exact comments when signing the petition!


13 posted on 02/18/2008 2:35:40 AM PST by RU88
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To: Stoat

Guinness is the world’s best beer. But its true beauty can only be appreciated in unpasteurized draft. It’s hard to get these days so I don’t drink it and haven’t for years


14 posted on 02/18/2008 2:41:20 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<<<-->>>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: dennisw
Guinness is the world’s best beer. But its true beauty can only be appreciated in unpasteurized draft.

As well as when it's served by a vivacious Irish lass  :-)

It’s hard to get these days so I don’t drink it and haven’t for years

Sounds like it's past time for a holiday in Ireland.  I would LOVE to visit again....some of the kindest, friendliest and most gracious people I've met in my life.

15 posted on 02/18/2008 2:51:38 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

Of course, St Patrick wasnt remotely Irish...


16 posted on 02/18/2008 3:18:28 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: bajabaja

Is ‘Tres Eqquis’ still around? I never saw it marketed here in the USA and was told that the packaging was not up to US standards for our markets (not pasteurized..??). Not too sure about that, but I remember that it was a really tasty brew. Lime really brought out it’s character.


17 posted on 02/18/2008 3:33:03 AM PST by ByteMercenary (9-11: supported everywhere by followers of the the cult of islam.)
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To: Stoat

This year, since March 17 falls on Monday during Holy Week, the Feast Day is being moved to Saturday, March 15. (St. Joseph’s Day, March 19, and the Feast of the Annunciation, March 25 [during Easter week] are also being moved.)


18 posted on 02/18/2008 3:37:33 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

I somewhat agree.

That is why St Pat’s day is the day AFTER St Urho’s Day ( http://www.sainturho.com/ ) March 16!


19 posted on 02/18/2008 3:50:57 AM PST by opbuzz (Right way, wrong way, Marine way)
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To: Stoat

Hey, if they succeed then we can add St. Urho’s Day and have two holidays back-to-back.


20 posted on 02/18/2008 5:29:43 AM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; SomeguyfromIreland; Youngblood; Fergal; Cian; col kurz; ...

Ireland ping! Have a Guinness, everyone!


21 posted on 02/18/2008 6:38:18 AM PST by Tax-chick (If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't shoot! It might be a lemur!)
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To: Stoat
If the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church in the USA does not consider Saint Patrick's Day a holy day of obligation, why would the federal government consider it an official holiday?

It's purely a marketing gimmick - as evidenced by the fact that their petition is not be coordinated on a state by state basis for presentation to state legislatures.

22 posted on 02/18/2008 7:09:28 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: bajabaja
Further, technically, Padraig was not officially canonized — not by a pope in the usually understood meaning. So these beer guys are seeking an official holiday (holy day) for an unofficial saint.

Incorrect.

Since Patrick is commemorated as a saint in the liturgy of the Catholic Church he is an "official" saint.

The process of formal juridical canonization was not instituted until the tenth century.

In other words, none of the Apostles and Fathers of the Church were ever juridically canonized, but no one can say that Peter and Paul are not official saints of the Church.

All canonization means is that the Church acknowledges that the sanctity of an individual is so clearly in evidence that it will cause no scandal to publicly acknowledge him in the Mass and other liturgies. Thousands of saints were recognized in the Church's liturgical calendar for centuries before there was a juridical process for incorporating new saints into the liturgy.

23 posted on 02/18/2008 7:16:30 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Stoat

How about we restore Lincoln and Washington’s birthdays and then decide if we want another holiday.


24 posted on 02/18/2008 7:40:46 AM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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(A drinking holiday?? Brilliant!)

Beer Ping!

A low to medium ping list aimed at all of us who, well, love our beer…

FReepmail rzeznikj at stout or GOP_Raider to be added or struck from the list…

25 posted on 02/18/2008 11:04:30 AM PST by GOP_Raider (With parting breath we'll sing that song "A Utah Man Am I" RIP GBH)
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To: GOP_Raider; Tax-chick
Thank you both very much for pinging your lists  :-)

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26 posted on 02/18/2008 2:05:20 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: GOP_Raider; All
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27 posted on 02/18/2008 3:07:50 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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